The NEW New Warriors series

[FrogMan]

Okay first of all, sorry to anyone who thought this was some kind of actual announcement of a confirmed New Warriors series.

Secondly, this is me predicting that we are in fact getting a new New Warriors series sometime after Civil War ends. Why am I so sure of this?

Joe Q can't keep his mouth shut. He's so balatantly obvious these days it's not even funny anymore.

Remember awhile back, in one of the Joe Friday's, somebody asked him what the chances are of us seeing a new series for the Warriors after CW, he replied that there was a 70% chance of that happening? Now he's backpedaling (again. He does this too often these days. He thinks we're stupid or something). In a more recent Joe Friday's (maybe it was even this weeks, can't remember exactly where I read it) he stated that, pretty well, there was no chance of seeing a new New Warriors project anytime soon.

WTF??? Right, Joe, tell us some more lies. You've tried throwing us off the trail this EXACT same way too often in the past, and I for one, ain't falling for it anymore.

In this same interview, he tells us that there are 2 new team books spinning out of Civil War that HAVE NOT been announced yet.

New Warriors, anyone?

I mean, Marvel would be stupid NOT to restart the title now. The New Warriors are EVERYWHERE in Civil War, and they now have the perfect angle for a new series. The Warriors trying to win back their reputation.

and hmmmm, Dan Slott's new book. Also not announced yet.

I'm thinking "Slott on New Warriors in 2007".

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Joe.

[Tater]

Yea, they can win back their reputation. Except they are all dead except for Mr. Speedball. Unless it's just speedball forming a new team. But then he would have to be registered.

[FrogMan]

Um, only Night Thrasher, Namorita and Microbe are dead. That leaves almost a dozen or so New Warriors left alive.

[curefreak]

its not new warriors without speedball and it doesnt look like hes gonna be free to be doing any super heroing anytime soon.,

[protege]

Say- wasn't Namorita a clone? Maybe Stark could just create anotrher one- wouldn't THAt tick Namor off?

[Joe Acro]

If they do a new series they should start with Night Thrasher. Reveal him as having been an underground hero for a while who had a counterpart on the New Warriors so that he could do his job more effectively. Then, have him gather people like before, this time to counter the chaos that has emerged due to Civil War. Like before, he gathers three established, not-often-used characters. They face some threat together and two old New Warriors (probably Justice and Rage) assist and rejoin.

[XPac]

If they ever were to bring the Warrriors back, I'd think Fabian would be the best person to write it. He's not doing TBolts anymore.

But honestly I'm not sure they'd bring the New Warriors back. Nova is doing his own thing in space, Namorita and Nightthrasher are dead, and Firestar is returned.

The Runaway and Young Avengers kind of fill in the teenage niche, while the Loners books deals with the young adult heroes. I think perhaps the reason the chances of New Warriors going from 70% downward is maybe because the Loners book will sort of fill that niche.

But that said, let me just say I was a fan of Fabians New Warriors run and would LOVE for them to return. I'm just skeptical it would happen as an ongoing. But I'm dam sure someone either way there will be several New Warrior stories down the pike since their reaction to the ending of Civil War is so relavent.

[FrogMan]

All ye naysayers shall be wrong!!!!

You'll see. You'll see. :)

[Kevinroc]

All ye naysayers shall be wrong!!!!

You'll see. You'll see. :)

I don't think I'm a naysayer on this subject. I actually thing Marvel will attempt to launch another New Warriors series soon with characters like Justice and Rage. There's certainly more interest in the NW then there has been in a very long time.

[Young Avenger]

If they do a new series they should start with Night Thrasher. Reveal him as having been an underground hero for a while who had a counterpart on the New Warriors so that he could do his job more effectively. Then, have him gather people like before, this time to counter the chaos that has emerged due to Civil War. Like before, he gathers three established, not-often-used characters. They face some threat together and two old New Warriors (probably Justice and Rage) assist and rejoin.

So the New New Warriors will be the Outsiders?

[Cayman]

I'd guess I'd do the following:

Justice
Gravity
Thor Girl
Rage
Skids
Husk
Freedom Ring (a new one)
Southpaw
Aegis
Wildstreak

[Joe Acro]

So the New New Warriors will be the Outsiders?
I don't read the title to know the similarities.

[Bobster777]

Isn't the team called Loners? That's what I remember from reading the last issue of Wizard.

[PaxHouse]

Isn't the team called Loners? That's what I remember from reading the last issue of Wizard.

No.....he's basically talking about any of the former Warriors that might either return or are 'registered heroes' that'll {possibly} be Warriors.....And not those that're introduced from the RUNAWAYS series (As Excelsior, of course) that originally formed as a Support Group for Ex-Teen heroes...

[Bobster777]

No.....he's basically talking about any of the former Warriors that might either return or are 'registered heroes' that'll {possibly} be Warriors.....And not those that're introduced from the RUNAWAYS series (As Excelsior, of course) that originally formed as a Support Group for Ex-Teen heroes...
Oh, I see. Thanks for the clarification.

[bingbangboom]

I dont think Marvel needs another new team book announced right now. They already have the Might Avengers, New Thunderbolts, Omega Flight, Heroes for Hire and prob a couple others pinning out of Civil War.

I think holding off and having a new Warriors book spinning out of the events down the line would be better. Possibly a book of teenage VILLIANS considering that the "new warriors" is a damaged name in the world of Marvel because of the BOOM that started Civil War.

Marvel doesn't have a teen villian book.

[RichStanz]

I dont think Marvel needs another new team book announced right now. They already have the Might Avengers, New Thunderbolts, Omega Flight, Heroes for Hire and prob a couple others pinning out of Civil War.

I think holding off and having a new Warriors book spinning out of the events down the line would be better. Possibly a book of teenage VILLIANS considering that the "new warriors" is a damaged name in the world of Marvel because of the BOOM that started Civil War.

Marvel doesn't have a teen villian book.

Teen villian book? Has that ever been done?!:eek:

That's f'n brilliant!

[curefreak]

Teen villian book? Has that ever been done?!:eek:

That's f'n brilliant!
i would def be interested in that.

[Locue]

Idiots, it's obviously The Slingers. Peter Parker will put them all together again and they'll raze Tony Stark to the ground. ;)

[Joe Acro]

The Slingers?! But how would there be a Hornet? How would Spidey no where to find them? How does Ricochet handle two books at once?

[Rich L]

Teen villian book? Has that ever been done?!:eek:

That's f'n brilliant!

Images' DV8 is probably the closest you'll get. And it was pretty damn sweet,too. It lost its way maybe ten issues in but for my money it was a better read than it's Gen13 conuterpart.

The early issues are by Warren Ellis and Humberto Ramos. Definitely worth checking out.

Ah, Sideways Bob and his doll's head...how I miss them.

[Locue]

The Slingers?! But how would there be a Hornet?
Replace him with a ninja. Because ninjas are teh bestest thing evar and Hornet looked like a ninja, if you look real close.

How would Spidey no where to find them?
Well, one's in the prison and I'd reckon the others could just magically appear before him. In fact, that's how I think every "where do I find this guy"-problem should be handled. Just have them appear out of thin air. Like ninjas.

How does Ricochet handle two books at once?
Same way Wolverine handles fifty. And he's a ninja.

All joking aside, I really don't want a new Slingers book. But if Speedball gets out alive from Frontline, I want him back, in a ninja outfit, in a new New Warriors book, or whatever they'd chose to call themselves. Or make him go solo. I'd like that as well.

[curefreak]

Replace him with a ninja. Because ninjas are teh bestest thing evar and Hornet looked like a ninja, if you look real close.


Well, one's in the prison and I'd reckon the others could just magically appear before him. In fact, that's how I think every "where do I find this guy"-problem should be handled. Just have them appear out of thin air. Like ninjas.


Same way Wolverine handles fifty. And he's a ninja.

All joking aside, I really don't want a new Slingers book. But if Speedball gets out alive from Frontline, I want him back, in a ninja outfit, in a new New Warriors book, or whatever they'd chose to call themselves. Or make him go solo. I'd like that as well.
you're a ninja arent you?

[Locue]

you're a ninja arent you?
Nope. Metrosexual pirate.

[curefreak]

Nope. Metrosexual pirate.
how trendy:rolleyes:

[protege]

The Slingers?! But how would there be a Hornet? How would Spidey no where to find them? How does Ricochet handle two books at once?
He just bounces between them. And let's call the teen villains book- "Young Thunderbolts."

[Locue]

how trendy:rolleyes:
In the immortal (translated) words of Arseface: You betcha!

He just bounces between them. And let's call the teen villains book- "Young Thunderbolts."
I suggest The Sparkplugs.

[Slumber Hulk]

I'd love to see a New NW series! (Not based in reality TV and drawn so horribly as their last series).

The Roster:
Justice (leader)
Speedball
Firestar
Rage
Cloak
Dagger
and an original character to be made later.

[The Mirrorball Man]

I have to admit that I've never been interested in the New Warriors, apart from Skottie Young's excellent art in the latest series.

[Hulkamaniac]

I'm thinking "Slott on New Warriors in 2007".

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oh.......oh ........oh god, I gotta change my underpants now.

[Mark Thorson]

I think the two unanounced teams will be the Defenders and the Champions. Joe Q likes the names and Millar has mentioned them as well. I think they'll be part of the "initiative" after CW, or maybe one will be an underground anti-reg team.

[Shellhead]

DC was unable to keep two teen team books going for long. They had both Teen Titans and Infinity, Inc. for a few years, but post-Crisis Infinity Inc was considered to be redundant with Teen Titans and got cancelled. I'm not sure that Marvel needs another teen team right now, when they already have Young Avengers and Runaways.

[Slumber Hulk]

DC was unable to keep two teen team books going for long. They had both Teen Titans and Infinity, Inc. for a few years, but post-Crisis Infinity Inc was considered to be redundant with Teen Titans and got cancelled. I'm not sure that Marvel needs another teen team right now, when they already have Young Avengers and Runaways.

I'd agree that we don't need more teens. Continuity is a weird thing but I'd like to see the teem be early 20s, more young adults than teens.

[Red Lotus]

So the New New Warriors will be the Outsiders?


As an Outsiders fan I am highly insulted that you would lower them down by putting then in the same sentence with the New Warriors. :evilangry

[Cthulhudrew]

Teen villian book? Has that ever been done?!:eek:

That's f'n brilliant!

It's kind of being done, in Teen Titans right now. The Titans East would definitely fit the bill.

[Cthulhudrew]

He just bounces between them. And let's call the teen villains book- "Young Thunderbolts."

How about we have a Young Great Lakes Avengers book?

[hmnut73]

As an Outsiders fan I am highly insulted that you would lower them down by putting then in the same sentence with the New Warriors. :evilangry

As a New Warriors fan I am highly insulted that you would be insulted by putting them in the sentence as the Outsiders.

Despite how Marvel has anally raped them, the Warriors were once among the best book in the MU. It saddens me to see them reduced to cannon fodder and jokes of Comic book message boards.

[Shellhead]

Despite how Marvel has anally raped them, the Warriors were once among the best book in the MU.

You haven't read Identity Crisis, have you? Compared to that, the New Warriors got off easy.

[FrogMan]

Outsiders blows! New Warriors Rules!!!

The NW will be cool again. Just wait.

[drwho]

To me the Warriors aren't the warriors unless they are the originals. Hey wouldnt it be cool if that group of Warriors that died were actually programmed clones and the real ones were somewhere being held captured?

[curefreak]

To me the Warriors aren't the warriors unless they are the originals. Hey wouldnt it be cool if that group of Warriors that died were actually programmed clones and the real ones were somewhere being held captured?
im sick of clones being a dues ex machina its getting tired and old.

[Siddon]

Oh please just because we have Runaways, Young Avengers, Loners, New X-men, and Ultimate X-men doesn't mean we can't have a New Warriors team

My roster

Gravity
Human Torch
Speedball
Justice
Firestar
Dagger
Cloak

[FrogMan]

I agree. New Warriors is better than any of those titles, anyway. (and I LOVE Runaways and YA)

[shaunyc56]

Just give me someone in the Thrash armor, even his damn little brother, but I need to see Trash and Nova, back to back fighting the good fight. Actually, Thrash, Nova, and Speedball, create some women to round out the team and TA DAAAAAAAAA

[Slumber Hulk]

Oh please just because we have Runaways, Young Avengers, Loners, New X-men, and Ultimate X-men doesn't mean we can't have a New Warriors team

My roster

Gravity
Human Torch
Speedball
Justice
Firestar
Dagger
Cloak

I like that roster! Adding Torch and Gravity is a cool move. Perhaps a Torch-Firestar-Justice love triangle. I'd like to add Rage to that list.

[Blackcat]

Silhoutte should be on a new team too!

[Haunt]

Silhoutte should be on a new team too!


i think she'll, at least, guest-appear in the Loners book. she was in one of the sketch artwork.

[Xero]

Just give me someone in the Thrash armor, even his damn little brother, but I need to see Trash and Nova, back to back fighting the good fight. Actually, Thrash, Nova, and Speedball, create some women to round out the team and TA DAAAAAAAAA

Bandit would never wear Thrash's armor.
I can see a good team with...

Justice
Rage
Aegis
Gravity
Silhouette
Ultragirl
Debrii
Slapstick

[Mister Mets]

One theory I've read is that New Warriors will be relaunched as something like Civil Warriors, and that this is the new Dan Slott book.

It could focus on younger superheroes fighting in a world in which they're illegal, and I think it would work towards providing the team with something unique.

[Babylon23]

I'm not sure I'd like to see how Marvel would handle a new Warriors book. Maybe if Fabian was involved, or Slott, or Kirkman, I might check it out. I'd hate to see it go the way Thunderbolts is about to.

[firestarfan]

DC was unable to keep two teen team books going for long. They had both Teen Titans and Infinity, Inc. for a few years, but post-Crisis Infinity Inc was considered to be redundant with Teen Titans and got cancelled. I'm not sure that Marvel needs another teen team right now, when they already have Young Avengers and Runaways.

At this point, the New Warriors (or maybe just "Warriors?") would hardly be a "teen" book. Nova's got experience up the yin-yang, Justice and my hopefully-soon-to-be-formerly-retired Firestar were both Avengers, Speedball is certainly being hardened by this experience, and they could easily find a couple of others to fill out the roster. Granted, they're all technically teens (though I'm pretty sure Nova's in his 20's) but this would have a chance to be an AMAZING book, dealing with some intense subjects - Justice and Firestar breaking off their engagement, Speedy dealing with the Civil War aftermath, Nova not only having to deal with the fallout from Annihilation, but also the death of Namorita.

Warriors awareness is at an all-time high, and message boards have been flooded with us Warriors fans coming out in support. It would be a shame for Marvel to miss this opportunity.

[Slumber Hulk]

Bandit would never wear Thrash's armor.
I can see a good team with...

Justice
Rage
Aegis
Gravity
Silhouette
Ultragirl
Debrii
Slapstick

I'm not a fan of Slapstick. I was annoyed when he was in She-Hulk representing the New Warriors when his part in their history is so small. And Debrii, not very interesting, she was forced on the group by producers and they didin't really get on, I don't see her joing up with the worst PR team on the planet, nor them wanting her.

[Haunt]

I'm not a fan of Slapstick. I was annoyed when he was in She-Hulk representing the New Warriors when his part in their history is so small. And Debrii, not very interesting, she was forced on the group by producers and they didin't really get on, I don't see her joing up with the worst PR team on the planet, nor them wanting her.

agreed. they'd fit better with the Great Lake's Avengers.

[element13]

idk, my team would consist of


firestar-leader
debri
cloak
dagger
arana
ultra-girl(new name)
Gravity
Silhouette
Human Torch

I'd like to see firestar on her own for a while again...no more justice

[Haunt]

idk, my team would consist of


firestar-leader
debri
cloak
dagger
arana
ultra-girl(new name)
Gravity
Silhouette
Human Torch

I'd like to see firestar on her own for a while again...no more justice

not a bad team but wouldn't Firestar being on the team make Human Torch kind of useless/redundant?

[element13]

not a bad team but wouldn't Firestar being on the team make Human Torch kind of useless/redundant?


idk...conflict of powers can make for some good drama in comics, and considering their powers are so close we could have a flirtatious relationship betwen them, but firestar would never follow through due to her geelings and guilt for leaving justice. that would bring in some more conflict on a team

[Rich L]

At this point, the New Warriors (or maybe just "Warriors?") would hardly be a "teen" book. Nova's got experience up the yin-yang, Justice and my hopefully-soon-to-be-formerly-retired Firestar were both Avengers, Speedball is certainly being hardened by this experience, and they could easily find a couple of others to fill out the roster. Granted, they're all technically teens (though I'm pretty sure Nova's in his 20's) but this would have a chance to be an AMAZING book, dealing with some intense subjects - Justice and Firestar breaking off their engagement, Speedy dealing with the Civil War aftermath, Nova not only having to deal with the fallout from Annihilation, but also the death of Namorita.

Warriors awareness is at an all-time high, and message boards have been flooded with us Warriors fans coming out in support. It would be a shame for Marvel to miss this opportunity.

All true. I think Nova might play better out in space for a while, but I'd love to see the other three back on a team together - throw in Rage for good measure, and add Gravity and some other female (too bad Turbo's taken) and I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

But then I'd buy any New Warriors book in a heartbeat.

[element13]

hey, can someone give me some info on rage? i haven't heard much about him. also, i don't think that that nova will be returning to a team for a while. and also, this is unrelated to new warriors, but what is the team champions all about? i heard they might be coming back, and i also heard that if loners survives, then gravity will be going there.

[Rich L]

Rage was a kid named Elvin who was transformed into an adult super-strong powerhouse. In one of the Avengers worst every periods (under Larry Hama), he crashed the mansion demanding membership with the line "How come there aren't any righteous African-Americans in this chicken outfit?" (or something very, very close).

I kid you not.

Somehow he made it onto the team only to be told off by Cap when his true age was discovered. In a two-part Avengers fill in written by Fabian Nicieza, the Warriors and Avengers fought the Hate Monger, and Rage struck up a friendship with the younger heroes.

A (very) short time later, he helped the Warriors steal a Quinjet so they could help out Thrasher in the lead up to the 25th issue. After that, he was basically dismissed from the Avengers and started hanging with the Warriors full-time, striking up a close friendship with Speedball.

A while later, after the Poison Memories gang got ahold of Namorita's diary - including the Warrior's homelives - the Warrior's families were targeted; Nova's brother was kidnapped; Firestar's father was threatened, and Elvin (Rage's) beloved grandmother was murdered. After this he - kind of understandably - lived up to his namesake and got very, very angry. En-Rage-d you might say.

Eventually, he quit the Warriors to finish his education because that's what his grandmother would have wanted, though he has been seen in costume occasionally since - most recently in She-Hulk and Gravity.

For a character with an absolutely terrible introduction who was poorly handled for his first few appearances, he became a pretty well-rounded character and a good addition to the team.



He also - along with Speedball - kinda appeared in Fabian's Acclaim series Troublemakers in a fun one or two panel cameo.

[Haunt]

just my opinion but i think Rage has to have the worst personality and backstory of any marvel character. there is literally nothing i like about him. it's too bad that he was the team's defacto strong-man.

[Alistair]

"Civil Warriors" would be a hilarious book.

"I want to smack that scoundrel Terrax around the face, Vance."

"As do I, Elvin."

"Well, after you, Vance."

"No no, Elvin, I couldn't possibly. After you."

"Oh, I insist, Vance..."

and so on.

[G. Boney]

If they come back they need a new name IMO...They aren't "new" (well, if the original members who are still alive are included) anymore.

[element13]

then why not have them just be the warriors or something...or the redeemers considering what hapened with the last new warriors

[phantom1592]

I'd love to see a New NW series! (Not based in reality TV and drawn so horribly as their last series).

The Roster:
Justice (leader)
Speedball
Firestar
Rage
Cloak
Dagger
and an original character to be made later.


I would buy this. I would also want Nova to make some memorable appearances. He HAS to hook up with them when he hears about the others. Personally I would get Darkhawk on the team. To heck with Loners, I'd rather he was HERE! I don't care much for Cloak and Dagger, but they would help round out a roster well.

The way I see it is that the name is SOOOOO Damaged right now, that NO new characters will want anything to do with them. Justice (REALLY wish he had a better name. Heck I prefer Marvel boy to "justice") and the other founders would be trying to Redeem the name. Remind everyone of all the good the Warriors have done. Refusing to let their teammates be despised in death. Getting this group together without the original name kind of defeats the purpose.

[curefreak]

I would buy this. I would also want Nova to make some memorable appearances. He HAS to hook up with them when he hears about the others. Personally I would get Darkhawk on the team. To heck with Loners, I'd rather he was HERE! I don't care much for Cloak and Dagger, but they would help round out a roster well.

The way I see it is that the name is SOOOOO Damaged right now, that NO new characters will want anything to do with them. Justice (REALLY wish he had a better name. Heck I prefer Marvel boy to "justice") and the other founders would be trying to Redeem the name. Remind everyone of all the good the Warriors have done. Refusing to let their teammates be despised in death. Getting this group together without the original name kind of defeats the purpose.
how about "tk boy" would that be any better?:p

[phantom1592]

how about "tk boy" would that be any better?:p


hmm... with the right marketing, and a new mask..... Its an improvement.:D


I really want to see Vance more. I'm curious where his character would go now. Early he really wanted to be an Avenger, then most of the NW seems like forging him into the kind of hero who could make the grade. Now he's been an Avenger and walked away from it. What are his goals now?

[garin]

The way I see it is that the name is SOOOOO Damaged right now, that NO new characters will want anything to do with them. Justice (REALLY wish he had a better name. Heck I prefer Marvel boy to "justice") and the other founders would be trying to Redeem the name. Remind everyone of all the good the Warriors have done. Refusing to let their teammates be despised in death. Getting this group together without the original name kind of defeats the purpose.I'd like to see a one-shot of the surviving New Warriors coming together to try and redeem the name (as per your idea), but then have them involved in another Stamford-level event. I'm sorry, I think that would be hilarious.

[Haunt]

how about "tk boy" would that be any better?:p


how about just calling him 'Kinetic?'

[CMBMOOL]

In the upcoming game Marvel: Ultimate Alliance, guess who returing as a NPC:


Namorita

[curefreak]

In the upcoming game Marvel: Ultimate Alliance, guess who returing as a NPC:


Namorita
ugh, i want to see speedball he gets no respect !

[darkhawk76]

New Warriors without Night Thrasher is a no-no for me, it's Dwayne's team!

unless they can undo the heinous deaths of Thrasher and Namorita (Microbe can rot for all I care), then I won't be buying any possible series

[G. Boney]

NextWave would have actually been a decent new name for them, IMO...

Damn you Ellis!

[FrogMan]

NextWave? Nah.

So given recent events in ANNIHILATION, does this mean Nova knows about the New Warriors current situation, or does he just know about the super-heroes fighting each other?

[FrogMan]

The new series has been confirmed by Joe Q in a recent episode of Fanboy Radio (#347, I believe it was).

Told ja.

[Haunt]

The new series has been confirmed by Joe Q in a recent episode of Fanboy Radio (#347, I believe it was).

Told ja.

i bet it's nothing like what you're expecting.

[Slumber Hulk]

i bet it's nothing like what you're expecting.

And I bet its nothing like what your not expecting... er... I mean...

I hope its good!

[G. Boney]

Is this Slott's secret project?

[FrogMan]

i bet it's nothing like what you're expecting.

Well, considering all I was expecting was a NEW New Warriors series, it pretty well is what I was expecting. :)

[Blackcat]

Well, considering all I was expecting was a NEW New Warriors series, it pretty well is what I was expecting. :)
Believe me, there ain't gonna be any New Warriors series any time soon.

[FrogMan]

Joe Q just said there was one coming up, so how do ya figure?

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