New X-Men #32 - Selene's back! [Archive] - Comic Book Resources Forums

Oliverhannah

10-13-2006, 02:29 PM

Brilliant!!! i am so very happy in the world, thank you Chris Yost so much!

Why she want Wither and Exilir? what she do with them hmmmm....

Rumours: The team will get new member!!

What ur opinion about #32? Go on, tell me... don't be afraid ;) lol

Beast

10-13-2006, 02:36 PM

Yes, we know. We've known since the solicits back in September. Since all we have to go on so far is a cover and a solicit, it's a bit early for an opinion thread about New X-Men #32 which doesn't even come out until November 8th. Hell, we don't even have preview pages yet. Maybe you should start the tread when the actuall issue comes out, when it will actually make sense and be relevent. Just a suggestion.

Chris Yost

10-13-2006, 04:26 PM

Cayman

10-13-2006, 04:29 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing Wither again.

Oliverhannah

10-13-2006, 05:01 PM

You're welcome, Oliverhannah!

Craig and I are big fans of the Black Queen, and have big plans for her. We're glad you're excited! How great is that cover?

Not only does the issue feature Selene, but there's a cameo from two members of X-Factor, a few other guest stars, and some down time for the New X-Men kids. So much happened in 31, there's a lot for the kids to react to.

We hope you like it!

Best,

Chris

Hurray! I love ur cover! i am so very happy u write her!! HURRAY!! u make me so smile! :D

Can i ask you... Have Selene been defeat Nimrod before because i remember Hellfire Club been did defeat Nimrod, X-Men can't able defeat Nimrod??? :confused: Am i correct? :confused:

Reply me :D
Mr Yost!

sephirothskiller

10-13-2006, 05:09 PM

I'm psyched about this actually. To be honest, I really hated everything with the new creative team, and then by the end I liked it so much it was rediculous! So I'm firmly on board now, I probably owe some apologies for some letters though...

This ish will probably be split between the New X-Men and Wither. I don't know what X-Factor will be doing there, but I hope it includes yelling at Cyclops!!

Julian really isn't dead though right?

Right?

AnthonyJ

10-13-2006, 05:37 PM

Can i ask you... Have Selene been defeat Nimrod before because i remember Hellfire Club been did defeat Nimrod, X-Men can't able defeat Nimrod??? Am i correct?
The X-men defeated Nimrod in UXM #194.
Selene attacked Nimrod in UXM #209, without much effect; however, she was able to block his attack somewhat later. Nimrod was eventually defeated by the combined forces of the X-men and the Hellfire club.

I am not aware of later battles between them.

Oliverhannah

10-13-2006, 07:02 PM

The X-men defeated Nimrod in UXM #194.
Selene attacked Nimrod in UXM #209, without much effect; however, she was able to block his attack somewhat later. Nimrod was eventually defeated by the combined forces of the X-men and the Hellfire club.

I am not aware of later battles between them.

Thank You :D

Anyway did Nimrod finally destroyed now?

Can't wait to lookin forward to on #32!! YEAH!! I am so glad Chris and Craig have huge plan for Black Queen of the Hellfire Club, i am glad that she's back for good!...

fishtaco

10-13-2006, 08:21 PM

I am not aware of later battles between them.There are none. :)

Beast

10-13-2006, 08:22 PM

Thank You :D

Anyway did Nimrod finally destroyed now?
Well, this Nimrod was finally destroyed years ago. Since they retconned the original UXM Nimrod into being this Nimrod sent further back in time. Yes it's annoying and doesn't make a lot of sense, but what can you do.

Syzygy

10-14-2006, 04:50 AM

Selene attacked Nimrod in UXM #209, without much effect....

Since Nimrod is a robot--and therefore inanimate matter--Selene should have been able to disintigrate him with a thought. But for an unexplained reason, her power failed to affect him. I found it implausible, and wrote it off to Claremont simply playing a scene. He didn't want his killer robot destroyed yet, so Selene's power mysteriously had no effect upon him...despite the fact that by any intelligible measure, he's a true robot, and not a "living being".

Nimrod gets to have it both ways. If you can disintigrate inanimate matter, he's alive, so you can't effect him. If you have telepathy, he's an unliving robot, so (presumably) you can't mind blast him. The techno-organic Warlock was the same way; neither Emma Frost nor Selene could affect him. Of course, so far as we know, Nimrod is only techno, with no organic.

If this doesn't help explain things, it's because they've never been explained very well...to the best of my knowledge.

Peace,
Syzygy

d newton

10-14-2006, 05:02 AM

So who will be the second X Factor member that makes a cameo in Year 2, Chris? ;)

Metallurgique

10-14-2006, 08:06 AM

The effects of Nimrod's time-jump and his time with the Rodriguez family seem to have "mutated" him into something other than a Sentinel.

Although the X-men fought him to a standstill in UXM #194 and again in UXM #209, they were never able to beat him completely. Whenever he was badly beaten (and at the end of #209 he was a pile of parts) he'd teleport away and repair himself. Although I liked the current Arc, Nimrod was able to fix himself after far more damage in UXM #209 than he was after Stryker got through with him in this story.

Interestingly, in the wake of UXM #209 and X-factor #10, Sebastian Shaw is approached by Senator Kelly to "go full steam ahead on the Nimrod project." One has to wonder why Shaw would do that, given that Nimrod defeated him and killed his friend Harry Leland, but that was never explored. Much later in X-Force, Nimrod Red was not being created by Shaw industries but by a Government project.

Nimrod was only really defeated when MasterMold integrated him and then got pushed through the Siege Perilous (I loved that device...too bad Donald Pierce smashed it). But even then, the MasterNimrod came back as Bastian.

I'm glad to see Selene again and happy with the way the Nimrod Arc was resolved. It really did restore my faith in the title.

Oliverhannah

10-14-2006, 08:50 AM

So who will be the second X Factor member that makes a cameo in Year 2, Chris? ;)

Rahne Sinclair and Jamie Madrox

Michael P

10-14-2006, 09:45 AM

New X-Men fans may also want to check out this page from Stan Lee Meets Dr. Strange: http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n85/ScansDaily/ImpossibleMan/Impy04.jpg

Mikl C

10-14-2006, 12:54 PM

Yay! Loves me some Black Queen. Haven't seen her around in AGES. What else has she appeared in recently anyone?

fishtaco

10-14-2006, 04:25 PM

New X-Men fans may also want to check out this page from Stan Lee Meets Dr. Strange: http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n85/ScansDaily/ImpossibleMan/Impy04.jpgThat's hilarious. Great homage to New Mutants (1st Series) Annual #3 and a funny parody of the current situation. Who's writing Stan Lee Meets Doctor Strange?

CaptainCanada

10-14-2006, 04:39 PM

That section there (the Impossible Man story) is written by Brian Michael Bendis. Impy shows up to cause trouble, finds that everything is totally screwed up (he stops at the Baxter Building, the ruins of the Avengers Mansion, and the Xavier Institute), and angrily goes to find Stan Lee to complain. Eventually, Lee mollifies him with the platitude "change is good"; this pissed off a lot of people on message boards, but I take it as Bendis mocking his own rational, because it comes across as pretty flimsy in the story.

Oliverhannah

10-14-2006, 05:33 PM

Lemme guess... new members:

Onyxx take Rocksilde's place
Pixies take Hellions's place
Anole take David's place

Hellions and Rockslide need rest until when they are ready back to the team..

what do u think? Opinion me :s please go on..

Metallurgique

10-14-2006, 05:35 PM

I think they could use a strong man who's smarter. On the other hand, if it had been Onyxx or Indra fighting Nimrod, we'd be down one more now, so thankfully it wasn't.

Mariah

10-14-2006, 05:37 PM

I think they could use a strong man who's smarter. On the other hand, if it had been Onyxx or Indra fighting Nimrod, we'd be down one more now, so thankfully it wasn't.
I wouldn't mind if Onyxx wasn't around anymore. Just another bad character from Milligan's x-men run.

jarrod

10-14-2006, 05:38 PM

Selene and Forge... I may have to check this out...

jarrod

10-14-2006, 05:50 PM

I wouldn't mind if Onyxx wasn't around anymore. Just another bad character from Milligan's x-men run.
I liked Bling though... after Ro and Dani split, the school could use some more tough amazonian lesbo warrior goddesses. She should lead the New X-Men! :D

milly3cat

10-14-2006, 09:09 PM

New X-Men fans may also want to check out this page from Stan Lee Meets Dr. Strange: http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n85/ScansDaily/ImpossibleMan/Impy04.jpg

Thanks for the link, I loved it. :)

ibrakeforchinwe

10-14-2006, 09:53 PM

Yay! Loves me some Black Queen. Haven't seen her around in AGES. What else has she appeared in recently anyone?

She was in Uncanny last year.

d newton

10-14-2006, 10:48 PM

Rahne Sinclair and Jamie Madrox.
Are you sure it's Multiple Man as the second X Factor member or is this a guess on your part?

Oliverhannah

10-15-2006, 04:50 AM

No.. it true, Honesty! i try find website for you oka...

Atom_basher

10-15-2006, 04:54 AM

New X-Men fans may also want to check out this page from Stan Lee Meets Dr. Strange: http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n85/ScansDaily/ImpossibleMan/Impy04.jpg

that page is hilarious

Oliverhannah

10-15-2006, 05:00 AM

that page is hilarious

i know!! Laff My Ass Off :p hehehehe

d newton

10-15-2006, 06:59 AM

Which website did you find out who the second X Factor member to have a cameo?

Kal

10-15-2006, 08:05 AM

What happened to the "no spoilers in thread title" rule??? :X

Oliverhannah

10-15-2006, 08:05 AM

Which website did you find out who the second X Factor member to have a cameo?

Rahne Sinclair and Jamie Madrox will appearing on #32

if u don't believe me then ask Chris or Craig...
http://www.dynamicforces.com/htmlfiles/interviews.html?showinterview=IN09190602222

Oliverhannah

10-16-2006, 10:54 AM

Oooooo Chris say it's only a few weeks away for #32 come out!

HURRRAY!! Wonder Who's with Selene? Will she's alone with Wither?

Bobster777

10-17-2006, 08:25 AM

Well, hopefully they can recreate Selene into the villain she was meant to be. I think she got lost in the Hellfire Club over the years.

Oliverhannah

10-17-2006, 01:05 PM

Prob...
I would love to see Rockslide's mother turn out to be Zaladane and Wither's mother turn out to be Selene hehe

Could be interetsing!!

Vaal

10-17-2006, 01:42 PM

That would be painfully and spectacularly contrived.

AnthonyJ

10-17-2006, 02:09 PM

For some reason, every time I see this thread I expect to see an image of Selene's back. Probably in a strapless gown or something.

fishtaco

10-17-2006, 06:59 PM

Well, hopefully they can recreate Selene into the villain she was meant to be. I think she got lost in the Hellfire Club over the years.I think the beginning of her downward spiral began with Lobdell's incarnation of her as an Upstart.

Metallurgique

10-18-2006, 12:01 PM

Daithi

10-18-2006, 12:05 PM

Claremont and Simonson wrote the definitive Selene - she should've stayed the way she was.

Can't say I was too impressed with Claremont's portrayal of Selene recently.

Mariah

10-18-2006, 12:23 PM

Claremont and Simonson wrote the definitive Selene - she should've stayed the way she was.
Never liked Simonson's portrayal of Selene or Emma.

Oliverhannah

10-18-2006, 12:44 PM

What do Selene want? i mean she's alone but she got Wither with her.

Will Magma involved? I still don't get it.. i mean Selene is the great-grandmother of the Magma is true or false?

DDM

10-18-2006, 12:52 PM

I agree. With Lobdell, her speech pattern changed, then her outfits, ultimately her attitude.

She's supposed to be two thousand years old or so...so why in X-force was she reworked into a black-clad, black-haired emma who was "still evil?" It didn't make any sense, and it didn't gel with her older appearances. The character had lost all meaning - the same way Rahne losing her accent and hair in New Mutants V2 didn't make any sense.

Claremont and Simonson wrote the definitive Selene - she should've stayed the way she was.

Selene is far older than 2,000 years old. Selene constantly says she was old when mankind was young; furthermore, with her rival, Kulan Gath, proves she dates back at least to the Hyborean Age circa Uncanny X-Men #190-191. Kulan Gath is a Conan villain who makes his first modern appearance in Marvel Team-Up #79 by Chris Claremont & John Byrne.

DDM

10-18-2006, 12:57 PM

Well, hopefully they can recreate Selene into the villain she was meant to be. I think she got lost in the Hellfire Club over the years.

I think the Hellfire Club should have played a larger role in Chris Claremont's Uncanny X-Men, but the editors forbid Claremont bringing back Elias Bogan. Therefore, he was unable to resolve the Bogan/Shadow King/Selene connection.

Mariah

10-18-2006, 02:03 PM

I think the Hellfire Club should have played a larger role in Chris Claremont's Uncanny X-Men, but the editors forbid Claremont bringing back Elias Bogan. Therefore, he was unable to resolve the Bogan/Shadow King/Selene connection.
Which was a good thing. I'm tired of CC's stories about the Shadow King. The build up to the Muir Isle Saga was more than enough Shadow King drama for me. I wouldn't mind him spending some more time on Sinister, or perhaps Apocolypse.

Or hell, give us the real hellfire club, not the crap in ASStonishing, or his last hellfire club story.

Oliverhannah

10-19-2006, 09:41 AM

Excuse me when this issue come out?

Beast

10-19-2006, 09:44 AM

Excuse me when this issue come out?
November 8th, unless it's delayed.

Oliverhannah

10-19-2006, 11:20 AM

November 8th, unless it's delayed.

Really... i hope not!

Oliverhannah

10-19-2006, 12:57 PM

For some reason, every time I see this thread I expect to see an image of Selene's back. Probably in a strapless gown or something.

Did u see Selene background, do u think it possible people will haunted her who Selene kill the peoples of her past.. What do u reckon? hmmm

Beast?

chickrockguitar

10-21-2006, 12:28 PM

Craig and I are big fans of the Black Queen, and have big plans for her. We're glad you're excited! How great is that cover?

Not only does the issue feature Selene, but there's a cameo from two members of X-Factor, a few other guest stars, and some down time for the New X-Men kids. So much happened in 31, there's a lot for the kids to react to.

Thanks for posting Chris. Loved this new issue, it really rocked. I'm looking foward to seeing the kids "downtime". Heh.

chickrockguitar

10-21-2006, 12:34 PM

New X-Men fans may also want to check out this page from Stan Lee Meets Dr. Strange: http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n85/ScansDaily/ImpossibleMan/Impy04.jpg Haha, that was funny. I liked the way they drew Nori. Was that the entire scene, or...?

ibrakeforchinwe

10-21-2006, 12:55 PM

Haha, that was funny. I liked the way they drew Nori. Was that the entire scene, or...?

There was one more page with Nori.

Callisto

10-21-2006, 01:45 PM

i really hope chris yost keeps selenes shadow powers. she looked so delishiously evil with those.

Oliverhannah

10-22-2006, 04:58 AM

Is Selene's immune to Wither's power? I mean look the cover, Selene can't touch his head hmmm strange?

Zombienorthstar

10-22-2006, 07:19 AM

Thanks for posting Chris. Loved this new issue, it really rocked. I'm looking foward to seeing the kids "downtime". Heh.

Me too...one of my only criticisms of this run would be that its been slightly too 'go'.

I think we need a happy medium between the over soap operatic run of Nunzio and Christina and the action packed run of the two chris'

xakko

10-22-2006, 07:54 AM

Nimrod gets to have it both ways. If you can disintigrate inanimate matter, he's alive, so you can't effect him. If you have telepathy, he's an unliving robot, so (presumably) you can't mind blast him. The techno-organic Warlock was the same way; neither Emma Frost nor Selene could affect him. Of course, so far as we know, Nimrod is only techno, with no organic.

Professor X was able to "read" Warlock, but was unable to make sense of his thoughts.