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hitokiri_

10-11-2006, 01:54 PM

am i the only who thinks this is DC's favorite cliche? i mean, i love DC and all, but after IC, i figured out that cosmic threats (sans identity crisis) became DC's favorite event of the year. is this true?

StrikeForce Albert

10-11-2006, 03:26 PM

Anybdy can save the world, it takes someone with balls to save a universe. Hell, I saved the world twice....today...before I even took my morning crap

hitokiri_

10-11-2006, 04:12 PM

this is actually the reason why i loved identity crisis. it showed us that it doesn't need a galaxy slaying monster or an uber powerful force to eff up the heroes.

Lorendiac

10-11-2006, 05:05 PM

Early in the Giffen/DeMatteis run on the Justice League title they started in the late 1980s, I believe there's a time when the dialogue goes like this:

BATMAN: Forty-eight hours to save the world.

MARTIAN MANHUNTER: We've done it before, in less time.

BOOSTER GOLD (one of their wide-eyed new members): You HAVE?

That's probably not word for word, but I think it captures the gist of that moment. Booster was so new to this business that he didn't realize just how "boring" and "routine" it is to run out and save the world from Certain Doom before dinnertime, if you're a member of the Justice League! Eventually I suppose he probably got just as jaded as the old-timers, though! :)

Bloody Thumb

10-11-2006, 09:12 PM

"That's Nothing, I saved the Universe Twice this morning BEFORE My Cup of Coffee."

"Dude.... Isn't the Universe the name of Your Cat?"

" Shut Up."

XPac

10-11-2006, 09:41 PM

Though I'm a fan of the large scale cosmic stuff, I do think more personalized down to earth big events have their appeal too.

Identity Crisis and Civil War over on the Marvel end of things show that you don't need some uber cosmic plot device in order to create a nice cross over.

But I suppose it's almost understandable. Really, the Justice League alone is so ridiculously powerful they almost NEED cosmic threats to present any sort of challenge to them.

hitokiri_

10-12-2006, 01:10 PM

Gargus

10-12-2006, 04:19 PM

If they werent saving the universe they would be saving earth and we would have threads like "meh, the earth is in perile again".

hitokiri_

10-12-2006, 04:54 PM

If they werent saving the universe they would be saving earth and we would have threads like "meh, the earth is in perile again".

if it happens, expect me to do that.

Babylon23

10-12-2006, 08:32 PM

The universe in peril is one of the absolute standards of comic book storytelling. It's not only DC that uses it regularly (see Annihilation). Personally, I have no problem with it at all.

Count Vertigo

10-13-2006, 10:13 AM

The universe in peril is one of the absolute standards of comic book storytelling. It's not only DC that uses it regularly (see Annihilation). Personally, I have no problem with it at all.

It gets pretty boring focusing on character for a bit. I love these stories that encompass so many characters and teams. So I'm with Babylon

IamtheRock3

10-19-2006, 04:47 PM

Erebus

10-19-2006, 04:49 PM

Man, this was the STUPIDEST JLA in human history, even worse than the Detroit League! I mean, who the hell puts Ambush Bug on their team(who the @&^* is Ambush Bug anyways)? And I am pissed that we have lost ANOTHER new hero who coulda been cool as hell! First the new Kid Flash, now Super Chief II !!! Not to mention all those folks from the Everyman Project...This bloodthirsty new DC is frequently becoming a place I don't wanna be anymore.
Don't be hating on Ambush Bug. He's pretty tight.

blackphoenix

10-19-2006, 05:01 PM

Meh.
He wasn't funny at all to me. WHo the hell is he? Where did he come from?

90'sCartoonMan

10-19-2006, 05:23 PM

I take it he Immortal-Bald-Man-in-Armor series won't be launched until after 52 finishes? ;) (that name cracked me up! :D )

I was waiting to see something like a group of losers showing up with super powers.

Poor Super Chief. I liked how it lead back to Ralph's story, though.

Does Ambush Bug know more than he's letting on? The cover makes me want to pay more attention to his ramblings.

Paul Newell

10-19-2006, 05:23 PM

Meh.
He wasn't funny at all to me. WHo the hell is he? Where did he come from?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambush_bug

http://www.fourhman.com/ambushbug/index.html

He's been around for 24 years in the DCU.

ScottDMSimmons

10-19-2006, 06:19 PM

It's almost like Skeets is getting upgraded as time fluctuates, like the robot builders on the island. Skeets totally looked different this issue (and it looks like Firestorm did shoot at him and just missed).

Artwork nitpick: Weird to see what appear to be mountain ranges in Rhode Island. I lived there and there are some big hills, but that's a little much and they are more inland (some pics below)... and it's NOT a big state at all. I could drive up it in about an hour and across it in about 45 minutes. :-) Stated on Wikipedia: "Rhode Island is mostly flat with no real mountains. Rhode Island's highest natural point is Jerimoth Hill, only 812 feet (247 m) above sea level." I'll chalk this up to the artist(s), where maybe high hills, bluffs, cliffs, caves, or even high trees ended up becoming mountains in the finalized artwork. ((Comics-continuity wise, though, the Happy Harbor cave locale looked different from what I recall in the comics.)) Maybe I'm being overly critical, but Cincinnati also showed up in a prior issue and looked like any other city. Maybe because I've lived in both places, it'd be nice to see a real interpretation of them. Within Infinite Crisis: Day of Judgment, Dayton Ohio actually looked like Dayton Ohio. That was pretty cool.

Anyhow, this was a pretty cool issue (really liked J'Onn creating the statues for the fallen heroes), and I am freaked out by the peeks at the next issue, haha. I like Amush Bug, and the new Firestorm may be growing on me. I shed a tear for Tornado Ninja. Nice to see Atom Smasher again. This book is really heating up.

Scott

http://www.skypic.com/ri/9-3192.jpg

http://rst.gsfc.nasa.gov/Sect15/14.jpg

http://www.dailyencouragement.net/images/newport_cliffwalk.jpg

ScottDMSimmons

10-19-2006, 06:22 PM

Just because I sort of alluded to it before, can anyone tell me what this Cincinnati landmark inspired???

http://www.cyburbia.org/gallery/data/6273/medium/22Union-Terminal.jpg

Sean Whitmore

10-19-2006, 07:16 PM

Just because I sort of alluded to it before, can anyone tell me what this Cincinnati landmark inspired???

What is the Hall of Justice for $500, Scott?

SEAN

Sean Whitmore

10-19-2006, 07:20 PM

I definitely like some of the stories that are beeginning to percolate now. I dropped the series a while ago, but I may pick up the odd trade that deals more with the ideas I like.

Yay, J'onn! Good start to learning why he's so pissed off OYL. And I loved his tribute to the fallen Leaguers, and especially the way he treated Booster's memory with respect. (As for the reason there's a Yazz statue there amongst the deceased...it's because God loves me :) )

By the by, shouldn't Green Arrow still be on his island at the time of this story?

SEAN

BLACKMARVEL

10-19-2006, 08:45 PM

Shoudn't Osiris have changed to his normal human form when he said Black Adam? And if he does change wouldn't he still be handicapped because of his injuries last issue?

All-Star KASE

10-20-2006, 01:32 AM

to be fair the everymand project guys was design just to have a big group Death scene

my beef with Cheif is they spent some time giving him a backstory..which made him seem kind cool

which guess the point..but still was hoping to see him around

Well, it's not uncommon that people die pointless, meaningless deaths, no matter their backstory.

Rhydaman

10-20-2006, 05:07 AM

Shoudn't Osiris have changed to his normal human form when he said Black Adam? And if he does change wouldn't he still be handicapped because of his injuries last issue?
I wondered that. I also wondered how the UN went about establishing a new agency without the President of the US knowing about it. As the US has a veto on the UN's actions, and that.

BoosterBronze

10-20-2006, 09:18 AM

Shoudn't Osiris have changed to his normal human form when he said Black Adam? And if he does change wouldn't he still be handicapped because of his injuries last issue?

More importantly, how come he get's such a bitchin new costume and codename, while Captain Marvel Jr. gets a blue suit and a crummy name,

jasiem

10-20-2006, 02:17 PM

Maybe someone mentioned it already.....but I looked back at the issue where Booster goes into Rip Hunter's lab, and it seems that all of the arrows are pointing at Skeets not Booster Just a thought, and like I said I don't know if it was mentioned before.

SlightlyMad

10-20-2006, 06:25 PM

More importantly, how come he get's such a bitchin new costume and codename, while Captain Marvel Jr. gets a blue suit and a crummy name,

Yeah, being junior anything sucks. It could've been worse, they might have ended up calling him BA3! :eek: ;)

skally19

10-20-2006, 07:22 PM

More importantly, how come he get's such a bitchin new costume and codename, while Captain Marvel Jr. gets a blue suit and a crummy name,

maybe cause marvel was made in the 40's.

BLACKMARVEL

10-21-2006, 06:24 AM

More importantly, how come he get's such a bitchin new costume and codename, while Captain Marvel Jr. gets a blue suit and a crummy name,
Yeah, that is one badass costume!

Kintales

10-23-2006, 11:19 AM

Yay, J'onn! Good start to learning why he's so pissed off OYL. And I loved his tribute to the fallen Leaguers, and especially the way he treated Booster's memory with respect. (As for the reason there's a Yazz statue there amongst the deceased...it's because God loves me :) )

SEAN

Yeah, I like J'ohn's tribute to the fallen Leaguers, the part where he admitted he was guilty of ignorance and his efforts to eliminate Checkmate (or make amends).
Hmm...was J'ohn actually smiling when he stated that Checkmate has
paid for its crimes in that 1 panel. ;)

LtMarvel

10-23-2006, 02:02 PM

Anyone got a checklist of who's among the honored League dead?

MWGallaher

10-23-2006, 08:25 PM

to be fair the everymand project guys was design just to have a big group Death scene

my beef with Cheif is they spent some time giving him a backstory..which made him seem kind cool

which guess the point..but still was hoping to see him around
Anybody else get the feeling that they really blew the "real-time" feel by having Super-Chief go from having an origin one week to being a member of the "new JLA" in the next? I just couldn't swallow that happening to him over the course of a single week.

Paragon

10-24-2006, 02:25 AM

So MM spent a lot of time infiltrating the government to ensure that checkmate dies, since it contributed to the whole mess in which he lost his teammates.

Then immediately after, it gets created again with more authority, power and a wider base of operations.

Is this why he is angry now?

Hopefully there will be some more exposition.

Sean Whitmore

10-24-2006, 02:46 AM

gentlesatirist

10-24-2006, 06:38 AM

skally19

10-24-2006, 09:24 AM

he has to mean it. ha.

captain_unimpressive

10-24-2006, 03:39 PM

...but didn't the Osiris character say the words " Black Adam" in this issue?

So why didn't the magic lightning come down and change him back?

Hey, I'm not stupid. I've watched TV and stuff.

Any input would be appreciated.

- FE
Wickliffe OH

I assumed that Shazam was his word too.
I know, you say the name of the one who gave you the power, but Isis said "I am Isis"... although her power was from the Scarab and had nothing to do with the wizard or even Black Adam... okay, fine.
Although in Week 1 there was some stuff with the Rock of Eternity that prevented either Adam or Marv from changing back ("I see the word Shazam holds no power for either of us") though, if they can't change themselves, how the heck did BA create his own "Black Marvel Family" (a phrase he actually uses at least once)?

sly_kat

10-24-2006, 03:41 PM

He is the DCU's version of Kenny! I think he should be killed off in every major event.
marking the beginning and end of yet another crisis...

just read the issue and all i can say is woo... interesting that Faust's soul...withered to dust... and that the panel with the town turns to stone when we walks away... makes you wonder if this isnt some sort of set up for Ralph or... who is exactly behind the helm of Fate...
And Ambush Bug messed with us ... his three transformations arent shown... And the hint comes to pass, "the Four horsemen will end her rain.."

captain_unimpressive

10-24-2006, 04:08 PM

Anybody else get the feeling that they really blew the "real-time" feel by having Super-Chief go from having an origin one week to being a member of the "new JLA" in the next? I just couldn't swallow that happening to him over the course of a single week.

Well, I suppose that's why that old man chided Super-Chief for attempting "power without ordeal" or something like that.
Firestorm really does have connections, I guess.
Actually, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that, in one week, SC has gone from saying that he'd never want to be a superhero to joining a team and dying in the line of duty.

And the Extant theory does have some credence. There's been so much talk of time lately-between Rip Hunter's chalkboard, the inclusion of Booster Gold (time-traveling hero), and the concept of 52 itself, that it wouldn't be a stretch to have the heroes end up facing Mr. I-Use-Time-For-Evil-Purposes himself.

ChthonicSpirit

10-24-2006, 08:08 PM

Mirage? As in the former Titan? She's dead?

If so, I don't know whether to be pissed or overjoyed.

TheTen-EyedMan

10-24-2006, 08:49 PM

Well, that's it. D.C. just blew their wad with me.

It's become abundantly clear that they are replacing good, focussed and non-event writing with the Mort of the Week.

That's about it for D.C. then I think.

For me at least.