"If it's sausages, it must be Ramadan" - Muslim assimilation in England

[Paul McEnery]

Nice little story in The Guardian about Ramadam, Muslim eating habits, and assimilation. I figure the muslims on the board will be interested about how things are going down in England (and I'd be interested to hear their take).

And I figure Morts will be interested on the level of the halal/kosher aspect, too.

If it's sausages, it must be Ramadan. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1891499,00.html)

On an average day, I grab a slice of toast before I run out of the door to work. But during Ramadan, the prospect of not eating from sunrise to sunset drives families to get up early and sit down together to a hearty cooked breakfast to stave off the hunger pangs. And in the past few years, I've noticed some changes in the items gracing the breakfast bar: baked beans, sausages and hash browns have crept on to the menu.

Last Ramadan, I couldn't find a halal sausage for love or money. I scoured the specialist butchers, peered into supermarket chiller cabinets and visited practically every purveyor of Islamic meats in the city, to no avail. During my quest for artery-clogging bangers filled with Islamically acceptable meats such as chicken, lamb or beef, it suddenly dawned on me what was to blame for my sausageless situation: assimilation.

[Charles RB]

Ehwha? What's halal sausages being heavily bought got to do with cultural assimilation?

[Paul McEnery]

Ehwha? What's halal sausages being heavily bought got to do with cultural assimilation?
Read the story. It's about there not being any to be found. Apparently English muslims have gone native, and now it's about pies and pizza.

[Grazzt]

Ehwha? What's halal sausages being heavily bought got to do with cultural assimilation?

I think its because they're eating a traditional English breakfast (sausage, beans, toast, etc.) instead of a more Asian breakfast.

[Charles RB]

Read the story. It's about there not being any to be found.

I'm just not seeing how there's a mass of assimilation because they like eating sausages.

[Haunt]

the english really eat beans for breakfast? what kind of beans? i'm genuinely curious.

[Paul McEnery]

I'm just not seeing how there's a mass of assimilation because they like eating sausages.
No no no. The halal sausage is apparently traditional. (Cactus -- is this true?; cause I don't have a clue).

[Grazzt]

Baked beans.

Here's a picture of an english breakfast, courtesy of Wiki.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Full_English_Breakfast.JPG/800px-Full_English_Breakfast.JPG

[Paul McEnery]

I think its because they're eating a traditional English breakfast (sausage, beans, toast, etc.) instead of a more Asian breakfast.
And I believe it, because the best English breakfast I've had in years was at a notionally Muslim caff round the back of the Tower of London.

[howyadoin]

Baked beans.

Here's a picture of a full english breakfast, courtesy of Wiki.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Full_English_Breakfast.JPG/800px-Full_English_Breakfast.JPGWhat's with the mushrooms?

[Charles RB]

No no no. The halal sausage is apparently traditional.

So, the fact that. during Ramadam, a traditional halal food goes flying off the shelves and you can't find them anywhere means there's be assimilation?

[Grazzt]

What's with the mushrooms?

I have no clue. But apparently the Wiki article says that they're included as one of the mainstay ingredients.

[cactusmaac]

It's about as traditional as pizza is. The closes equivalent to a suasage is a seekh kebab which is different altogether.

I'm not sure what the point of the story is. Asian breakfasts (fried eggs, omelettes, jam on toast, cereal etc) are the same in the UK and the subcontinent. It's inevitable people will eat a lot of the same food when they're in a particular country. It doesn't have much to do with cultural assimilation at all.

[Haunt]

Baked beans.

Here's a picture of an english breakfast, courtesy of Wiki.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Full_English_Breakfast.JPG/800px-Full_English_Breakfast.JPG


wow! i bet you'd have a lot of energy after eating something like that. i'm usually stuck with a bowl of corn chex.

[Paul McEnery]

So, the fact that. during Ramadam, a traditional halal food goes flying off the shelves and you can't find them anywhere means there's be assimilation?
Well, the story is that they weren't on the shelves in the first place. I think.

[Charles RB]

Here's a picture of an english breakfast, courtesy of Wiki.

Outside of pubs and cafe's, I've never actually eaten or seen anyone eat a breakfast like that. I usually just go with toast.

[drwho]

Nothing like some bangers and mash for breakfast.

[Iangould]

What's with the mushrooms?

They taste good.

You just drop them in the fry pan along with everything else.

[Ray R.]

Baked beans.

Here's a picture of an english breakfast, courtesy of Wiki.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Full_English_Breakfast.JPG/800px-Full_English_Breakfast.JPG

Hmm......looks like a typical English breakfast I've had, except remove the tomatos, beans, mushrooms, and possibly eggs and add more fried meat. Lots more fried meat.

[Charles RB]

Hmm......looks like a typical English breakfast I've had, except remove the tomatos, beans, mushrooms, and possibly eggs and add more fried meat. Lots more fried meat.

Now THAT'S what I call an English breakfast! :)

[Zombienorthstar]

Yeah on behalf of my nation i must stress that this sort of breakfast isnt a daily occurence.

[Rachel Grey]

Oh! Cultural Assimilation! Right right.


Resistance is futile.

[king mob]

I'm puzzled by this story, it's as if the author has just sussed out that Muslims eat sausages other than halal.

[thehod]

I'm puzzled by this story, it's as if the author has just sussed out that Muslims eat sausages other than halal.

They drink beer too. And watch telly. Some of them even wear <gasp> jeans.

Its as if they were people, just like us.

[thomas_catbiscuit]

as far as i'm aware things like english breakfast are eaten and cooked on sundays by joe public, but if you fancied one but couldnt be arsed cooking it, then you can get them from a greesy spoon cafe.
bacon and sausage buttys are more likely to be eaten rather than a full breakie.

[Motormouse]

They taste good.

You just drop them in the fry pan along with everything else.

Can i just say that mushrooms and Black Pudding have no place in a Full English. They taste like shit! I mean, do you really want to eat fried congealed pigs blood for breakfast?

[king mob]

They drink beer too. And watch telly. Some of them even wear <gasp> jeans.

Its as if they were people, just like us.


I've just been in the pub with one was was <shock> watching the footy and cheering on England!!!!!!!!! He even drank <the horror> Coke and called Andriy Shevchenko a diving bastard!!!

[The Confessor]

Can i just say that mushrooms and Black Pudding have no place in a Full English. They taste like shit! I mean, do you really want to eat fried congealed pigs blood for breakfast?

Errrr...that's no worse than eating a sausage. They're made from eyes, lips and arsehole! :D

[Grazzt]

Outside of pubs and cafe's, I've never actually eaten or seen anyone eat a breakfast like that. I usually just go with toast.

To be fair to them, the Muslims who are celebrating Ramadan aren't going to be eating for the rest of the day. So I wouldn't be surprised if they go whole hog, at least while Ramadan is on.

[Iangould]

To be fair to them, the Muslims who are celebrating Ramadan aren't going to be eating for the rest of the day. So I wouldn't be surprised if they go whole hog, at least while Ramadan is on.

Somehow I don't think "hog" is quite the right word here.