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Lord of Denial
10-10-2006, 12:15 PM
A friend and myself where discussing this topic the other day and we both had different answers to it and I suspect almost everyone does.

So what in your personal opinion is the worst crime a person can commit?

moebius
10-10-2006, 12:16 PM
I choose genocide.

Paul McEnery
10-10-2006, 12:17 PM
I choose genocide.
Though being Jeffrey Archer comes a close second.

Winslow
10-10-2006, 12:19 PM
Collecting all of the multiple covers on a single issue.

Stellar
10-10-2006, 12:19 PM
IMO, the only thing worse than genocide is performing genetic experiments on or torturing a large population rather than or before killing them.

Grazzt
10-10-2006, 12:23 PM
Wiping out the entire universe.

Because that's where I keep my stuff.

Lord of Denial
10-10-2006, 12:23 PM
I was thinking along the lines a crime every person could commit. Genocide is a crime only a select few people in a place of power and with vast resources could commit.

hoffmandu
10-10-2006, 12:26 PM
Dipping ones ballzack in the mash potatoes before serving them. Very uncool.

Arrjay
10-10-2006, 12:27 PM
I was thinking along the lines a crime every person could commit. Genocide is a crime only a select few people in a place of power and with vast resources could commit.

In that case I would say murder.

Rape would be a close second.

Winslow
10-10-2006, 12:28 PM
I was thinking along the lines a crime every person could commit. Genocide is a crime only a select few people in a place of power and with vast resources could commit.

With that qualification, murder.

Super Hero Guy
10-10-2006, 12:32 PM
Torture and then murder.

Lord of Denial
10-10-2006, 12:32 PM
With that qualification, murder.


I would say molesting a child is way up there.

When a person does that the mental pain and suffering can last a lifetime.

(A)//(E)
10-10-2006, 12:33 PM
I would say molesting a child atleast is in the running.

When you do that the mental pain and suffering can last a lifetime.
that's why I'm putting rape ahead of murder for this.

Lord of Denial
10-10-2006, 12:36 PM
that's why I'm putting rape ahead of murder for this.


Even in a prison full of murders a child molestor is looked as nothing more than scum. That tells you a lot right there.

Magneto_X
10-10-2006, 12:37 PM
I would say molesting a child is way up there.

When a person does that the mental pain and suffering can last a lifetime.

Yup. Even in prison inmates who do this are considered the lowest of the low.

BoosterBronze
10-10-2006, 12:38 PM
That dude who shot up the Amish school? What he did.

Captain Murphy
10-10-2006, 12:42 PM
Farting on the bus

HomerJay
10-10-2006, 12:45 PM
Farting in an elevator.

Mike Pothier
10-10-2006, 12:51 PM
Definitely child molestation/rape. I've seen the effects this has.

StoneGold
10-10-2006, 12:53 PM
Raping babies to death... while burning the American flag! Hat trick!

Dreadstar
10-10-2006, 12:55 PM
Rape of a pre-pubescent is tops of my list.

Murder comes a very distant second or third or whatever, because there's just some people that need killin'.

Davideaux
10-10-2006, 12:57 PM
Raping babies to death... while burning the American flag! Hat trick!

Aw shit! That's the most sinisterest shit ever!

BYC
10-10-2006, 12:59 PM
It's gotta be murder. There's no other crime a single person can do that ends lives, with no chance the victim can somehow recover.

Rape and child sex crimes are horrible certainly, but positives can still come from the victims. They still have a chance to become useful members of society.

There's usually not motivational speakers talking about how commiting murder helped their lives for the better. Other crimes have a chance to let the victims simulate and motivate themselves to help the world.

I believe, in the end, taking a life is the ultimate crime. Hopefully, mankind will not find a worse crime.

cactusmaac
10-10-2006, 12:59 PM
Killing somebody for no particular reason.

StoneGold
10-10-2006, 01:01 PM
Having dogs rape babies to death and selling the videos on the internet.

Slam_Bradley
10-10-2006, 01:07 PM
Rape of a pre-pubescent is tops of my list.

Murder comes a very distant second or third or whatever, because there's just some people that need killin'.


I'm Slam Bradley and I agree with this message.

macul
10-10-2006, 01:09 PM
Murder with rape coming in a close second.

StoneGold
10-10-2006, 01:09 PM
Raping a pregnant woman, impregnating her fetus, then aborting the fetus' fetus.



Although I'm not sure that's actually biologically possible.

StoneGold
10-10-2006, 01:10 PM
Murder with rape coming in a close second.
While it is creepier if you do it that way, it is less psychologically torturous for the victim.

Dreadstar
10-10-2006, 01:12 PM
While it is creepier if you do it that way, it is less psychologically torturous for the victim.

HAH! Beat me to it.

Sanagi
10-10-2006, 01:31 PM
Seems pretty obvious - Torture to the point where the victim wishes for death but is not granted it.

Haunt
10-10-2006, 01:33 PM
child molestation - it's the crime that keeps on giving

darkkeeperjr
10-10-2006, 01:40 PM
Seems pretty obvious - Torture to the point where the victim wishes for death but is not granted it.

Shoe shopping with your girl friend.

Lord of Denial
10-10-2006, 01:48 PM
Shoe shopping with your girl friend.


Please, try furniture shopping with your wife. You will remember shoe shopping fondly!

Harlock
10-10-2006, 03:11 PM
Hmm, I have a problem picking one. Rape (including child molestation), and then the sort of kidnapping + physical and psychological torture one fears after seeing stuff like Saw or Silence of the Lambs.

Gilda Dent
10-10-2006, 03:23 PM
Murder should be ahead of rape/child molestation. It's possible to recover from the latter to an extent that one can have a decent life. That's not possible for murder.

Gilda

darkkeeperjr
10-10-2006, 03:28 PM
Posioning the well!

Slam_Bradley
10-10-2006, 03:56 PM
Posioning the well!


Even worse than putting a snake in someone's boot.

Zombienorthstar
10-10-2006, 04:03 PM
Even in a prison full of murders a child molestor is looked as nothing more than scum. That tells you a lot right there.

It tells me 'If you cant accept the moral judgment of a murderer then who can you trust really?'

hoffmandu
10-10-2006, 04:11 PM
Crapping on, or in the vicinity of the coats.

Lord of Denial
10-10-2006, 04:19 PM
It tells me 'If you cant accept the moral judgment of a murderer then who can you trust really?'


Or it tells me there are some crimes even a murderer would not commit.

Gladiaria_Alata
10-10-2006, 04:23 PM
Intentionally driving someone into insanity (through torture, or whatever), rape/child molestation, then murder.

i_mmmchocolate
10-10-2006, 04:27 PM
Even in a prison full of murders a child molestor is looked as nothing more than scum. That tells you a lot right there.
Yep.

I'd go so far as to say any crime against a child.

Thanos_6383
10-10-2006, 04:34 PM
I choose genocide.

I agree.Genocide takes it.

StoneGold
10-10-2006, 06:00 PM
Yep.

I'd go so far as to say any crime against a child.
Taking candy from a baby?

Valmore
10-10-2006, 06:11 PM
Taking candy from a baby?

Pullman posted a story about a woman using her baby to beat her boyfriend.

I think that should be pretty high up there - abuse of children is pretty damned heinous.

StoneGold
10-10-2006, 06:12 PM
Pullman posted a story about a woman using her baby to beat her boyfriend.

I think that should be pretty high up there - abuse of children is pretty damned heinous.
I was threatening my 6 year old cousin the other night that I was going to throw his 9 month old sister at him if he wasn't behaving. Does that count?

Valmore
10-10-2006, 06:14 PM
I was threatening my 6 year old cousin the other night that I was going to throw his 9 month old sister at him if he wasn't behaving. Does that count?

Threatening is kinda bad, too. But not nearly as bad as if you actually went and did it.

TheTen-EyedMan
10-10-2006, 06:17 PM
Children - hands down. That's why JonBenet Ramsey affects everyone so deeply.

Olivia told me about this asshole in Sydney, Australia who killed old women. That's pretty bad too.

StoneGold
10-10-2006, 06:19 PM
Children - hands down. That's why JonBenet Ramsey affects everyone so deeply.

Olivia told me about this asshole in Sydney, Australia who killed old women. That's pretty bad too.
Raping old women to death with baby corpses?

TheTen-EyedMan
10-10-2006, 06:31 PM
Raping old women to death with baby corpses?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Glover

He hit them on the head with a hammer.

Had mommy issues.

Asshole.

Glad he's dead.

Woodwose
10-10-2006, 10:20 PM
I would say molesting a child is way up there.

When a person does that the mental pain and suffering can last a lifetime.

I agree.

At least the victim is dead after murder.

thehod
10-11-2006, 12:51 AM
Waking me up to go to fucking Ikea first thing on a Sunday morning ranks pretty high in my opinion.

TheTen-EyedMan
10-11-2006, 02:01 AM
Waking me up to go to fucking Ikea first thing on a Sunday morning ranks pretty high in my opinion.

You married her.

Marriage has to be the worst crime out there.

People do it willingly...almost viciously.

It's like a long boring dinner party with people you hate that has the desert at the beginning.

Lord of Denial
10-11-2006, 04:55 AM
Raping old women to death with baby corpses?


It stopped being funny on your 10,000th or so joke on the subject.

Gilda Dent
10-11-2006, 06:12 AM
I agree.

At least the victim is dead after murder.

Which is not a better outcome.

Gilda

Sabrinaset
10-11-2006, 06:17 AM
Which is not a better outcome.

Gilda

I dunno Gilda, speaking from personal experience, there are many times the victim wishes she WAS dead. At least there would be an end to the pain.

Gilda Dent
10-11-2006, 06:31 AM
I dunno Gilda, speaking from personal experience, there are many times the victim wishes she WAS dead. At least there would be an end to the pain.

I understand that. I've felt the same way on occasion. It's normal to want the pain to go away, but some degree of healing is always possible when you're alive. A damaged life can still be a good life, even if it is less than it would have been otherwise.

Gilda

Mac Danny
10-11-2006, 06:32 AM
Stampeeding Cattle... Through the Vatican!

TheTen-EyedMan
10-11-2006, 06:47 AM
Stampeeding Cattle... Through the Vatican!

http://www.musicbiz.com/columns/guarino/archives/harvey%20korman1.JPG

"KINKY!"

YoungG03
10-11-2006, 09:35 AM
Having dogs rape babies to death and selling the videos on the internet.



thats out a stephan king novel?

Jeff Brady
10-11-2006, 10:12 AM
Perpetuating e e cummings disease.

Dreadstar
10-11-2006, 10:35 AM
Perpetuating e e cummings disease.

Baby-rapers, the lot.

Ed Cunard
10-11-2006, 10:45 AM
Perpetuating e e cummings disease.

I think the correct term is pseudocummingsian dysliterae.

Mac Danny
10-11-2006, 10:53 AM
http://www.musicbiz.com/columns/guarino/archives/harvey%20korman1.JPG

"KINKY!"


LOL, Thanks!

hoffmandu
10-11-2006, 11:22 AM
Rape? Child molesting? PFFT! How about having to pay $6 for a cheap beer (bud, millerlight) at the MetroDome. Now that's a crime.

Gilda Dent
10-11-2006, 11:26 AM
Rape? Child molesting? PFFT! How about having to pay $6 for a cheap beer (bud, millerlight) at the MetroDome. Now that's a crime.

If it's $6, doesn't that make it an expensive beer?

Gilda

Davideaux
10-11-2006, 11:29 AM
I think plagiarism deserves the death penalty.

hoffmandu
10-11-2006, 11:32 AM
If it's $6, doesn't that make it an expensive beer?

Gilda

cheap in quality

Dreadstar
10-11-2006, 11:42 AM
cheap in quality
Probably the cheapest on the menu, too. Do they have higher priced suds?

Everything's relative. A buck a bottle of Bud at the local watering hole might be cheap compared to the rest of the watering holes, but you'd never buy a 6-pack at the grocer for $6.

Haunt
10-11-2006, 03:26 PM
I understand that. I've felt the same way on occasion. It's normal to want the pain to go away, but some degree of healing is always possible when you're alive. A damaged life can still be a good life, even if it is less than it would have been otherwise.

Gilda

but you're not looking at it at from the standpoint of someone who believes in reincarnation. this murdered individual might have a chance at an even greater life (sans-suffering).

Gladiaria_Alata
10-11-2006, 04:23 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Glover

He hit them on the head with a hammer.

Had mommy issues.

Asshole.

Glad he's dead.

*nods* Hope he rots in Hell.

TheTen-EyedMan
10-11-2006, 04:26 PM
Apparetly, now it's making distasteful jokes about Cory Lidle.

Which is cool.

But then I'm a White Sox fan.

Gilda Dent
10-11-2006, 05:53 PM
but you're not looking at it at from the standpoint of someone who believes in reincarnation. this murdered individual might have a chance at an even greater life (sans-suffering).

I'm not sure I'd like where that line of thinking would end up.

Gilda

Pinball
10-11-2006, 06:47 PM
I thought of that Wonder Woman issue where Dr Psycho was psychicaly torturing a baby in the womb.

Have you ever heard a baby scream?:eek: :( :mad:

Alan2099
10-11-2006, 06:50 PM
Forcing somebody to rape an underaged reliative at gunpoint.

TheTen-EyedMan
10-11-2006, 07:14 PM
Being Gary Condit comes to mind.

http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/072301conditgary.jpg

StoneGold
10-11-2006, 07:32 PM
I thought of that Wonder Woman issue where Dr Psycho was psychicaly torturing a baby in the womb.

Have you ever heard a baby scream?:eek: :( :mad:
Yes. Frequently. That and shit are about the only things they do.

StoneGold
10-11-2006, 07:34 PM
Forcing somebody to rape an underaged reliative at gunpoint.
See, you would have had it if it were not at gunpoint, but at rapepoint. You know, threatening someone with rape to rape their underage relative.


And then, you know, raping them. I mean, at that point might as well.

Erebus
10-11-2006, 07:47 PM
When someone who knowingly has AIDS or HIV has sex with multiple partners without protection.

J. Robb
10-11-2006, 07:53 PM
I think plagiarism deserves the death penalty.

Mike Pothier
10-11-2006, 08:17 PM
When someone who knowingly has AIDS or HIV has sex with multiple partners without protection.

Good one. People who do that need a painful death.

Suzanne
10-11-2006, 08:25 PM
Jaywalking.

Pinball
10-11-2006, 08:56 PM
Yes. Frequently. That and shit are about the only things they do.
That's just everyday stuff like "I want some milk!" "I need a new diaper!" "I can't find my favorite toy!", not "MY TOES ARE GETTING CUT OFF!!!"

StoneGold
10-11-2006, 09:31 PM
I think plagiarism deserves the death penalty.

TheTen-EyedMan
10-12-2006, 12:59 AM
I think plagiarism deserves the death penalty.

Mike Smash!
10-12-2006, 01:05 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/mikegillis/batman-and-robin-01.jpg

TheTen-EyedMan
10-12-2006, 01:20 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/mikegillis/batman-and-robin-01.jpg


JIHADENT!!!!!!!!!!

Norrin Radd
10-12-2006, 06:57 AM
"What's the worst crime a person can commit?"

Cosmocide.

Look it up.

TheTen-EyedMan
10-12-2006, 07:37 AM
"What's the worst crime a person can commit?"

Cosmocide.

Look it up.


http://www.marveldirectory.com/pictures/individuals/b_1d/beyonder.gif

'THIS AIN'T ROCK AND ROLL...THIS IS COSMOCIDE!"

Ed Cunard
10-12-2006, 07:38 AM
It's only cosmocide, but I like it.

TheTen-EyedMan
10-12-2006, 07:40 AM
It's only cosmocide, but I like it.


God gave cosmocide to you, gave cosmocide to you...gave cosmocide to everyone!

Norrin Radd
10-13-2006, 03:48 PM
And I've always liked the term "planocide".

I got that from an issue of Thor.

Seeing as how this is a comics forum, I thought I could get away with saying that.

CoffeeStained
10-13-2006, 08:35 PM
All of the worst crimes a person can commit require the use of a cellphone at inappropriate times and places. Restaurants, theatres, vehicles, bathrooms, nightclubs. Don't make me kill you.

Night
10-13-2006, 10:25 PM
I'd have to say child molestation.

Just about anything else there's always someone saying "Well it's society's fault"

Boldido
10-13-2006, 11:29 PM
If you want to know the worst, you don't have to look any further than John Couey here in Florida. He was the animal that kidnapped, raped and then buried alive little Jessica Lunsford. She was found in a grave still clutching her beloved stuffed dolphin.

If you have to pick one, then I would clearly go with murder. People talk about the pain that victims of childhood sexual abuse have to endure, and there no doubt in my mind that it is horrific, but they are alive to tell the tale. We have no ability to hear from the victims of murder, so I'm not so quick to make victim accounts the yard stick by which we measure.

Were being a survivor of childhood sexual abuse worse than death, I would also expect a 100% suicide rate among its victims, but we clearly do not have that either.

I agree with Gilda when she says that at least victims of sexual offenses have the opportunity to heal. That is an opportunity the victims of murder will never be afforded.

Reptisaurus!
10-13-2006, 11:56 PM
From my point of view, torture seems a lot more alien than murder.

Which makes it worse, at least in my mind.

I can certainly imagine circumstances where I'd buy a gun and go shoot somebody in the head. Bam, one shot. And, um, not feeling too bad afterwards.

I don't think I could torture someone, though. It's just not in me. So I find it easier to condone murder than torture.

CoffeeStained
10-16-2006, 06:31 PM
The crime currently receiving the harshest penalty is getting in between Bush and oil. Or Cheney and quail.

Jeff Brady
10-16-2006, 06:34 PM
The crime currently receiving the harshest penalty is getting in between Bush and oil. Or Cheney and quail.

If only it could be Cheney & Quayle.

TheTen-EyedMan
10-16-2006, 07:15 PM
If you want to know the worst, you don't have to look any further than John Couey here in Florida. He was the animal that kidnapped, raped and then buried alive little Jessica Lunsford. She was found in a grave still clutching her beloved stuffed dolphin.


Is that insect even still breathing?

If so, that's something that should be stopped forthwith, perhaps slowly and painfully.

Reptisaurus!
10-17-2006, 02:07 PM
Or Cheney and quail.

You callin' my VP and Orthinophile?

hoffmandu
10-17-2006, 02:18 PM
I would say talking a crap in a Mall Of America stall, yet not in the toilet. But right in front of it. I'm talking a man-sized pile here. True story.

Nikita
10-20-2006, 12:13 AM
A friend and myself where discussing this topic the other day and we both had different answers to it and I suspect almost everyone does.

So what in your personal opinion is the worst crime a person can commit?


Sexual torture of women and children.

StoneGold
10-20-2006, 12:17 AM
Being attacked by the dogs with the bees in their mouths, and when they bark they shoot bees at you.

Super Hero Guy
10-20-2006, 12:32 PM
A case that happened about a year ago near where I live. A man outside of a bar was smoking, and a gang of people get out of a car to go to the convenient store next door. Somehow, the smoking man and one of the gang members bump into each other, they start talking shit, shoving each other, but fall short of actually fighting.

Half an hour later, the gang member has gone to his house, gotten a butcher knife and returns to the bar and stabs the man in the stomach.

I would say this and any murders of similar motive should rank pretty high.

Michael P
10-20-2006, 12:33 PM
Stealing my Lord of the Rings DVDs.

Seriously, dude, when I find you, and I will, your ass is dead.

Dreadstar
10-20-2006, 12:38 PM
I would say this and any murders of similar motive should rank pretty high.

Oh c'mon, the guy OBVIOUSLY disrespected him, yo.

Stellar
10-20-2006, 03:34 PM
Stealing my Lord of the Rings DVDs.

Seriously, dude, when I find you, and I will, your ass is dead.

request permission to sig that, cap'n

hoffmandu
10-20-2006, 04:12 PM
Popping a woodrow during a routine physical.

pre-marital boom-boom-blast

laughing at fat guys

dropping the f-bomb in front of your grandmother at Easter Brunch

dropping the Z-bomb in front of your grandmother at Easter Brunch (if you don't know, you can't afford it)

Stellar
10-20-2006, 04:53 PM
how about taking a whiz in the pool? while in it? with other people?

Michael P
10-20-2006, 04:55 PM
request permission to sig that, cap'n
You owe me two cents every time you post.


Just kidding. Go for it.

CoffeeStained
05-04-2007, 01:01 PM
The worst crime a person can commit is reviving dead threads.

fly on the wall
05-04-2007, 01:05 PM
Probably raping your kids.

hoffmandu
05-04-2007, 01:09 PM
taking a crap in the upper-deck.

bfrank
05-04-2007, 01:16 PM
wearing white after labor day.......

Eternal Torment
05-04-2007, 01:20 PM
how about taking a whiz in the pool? while in it? with other people?

How about pissing ON someone in the pool while other people are watching?

CoffeeStained
05-04-2007, 01:23 PM
how about taking a whiz in the pool? while in it? with other people?
Using the same equipment, rhymes with 'whiz'. A bit worse.

P-Man
05-04-2007, 02:19 PM
Using the same equipment, rhymes with 'whiz'. A bit worse.

A bit worse? More like a hell of a good time!

mgs
05-04-2007, 08:07 PM
IMO, the only thing worse than genocide is performing genetic experiments on or torturing a large population rather than or before killing them.

I agree. Anything where you make someone/thing suffer and/or put them in pain and extreme anguish is the worst thing you can do to them. (rape, torture, etc.)

Monty_Cristo
05-04-2007, 08:24 PM
raping a dead prepubescent thread while taking a dump on the bible.

Captain Murphy
05-05-2007, 07:04 AM
taking a crap in a public pool and blaming the dog, even though you dont have one

Brian "Vash" Ashby
05-05-2007, 08:04 AM
Murder should be ahead of rape/child molestation. It's possible to recover from the latter to an extent that one can have a decent life. That's not possible for murder.

Gilda

I disagree

Mostly because many victims of child abuse in turn become child abusers. Its cyclical.

Murder is a needle prick. Child molestation is a cancer.

rick
05-05-2007, 08:42 AM
Of all the crimes against humanity, none really hit me as being worse then being a Mime.

Murder, rape and torturing kittens is one thing, but bugging people waiting for a bus by pretending to be trapped in an invisible box, or losing a tug of war with some invisible foe really deserves nothing less then having the fiend actually sealed inside a real glass box, that is then dropped into the middle of the Indian Ocean.

CoffeeStained
05-06-2007, 09:18 PM
Airtight, and thick enough that the mime can't break it, but thin enough that after a few atmospheres of pressure it shatters inward.