52 setting DC up for failure?

[jam37wcc]

I was looking at my spending habits on comics lately and thinking that once 52 ends I will basically be dropping four titles. It got me thinking, once I drop those I don't plan on replacing them with more titles, plus I don't think DC could put out four more books that I would have to have. So when 52 ends that takes four books out of the top ten(if they don't fall out before then), can they replace that kind of sales with four new ongoings or mini-series, or will we see Marvel really take over the sales because OYL will be long gone and DC said they didn't want to do another big crossover. So what happens because I would assume that they would try to do something to counter four top ten books going away.

[Jack Zodiac]

If they were smart, they'd look at the incredible success this weekly series about C-list characters had and attempt another weekly anthology about underused characters.

[The Joker]

Well I expect some more announcements about new ongoing, as well as limited series comics based on B/C list characters in the DCU once 52 starts coming to a close. So, no. I dont think DC has/is setting themselves up for a failure. The goal in 52 is to get more people interested in the DCU, as well as characters that might not have recieved their chance to shine without the aid of the 52 arc. I believe, so far, DC has been successful at this.

[jam37wcc]

If they were smart, they'd look at the incredible success this weekly series about C-list characters had and attempt another weekly anthology about underused characters.

But would you really want to burden yourself with trying to put out a weekly and how long could you keep top writers on it and eventually all the material would turn to filler. I think with books like the Confidentials and Classifieds you don't need an anthology book because you could tell most of the stories between the four. Or get rid of those four books and use the material for an anthology. Plus DC is fixing to start a new Brave and the Bold, all five of these books will eventually turn to just filler stories.

[skally19]

this thread is so bogus. how can this hurt them?? and how can it make you drop 4 titles??

[jam37wcc]

Well I expect some more announcements about new ongoing, as well as limited series comics based on B/C list characters in the DCU once 52 starts coming to a close. So, no. I dont think DC has/is setting themselves up for a failure. The goal in 52 is to get more people interested in the DCU, as well as characters that might not have recieved their chance to shine without the aid of the 52 arc. I believe, so far, DC has been successful at this.

But those same books about B/C listers won't get the kind of sales that 52 is bringing in.

[jam37wcc]

this thread is so bogus. how can this hurt them?? and how can it make you drop 4 titles??

When 52 is over thats four books a month I won't be buying and four books a month that won't be in the top ten in sales anymore.

[The Joker]

But those same books about B/C listers won't get the kind of sales that 52 is bringing in.

Maybe (although a Question/Renee, and Black Adam title would sell I'm sure). But one thing about 52, is that it's a story that takes place inbetween IC, and OYL. So of course DC knew that the interest level on an arc like this would be immense. If another weekly book would be proposed after 52 is done and finished, I don't believe the interest level would be anywhere near as great as 52. And for several reasons.

[shaxper]

If they were smart, they'd look at the incredible success this weekly series about C-list characters had and attempt another weekly anthology about underused characters.

I think part of what makes 52 special is the belief that it is chronicling a particularly significant event that will eventually climax and end. I don't look at it as an ongoing series - what nutty adventures will occur in 52 this week? Instead, it's more of an unraveling of desired information - what happened prior to OYL and what's been changed in the DCU. If DC announces that they'll be following up the series with a weekly "53" series, I will most likely refrain from buying it. The impact of the series will have been diluted.

[skally19]

When 52 is over thats four books a month I won't be buying and four books a month that won't be in the top ten in sales anymore.

ahhhh i get it. when you says "titles", i think seperate books

[Magneto_X]

If they were smart, they'd look at the incredible success this weekly series about C-list characters had and attempt another weekly anthology about underused characters.

It would be good if 52 launched titles about their most "successful" protogonists in the anthology i.e. the Question, Renee Montoya (possibly either being a regular cast member in the Bat-line or relaunching Gotham Central), Black Adam etc.

[Shellhead]

It would be good if 52 launched titles about their most "successful" protogonists in the anthology i.e. the Question, Renee Montoya (possibly either being a regular cast member in the Bat-line or relaunching Gotham Central), Black Adam etc.

It wouldn't hurt to try. 52 could easily be a launching point for several new titles, including an Elongated Man series, or even a Booster Gold series. I think it would be fun if they even gave the Lex-men (catchier than Infinity, Inc. in my opinion) a monthly title after #52.

[Chango]

When 52 is over thats four books a month I won't be buying and four books a month that won't be in the top ten in sales anymore.

Thats four books a month YOU wont be buying. Why do you assume everyone else is like you? There are plenty of people buying numerous books that you dont.

Do you expect the highest grossing movie every summer? Do you need 3 blockbusters a year? Who cares, if its a good story then people will read it. But if you really want a major event after major event, "look to the skies"...more than likely something with the New Gods.

[jam37wcc]

Thats four books a month YOU wont be buying. Why do you assume everyone else is like you? There are plenty of people buying numerous books that you dont.

Do you expect the highest grossing movie every summer? Do you need 3 blockbusters a year? Who cares, if its a good story then people will read it. But if you really want a major event after major event, "look to the skies"...more than likely something with the New Gods.

I think you misunderstood me. When 52 ends that is four books a month of 52that I won't be buying because 52 will be over. So you will be like me unless you have some way of buying four issues a month of 52 after the series ends.

And I also don't expect a big event every year, I am only looking at this from a business point of view. If I were a company and one of my books was about to end and that takes four books out of the top ten in sales, what would you do to counteract that?

[jam37wcc]

Thats four books a month YOU wont be buying. Why do you assume everyone else is like you? There are plenty of people buying numerous books that you dont.

Also if you didn't misunderstand me, when 52 ends are you planning on replacing it with four other titles on your pull list?

[Chango]

Also if you didn't misunderstand me, when 52 ends are you planning on replacing it with four other titles on your pull list?

What four books were you buying BEFORE 52? What four books did you drop for 52? Ill wait another 29 weeks before worrying what Im going to buy, I can always walk into a comic shop and find more than 4 books to buy, and thats just in one visit.

The world will not end in 29 weeks, it might be crazy in 28 but you might be one happy customer in 30.

[Patriot07]

Also if you didn't misunderstand me, when 52 ends are you planning on replacing it with four other titles on your pull list?

I probably will. There are a lot of good series' out there than I can't read right now because of 52, I'll probably start picking them up after it ends. Nightwing is supposed to get a new writer soon and some interesting minis are lined up. And the new Wildstorm releases. There's always plenty to read.

[jam37wcc]

What four books were you buying BEFORE 52? What four books did you drop for 52? Ill wait another 29 weeks before worrying what Im going to buy, I can always walk into a comic shop and find more than 4 books to buy, and thats just in one visit.

The world will not end in 29 weeks, it might be crazy in 28 but you might be one happy customer in 30.

I didn't drop any books when 52 began and in fact I am buying about thirteen more titles a month than I was buying before 52 started, four of those thirteen being 52. So, when 52 does end I will have no problem not replacing it with something else, and I imagine that others will feel the same way I do and some won't but I don't think that the 100,000 that are buying each and every week are going to automatically start picking up four other titles just cause 52 ends.

[Shellhead]

Another thing about 52... it's showing a lot of different aspects of the DCU. For both new and old fans, that can potentially increase general enthusiasm for DC comics. I thought that this series was just going to focus on Booster Gold, Steel, Renee Montoya, the Question, Black Adam and Elongated Man, but we have seen a lot more characters than that, and there has been an ongoing subplot featuring Adam Strange, Starfire and Animal Man.

[Patriot07]

I didn't drop any books when 52 began and in fact I am buying about thirteen more titles a month than I was buying before 52 started, four of those thirteen being 52. So, when 52 does end I will have no problem not replacing it with something else, and I imagine that others will feel the same way I do and some won't but I don't think that the 100,000 that are buying each and every week are going to automatically start picking up four other titles just cause 52 ends.

Yes, but under that logic really, anytime a company puts out a big A-List book, they're setting up for failure. Because when that ends, not everyone who read it will replace it. The world of comics is ever changing, comics start and comics end. Equilibrium will be reached.

Plus, 52's major goal is to inspire intrest in the DCU as a whole, so new readers can fully appreciate the whole scale of the universe. I'd imagine there will be a whole lot of jumping on points right as 52 ends. As well as new series. There will be something for everyone. And in the end, I believe it will equal out.

[mattx110]

they also won't be publishing 4 books a month with multiple writers/artists involved, so they won't wind up losing too much money. other titles, and probably an attempt at a focus on JLA or something that has the ability to sell in high numbers might make up for 4 less books a month. plus, those question minis better come out :-)

i'd take a real detective comics with stories about ralph, the question, and idk who else in 7-10 page stories monthly or twice a month (they might not wanna push the 4 issues a month thing too far).

i'd also like them to maybe wait a few months after 52 and try a weekly challengers comic with all sorts of random wackyness with all sorts of pet-characters in cosmic mysteries with rotating writers and lax editors.

[Ontir]

I'm still buying 52; but I can't really say why. I find it incredibly boring, and very un-even. There just isn't much in there that is all that interesting.

[wes_rk]

even though when 52 is over, it would be 1 less comic book I buy each week (issue not title), DC would still have made tons of money out of it.

so, failure? I don't think so. I think once 52 is over, they will have at least 1 new book, Question/Montoya or some other team-up or character.

They sold well before 52, and once 52 is over, if anything, they'll sell the same or even more.

[StrikeForce Albert]

52 will be replaced by, at least, 4 books. Outside of the odd end 5th week nothing will change. 52 also sets up Grant Morrison's 4th World mini, please be an ongoing, I assume. So we'll just have to wait and see. I think it's real obvious we are getting a Question ongoing out of this.

[Babylon23]

For me, it depends on which books are spun out of 52. I'm a bigger fan od c-list characters, so 52 is currently showcasing some of my absolute favourites. I'll buy any series featuring the Question, Montoya, Elongated Man, Animal Man or Adam Strange, so theoretically, DC could have me buying more series post-52.

either way, I don't think DC is setting themselves up for a fall. If all else fails, I'm sure hey can just launch another Batman book to make up the sales.