Dooms Day questions

[drwho]

Wow I just read Hunters Prey and never knew the kryptonians created Dooms Day. Is this origin still valid? How did Dooms day get saved after being sent to the end of time?

[Hush Little Batman]

From Wikipedia:


The Doomsday Wars

Doomsday returned yet again in the miniseries The Doomsday Wars. In this series, Brainiac uses his technology to travel to the end of time to retrieve Doomsday in order to combine the beast's massive power with Brainiac's formidable intellect (this was later revealed to have taken place due to the timeline's reconstruction following the events of 'Zero Hour', when the former (at that time) Green Lantern Hal Jordan broke down creation and the heroes were forced to trigger their own Big Bang to stop him). Doomsday's will proved too strong to override completely with psionics, and he reacted too quickly for any chemical process to eliminate his simple mind, so Brainiac attempted to use a human host to genetically engineer a Doomsday body without the mind. He chooses to use Pete Ross and Lana Lang's newborn baby, born eight weeks premature and being transported by Superman to the best Natal Intensive Care Unit in the country. In the end, Superman thwarted Brainiac's plot by driving him out of Doomsday's body via the use of a telepathy-blocking 'psi-blocker'. He then lured Doomsday to the moon, where he placed Doomsday in a kind of stasis with four JLA teleporters; perpetually transporting between those four booths, Doomsday would never be more than 25% integrated, and thus unable to 'think' of a plan to escape.

Here's the full wiki entry on Doomsday (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_%28comics%29)

[marshal99]

read the follow-up to hunter/prey , Doomsday war where the Morrison JLA goes up against him. :D

[Guts/Batman]

I got the Superman/Doomsday Omnibus and I have to say, that was seriously funny stuff. DC just went wayyyyyyyyy too far trying to make this character out to be more than he should have been.

[Constantine Drakon]

Wow I just read Hunters Prey and never knew the kryptonians created Dooms Day. Is this origin still valid? How did Dooms day get saved after being sent to the end of time?


You still don't know that the Kryptonians created Doomsday. That origin is not still valid because it was never valid.

Look again. The Kryptonians didn't create Doomsday. A non Kryptonian scientist did, he just happened to pick Krypton for his lab.

[David Atkins]

The Kryptonians didn't create Doomsday. A non Kryptonian scientist did, he just happened to pick Krypton for his lab.

Truth. It was never even stated that Doomsday himself is Kryptonian-- he began as a baby of unspecified origins. I was always under the impression, after reading 'Hunter/Prey' for the first time back when it was first released, that Krypton in the era of Doomsday's birth was a completely hostile environment and possibly not populated aside from the monsters outside and Berton's lab assistants.

On one hand, I dislike Doomsday Kryptonian origins because it is obviously an act of a lazy writer who was intent on drawing things too closely together (much like the slacker who originally instituted a pre-Metropolis relationship between Superman and Luthor). On the other, I kind of like the idea that Doomsday, by being created on Krypton and subsequently wiping out most, if not all, of the hostile creatures on the surface, made it possible for Superman to exist in the first place.

[Carter Hall]

On one hand, I dislike Doomsday Kryptonian origins because it is obviously an act of a lazy writer who was intent on drawing things too closely together (much like the slacker who originally instituted a pre-Metropolis relationship between Superman and Luthor).

Actually, I thought that that was the Golden Age origin of the Superman/Luthor rivalry. Superboy fighting Lex Luthor in Smallville was the pre-Crisis origin, I thought.

[David Atkins]

Actually, I thought that that was the Golden Age origin of the Superman/Luthor rivalry. Superboy fighting Lex Luthor in Smallville was the pre-Crisis origin, I thought.

WHEN the idea was implemented is irrelevant to my view of it. Superman and Lex Luthor having a rivalry that dates back to their boyhood in Smallville is lazy writing, as is virtually every attempt to tie a new hero/villain into the story of his origins.

[riftt]

I read Hunter/Prey when it originally came out and really liked it. I've been contemplating picking up the doomsday omnibus - are the rest of the stories worth it? Or is H/P basically the highlight?

[Guts/Batman]

I read Hunter/Prey when it originally came out and really liked it. I've been contemplating picking up the doomsday omnibus - are the rest of the stories worth it?

If you want to laugh your ass off, yes it is worth it. I can't read any Doomsday story with a straight face anymore.

[Arvandor]

I got the Superman/Doomsday Omnibus and I have to say, that was seriously funny stuff. DC just went wayyyyyyyyy too far trying to make this character out to be more than he should have been.

I agree. Doomsday is a villain whose origins should NEVER have been specified. And certainly not like that. Cliched and stupid.