View Full Version : Does the Post-INFINITE CRISIS DCU feel that different from the Pre-INFI-CRISIS DCU?
Buried Alien
10-05-2006, 06:54 PM
Several months have passed since INFINITE CRISIS wrapped up, and now, the hardcover compilation is available. So far, does the Post-INFINITE CRISIS DCU feel that different from the Pre-INFINITE CRISIS DCU?
Although INFINITE CRISIS did catalyze several big changes for a number of characters, it still more or less feels like the Pre-INFINITE CRISIS DCU. Twenty years ago, the difference between the Post-COIE and the Pre-COIE DCU seemed more obvious and apparent...at least from my perspective.
In 1986, it really did feel like the DCU had been completely dismantled and rebuilt; in 2006, it feels adjusted, but not actually rebuilt.
Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)
Joe Acro
10-05-2006, 06:59 PM
I haven't noticed a significant change in the universe. I think this has largely to do with the lack of a knowledge of changes in the universe. It also has to do with everyone seemingly remembering the event as it happened. So, no, I don't think the universe is that much different.
Babylon23
10-05-2006, 07:53 PM
Post-IC isn't all that much different to pre-IC, but then, I don't think it was meant to be. There are the obvious changes to Wonder Woman's history, restoring her role in the JLA. There's also the restoration of Joe Chill as Batman's parent's killer. Unlike CoIE, though, the changes here have been minimal history-wise.
I think most of the changes we've seen have been more character driven, and features predominantly in the OYL titles, with Catwoman having a baby, the Titans completely changed, GA as mayor, Superman's new abilities, Batman's personality shift etc.
MythicBrawn
10-06-2006, 05:16 AM
Certainly. If you feel bringing back what came before, i.e. the Silver Age, is change.
Joe Rice
10-06-2006, 05:19 AM
Some minor details are different, but the books read exactly the same.
The Joker
10-07-2006, 07:36 PM
Not really.
I just feel as if IC was a decent attempt to adjust the DCU. But not really an attempt to rebuild the DCU like after COIE. Although the fallout of IC has brought about some very interesting stories that are a bit more character driven than say what we saw after COIE, I can't say I feel that the DCU in general is all that different than pre-IC.
Just a bit more Silver Age-ish. :)
Patriot07
10-07-2006, 07:41 PM
Yes, it feels different, but there isn't a lot that's changed. Superman more or less feels the same, as does Green Arrow and Lantern, but Batman has changed a lot (for the better) and The Flash too (for the worse).
Hush Little Batman
10-07-2006, 08:26 PM
Yes, it feels different, but there isn't a lot that's changed. Superman more or less feels the same, as does Green Arrow and Lantern, but Batman has changed a lot (for the better) and The Flash too (for the worse).
How has Batman changed?
carabas
10-08-2006, 02:05 AM
He's not as dark as pre-IC. Supposedly.
Although that is a bit of a false argument considering that, IMO, Batman only got really dark in the last two years as part of the build up to IC.
Bored at 3:00AM
10-08-2006, 04:10 AM
The Dan Dido DCU feels different from the DCU when Mike Carlin was in charge, but I wouldn't say there's really that much difference pre and post Infinite Crisis, except for the Superman, Batman & Wonder Woman books, where Dido has clearly spent some time reajusting.
The only real change is that much of the DCU has been revitalised, in part because we've got some great teams on books and in part because some of the current concepts are great.
I know that pre-IC I was reading hardly any DC, but now I'm reading a lot and happier for it.
jam37wcc
10-08-2006, 09:29 AM
To me the biggest difference is now DC sees the need to put out really good quality books from there to major franchises and putting some of the best writers and artist on them such as the Bat-Books and Superman books.
The Mirrorball Man
10-08-2006, 09:46 AM
I think Infinite Crisis had about as much impact on the DC universe as Zero Hour.
As far as I can tell, for the most part the changes occured in everyone's past without really changing their present. So all they really did is retcon a few people's backstory. That truthfully amounts to very little change (at least from what we can tell so far). But as someone else said, I don't think it was meant to be that different.
Though I will say that a few heroes have gone through some fairly big changes. Aquaman and Wonder Woman's current status quo is pretty different post IC.
Yes, it's different. The overall tone of the books seems to have been made more all ages. This is most evident in Wonder Woman. Back when Rucka was writing it, it was about Diana and the Greek Gods. It was literate and it wasn't for kids (they wouldn't know who Athena, Ares, et al were). Now it's just another superhero comic. Batman, pre-IC didn't really hang with Robin anymore. Now they're together almost all the time.
The only exception I know of is Hawkgirl, who literally appeared in her bra in every issue Howard Chaykin drew except one.
Yes, it's different. The overall tone of the books seems to have been made more all ages. This is most evident in Wonder Woman. Back when Rucka was writing it, it was about Diana and the Greek Gods. It was literate and it wasn't for kids (they wouldn't know who Athena, Ares, et al were). Now it's just another superhero comic. Batman, pre-IC didn't really hang with Robin anymore. Now they're together almost all the time.
The only exception I know of is Hawkgirl, who literally appeared in her bra in every issue Howard Chaykin drew except one.
Hmmm... mental note: start checking out Hawkgirl.
I think they did say the wanted to make the post IC DCU a bit lighter (which I guess translates to being more kid-friendly). I can't really tell the difference, but then again I never thought DCU was that dark to begin with (at least compared to Marvel).
Powerboy
10-08-2006, 03:44 PM
It doesn't feel all that different. It was just a "big event". It was dissappointing to some people and a relief to others that it really didn't make much difference. There are changes, yes, but they are hardly all that major. It certainly is not of the significance of the COIE.
Several months have passed since INFINITE CRISIS wrapped up, and now, the hardcover compilation is available. So far, does the Post-INFINITE CRISIS DCU feel that different from the Pre-INFINITE CRISIS DCU?
Although INFINITE CRISIS did catalyze several big changes for a number of characters, it still more or less feels like the Pre-INFINITE CRISIS DCU. Twenty years ago, the difference between the Post-COIE and the Pre-COIE DCU seemed more obvious and apparent...at least from my perspective.
In 1986, it really did feel like the DCU had been completely dismantled and rebuilt; in 2006, it feels adjusted, but not actually rebuilt.
Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)
Powerboy
10-08-2006, 03:47 PM
Certainly. If you feel bringing back what came before, i.e. the Silver Age, is change.
Personally, I'd say more Golden Age than Silver Age. Er, I haven't been reading Green Lantern. He isn't making big green boxing gloves, is he?
carabas
10-09-2006, 01:18 AM
I think that Infinite Crisis was always much more about revitilising DC, the company than it was about DC, the universe.
Sales on most books do seem to be well up from two years ago.
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