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Lonewolf36
10-03-2006, 01:53 PM
From mazingman728 on the DC Forums

Week 22, Day 1
Metropolis: Luthor is given information on Supernova’s appearance with Wondergirl in which he get’s upset over as the information is three weeks old. Mr. Strauss, the employee giving Luthor the information – claims that Supernova spotted Lexcorp’s surveillance equipment and used his “power of disintegration on Lexcorp’s cameras”. Strauss then shows Cassie calling Supernova Kon-El to prove who Supernova is. Luthor becomes more angered and fires Strauss for wasting Lexcorp’s recourses on bad information to “retrieve the deluded, mewlings of a pathetic love sick teenaged girl who misses her boyfriend”. Supernova is then shown floating outside of Luthor’s window in the same stance as Superman. Luthor takes a red marker and makes Superman’s symbol on the window to show who he believes Supernova to be ***this is the scene you see during Next 52 from last issue***and then orders some new metagene test run on himself, Luthor.

Week 22, Day 2
Bus going to Metropolis: A guy is hitting on a lady that want s to be left alone. A big Indian approaches the man in an effort to get him to leave the girl alone. The obnoxious man asks the Indian what he is going to do about it which ends up getting the obnoxious man thrown out of a bus window on the highway. ***on one of the overhead highway signs, there are directs for highway 52 “right lane must exit”. The back of the bus also shows an add “Silverblade returns 10.13.06***The bus comes into gate 52 where the Indian is let go by the police since the obnoxious guy has had a previous conviction of rape and that he did save the girl.

Week 22, Day 3
Metropolis: Lex is given the tests for the metagene and his results come back the same as last time, “negative compatibility for the therapy.

Week 22, Day 4
Metropolis…I assume: The Indian attends his fathers funeral. After the funeral the Indian, Jon, is taking with his grandfather whom tells Jon about the Manitou Stone which gives the chosen wearer extra strength, speed and power and the individual is called Super-Chief. Jon’s grandfather opens up a cabinet to reveal the stone and headgear ***this is the scene you see during Next 52 from last issue***and then asks Jon to do something for him.
Week 22, Night 4
Metropolis: Jon takes the stone and puts his grandfather out of his misery by suffocating him with a pillow. ***sorry Frank but yes another death. Maybe 52 is the number of dead characters by the end of the series***

Week 22, Day 5
Metropolis: Luthor is having an opening ceremony for the new “Lex Luthor School of International Business Studies and Policy”. During the party Jon Henry is watching things while under cover of hat and trench coat. He observes a man approach Luthor and starts yelling at him being a liar about the Everyman project being unlimited power. The man’s name is Ferry and he is escorted off of the premises by Luthor’s security. Jon follows Ferry outside to find out what was going on. It appears that Ferry had the therapy but Luthor turned off his power. Jon tells Ferry that he wants to hear his story and that he wants the world to listen too.

Dr. Magnus’: Magnus is talking to his brother David on the phone about Dr. Morrow disappearing and the two goons that showed up at his house. Magnus’ brother mentions SHADE and that it is an acronym. Magnus then packs Mercury up into a duffle bag on his way to leave his house. When Magnus get’s upstairs he is approached by a fake group of Metal Men made up of Iron, Lead and Platinum. Magnus turns on a super magnet that captures Iron, while Mercury leaves the duffle bag to go after Lead. Magnus then pulls out a vial and throws it at the fake Platinum ***the real Platinum’s head is seen downstairs in Magnus’ basement***which dissolves Platinum. Doc turns just before leaving the house to see Lead crushing Mercury. Once outside Doc looks up to see a huge robot and proclaims “I don’t want to be crazy again” in which the robot responds “Mad scientists only, Doctor Magnus” and fires an energy beam at Magnus’s house blowing it up. The huge robot is what you we silhouette on the cover with the Metal Men symbols.

Origin this week is Green Lantern by Mark Waid and Ivan Reis. Which Green Lantern you ask? Why Hal Jordan of course.

milly3cat
10-03-2006, 10:01 PM
Wasn't gold and platinum killed in justice league issue one ???

Jkid099
10-03-2006, 10:41 PM
Justice League of America #1 occurs AFTER the 52 series.

sly_kat
10-04-2006, 12:20 AM
im luving this book... but... super chief killin...another death... jeez... i dont get that, but another storyline included in here... and that ticker... is starting to throw us off hm... is it just stuff happening, but maybe not in the book... or what... communications to us?
~im beginning to think that wen someone mentioned that the whole big reveal of 52 is... showing the characters knowing their in a comic and that we effect their choices and lives.. hence the ticker communicating to us... ?

Smokeyjay
10-04-2006, 01:32 AM
It seems like a slow issue. Was hoping that it would follow up with the space adventure story or the Question storyline.

Paragon
10-04-2006, 02:05 AM
Time to go and watch ‘One flew over the cuckoo’s nest’ again

MrSuslov
10-04-2006, 04:39 PM
The Metal Men storyline was the only salvation for this snoozer of an issue. I'm looking forward to the return of the Marvels and the Question next ish.

Bloody Thumb
10-04-2006, 04:58 PM
Eh. That issue was just okay.

The Super Cheif story left me a little flat. I'm unclear if he killed Gramps to be a jerk or if he did it because that's what gramps asked.

I enjoyed Lex being crazy in the begining but the bit at the party was a little off. You would think that Luthor security would keep that sort of thing from happening.... Unless of coarse Lex wanted it to happen to toss Steel off the track of what was "really" happening. Kind of to let Steel know "Hey, i can F with your powers any time i want". Probably not though, just akward writting.

Like i said though, I loved Lex's Superman obsessed rantings in the begining.

The Metal Man story lines been interesting and i'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

Jack
10-04-2006, 05:09 PM
The Lex/Supernova scene was definitely the best bit of the book. Shame he's so very wrong, though.

The cover was clever. Magnus: Robot Hunted. Heh.

Jack Zodiac
10-04-2006, 05:11 PM
The Super Cheif story left me a little flat. I'm unclear if he killed Gramps to be a jerk or if he did it because that's what gramps asked.

I think it was pretty clear that Gramps was asking him to kill him.

On that note, "Super-Chief is back! Bwa hahaha!"

Good issue. Glad to see Magnus is back and that his story's just about to skyrocket. Mad scientist on the run? Why the hell couldn't DC think of these great ideas before the Crisis?

Jack Zodiac
10-04-2006, 05:20 PM
The cover was clever. Magnus: Robot Hunted. Heh.

Oh, and yes, the jokes were aplenty! First, the Magnus, Robot Hunter title, and then the Go Fastback bus company. Also, the bus had an ad for Silverblade on the back. It says "Silverblade Returns 10.13.06." So... Jonathan Lord might be making an appearance in 52 soon!

PBR
10-04-2006, 05:53 PM
Did the giant robot at then end look like a sentinal to anyone else?

Bloody Thumb
10-04-2006, 06:45 PM
I think it was pretty clear that Gramps was asking him to kill him.
?


I don't think it was clear. it was suggested, but definatly still murkey. He didn't look like a guy "forced to kill his Gramps". To me he looked almost Gleeful after the incident.

Jack Zodiac
10-04-2006, 07:04 PM
I don't think it was clear. it was suggested, but definatly still murkey. He didn't look like a guy "forced to kill his Gramps". To me he looked almost Gleeful after the incident.

"Now I want you to do something for me."

Yeah, that grimace on his face sure screamed "gleeful" to me.

Bloody Thumb
10-04-2006, 08:27 PM
Reread the Issue and the look was a lot more remorseful then it seemed when i first read the issue. I almost could have sworn I saw a smirk the first time. that's what i get for reading it quickley on the Pot. too much Info?

Jack Zodiac
10-04-2006, 09:20 PM
Not at all! I've read some of the greatest literature in the world sittin' on the can.

DoctorDoom
10-04-2006, 11:06 PM
Enjoyed this ish. And enjoyed the Lex/Supernova bit the best.

Bloody Thumb
10-05-2006, 05:01 AM
Not at all! I've read some of the greatest literature in the world sittin' on the can.



I have a wife and a nine year old daughter. Hideing out in the bathroom is the only good reading time i have left.

sly_kat
10-05-2006, 03:23 PM
So... we still dont know Supernova's real name? cause he states, 'they call me supernova..' and was dubbedit by the the daily star, but never gives his own name...

SlightlyMad
10-05-2006, 03:37 PM
"You asked for him! Say hello to Super-Chief..."

That's what it says on the cover scrawl.

So, who asked for him? Come on. Own up.

Beyond The Beyonder
10-05-2006, 04:37 PM
Super-Chief came out of nowhere, but I'm diggin' the character. The Manitou Stone. Groovy. I like that the change of focus we had this issue, too. I don't know anything about the Metal Man but I love the Magnus characterization. It'll be nice to get back to more familiar plotlines next issue but that's the cool thing about having a weekly series; we have time for these diversions.

DonC
10-05-2006, 04:39 PM
Did the giant robot at then end look like a sentinal to anyone else?


Yeah, it did.

This issue felt like filler to me. The entire Lex/Supernova story was worthless. We know Supernova isn't Superman, move on.

The Doc Magnus stuff was nice, though, in a Let's-crap-on-an-idea-we-thought-was-good-ten-years-ago kind of way. I mean, for once, they actually explained a retcon without saying Superboy Prime did it.

Who the hell is Super Chief? A (slightly) more politically correct version of Apache Chief?

garin
10-05-2006, 04:51 PM
I think it was pretty clear that Gramps was asking him to kill him.I didn't get that impression. In the panel where Super-Chief is smothering him, the grandfather is clutching at the hand administerng the pillow. It seemed like he was resisting to me.

DMike
10-05-2006, 05:50 PM
Who the hell is Super Chief? A (slightly) more politically correct version of Apache Chief?

No, Super-Chief's been around since 1961, way before Apache Chief. Plus, Super-Chief's never done the growing thing. He's a generic strongman type.

Besides, Manitou Raven's their more politically correct version of Apache Chief, complete with the "Inukchuk!"s.

Damo
10-05-2006, 09:00 PM
Enjoyed this ish. And enjoyed the Lex/Supernova bit the best.

Your tag features the words of a great philosopher, yes?

Slow Week.

Steel Bores Me To Tears. And that makes me very sad, because there's so much that could be done with him...

BoosterBronze
10-05-2006, 10:37 PM
I don't care much for the Metal Men, and this issue lacked Booster Gold's ressurection, so I'm going to have to say I was a bit disapointed.

Who was that dude with the drinks in the "Next week" pics?

Jack Zodiac
10-05-2006, 10:43 PM
I didn't get that impression. In the panel where Super-Chief is smothering him, the grandfather is clutching at the hand administerng the pillow. It seemed like he was resisting to me.

Alright.

Then why the set up line? "I want you to do something for me." Why the stone? What about them both being "saved?" Did grandpa ask Jon Standing Bear to make him a sandwich and get smothered instead? Pretty much everything in that scene makes more sense if gramps asked him to kill him.

Jack Zodiac
10-05-2006, 10:46 PM
Who was that dude with the drinks in the "Next week" pics?

Looked like Morrow to me. In a Hawaiian shirt and neckerchief...

Damo
10-05-2006, 10:56 PM
...Actually I can buy that scene.

"I want you to do something for me. I want you to make me a sandwich... like you used to."

"I can't stand seeing you like this!" *Smothers.*

Hey, makes more sense than Identity Crisis.

Fallman
10-05-2006, 11:28 PM
Luthor knows that Kon had Heat ray vision, and the audiance has seen him use X-ray vision, but has anyone seen him use telescopic vision?

Also, the obvious way to test who Supernova is is to set a trap and gas him. Superman wouldn't be affected, but Superboy still had to breath.

Lonewolf36
10-06-2006, 08:58 AM
Superboy confirmed he had developed Telescopic Vision in the Teen Titans Annual here is the page.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i212/angelicknight36/TelescopicVision.jpg

skally19
10-06-2006, 11:19 AM
...Actually I can buy that scene.

"I want you to do something for me. I want you to make me a sandwich... like you used to."

"I can't stand seeing you like this!" *Smothers.*

Hey, makes more sense than Identity Crisis.

ooooo..fell short on that one.

and i realized that the big robot had nothing to do with the guys in the suits. i need to read closer

Kent H
10-06-2006, 06:59 PM
I didn't get that impression. In the panel where Super-Chief is smothering him, the grandfather is clutching at the hand administerng the pillow. It seemed like he was resisting to me.

I'm not sure what I'd call it, reassurance, a last bit of human contact, or what, but it wasn't him struggling. There's absolutely no tension in his arm, which there would have to be if he were struggling.

Beyond The Beyonder
10-09-2006, 06:13 AM
I too feel it was clear that the grandfather asked to be suffocated.

Keep in mind also that 52 is chock full of literary references. This one draws on One Floew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, where "Chief" (yes, that's his name) suffocates McMurphy as a favor to him. At the same moment he declares that they can both be free (as McMurphy leaves his body and Chief leaves the institution).

Jack Zodiac
10-09-2006, 01:34 PM
It would've been hilarious if Jon Standing Bear found a random water fountain in his grandpa's apartment and chucked it out the window, then ran for it. :p

Kara Zor El
10-09-2006, 01:59 PM
Very clear that the grandfather asked to be suffocated. But even somebody who wants to die cannot override the bodies natural instinct to fight against smothering. So the grandfather would have still struggled, even though he wanted to die. That is why no human being can drown themselves simply by just putting their head underwater and have the option of taking it back out again. If you want to drown yourself you have to tie a boulder to your leg, or swim out to far to get back etc.

As for Supernova having the same stance as Superman. Well we can't ignore that. It isn't Kal-El. but is it an alternate Superman? Is it Kal-L. Everyones going on about Con-El being resurrected but what If Kal-L has? Now I know the powers are all wrong but could he be using Kryptonian tech or Alex Luthor tech?

Bloody Thumb
10-09-2006, 02:38 PM
I too feel it was clear that the grandfather asked to be suffocated.

Keep in mind also that 52 is chock full of literary references. This one draws on One Floew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, where "Chief" (yes, that's his name) suffocates McMurphy as a favor to him. At the same moment he declares that they can both be free (as McMurphy leaves his body and Chief leaves the institution).


Wow. How stupid do i feel. I've read that book three times in my life and seen the movie at least a dozen times and i completly missed that reference. I'm usually a lot better at pointing that sort of thing out.

SlightlyMad
10-09-2006, 04:22 PM
Wow. How stupid do i feel. I've read that book three times in my life and seen the movie at least a dozen times and i completly missed that reference. I'm usually a lot better at pointing that sort of thing out.

You're not the only one! :o
It's one of my all time favourites too; the movie, the book & I'll raise you a play!, (which was more faithful to the book i.e. the Chief tells the tale).
I thought wrong of Jon Standing Bear on a first read as well, but now see it as a mercy killing.

Paragon
10-10-2006, 02:02 AM
You're not the only one! :o
It's one of my all time favourites too; the movie, the book & I'll raise you a play!, (which was more faithful to the book i.e. the Chief tells the tale).
I thought wrong of Jon Standing Bear on a first read as well, but now see it as a mercy killing.


Check the 6th post in this thread. :)

In the movie, the chief was put into the asylum after he killed his father, because he could not stand to see what he had become.

Mulett
10-10-2006, 02:44 AM
I can't help but think Supernova's (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/SuperNova5215.jpg)powers are more like Superwoman's (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1b/SuperwomanKW.jpg) than any other current DC character.

I'm talking about the Kristin Wells Superwoman. Her powers included teleportation and telekinesis. Here's part of her Wikipedia write up:

Kristin became Superwoman, and, using some of the technology she had brought from the future which (conveniently enough) allowed her to pretend to have super powers (including flight, teleportation, empathy, precognition, and telekinesis), she disguised herself and helped Superman. She revealed the truth to Superman, then returned to the future to make the information public. Kristin realized she would have to periodically return to the 20th century to ensure that all the historical events Superwoman was part of were fulfilled.

Here's a note on Supernova's (apparant) abilities;

The exact nature of Supernova's powers was unclear as of his debut, but he has been shown to fly and emit powerfully bright flashes of light when performing superheroic acts. He can remove matter with energy beams coming from his eyes. It was not apparent if the matter is disintegrated or removed by other means. At one point, when asked what happened to an object he removed, he remarked "I sent it away." He also appears to teleport in bright flashes of light. He is able to sense and "remove" a survellance satellite trained on him from hundreds of miles away.

So maybe Supernova is someone from the future too.

NormanB
10-10-2006, 08:11 AM
As long as Supernova isn't a 110-lb. chick in "body armor," I'll be fine.

See also, New Avengers, Ronin Debacle.

Count Vertigo
10-15-2006, 09:01 AM
The back of the bus also shows an add “Silverblade returns 10.13.06***The bus comes into gate 52 where the Indian is let go by the police since the obnoxious guy has had a previous conviction of rape and that he did save the girl.

I wonder if they'll bring him back. Seeing as how Claw had a mini, why not one for Silverblade?

SpaceBooger
10-15-2006, 04:54 PM
As for Supernova having the same stance as Superman. Well we can't ignore that. It isn't Kal-El. but is it an alternate Superman? Is it Kal-L. Everyones going on about Con-El being resurrected but what If Kal-L has? Now I know the powers are all wrong but could he be using Kryptonian tech or Alex Luthor tech?

I keep thinking its one of those Superman robots from the fortress... No real reason to think that other than the stance. I know he still has them the issue where Supergirl googled herself there is one present.