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10-03-2006, 10:50 AM
IYO, who is or could be/has the potential to be the modern Julie Schwartz?
Detailed answers of why.
His biggest thing was helping to revive dead propertires... I'd say the best hopes for a modern Julie would be Geoff Johns (not that I always like his stuff) and Gail Simone.
But with less sexual harassment than Julie, at least in Geoff's case.
Jack Zodiac
10-03-2006, 02:47 PM
Grant Morrison.
Just like Julie was responsible for the Silver Age revival of Golden Age characters, Grant's been responsible for several characters and ideas being used at DC now. I also think Grant has the passion for good story telling that Julius did, and I hope he becomes editor in chief one day. He'd make a great overseer, er... editor. :p
Judd Winick shares his love of talking apes!
marshal99
10-04-2006, 05:44 AM
His biggest thing was helping to revive dead propertires... I'd say the best hopes for a modern Julie would be Geoff Johns (not that I always like his stuff) and Gail Simone.
But with less sexual harassment than Julie, at least in Geoff's case.
Geoff Jones is more like a modern day Roy Thomas. He is responsible for tying up all the loose ends of continuity especially for earth 2 characters like Roy used to do. Johns has done some good and some bad retcons , depending on how you view it.
jaguarshark
10-04-2006, 07:21 AM
Judd Winick shares his love of talking apes!
EVERYBODY shares a love of talking apes!
I agree that Geoff Johns is more similar to Roy Thomas, and I'm tempted to lean towards Morrison; but of course, they work in somewhat different areas, as Schwartz was an editor and Morrison a writer.
I'm going to take the easy way out and say that Schwartz was his own man, as are today's top talents, and comparisons like these are futile.
Although, if we look at Schwartz's record of revamping beloved characters... Tom DeFalco is (or rather was, 10-20 years ago) the modern Julie Schwartz!
Kid Omega
10-04-2006, 07:41 AM
EVERYBODY shares a love of talking apes!
I agree that Geoff Johns is more similar to Roy Thomas, and I'm tempted to lean towards Morrison; but of course, they work in somewhat different areas, as Schwartz was an editor and Morrison a writer.
Morrison actually has an editorial role at DC now, and many of the new concepts are from his brain.
It's gotta be GM- his influence is shaping the DCU in important ways, and has been for some time. His take on the JLA was not revolutionary, but completely re-energized what team books should be. ALL STAR SUPERMAN is the essential, absolute version of that character, and will define him more than any book since MAN OF STEEL.
SEVEN SOLDIERS showed what could be made of C-list characters, and we will see those characters again- they have been resucitated for a good while.
His input to 52 is clear, and really makes that book something to pick up. It could have just been a boring, continuity fill-in-the-blanks, but he has infused it with madness and ideas that make it genuinely entertaining (for the most part) on it's own terms.
I acn't think of another creative personality working as hard to revitalize the DCU.
jaguarshark
10-04-2006, 07:44 AM
Morrison actually has an editorial role at DC now, and many of the new concepts are from his brain.
It's gotta be GM- his influence is shaping the DCU in important ways, and has been for some time. His take on the JLA was not revolutionary, but completely re-energized what team books should be. ALL STAR SUPERMAN is the essential, absolute version of that character, and will define him more than any book since MAN OF STEEL.
SEVEN SOLDIERS showed what could be made of C-list characters, and we will see those characters again- they have been resucitated for a good while.
His input to 52 is clear, and really makes that book something to pick up. It could have just been a boring, continuity fill-in-the-blanks, but he has infused it with madness and ideas that make it genuinely entertaining (for the most part) on it's own terms.
I acn't think of another creative personality working as hard to revitalize the DCU.
Sure, I agree totally with that. But honestly, I just don't want to call Morrison the modern Julie Schwartz because I think it undersells Morrison.
Kid Omega
10-04-2006, 08:25 AM
Sure, I agree totally with that. But honestly, I just don't want to call Morrison the modern Julie Schwartz because I think it undersells Morrison.
Dually noted!
TheTen-EyedMan
10-04-2006, 10:02 AM
Sure, I agree totally with that. But honestly, I just don't want to call Morrison the modern Julie Schwartz because I think it undersells Morrison.
I don't want to be a naysayer but Julie did a hell of a lot more than just help create an entire age of comics. He was a publisher, an agent and a writer of his own works. Morrison is a comic writer.
There is no contest.
The closest you could get to that is maybe Brad Meltzer. But he's not a publisher or an agent.
There was only one Julius Schwartz. And I don't think you'll see anyone like him again.
Kid Omega
10-04-2006, 10:29 AM
I don't want to be a naysayer but Julie did a hell of a lot more than just help create an entire age of comics. He was a publisher, an agent and a writer of his own works. Morrison is a comic writer.
There is no contest.
The closest you could get to that is maybe Brad Meltzer. But he's not a publisher or an agent.
There was only one Julius Schwartz. And I don't think you'll see anyone like him again.
Morrison has done more than just write comics.
And even if the case was that he was only a comics writer, what he writes and puts out there is wildly important to the shape of the DCU.
Bored at 3:00AM
10-04-2006, 12:35 PM
I'd say Grant Morrison is the closest thing to Julie Shwartz DC has as a creative force. Whereas Geoff Johns is the love child of Roy Thomas & Marv Wolfman.
I suppose that'd make Mark Waid the new E.Nelson Bridwell and Jim Lee the new Joe Orlando, but I don't want to stretch this too far.
jaguarshark
10-04-2006, 09:01 PM
I don't want to be a naysayer but Julie did a hell of a lot more than just help create an entire age of comics. He was a publisher, an agent and a writer of his own works. Morrison is a comic writer.
There is no contest.
The closest you could get to that is maybe Brad Meltzer. But he's not a publisher or an agent.
There was only one Julius Schwartz. And I don't think you'll see anyone like him again.
Yeah, Julius was obviously an extremely important guy- probably as close to Stan and Jack as you can get, which in fairness, isn't all that close- but he was working with a bunch of really great writers, as well.
I just feel that Morrison is capable of a great deal more in his writing than Schwartz ever was (hardly an insult, we're talking about Morrison here) and so the rest becomes kind of irrelevant to me. Schwartz was a great manager, sure, but Morrison is a great performer.
Talking about the great man himself, I was hoping the special "DC Comics Presents" titles that were issued in tribute to him would be collected in a TPB.
No sign of it. *sigh*
hondobrode
10-07-2006, 04:29 PM
The most obvious to me is Didio. Morrison is more of a writer while Didio's comics writing has been extremely limited. His freshening and reimagining of concepts reminds me a lot of the vision and strong editorial leadership that Julie used to exercise.
Jack Zodiac
10-08-2006, 12:04 AM
I completely and totally disagree. Didio couldn't hold a candle to Julie. His lack of imagination concerning certain characters, for one thing, makes him almost the complete opposite of Schwartz. There's no way in hell Julie would just axe characters like Ted and Michael for effect or because they "don't fit their original archetype" anymore.
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