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BigBoss

09-29-2006, 08:34 PM

your right it's just I just got started with astonishing and the thought of joss wheadon and john c leaving it's like I mean who else can make complicated stories like the joss wheadon. unlees your the guy who made neon genesis evangelion then dont lay a finger on my astonishing.

heres for a better disscusion who do you guys want to be the new writer and artist?

Beast

09-29-2006, 08:36 PM

Other than Colossus' return, his storlines haven't really been all that much to gush about. And I don't see them as complicated either. In fact, Dangerous was one of the worst storylines I've read in the 21st Century.

Ryan K

09-29-2006, 08:39 PM

heres for a better disscusion who do you guys want to be the new writer and artist?

What Happens to Astonishing After... (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=137130&)

If Whedon leaves who should/will follow him (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=24980&)

Beast

09-29-2006, 08:40 PM

What Happens to Astonishing After... (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=137130&)

If Whedon leaves who should/will follow him (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=24980&)
Thanks Ryan Kirk, was going to look them up myself. Bravo. *Tosses a Twinkie*

Stagier

09-29-2006, 08:42 PM

i say Quesada for art. that would be pretty big.

Beast

09-29-2006, 08:56 PM

i say Quesada for art. that would be pretty big.
And slow as piss. It would be NYX all over again.

Atom_basher

09-29-2006, 08:59 PM

I personally love Joss' work on Astonishing, i bet if the stories were beast-centric we wouldnt read half of the complaints we do here on these boards :rolleyes:

;)

twilight

09-29-2006, 09:00 PM

It's Stephen King.

fishtaco

09-29-2006, 09:26 PM

Chuck Austen and Rob Liefeld.

Mitsaso

09-30-2006, 04:03 AM

I'm saying Pedro Almodovar as writer and Paolo Eleuteri Serpieri as artist!!

Serpieri's the man who created "Druuna".:D

http://www.fantascienza.com/magazine/imgbank/ARTICOLI/druuna.jpg

But I guess that would never happen, so BKV and Stuart Immonen would be a good and realistic choice :)

Beast

09-30-2006, 08:55 AM

Unfortunatly, BKV wants to work on smaller more personal things, ala Runaways.

Captain WOW

09-30-2006, 10:06 AM

It's Stephen King.

I actually like that idea, he would defintely write the X-Men in a new and very "different" manner. But yeah, realistically, can't see an arrangement like that working.

PanzerMega

09-30-2006, 10:40 AM

I actually like that idea, he would defintely write the X-Men in a new and very "different" manner.

I can see it now.... The X-Men vs. A Possessed Toaster Oven.

Hollowpoint_Ninja

10-02-2006, 06:53 PM

Kevin Smith and Joe Mad..... :evilsmile

j/k :D

annihilator

10-02-2006, 07:14 PM

Chuck Austen and Rob Liefeld.
Don't even joke about things like that.

Factor Three

10-02-2006, 08:02 PM

Factor Three will soon assume control of all the X-Men, astonishing or otherwise.

dreyson

10-02-2006, 08:21 PM

isn't it about time the new writer and artist is announced? isn't wheden leaving to do runaways?

Forefinger

10-02-2006, 09:40 PM

Factor Three will soon assume control of all the X-Men, astonishing or otherwise.
I follow the teachings of Factor Three. Instruct me oh great one.

Ryan K

10-02-2006, 09:58 PM

isn't it about time the new writer and artist is announced? isn't wheden leaving to do runaways?

He isn't 'leaving' to do Runaways. He's leaving with issue 24 but that was always the plan. And thats still 7 months away. Hell I think Morrison's run was actually over before we knew Whedon would be replacing him.

o1pickleboy

10-02-2006, 10:10 PM

Well if they listen to CBR it will be Peter david.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=99598

DjMichael691

10-03-2006, 01:19 AM

Kevin Smith and Joe Mad..... :evilsmile

j/k :D

I actually think that would be VERY COOL. Actually.

Beyond The Beyonder

10-03-2006, 03:42 AM

Brian K. Vaughan would be perfect. I think we should all write to Marvel and tell them. Vaughan's a fan of the books, he probably knows Alonso from Vertigo, and Whedon's going to take over his book so it would kinda be a natural trade.

Beyond him, I'm not sure who they'd look to. Since Carey is focusing on character interaction, and Brubaker's giving us an epic action book, it might be nice to see somebody whose writing is more high-concept, allegorical, so actually Greg Pak might be ideal. He's obviously interested in writing the X-Men, and he's also building a higher profile for himself lately, so they just might be willing to give it to him.

Zombienorthstar

10-03-2006, 03:55 AM

He isn't 'leaving' to do Runaways. He's leaving with issue 24 but that was always the plan. And thats still 7 months away. Hell I think Morrison's run was actually over before we knew Whedon would be replacing him.

Whedon didnt replace Morrison. Whedon launched a new title. Austen replaced Morrison.

Sentinel K

10-03-2006, 04:52 AM

Whedon didnt replace Morrison. Whedon launched a new title. Austen replaced Morrison.

Technically that's true but in reality Ryan is correct.

Astonishing pretty much picked up the batton from Morrisons New X-Men

Uncanny from X-treme (both CC), and X-Men from Uncanny (both Austen).

moebius

10-03-2006, 05:05 AM

Cancel the book and concentrate on telling the best possible stories in Uncanny and X-Men. If something comes up in a couple of years and a new "hot" writer wants to come in to tell some specific stories but can't meet a monthly deadline, relaunch it.

Or does that keep the quality of the books too high?

rwsmith

10-03-2006, 05:09 AM

I agree with Moebius. Then the other two writers would be free to use the Astonishing characters so they wouldn't have to fill out their rosters with villains and weak substitutes.

beachbum8994

10-03-2006, 07:29 AM

agree with Moebius. Then the other two writers would be free to use the Astonishing characters so they wouldn't have to fill out their rosters with villains and weak substitutes.

However, I will say that I love what Brubaker has done with a character like Warpath that was sitting on the side not being used by anyone. That is the advantage to not having them use the characters in Astonishing, you get the potential for these great stories using characters that haven't been used in a while and fallen by the wayside.

Omega Alpha

10-03-2006, 10:59 AM

However, I will say that I love what Brubaker has done with a character like Warpath that was sitting on the side not being used by anyone. That is the advantage to not having them use the characters in Astonishing, you get the potential for these great stories using characters that haven't been used in a while and fallen by the wayside.

Yeah, good post. And there's also characters like Darwin, who have plenty of potential because they were just created.

I think that Greg Pak would be a good choice. I liked Phoenix Endsong a lot and Planet Hulk is incredible. Or Carey could write too books. Since he loves Cyclops and Beast, seems to like Emma, and writes a good Wolverine, he could make it work.

thik_3rd

10-03-2006, 09:38 PM

it's scott lobdell with john romita jr. and jose ladronn on the covers. expect the announcement come january.

Erik B

10-03-2006, 09:45 PM

Since marvel seems to begoing after ppl who work hollywood i wish it would be Dave Hayter or something, the guy who wrote Xmen one and two and also played the voice for snake in the metal gear solid games. but that wont happen ans since xmen sucks a whole lot now im dropping them all come the end of Whedons run

Beyond The Beyonder

10-04-2006, 06:11 AM

Ooh, Carey writing two books, I hadn't even thought of that. That's brilliant!

jj9126

10-04-2006, 06:39 AM

Wasn't there a rumor the Jeph Loeb might be taking over the book? That's about as bad as Austin...

Beast

10-04-2006, 06:39 AM

Ooh, Carey writing two books, I hadn't even thought of that. That's brilliant!
No thanks. I'd rather have a different feel for each of the books that a different writer brings.

Besides, Carey has enough on his plate right now.

DjMichael691

10-04-2006, 07:28 AM

it's scott lobdell with john romita jr. and jose ladronn on the covers. expect the announcement come january.

Please tell me that's a joke !!!:confused:

rwsmith

10-04-2006, 07:37 AM

it's scott lobdell with john romita jr. and jose ladronn on the covers. expect the announcement come january.

That's B.S., as JRJR will have his hands full with 'World War Hulk' around that time.

And Pak wouldn't be a bad choice, just so long as he stays away from the Phoenix during his entire run. They'd have to pair him up with a dynamite artist, though, as his name is not going to sell books like a Grant Morrison or Joss Whedon. Someone like McNiven would be great IMO, or perhaps Joe Mad once he's done with his 6-issue stint on the Ultimates?

kate-pryde

10-04-2006, 08:46 AM

it's scott lobdell with john romita jr. and jose ladronn on the covers. expect the announcement come january.

I'd be thrilled if that was true.

I really liked Lobdell's run, and he was at his best when writing smaller character driven stories, rather than some of the big event cross-over type stories. Issues like Uncanny 303 or Excalibur 71 with Kitty & Peter and Rachel & Jean, and Rachel & Nathan were excellent. If Scott was writing a book like Astonishing, he could concentrate on stories like those, or do something like Adventures of C&P.

But I haven't been a fan of JR, Jr's work lately. He was at his best back when he was Hunk of the Month.

thik_3rd

10-04-2006, 02:13 PM

it will be delayed until after world war hulk to accomodate jr. jr's schedule (though he is capable of doing two books at once).

Omega Alpha

10-04-2006, 04:34 PM

I really hope it's a sick joke. Lobdell had his moments, but overall he's no Whedon or Morrison. He was the idiot who had the idea of Onslaught being what it was, not Xavier's dark side only because he didn't want him to look that bad. And he writes a HORRIBLE Colossus.

Deus ex Chris

10-04-2006, 04:38 PM

it's scott lobdell with john romita jr. and jose ladronn on the covers. expect the announcement come january.
Oh, god. I didn't know people actually liked Lobdell's X-Men. You learn something new everday.

thik_3rd

10-04-2006, 05:20 PM

he wrote the definitive colossus.

Darkwave

10-04-2006, 05:57 PM

Oh, god. I didn't know people actually liked Lobdell's X-Men. You learn something new everday.

Yup, some of us really, really, really did. To each his or her own.

Lobdell's run on Uncanny circa UXM 300 is one of the runs that I keep re-reading and re-reading (along with Claremont, from about 180-Mutant Massacre, Whedon, and Simonson's run on X-Factor). I would love to see Lobdell on an X-Book again.

rwsmith

10-04-2006, 06:03 PM

it will be delayed until after world war hulk to accomodate jr. jr's schedule (though he is capable of doing two books at once).

And you know this how?

Wild Card13

10-04-2006, 06:13 PM

I heard somewhere that Warren Ellis was being considered.

Just thought I'd throw that in there.

Deus ex Chris

10-04-2006, 06:47 PM

Yup, some of us really, really, really did. To each his or her own.
Um, yeah, I know. I was being sardonic. It was a comment on the very notion of Scott Lobdell working on the X-Men again.

Mariah

10-04-2006, 06:54 PM

I heard somewhere that Warren Ellis was being considered.

Just thought I'd throw that in there.
*slits wrists* oh, wait, it's just a rumor...um...can someone get me some band aids?

kate-pryde

10-04-2006, 07:50 PM

Whedon was asked in an interview who he would like to replace him, and he suggested Warren Ellis.

I believe Ellis has said that he wasn't interested in doing it since he's concentrating on his own books, but I suppose he could change his mind.

I'm not too keen on Ellis taking over since I'd hate to see what he'd do to Kitty and Peter after Pryde/Wisdom.

goldenarms

10-04-2006, 08:30 PM

I think that they should cancel the book or give it to Peter David. Whedons run has been a collossal bore.

Lobdell was terrible. It was guys like him the helped me to stop collecting the X-books way back when.

xakko

10-04-2006, 08:31 PM

Colossus should get an injunction against Ellis ever coming within 100 miles of writing him again.

Kitty too. She has to be creeped out by him.

Mariah

10-04-2006, 09:30 PM

Colossus should get an injunction against Ellis ever coming within 100 miles of writing him again.

Kitty too. She has to be creeped out by him.
It's the beard and funky teeth. It's a natural reaction.

Omega Alpha

10-04-2006, 09:33 PM

I think that they should cancel the book or give it to Peter David.

After reading X-factor #9, i would say HELL NO! And i like him, a lot.

thik_3rd

10-04-2006, 09:33 PM

Lobdell was terrible. It was guys like him the helped me to stop collecting the X-books way back when.
my x-goons say lobdell.

Daithi

10-05-2006, 04:12 AM

Wouldn't Pak be perfect though? Considering he seems interested in mining GM's New X-Men and Joss Whedon likes to do the same.

The Sword Is Drawn

10-05-2006, 06:18 AM

Colossus should get an injunction against Ellis ever coming within 100 miles of writing him again.

Kitty too. She has to be creeped out by him.

And yet Ellis is the only writer to have really developed either character going forward since the start of the 90s.

Just because he chose to to give Kitty closure on a childhood relationship you happened to care a lot for, doesn't mean it was bad writing.

Ellis Excalibur was like a shining oasis in a desert full of bland on the X-Books at the time.

It's the beard and funky teeth. It's a natural reaction.

Lol. I'm even a fan, and he scares the heck outta me.

But others are right. While Joss hinted earlier in the year that Ellis was the kind of writer he wanted to succeed him, Ellis made it clear he wasn't interesyted. With several more expletives.

The Sword Is Drawn

10-05-2006, 06:28 AM

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, this title is doomed to become the third X-book.

Until Marvel announce somebody big - and in all honesty I don't believe they can find somebody right now, nothing will convince me that this title isn't going to slide.

It stood out head and shoulders above Milligan's X-Men and Claremont while he tried to clean up Uncanny. But now? When you've got two seriously taleted writers on those two book, producing seriously epic feeling stories in the same numer of issues it takes for Whedon to stretch a two parter concept, and twice as fast, astonishing just pales in comparison. By the time Astonishing peters out it's going to need something pretty bloody amazing to get it going again.

And I just don't know what that'll be.

Marvel announce Whedon moving to Runaways when the book is done, but not yet who will be going the other way. It may be 7 months away, but on a title they seem to think is this big it needs a decision this early.

I wouldn't expect a big name, or a quality name. Expect somebody like Jeph Loeb, Marvel seem to rate him right now. I don't. But there ya go.

Deus ex Chris

10-05-2006, 10:06 AM

Wouldn't Pak be perfect though? Considering he seems interested in mining GM's New X-Men and Joss Whedon likes to do the same.
I'd love for Pak to get it.

We R. Venom

10-05-2006, 11:41 AM

What if Marvel has been saving Milligan for another go round with the X-men??? This might be it folks. Peter Milligan: writier of Astonishing X-men!

Nevets F

10-05-2006, 11:52 AM

Thik_3rd.....you are totally making stuff up. OR someone is totally lying to you.

Suiciety

10-05-2006, 01:19 PM

I hear Claremont, Byrne and Austen are gonna replace Whedon. Oh, waitaminute...:D

Canemacar

10-05-2006, 03:19 PM

What if Marvel has been saving Milligan for another go round with the X-men??? This might be it folks. Peter Milligan: writier of Astonishing X-men!

....

*loads gun*

Loestal

10-05-2006, 04:06 PM

What if Marvel has been saving Milligan for another go round with the X-men??? This might be it folks. Peter Milligan: writier of Astonishing X-men!

Sweet Christmas......such polar opposites, one being very good other being very bad, may very well split me head in twain.

Frank

10-09-2006, 08:57 PM

I think it would be best if the next creative team would be good and solid but not too revolutionnary. Just to resolve plotlines and so forth and not alienate the readers that have followed these characters and that style. Do that for six issues. I think from what I've seen from the pics, the guy that will be drawing the MAX Foolkiller series would be a good choice in that Cassaday realistic style. And then you could have a good writer but who won't reinvent the wheel like Paul Jenkins at the helm. When that creative team is finished, pull al the stops and get somebody great for a year or two. Like say...Bryan Talbot and Michael Mignola.

Hollowpoint_Ninja

10-18-2006, 04:25 PM

I actually think that would be VERY COOL. Actually.

Oh I love both their work but neither are known for releasing books on time... :(

Red Lotus

10-18-2006, 04:31 PM

What if Marvel has been saving Milligan for another go round with the X-men??? This might be it folks. Peter Milligan: writier of Astonishing X-men!

That is not funny. :evilangry

rwsmith

10-19-2006, 10:00 AM

I like the idea of Greg Pak with Marc Silvestri, though Marc is fairly slow these days. Perhaps with Dave Finch doing fill-ins (since his style is very similar to Silvestri's and he's not that fast either).

If not them, then how about Steve McNiven? The guy is awesome, and at this point he is a huge draw as an artist coming off of Civil War.