am i the only one not feeling the x-books lately?

[Callisto]

back in the day i use to run to my comic store i was so excited to pick up my weekly x-men issues!! now, half the time i walk into my comic store and look at the x-men section i find nothing that appeals to me! the only book i seem mildly interested is new x-men but the same excitement i had while reading x-books like x-treme and uncanny and exiles is pretty much gone.:( am i the only one who feels this way?

[Young Avenger]

What you need is a good dose of X-Factor! That should make you feel better.

[Beast]

am i the only one not feeling the x-books lately?
Pretty much, yep. But maybe you should try something outside the X-Books for a change?

[jsg2295]

I get excited about Astonishing, but not the way I did in the glory days when I couldnt wait to read what happened in an episode.
Around the time of Nicieza was the last time I was really excited about the X-Men.

[Young Avenger]

Pretty much, yep.

So the fish guy doesn't count anymore?

[Beast]

What you need is a good dose of X-Factor! That should make you feel better.
Heh. That's the one X-Book I read that I'm not feeling. Dull, dull, dull.

[Beast]

So the fish guy doesn't count anymore?
Did he ever really count? Seriously, he won't even try Young Avengers. :p

[drwho]

Just take 3 months off the books. I did that for all the dc books and the other day I bought some that I liked so much I went and bought all the issues I missed and am rested for dc again.

[Beast]

Just take 3 months off the books. I did that for all the dc books and the other day I bought some that I liked so much I went and bought all the issues I missed and am rested for dc again.
But DC is terrible in general. :D

[drwho]

The last time I was even remotely hyped on the x-book was around the time Gambit was a traitor storyline. Now I just buy to buy, but the new writers are definite improvements.

[Nstar83]

I am completely uninterested in Astonishing.The book was at its best in the first 6 issue arc,i miss the humor its goten way to dark.Right now I think all the X-books are in a very dark tone right now so i'm not enjoying them to much.New X-Men which was probably my last pick has become my first its gotten really good with a small an centered cast of characters.

[Nstar83]

delete post ((double)) opps

[Kid Quick Foots]

back in the day i use to run to my comic store i was so excited to pick up my weekly x-men issues!! now, half the time i walk into my comic store and look at the x-men section i find nothing that appeals to me! the only book i seem mildly interested is new x-men but the same excitement i had while reading x-books like x-treme and uncanny and exiles is pretty much gone.:( am i the only one who feels this way?

i know how you feel. i lost interest shortly after the first movie came out and they put the team in those god awful leather outfits with that ugly neon yellow "x" ewww, that and this "secondary mutation" garbage totally lost me. Sad to say but the AOA was the pinnacle for me, its been down hill every since IMHO

[BigBoss]

back in the day i use to run to my comic store i was so excited to pick up my weekly x-men issues!! now, half the time i walk into my comic store and look at the x-men section i find nothing that appeals to me! the only book i seem mildly interested is new x-men but the same excitement i had while reading x-books like x-treme and uncanny and exiles is pretty much gone.:( am i the only one who feels this way?

try astonishing. it's my favorit comic seris period.

[Beast]

I am completely uninterested in Astonishing.The book was at its best in the first 6 issue arc,i miss the humor its goten way to dark.Right now I think all the X-books are in a very dark tone right now so i'm not enjoying them to much.New X-Men which was probably my last pick has become my first its gotten really good with a small an centered cast of characters.
So Astonishing and the other books are too dark, but New X-Men is fine? Huhbuhwhat? :confused:

Are we thinking of the same book. The one that has played out like a snuff film for months?

[Ryan K]

At the moment I absolutely love Astonishing X-Men and X-Factor. And I think that the other two core books are fairly solid.

But I'm really burned out on a lot of the death and destruction that's going around in all the x-books. And I'm completely dissatisfied with a lot of the editor-mandated storylines like Decimation, the Sentinels, and the 198 stuff.

[Young Avenger]

Heh. That's the one X-Book I read that I'm not feeling. Dull, dull, dull.

I find it to be the more interesting X-book Marvel puts on the shelf. I love the mystery PAD has setup and his cliffhangers are completely unexpected. X-Factor is the one X-book I can say that isn't predictable.


Did he ever really count? Seriously, he won't even try Young Avengers. :p

Not most of the time. And he needs to be beheaded for not trying Young Avengers.

[Hippy-san]

Honestly, x-books are Marvel's "little" sub-culture and can easily be avoided, but that doesn't mean you're avoiding bad titles. I'll admit the quality of x-books fluctuates more often than I'd like, but there seems to be at least one or two good titles at a time to pick up.
Right now I recommend Astonishing, Uncanny and for a tasty, quasi-old-school feel, Ultimate X-men. I've been meaning to look into X-factor because of PAD and I've heard good things from Carey's X-men, but frankly I think I've got a good dose for now.

[Beast]

Avoid Kirkman's Ultimate X-Men right now. It's terrible.

[That JonoGuy]

Pretty much, yep. But maybe you should try something outside the X-Books for a change?

Yeah. It'll make you appreciate them all the more. :D

[Flameworthy]

Avoid Kirkman's Ultimate X-Men right now. It's terrible.

Agreed. That book has gone down hill since Vaughan left. The book use to be sooo good too.

Meh, the only X-books I'm picking right now are Uncanny X-Men (minus the Vulcan issues), and New Excalibur. I'll admit that NEX is finally starting to get good with Tieri writing it. He's actually making me care about the book. I'm just afraid that once he leaves CC will just ruin it again for me.:(

[Beast]

Meh, the only X-books I'm picking right now are Uncanny X-Men (minus the Vulcan issues), and New Excalibur. I'll admit that NEX is finally starting to get good with Tieri writing it. He's actually making me care about the book. I'm just afraid that once he leaves CC will just ruin it again for me.:(
I feel the opposite. Tieri's NEX has been pretty meh so far. Especially the Apocalypse Jr. issue. And while he claims to be trying to write Wisdom as more of an arsehole, he's coming off as more of a complete joke.

[Ryan K]

I think the big problem with Ultimate X-Men at the moment is that they've been treading water over there ever since Bendis's run, waiting for Bryan Singer to start. Its been almost 3 years since they announced Singer was gonna write 12 issues.

[fishtaco]

There isn't a single Marvel book that's interesting me right now, except for Cable and Deadpool. I still buy a lot of Marvel's newly released products, but only because they are reprints/collected reprints of classic material. I think the X-books at this time are total crap, and I don't like the general direction that the MU is heading in, I don't like the big events, I don't like the Hollywood writers and killing off so many characters while bringing back so many characters that should always remain dead, plus the amount of retconning and continuity wanking.

[X-Factor]

The wide variety of books allows me to rarely ever not feel the X-Books at all. As a fan, I really only need to really like one book to still appreciate the X-Men, and currently I have more than enough.

While I wish I could like all of them, books like the titles currently possessing the new adjective will see change someday with new people behind the pen(cil) and they very well may take the place of the good books should the creators I like on other books are removed.

I find this a fortunate aspect of the criticized abundant amount of titles.

While I find some titles not reaching levels of expected quality, there are a few I actually feel repelled by (Ultimate X-Men, Civil War: X-Men, New X-Men, and New Excalibur). But as I said, I am happy enough with the ones I do like.

[Flameworthy]

I feel the opposite. Tieri's NEX has been pretty meh so far. Especially the Apocalypse Jr. issue. And while he claims to be trying to write Wisdom as more of an arsehole, he's coming off as more of a complete joke.

To be fair, I only feel that way because of issue #11. Maybe because the team was actually starring in their own book, instead of just guest starring. That one issue however, has been 100 times better that all the first 10 issues combined.

[mybotisgone]

Let's face it. The only ay to fix most of the X-Book is to do a complete reboot of all the titles. The only X-title is Astonishing. X-Factor is nice but it seems that Marvel want the writer to find out what's going on in the other comics on is own. He didn't know that Scott and that other person turned Iron Man down. Marvel could a lest tell him that. I blam Marvel for that not Peter David.:(

But anyways most of the writers can't come out with a good enuf of a story because of that mess left behind by both House of M and Decimation. What ever the X-men had is almost gone.

[Beast]

Let's face it. The only ay to fix most of the X-Book is to do a complete reboot of all the titles. The only X-title is Astonishing. X-Factor is nice but it seems that Marvel want the writer to find out what's going on in the other comics on is own. He didn't know that Scott and that other person turned Iron Man down. Marvel could a lest tell him that. I blam Marvel for that not Peter David.:(

But anyways most of the writers can't come out with a good enuf of a story because of that mess left behind by both House of M and Decimation. What ever the X-men had is almost gone.
We do not need a Crisis. And eh, I find the other books better than Astonishing right now. House of M and Decimation were an attempt to recapture what left the X-Books back in the 90's. Did it work perfectly? No. But the books since Decimation have been a lot better than they were before.

[jen]

But anyways most of the writers can't come out with a good enuf of a story because of that mess left behind by both House of M and Decimation. What ever the X-men had is almost gone.

Well to each his/her own... I think Mike Carey's X-Men is worth the $2.99 each month. Some really great stuff from the Eisner nominated Lucifer writer! This guy is the real thing. Also love X-Factor. I just got caught up on the run, and I love it. Very good stuff there. :D

[mybotisgone]

We do not need a Crisis. House of M and Decimation were an attempt to recapture what left the X-Books back in the 90's. Did it work perfectly? No. But the books since Decimation have been a lot better than they were before.
I know we don't need a X-Crisis. But right now all the X-titles or a mess.:( All i'm saying is that if Marvel do somthing to fix this then an X-Crisis will be the only way to fix this.

[Beast]

I know we don't need a X-Crisis. But right now all the X-titles or a mess.:( All i'm saying is that if Marvel do somthing to fix this then an X-Crisis will be the only way to fix this.
How are they a mess? Strong stories, getting away from the continuity clusterfudge that is the mansion, and interesting team line-ups. Marvel already did something to fix things, it was called Decimation.

[Wind-Breaker]

I'm really digging the x-titles currently. Heck I'm one of the hand-full of people that enjoy Excalibur ;) Astonishing is pretty good (although the current arch can be confusing at times), Uncanny gots a Deadly Crisis related arc (though the story is kinda running slow), and X-Men has a entertianing cast.

Although this coming from a complete X-whore, so take it for what its worth :p

[mybotisgone]

How are they a mess? Strong stories, getting away from the continuity clusterfudge that is the mansion, and interesting team line-ups. Marvel already did something to fix things, it was called Decimation.
I'm done talking to you about this. you clearly don't see that the writers of the X-titles are having problems with coming up with so called "Strong stories" because of both House of M and Decimation. The thing is that most of the characters are gone of depowered and when a good writer comes along to write a X-story in a X-men title they can't use most of the characters that they wanted to use. And that is where the mess lies in.:( Now I don't blam any of the writers for this I just blame thoes two story ideas.

House of M was good at frist and I understand getting rid of Grant Morrison's overrun of Mutants. But Marvel aimed to high and got rid of most of the good characters to. Characters that would have helped in making good story for the X-titles. And Decimation did not help House of M and I don't know where you got that crap from. If anything Decimation made House of M worst not better. Decimation killed off more characters then House of M did depowering.:eek:

[Young Avenger]

I know we don't need a X-Crisis. But right now all the X-titles or a mess.:( All i'm saying is that if Marvel do somthing to fix this then an X-Crisis will be the only way to fix this.

What mess? There's no X-title at the moment that's screwed up. Everything makes sense and nothing is being screwed with

[Beast]

I'm done talking to you about this. you clearly don't see that the writers of the X-titles are having problems with coming up with so called "Strong stories" because of both House of M and Decimation. The thing is that most of the characters are gone of depowered and when a good writer comes along to write a X-story in a X-men title they can't use most of the characters that they wanted to use. And that is where the mess lies in.:( Now I don't blam any of the writers for this I just blame thoes two story ideas.

House of M was good at frist and I understand getting rid of Grant Morrison's overrun of Mutants. But Marvel aimed to high and got rid of most of the good characters to. Characters that would have helped in making good story for the X-titles. And Decimation did not help House of M and I don't know where you got that crap from. If anything Decimation made House of M worst not better. Decimation killed off more characters then House of M did depowering.:eek:
Are you giving up because you don't have a leg to stand on? Because I just don't see it, because it's not true. Everyone has gotten to use the characters they want for their teams except for Mike Carey. He originally planned to have Psylocke instead of Cable. Psylocke was already given to CC for use in Exiles, because he wasn't finished telling her story in Uncanny and Marvel felt that he deserved to keep her for that book. And other than the case with Storm, all the characters were up for use if they weren't being used elsewhere. Show some evidence where writers weren't allowed to use the characters that they wanted. Because it's not true.

What good characters did they get rid of with Decimation? Seriously. There were a few pretty popular characters that got depowered, but none of the 'Main Stars' got depowered or permanently removed from the books. And yes, Decimation and House of M did help the X-Books. It dialed back the mutant numbers and made things tough on the mutants again. It was a necessary change to get the books back into what they were before the awful 90's. And where are you getting that Decimation killed off tons of characters? It didn't. It depowered characters and sent them to limbo. Writers afterwards are the ones who killed a bunch of characters.

[Beast]

What mess? There's no X-title at the moment that's screwed up. Everything makes sense and nothing is being screwed with
Yeah, I seriously don't get his point here.

[Young Avenger]

I'm done talking to you about this. you clearly don't see that the writers of the X-titles are having problems with coming up with so called "Strong stories" because of both House of M and Decimation. The thing is that most of the characters are gone of depowered and when a good writer comes along to write a X-story in a X-men title they can't use most of the characters that they wanted to use. And that is where the mess lies in.:( Now I don't blam any of the writers for this I just blame thoes two story ideas.

House of M was good at frist and I understand getting rid of Grant Morrison's overrun of Mutants. But Marvel aimed to high and got rid of most of the good characters to. Characters that would have helped in making good story for the X-titles. And Decimation did not help House of M and I don't know where you got that crap from. If anything Decimation made House of M worst not better. Decimation killed off more characters then House of M did depowering.:eek:

A writer should welcome the challenge. I think House of M is a good thing. It makes being a mutant special again. Also, depowering a character won't prevent a writer from using a character from his/her story. Look at Rictor, his depowering lead to be one of the stars on X-Factor. New X-Men writers Craig Kyle and Chris Yost has said in an interview that they find David more interesting being depowered. So no, the depowering doesn't hurt a writer's story. If anything, it gives them the chance to make them more interesting.

[d newton]

What good characters did they get rid of with Decimation? Seriously.
Blob. Chamber. Jubilee. Mirage/Moonstar. Need I go on? :D

[Beast]

Blob. Chamber. Jubilee. Mirage/Moonstar. Need I go on? :D
Considering noone was using them before, it's not really getting rid of them.

And they're all alive and can be brought back if someone had a good idea for them.

And we've seen Chamber and Jubilee both in recent months. New Excalibur and Wolverine: Origins.

[Frodo-X]

Plus there are apparently big plans for Jubilee, as referenced in the last two New Joe Fridays.

[Beast]

Plus there are apparently big plans for Jubilee, as referenced in the last two New Joe Fridays.
Exactly. Getting depowered may be the best thing to have ever happened to her.

[jsg2295]

I am completely uninterested in Astonishing.The book was at its best in the first 6 issue arc,i miss the humor its goten way to dark.Right now I think all the X-books are in a very dark tone right now so i'm not enjoying them to much.New X-Men which was probably my last pick has become my first its gotten really good with a small an centered cast of characters.
You must like the funny light tone of mutants getting blown up in buses.

[Frodo-X]

You must like the funny light tone of mutants getting blown up in buses.

That is the funniest stuff ever! They just don't make 'em like that anymore. Now the best they can do is to have a can of beer snap someone out of a mental hold. The hilarity subsides. :(

[jsg2295]

In all honesty to what mybotisgon is writing..if a writer thought that a person who was formerly a mutant was important enough to come back...they would make that character come back. Whether by Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, etc.
Its the new role I could possibly see for Magneto...he is still infused with all those powers he received from Avengers#18.
He could somehow give back the powers to each mutant who lost theirs.
He could become a savior to all mutants who lost their powers, making him an even greater hero/villian to mankind.

[Frodo-X]

In all honesty to what mybotisgon is writing..if a writer thought that a person who was formerly a mutant was important enough to come back...they would make that character come back. Whether by Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, etc.
Its the new role I could possibly see for Magneto...he is still infused with all those powers he received from Avengers#18.
He could somehow give back the powers to each mutant who lost theirs.
He could become a savior to all mutants who lost their powers, making him an even greater hero/villian to mankind.

Oh, yeah sure. A comic book will just ignore or undo something for the sake of a new story.:rolleyes:

You're talkin' crazy.

Next you'll tell me they've done this before and even have a special word for it or something, right?

[jsg2295]

Oh, yeah sure. A comic book will just ignore or undo something for the sake of a new story.:rolleyes:

You're talkin' crazy.

Next you'll tell me they've done this before and even have a special word for it or something, right?
Dont push my buttons Frodo or I will put a hex on the Tigers and make them lose to the Royals...oops too late.

[Frodo-X]

For my response to your insults, see the Cres.

[Babylon23]

I'm one of the people not really feeling the books at the moment. They're not bad, but I'm not really getting any OMG style reactions to single issues. I've dropped most of the x-books because I think I might get a better payoff reading them as trades. This is especially true for Uncanny, which is moving at a pace that doesn't hold my interest on a month to month basis.

Having said that, I still buy X-Factor and NEX, and the latest few issues of Astonishing have finally piqued my interest.

[Gene M.]

I'm done talking to you about this. you clearly don't see that the writers of the X-titles are having problems with coming up with so called "Strong stories" because of both House of M and Decimation. The thing is that most of the characters are gone of depowered and when a good writer comes along to write a X-story in a X-men title they can't use most of the characters that they wanted to use. And that is where the mess lies in.:( Now I don't blam any of the writers for this I just blame thoes two story ideas.

House of M was good at frist and I understand getting rid of Grant Morrison's overrun of Mutants. But Marvel aimed to high and got rid of most of the good characters to. Characters that would have helped in making good story for the X-titles. And Decimation did not help House of M and I don't know where you got that crap from. If anything Decimation made House of M worst not better. Decimation killed off more characters then House of M did depowering.:eek:

No.

Basis.

In.

Fact.

Whatsoever.

[Jake V]

I was feeling X-Men comics just the other day.

Not a big fan of the glossy paper.

[X-Factor]

Are you giving up because you don't have a leg to stand on? Because I just don't see it, because it's not true. Everyone has gotten to use the characters they want for their teams except for Mike Carey. He originally planned to have Psylocke instead of Cable. Psylocke was already given to CC for use in Exiles, because he wasn't finished telling her story in Uncanny and Marvel felt that he deserved to keep her for that book. And other than the case with Storm, all the characters were up for use if they weren't being used elsewhere. Show some evidence where writers weren't allowed to use the characters that they wanted. Because it's not true.

What good characters did they get rid of with Decimation? Seriously. There were a few pretty popular characters that got depowered, but none of the 'Main Stars' got depowered or permanently removed from the books. And yes, Decimation and House of M did help the X-Books. It dialed back the mutant numbers and made things tough on the mutants again. It was a necessary change to get the books back into what they were before the awful 90's. [ ... ]

I think I may see what mybotisgone is saying. I think the mass depowering prevents future writers (because it is an inevitability we must face, there will be a ReLoad once again) from getting the wide choice in characters to use. It is really easy to equate depowering to killing because in many ways they no longer fit the bill of a mutant in the mutant titles.

What good characters were ridden from Decimation? Good is subjective, regardless of who is popular or not. I do like the effect of Decimation to the mutant community, but I feel a lot of it was executed poorly and characters were essentially lost, Terrigen Mists and En Sabah Nur be damned.

Thank goodness not to Decimation, but to the new good writers who have taken over since then.

[Jake V]

I think I may see what mybotisgone is saying. I think the mass depowering prevents future writers (because it is an inevitability we must face, there will be a ReLoad once again) from getting the wide choice in characters to use. It is really easy to equate depowering to killing because in many ways they no longer fit the bill of a mutant in the mutant titles.

What good characters were ridden from Decimation? Good is subjective, regardless of who is popular or not. I do like the effect of Decimation to the mutant community, but I feel a lot of it was executed poorly and characters were essentially lost, Terrigen Mists and En Sabah Nur be damned.

Thank goodness not to Decimation, but to the new good writers who have taken over since then.
What characters, exactly? Are the X-books really going to suffer due to a lack of powered Blob stories? Are we to lament the lack of Phantazia tales?

Seriously. I hear this crap all the time about how they got rid of so many good mutants, and no one has mentioned a single one they wish they could still read about. And even if one was named, do they command a fanbase of more than a dozen people? Probably not.

[Syzygy]

Right now I think all the X-books are in a very dark tone right now so i'm not enjoying them to much.New X-Men which was probably my last pick has become my first its gotten really good with a small an centered cast of characters.

????

You don't like the dark tone of the current X-books, but New X-Men is your first pick?

Anyway, I think Astonishing is just spectacular right now. And yes, New X-Men is exciting...but you've got to admit, it's also the X-King of Dark

Peace,
Syzygy

[mybotisgone]

I think I may see what mybotisgone is saying. I think the mass depowering prevents future writers (because it is an inevitability we must face, there will be a ReLoad once again) from getting the wide choice in characters to use. It is really easy to equate depowering to killing because in many ways they no longer fit the bill of a mutant in the mutant titles.

What good characters were ridden from Decimation? Good is subjective, regardless of who is popular or not. I do like the effect of Decimation to the mutant community, but I feel a lot of it was executed poorly and characters were essentially lost, Terrigen Mists and En Sabah Nur be damned.

Thank goodness not to Decimation, but to the new good writers who have taken over since then. Thank you for saying what I've been trying to say. And I do hope the new writers do a good jod.

[d newton]

Considering no one was using them before, it's not really getting rid of them.


Exactly. Getting depowered may be the best thing to have ever happened to her.
I don't see why they had to be depowered just because no one was using them! :(

[Brian Cronin]

Naturally, there is no offense intended here, but come on, there's soooooooooo many places to discuss this topic.

There is never a need for a "What I think about the X-Books" thread.

-Brian