View Full Version : Is Mary Jane... <SPOILERS>
MythicBrawn
09-28-2006, 04:30 AM
I'm not sure if this is an actual spoiler but I added the tag just in case.
Does anybody think that MJ is Spider-Woman? I was thinking that maybe what we're seeing with MJ, Kaine and 6-armed spidey was a flashback. When Peter encounters Spider-Woman (possibly MJ), she had already been changed. I was looking at the timing and thinking could it be possible? Granted, anything is possible in comics, but is it plausible? Had enough time passed between MJ's abduction, Peter finding out and going to her usual hideaway? Plus, how would Spider-Woman know to go there anyway? Let me know your thoughts.
Messiah Complex
09-28-2006, 04:38 AM
Yeah, I got a feeling they might be going that way. But I think its a little more likely that it might be an altered Peter clone or maybe an unnamed female who was injected with Parker's DNA. But yeah, MJ is probably going to be some sort of superhero. We've seen a few references to her almost being bit by the Spider, her saying "I was almost Spider-Man." The decompressed nature of the series helps with that since we get 100 issues covering less than a year. It allows Bendis to drop hints and then just leave them sitting there so we forget and are surprised when the revelations hit, but you can really go back and see the set up for it from the very beginning. Such a well written book. My vote for Best...Spider-man...ever.
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ultimatespyder20
09-28-2006, 01:35 PM
Yeah, I think the same thing. I bet MJ has already had the super powers and maybe "Kaine" is sending her out to do "something." And maybe she can't remember when this persona takes over.
Alec
Locue
09-28-2006, 01:50 PM
Oh, I'd send her out to "things" and then just wipe her memories clean, hur hur hur (weird, evil, pedophiliac laughter).
It's a possibility she's Spider-Woman, but I don't think so. She'd have to dye her hair real quick and get a costume, you know. Even I can't pull stuff like that in such short notice. Hats off to MJ if that's the way Bendis plays her.
Red Lotus
09-29-2006, 09:41 AM
I don't think so. I think Spider-woman is female clone of Peter. Maybe for some reason its easier to make a stable clone that is a woman.
antithesis09
09-30-2006, 06:14 PM
i don't think its mj.. if it was, i think she's be freaking out and not going around in costume (unless there was some kind of mind control and she dyed her hair).
i think spiderwoman is echo (kidding!)
Arilou
09-30-2006, 06:57 PM
There are all sorts of interesting ways this could go.
Personally I think one of Bendis' main problems is that he's great at setting up good plots, and then either forgets about them or wraps them up before they can be explored particularly well.
milly3cat
10-07-2006, 07:38 AM
I don't think so. I think Spider-woman is female clone of Peter. Maybe for some reason its easier to make a stable clone that is a woman.
You mean like Wolverine and X-23 .. :eek: ..:eek: ..:eek:
Psylocked
10-07-2006, 11:02 AM
You mean like Wolverine and X-23 .. :eek: ..:eek: ..:eek:
I dont think that is like wolverine and x-23.
I think in more that is a man with long hair and talks like a woman.(fine...its a woman) But..U KNOW WUT I DONT THINK ITS MJ I THINK ITS A CLONE OF MJ. because that was the time that she was in the Lab with the Peter Zombie. *ahem* *crying* Wasnt my fault
gliderpilotgirl
10-07-2006, 11:36 AM
she talks exactly like Peter, and she has Peter's hair, only longer. Owing to the fact that she's on the cover with the 3 other clones, I'm going to say she's the female clone. The clones are all seem to have their own special "they messed with me this way" thing. Spider-woman is female, Kaine is scarred, Tarantula has six arms, and the Scorpion has a tail hooked into his spine.
Frizey
10-07-2006, 12:38 PM
and the Scorpion has a tail hooked into his spine.
And is also completely insane.
gliderpilotgirl
10-07-2006, 04:19 PM
yes, he is, and so is Kaine clearly..Kaine is not as nuts as Scorpion, he is more "get in my way with MJ and pay" crazy ( scarier crazy because he knows what he is doing ). We don't know about the Tarantula or Spider-woman, they appear to be more sane than the real Peter at the moment!
megabyte01
10-07-2006, 05:03 PM
yes, he is, and so is Kaine clearly..Kaine is not as nuts as Scorpion, he is more "get in my way with MJ and pay" crazy ( scarier crazy because he knows what he is doing ). We don't know about the Tarantula or Spider-woman, they appear to be more sane than the real Peter at the moment!
Dude, they know everything that is going on behind the scenes on the clone saga, so they aren't supprised by anything. Just how many crazy things have happened to Peter in the clone saga? He (might have) lost his new girlfriend, he fought a clone-with-a-tail version of himself, found out that MJ had disapeared (though we know she was kidnapped), fought a girl version of himself, saw his other best friend Gwen return from the dead (remember peter remarked that he was losing his mind when he saw 'Gwen'), he gave away his secret to his aunt May, he has been reunited with his long lost father, his house get surrounded by Fury and an army of spider-slayer robots, then Gwen turns out to be some kind of carnage clone and his aunt just had a heart attack.
I don't think ANYONE would have a grasp on their sanity after all that! (and i'm losing mine thinking about what will happen next)
gliderpilotgirl
10-07-2006, 05:31 PM
Dude, they know everything that is going on behind the scenes on the clone saga, so they aren't supprised by anything. Just how many crazy things have happened to Peter in the clone saga? He (might have) lost his new girlfriend, he fought a clone-with-a-tail version of himself, found out that MJ had disapeared (though we know she was kidnapped), fought a girl version of himself, saw his other best friend Gwen return from the dead (remember peter remarked that he was losing his mind when he saw 'Gwen'), he gave away his secret to his aunt May, he has been reunited with his long lost father, his house get surrounded by Fury and an army of spider-slayer robots, then Gwen turns out to be some kind of carnage clone and his aunt just had a heart attack.
I don't think ANYONE would have a grasp on their sanity after all that! (and i'm losing mine thinking about what will happen next)
*chuckle*
I never said there is anything wrong with Peter's lack of sanity at the moment. In fact it's understandable...seriously, Peter is going to get his heart broken in like two ways if this arc goes bad..he may lose his "Dad" and MJ too.
P.S. check the name, I am a dud-ette. ;)
Chris S.
10-08-2006, 06:44 PM
I don't think that MJ is Spider-woman, or at least not the one we already saw. I think she could become her own spider-women though. Personally I hope this isn't the case. I would rather her have unique powers if powers at all. Truly though I would prefer her to have no powers.
I have said this before, but I like the separation between peters personal life and his super hero. That is why I don't care for Kittie, and most likely won't be interested in a sup'd MJ. I hope Bendis doesn't make a "mistake".....
milly3cat
10-09-2006, 07:16 AM
Bendis does like the spiderwoman character, so it is possible he would make the M.J. clone to be the ultimate universe version of her.
wow i clearly haven't read any USM recently....kaine is now is usm?! i thought they were staying awa from the clone saga i.e scarlet spider?! can anyone show me a picture of him please? i would be most greatful!
gliderpilotgirl
10-09-2006, 08:48 AM
pretty sure there is a pic of him on Wikipedia under Kaine, there is one for the Tarantula under Tarantula...
Chris S.
10-09-2006, 09:08 AM
pretty sure there is a pic of him on Wikipedia under Kaine, there is one for the Tarantula under Tarantula...
Everyone seems to refer to wikipedia like they are definitive. I really don't think it is fair to say who any of these characters are until Bendis comes out and says it. He could really head a different direction with it, and I really hope he does....
I want to know what all the clones were created for. The so called "tarantula" even says something to the effect that "we weren't created for this." What does that mean?
Also do people think that the MJ we saw in the issue was a clone? This would make sense, and would get rid of the idea she has powers. Maybe someone grabbed her to protect her and "Kaine" grabbed a replacement.
Also just another thought: Could Richard be behind all the clones? I mean he was able to clone Gwen in some form or another. He said he was working with stem cells. Could he not be responsible for all of this. That would be a great twist.
megabyte01
10-09-2006, 09:20 AM
Also just another thought: Could Richard be behind all the clones? I mean he was able to clone Gwen in some form or another. He said he was working with stem cells. Could he not be responsible for all of this. That would be a great twist.
Of course Richard parker is behind all this! haven't you ever heard of "Luke, I Am Your Tedious, Overused Plot Device"? The rule says, "If there is any chance whatsoever that major villain X could be the male lead's father, then it will turn out that major villain X is the male lead's father". If Richard created a clone of Carnage, he can't be playing for the good guys, no matter what he says.
gliderpilotgirl
10-09-2006, 10:57 AM
Also do people think that the MJ we saw in the issue was a clone? This would make sense, and would get rid of the idea she has powers. Maybe someone grabbed her to protect her and "Kaine" grabbed a replacement.
It actually makes sense, and would explain her drastic change in attitude in the Morbius arc. She went from being all "I hate this and I'm hugely angry at you" (understandably so, she has huge reason to be angry with Peter ) to all friendly all of a sudden. This could be a "back door" to return things to normal for MJ in case something bad happens. ( Or a cop-out )
Why do some people have problems with MJ getting powers? Sure it breaks the status quo. That's what USM is for. I for one, am tired of seeing her get her heart broken b/c she didn't have the good fortune to be born with an X-gene, or some superpower. Seeing a solution to this "I can't be with you " problem would be awesome.
Chris S.
10-09-2006, 01:33 PM
Why do some people have problems with MJ getting powers? Sure it breaks the status quo. That's what USM is for. I for one, am tired of seeing her get her heart broken b/c she didn't have the good fortune to be born with an X-gene, or some superpower. Seeing a solution to this "I can't be with you " problem would be awesome.
Read my previous post for an explanation on why I don't want MJ to get powers.
I also don't think she has really gotten her heart broken all that much. I mean the last brake up was her doing. This one was surely Peter's doing, but do to her actions. As you pointed out earlier in this thread you are a girl so you prob. relate to MJ on a higher level then me, but I think Peter has gotten his heart broken more then MJ. You almost seem to suggest it is Peter's fault, but I really don't think it is.
gliderpilotgirl
10-09-2006, 02:29 PM
ok...there is nothing wrong with the seperation between Peter's life and his superhero life. Some part of me gets irked though, that MJ should always have to be the damsel in distress. She deserves better than that.
And, I can guarantee you that MJ got hurt worse. I have said it before, when you talk about getting married someday( back in Cats and Kings ) with a girl, than break up with her and hook up with someone else two weeks later, you will rip her heart in half. When she saw Kitty and Peter together in 87 for the first time, she likely thought he was cheating on her with Kitty. That really does a number on a girl's self esteem too.
No, the break-up was caused in a great part by MJ's inability to listen to him, and to tell him the truth about the past. I still think Peter has had it easier though, because he's had Kitty to lean on. Though I think he is realizing now, that he really isn't over MJ.
Chris S.
10-09-2006, 04:06 PM
ok...there is nothing wrong with the seperation between Peter's life and his superhero life. Some part of me gets irked though, that MJ should always have to be the damsel in distress. She deserves better than that.
O.k. I agree on most of your post, especially part above. MJ should never be the damsel in distress. It takes away from her character, and in USM she had started to become one. In 616 she has always been a very strong independent women (look at recent events in SSM).
The part about the quickness in getting with Kittie was very true. I hadn't thought about it that way, I see why you say it was peter who hurt her. I think a lot of this is what I don't like about his relationship with her as well, it was so quick. I like Kittie less and less the more we see of her.
I wouldn't say Peter has had it easier though. I mean because of his relationship the whole deadpool incident occurred. She got in a fight with him about the Morbius thing. About the only good thing Kittie has done is fight with Peter that very little bit she did. I hear she will play a part in the Clone Saga though.
I think Peter needs a whole new women in his life. Nothing to do with MJ or super heroes. That is what I always liked about Gwen was that opportunity. Bendis needs to bring back some relationship into Peter's life because without MJ we have seen less of Peter and more of Spider-man. Spider-man needs to be a two way street.
gliderpilotgirl
10-09-2006, 05:26 PM
About taking away from MJ's character: She has shown some very strong character moments, ( the last issue of Carnage, she really channeled Uncle Ben) I think when she "grows up" in this comics, she'll be lots like 616 MJ with her strength and independance.
That's the funny thing about Kitty, everyone was so wild about her and Peter's relationship, but she's wearing out her welcome fast. And I have no doubt about Peter hurting. I know he must miss MJ, I mean, he obviously cares enough about her to talk to her after Deadpool. You were saying about the Peter/Spider-man ratio being off, I heartily agree. Spider-man is more than just Spider-man, he's Peter Parker too. The problem with the Kitty relationship is, because she is a superheroine, we see more of Peter as Spider-man, because that is what they have in common. They may have more in common, but we haven't seen it. Because the superhero thing is the basis of their relationship, as long as he is with her, we are going to be seeing lots of Team-ups, and less Peter Parker.
As much as I like the idea of Peter being monogamous and loyal to MJ alone, he is 16. Dating others is a part of his life. ( Though I like to think MJ will always be first in his heart )
Chris S.
10-09-2006, 11:27 PM
O.K. totally agree. Now look at your opinion about Kittie and Peter's relationship and apply it to a sup'd MJ. That is the problem with MJ getting powers.
gliderpilotgirl
10-10-2006, 12:29 PM
O.K. totally agree. Now look at your opinion about Kittie and Peter's relationship and apply it to a sup'd MJ. That is the problem with MJ getting powers.
Ok..fair enough. I guess a big part of the appeal of Spider-man is he is normal guy under the mask. And a normal guy would love a normal girl. I see your point.
I think my opinion is being colored by my desire to see Kitty out of the picture, and my fear that MJ is going to become "an obstacle" to their relationship, to be overcome. Again, she deserves better than that.
Ok here's a question: As a guy, I know you guys aren't big on discussing feelings and such, but from your perspective..how is Peter feeling about this?
Does he still loves MJ or has he moved on? How does he really feel about Kitty?
I can try to get inside his head, but because I think like a woman, I am limited.
Effect
10-10-2006, 12:54 PM
I agree that when MJ saw Peter and Kitty she was hurting. I did feel sorry for her but at the same time I got over that quickly. One very important fact between Peter and MJ is that she actually has friends. Peter only had MJ and Harry. Harry got turned into a goblin and Harry had to watch him get gunned down by Shield's Hulk capture team. Then he breaks up with MJ cause he want's her safe and well cause she didn't listen to him to well and just wasn't honest. Let me also say that I'm still pretty annoyed about that whole MJ and Harry relationship. The one where she didn't even bother to tell Peter that she had dated his best and mainly only friend beside her before hooking up with him. That's something pretty big to just let slip your mind
For that reason her stressing out over Kitty gets canceled to a degree about Peter finding out about her and Harry and the way he did. Still MJ has friends to be around. Peter has no one really anymore save Kitty and even that is stress. Especially with Gwen being dead and all the dead that surrounds. I don't think we really want to get into to big of a debate on who has suffered more cause Peter has MJ beat, even if you factor in her father troubles.
I think part of why Kitty is wearing out her welcome is cause she can't be used all the time. She's a main player in UXM, if she was actually traded to USM for a few years I think the dynamic between her and Peter and other USM cast members could be done a LOT better as she could show up more and more changes could be done with the character to make her grow.
I don't want MJ to get powers cause I really think it would be a step down for the character. I like that was introduced as "brainy jane" and want to see more of that. I want her to pretty much be the brains of the operation for Peter, catching the things he misses and giving good insist and being there to generally help. I don't want her in the actual action unless it can't be helped. Not becaue I wouldn't want to read about it but because I think keeping her out of the action gives her a unique point of view of the situation. We need that outside voice. Peter himself already gives us the inside opinion and view. Peter needs his Lois Lane (save the needing to be saved all the time) not a Supergirl.
Which actually is why I like the first annual so much cause it was Peter Parker and Kitty Pryde, not Spider-man and Shadowcat. Now we are getting to much Spidy/Shadowcat and not enough of what made the whole thing work is Kitty and Peter. At least that's how I've seen it.
gliderpilotgirl
10-10-2006, 01:34 PM
I agree that when MJ saw Peter and Kitty she was hurting. I did feel sorry for her but at the same time I got over that quickly. One very important fact between Peter and MJ is that she actually has friends. Peter only had MJ and Harry. Harry got turned into a goblin and Harry had to watch him get gunned down by Shield's Hulk capture team. Then he breaks up with MJ cause he want's her safe and well cause she didn't listen to him to well and just wasn't honest. Let me also say that I'm still pretty annoyed about that whole MJ and Harry relationship. The one where she didn't even bother to tell Peter that she had dated his best and mainly only friend beside her before hooking up with him. That's something pretty big to just let slip your mind
Hmm..good post..waitasec..don't you post over at SHH under the same name? anyways..I was annoyed by the Hobgoblin thing too. Though based on her earlier appearances with Harry, It did seem a bit out of character. And there is no question about it, she SHOULD have told him. Hopefully she'll learn from this experience and grow..she did seem to realize in Dumped and later on her mistake.
For that reason her stressing out over Kitty gets canceled to a degree about Peter finding out about her and Harry and the way he did. Still MJ has friends to be around. Peter has no one really anymore save Kitty and even that is stress. Especially with Gwen being dead and all the dead that surrounds. I don't think we really want to get into to big of a debate on who has suffered more cause Peter has MJ beat, even if you factor in her father troubles.
Okay..overall, Peter beats her for amount of suffering, with his parents dead and Ben dead and Gwen..hand down.
In a relationship sense I still think she's been hurting more, because she's chosen to be alone because she wants Peter. Sure she has friends, but anyone that's ever had heartbreak would agree friends can't help you with that.
I think part of why Kitty is wearing out her welcome is cause she can't be used all the time. She's a main player in UXM, if she was actually traded to USM for a few years I think the dynamic between her and Peter and other USM cast members could be done a LOT better as she could show up more and more changes could be done with the character to make her grow.
I wonder how Bendis and Kirkman do it..what happens if Kirkman decides he wants Kitty single again, and Bendis wants to keep her with Peter? Kitty belongs in UXM primarily, so that's bound to cause problems between the writers and the books.
I don't want MJ to get powers cause I really think it would be a step down for the character. I like that was introduced as "brainy jane" and want to see more of that. I want her to pretty much be the brains of the operation for Peter, catching the things he misses and giving good insist and being there to generally help. I don't want her in the actual action unless it can't be helped. Not becaue I wouldn't want to read about it but because I think keeping her out of the action gives her a unique point of view of the situation. We need that outside voice. Peter himself already gives us the inside opinion and view. Peter needs his Lois Lane (save the needing to be saved all the time) not a Supergirl.
I miss MJ being smart too. I remember in Cats and Kings when Peter was sulking b/c that politician was running him down, and MJ pointed out about people pay politicians, so look there. We need to see more of that.
Which actually is why I like the first annual so much cause it was Peter Parker and Kitty Pryde, not Spider-man and Shadowcat. Now we are getting to much Spidy/Shadowcat and not enough of what made the whole thing work is Kitty and Peter. At least that's how I've seen it.
In all likelihood, b/c of her high profile-ness, we may not see that Peter/Kitty dynamic again.
The Foreigner
10-10-2006, 03:05 PM
pretty sure there is a pic of him on Wikipedia under Kaine, there is one for the Tarantula under Tarantula...
The info on Wikipedia can be provided by anyone. Their guess is as good as mine-- But there is no proof that the scarred clone is "Ultimate Kaine" or anyone else for that matter.
gliderpilotgirl
10-10-2006, 03:29 PM
The info on Wikipedia can be provided by anyone. Their guess is as good as mine-- But there is no proof that the scarred clone is "Ultimate Kaine" or anyone else for that matter.
Perfectly true. Based on the speculation around the internet, it is our best guess though, based on what we know from the 616.
megabyte01
10-10-2006, 11:40 PM
In all likelihood, b/c of her high profile-ness, we may not see that Peter/Kitty dynamic again.
don't count it out just yet. remember that this is clone saga: anything could happen, and already has!
consider what happened in the last episode: Nick Fury has evaculated the neiborhood and surrounded Peter's house with a small army of robots. if that doesn't attract the kind of attention a secret-identity-protecting superhero doesn't want, i don't know what will. it's possble (but i doubt it) that peter's identity will become public post clone saga. Part of the reason the press gobled up the romance between spidey and shadowcat is because no one knows who spider-man is. if he had a public identity, the press wouldn't look twice. he'd be safe to date kitty pride, unless of course MJ survives the clone saga.
i'll just be honest about it: the one thing nessecary for the peter/kitty relationship to continue is if mj is permantly taken out of the picture, through death or hideous mutation. the reason their relationship is on the rocks right know is because peter went to reconcile with mj, something a jealous kitty can't stand after what happened with her ex. while the conversation in the mall between peter and mj hints at a reconciliation, the summary of the past events in the back of #100 says otherwise. the summary says vary clearly that kitty is peter's new girlfriend, and mj is his ex-girlfriend, even in the section where the two go to make up at the mall. if the summary won't even hint at a reconciliation, i doubt there will be one. only time will tell.
gliderpilotgirl
10-11-2006, 09:41 AM
I'll just be honest about it: the one thing nessecary for the peter/kitty relationship to continue is if mj is permantly taken out of the picture, through death or hideous mutation. the reason their relationship is on the rocks right know is because peter went to reconcile with mj, something a jealous kitty can't stand after what happened with her ex. while the conversation in the mall between peter and mj hints at a reconciliation, the summary of the past events in the back of #100 says otherwise. the summary says vary clearly that kitty is peter's new girlfriend, and mj is his ex-girlfriend, even in the section where the two go to make up at the mall. if the summary won't even hint at a reconciliation, i doubt there will be one. only time will tell.
Ok..about the secret ID becoming public...NO!!! I think they would learn from the firestorm going on in the 616, and keep his ID secret somehow. I agree with you, that the likelihood of it is decreased though.
Ok..About MJ being taken out of the picture. I agree. The only way Kitty and Peter are going to survive is if MJ is gone. However, I do not see that happening. MJ is a key player and absolutely core to this book. If they remove her, they remove the "heart and soul" behind Ultimate Spider-man.
The book would be a shadow of it's former self. Did you read the Wizard interview? Bendis talks lots about MJ. He says I quote: "realize that as much as Kitty is a cool girlfriend, there is nothing that can replace what the two of them have. No-one is like MJ." Bendis of course could be screwing with us, and have a modern day "Death of Gwen Stacy" planned, to rip our hearts out, but I don't see it happening.
As a personal note..did anyone else get annoyed when Kitty got mad when Peter talked to MJ? MJ has been in this book since day one, Kitty has no business trying to shut her out of Peter's life. That's what been irritating me of late, is how the awesomeness we saw in the early USM and the supporting cast, has all but ceased to exist in the last year. :(
Effect
10-11-2006, 09:56 AM
Yeah I do post over on SHH by the same name :).
I didn't take that as her trying to shut MJ out of Peter's life. Just that she was upset that Peter went to her for comfort and help when she, his current girlfriend, was already there and willing to help him. I honstly wouldn't be surprised if she hoped in one of the blackbirds and went right to him if he asked or at least bugged Storm or Jean to give her a ride. That's the feeling I'm getting from her. She wants him to come to her first with his problems is what I'm seeing. The problems with long distance relationships it seems.
gliderpilotgirl
10-11-2006, 10:14 AM
Yeah I do post over on SHH by the same name :).
I didn't take that as her trying to shut MJ out of Peter's life. Just that she was upset that Peter went to her for comfort and help when she, his current girlfriend, was already there and willing to help him. I honstly wouldn't be surprised if she hoped in one of the blackbirds and went right to him if he asked or at least bugged Storm or Jean to give her a ride. That's the feeling I'm getting from her. She wants him to come to her first with his problems is what I'm seeing. The problems with long distance relationships it seems.
I suppose if I put myself in her place, I'd understand. If I had a boyfriend who was being distant, and he was getting closer to his ex, I would be upset and scared too. And Kitty as Peter's girlfriend has a right to be upset, Peter is being "emotionally unfaithful" to her, because he never really closed the book on MJ. I don't think he will either. Yes, the long distance thing will shoot them in the foot, as it has for many people. But even if he lived in the X-mansion, I doubt Peter would be as close to her as he has been with MJ, they are just not the same girl.
Chris S.
10-11-2006, 01:48 PM
I suppose if I put myself in her place, I'd understand. If I had a boyfriend who was being distant, and he was getting closer to his ex, I would be upset and scared too. And Kitty as Peter's girlfriend has a right to be upset, Peter is being "emotionally unfaithful" to her, because he never really closed the book on MJ. I don't think he will either. Yes, the long distance thing will shoot them in the foot, as it has for many people. But even if he lived in the X-mansion, I doubt Peter would be as close to her as he has been with MJ, they are just not the same girl.
And I hope he is never as close with her. MJ and Peter should always be friends even if they are not dating. That is what I didn't like about Kitty's reaction. Although it was just from her angle, at the same time she needs to understand that MJ and Peter were best friends even before their relationship. This is something I have had problems with in relationships as well, so I can see where Peter is coming from.
You have really taking over this thread by the way. A girl that can talk about comics, most impressive.
gliderpilotgirl
10-11-2006, 07:55 PM
And I hope he is never as close with her. MJ and Peter should always be friends even if they are not dating. That is what I didn't like about Kitty's reaction. Although it was just from her angle, at the same time she needs to understand that MJ and Peter were best friends even before their relationship. This is something I have had problems with in relationships as well, so I can see where Peter is coming from.
That is exactly part of my beef with Kitty. MJ was there well before her, and loved Peter before that spider ever came along. ( according to that amazing letter ) It frustrates me that Peter can't see that, and see that Kitty's interest is not in Peter Parker, but in his identity as a hero.
I have a feeling these feelings may be addressed in the supposed "team-up" of the two girls. ( Some part of me wishes MJ would give Kitty a right uppercut to the chin for stealing her man :o ) I really think that Kitty's time with Peter is coming to an end. I honestly don't think they ever will get that close, b/c their personalities are too similar. Peter needs someone who is not constantly fretting about their relationship and can be his rock. MJ provides that, owing to her personality. Kitty would make an awesome friend though, b/c her superheroic job, and she could provide romantic tension.
You have really taking over this thread by the way. A girl that can talk about comics, most impressive.
Is that a bad thing?:confused: I'm just trying to keep the thread going, and a good discussion up. Thanks for the compliment. :)
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