I'm Thinking of Becoming a Coke Dealer.

[Typo Lad]

Not the sort that comes in little plastic bags, mind you. The bottled sort.

In the Krispie Kreme thread, the topic of sugar-sweetened Coke came up. I had no idea so many people missed the pre-corn syrup days.

What's funny is. it never left.

You see, every year around Passover, Coke does a special run of assorted sodas. They're all corn syrup free. This is because corn is not allowed on passover (for Ashkenazim anyway). So for about a one-month perdio, you can buy sugar cane Coke. Pepsi too, actually.

Maybe what I need to do is buy a few cases and eBay 'em.

More seriously though, would people on CBR be interested in knowing when the sugar coke comes out? if so, post here and I'll give y'all a heads up.

[howyadoin]

Just outta curiosity, how would a person such as myself know? Would the ingredients list reflect the difference?

[DarkBlade]

I've asked at a couple grocery stores around here and the clerks just blinked at me... they have a very small section of things for passover, but don't seem to carry the sugar based sodas.

[Matt Algren]

Just outta curiosity, how would a person such as myself know? Would the ingredients list reflect the difference?
Yeah, it'll be ingredient #2, right after water.

This is the first I've heard about there even being a possibility of getting non-corn syrup pop in the States. Usually I've heard of people going to Mexico to get sugar-Coke or Pepsi. (Seriously, IIRC it's cheaper than corn syrup Coke there.)

[Michael P]

I might well be interested in some of this sugar-cane Pepsi.

[Typo Lad]

Just outta curiosity, how would a person such as myself know? Would the ingredients list reflect the difference?
Nope. They always say "sugar/corn syrup". Coke wants to save on label printing costs I guess.

The trick is the caps. It used to be easier. It used to be that a yellow cap meant Passover Soda. However, Coke's been using colored caps on and off.

The trick now is knowing your Kosher symbols. always printed on the cap of Passover Coke/Pepsi, it will hav ethe usual symbol (the OU for Coke and Chof-k for Pepsi) with a "P" next to it.

When I get home I'll try to find images.

Just remember - you won't find any in stores now.

[Merey]

About what year did Coke/Pepsi switch over to corn syrup? I'm not sure if I've ever had sugar sweetened soda. I know I hate what we have now. And I don't touch diet either because I have a feeling the artificial sweeteners are poison.

[Matt Algren]

Nope. They always say "sugar/corn syrup". Coke wants to save on label printing costs I guess.Pepsi lists corn syrup by itself, so the difference will be a little easier to see.

[Loren]

About what year did Coke/Pepsi switch over to corn syrup? I'm not sure if I've ever had sugar sweetened soda. I know I hate what we have now.

I don't know when Pepsi made the switch, but Coke moved to corn syrup back around 1986, when it became "Coca-Cola Classic."

Some soda conspiracy theorists claim that the entire "New Coke" debacle was an effort by Coke to disguise the fact that they were changing the original formula.

[Nick Soapdish]

I don't know when Pepsi made the switch, but Coke moved to corn syrup back around 1986, when it became "Coca-Cola Classic."

Some soda conspiracy theorists claim that the entire "New Coke" debacle was an effort by Coke to disguise the fact that they were changing the original formula.

I can't decide between that one or the "New Coke is just a gimmick to boost sales and awareness of Coke Classic". :D

And yeah, I'm interested in knowing about when Real Coke becomes available. I'm currently drinking ginger ale imported from Australia at least partly because it has sugar cane. (At least, I'm assuming that's part of the reason that it tastes good.)

[Joe Rice]

Not to rain on your parade, but real sugar Coke can be found in most Mexican neighborhoods. I normally hate soda, but that's some yummy stuff.

[Tadhg]

I'm pretty sure the Coke in Canada is made with Sugar.

[Bear]

More seriously though, would people on CBR be interested in knowing when the sugar coke comes out? if so, post here and I'll give y'all a heads up.

Absolutely! Taste test!

[Puma]

Mexico requires cane syrup in the Coke that is bottled there. A number of stores on the border have been selling the "Mexican" coke until the local US bottlers raised a fit and the Corporate lawyers showed up. Might not be a good move Typo.

[Nick Soapdish]

Probably so.

The two big reasons that Coke in the US is made with corn syrups are that we have huge tariffs on sugar (to protect the sugar barons) and to help corn farmers. I doubt that either is a factor ... well, just about anyhere else.

[Slam_Bradley]

Not to rain on your parade, but real sugar Coke can be found in most Mexican neighborhoods. I normally hate soda, but that's some yummy stuff.


Yep. Glass bottled, sugar Coke is available in the Mexican food section of most of the grocery stores around here. It's more expensive though.



So for about a one-month perdio, you can buy sugar cane Coke


Are you sure it isn't sugar beet Coke?

Just askin'.

[Arrjay]

They still make beer with sugar right?

[Loren]

Mexico requires cane syrup in the Coke that is bottled there. A number of stores on the border have been selling the "Mexican" coke until the local US bottlers raised a fit and the Corporate lawyers showed up. Might not be a good move Typo.

Ah yes, the Coca-Cola grey market (http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/archive/2006/March/19/local/stories/01local.htm).

"They're trespassing on the territory rights of many U.S. bottlers," said Coke spokesman Martin. "Bringing it into the country is not illegal. But what it does do from the Coca-Cola standpoint is it violates contractual rights that we have with our bottlers. And it has potential trademark right infringements as well."

Cry me a river. If Coke's upset that the market has a preference for sugar-sweetened Coca-Cola, then they ought to consider selling it. Not file lawsuits to keep the sugar stuff out of the country and out of the hands of American consumers.

Incidentally, sugar-sweetened Dr. Pepper is some fine stuff too.

[Loren]

This thread has me planning to do some shopping. Even though I'd been aware of the grey market for some time, I didn't realize it might reach as far as me. I assumed it was mostly a border-state thing.

Fortunately for me, I live within a few miles of one of Atlanta's major Hispanic communities. And I also live about five miles from the metro area's biggest Jewish community.

Sweet. So very, very sweet.

[BoosterBronze]

my local carneceria carried the mexican sugar coke, and IMHO it's superior. I wasn't aware until this thread of any kosher-kolas, but will keep my eye open this year.

My fiance always talks about growing up in Mexico and drinking coke out of a plastic bag with a straw because the store kept the bottle. That's just funny.

[Typo Lad]

I've asked at a couple grocery stores around here and the clerks just blinked at me... they have a very small section of things for passover, but don't seem to carry the sugar based sodas.

It would be in with the normal Coke.


I might well be interested in some of this sugar-cane Pepsi.

It's easier for you than like, anyone. Food Emporium carries them.


Not to rain on your parade, but real sugar Coke can be found in most Mexican neighborhoods. I normally hate soda, but that's some yummy stuff.

Since most of those places don't have Kosher stores, I've never checked. Cool.


Mexico requires cane syrup in the Coke that is bottled there. A number of stores on the border have been selling the "Mexican" coke until the local US bottlers raised a fit and the Corporate lawyers showed up. Might not be a good move Typo.

Passover Coke is made and bottled in the US plants. I can't see why they'd be upset.

[Winslow]

We have a growing Mexican population in my 'hood, with a food mart specializing in Asian and Mexican foods (I know - odd mix). I'm going to check this out too.

[Puma]

I

Passover Coke is made and bottled in the US plants. I can't see why they'd be upset.

they appear to be okay with a seasonal distribution but not with offering it fulltime; something to do with money of course

[Puma]

Ah yes, the Coca-Cola grey market (http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/archive/2006/March/19/local/stories/01local.htm).

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funny that your citation is from the local newspaper here in my next of the woods

[Bouncing Boy]

Originally Posted by Loren
I don't know when Pepsi made the switch, but Coke moved to corn syrup back around 1986, when it became "Coca-Cola Classic."

Some soda conspiracy theorists claim that the entire "New Coke" debacle was an effort by Coke to disguise the fact that they were changing the original formula.
I can't decide between that one or the "New Coke is just a gimmick to boost sales and awareness of Coke Classic". :D


I personally am a believer in the "They just thought people would like it better" theory. Snopes debunked (http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/newcoke.asp) the conspiracy theories on the subject and I buy their explaination. They also say the change over to corn syrup occured in 1980, a whole five years before the "New Coke" debacle.

[Athena Bast]

Being Canadian and having a bottle of Coke nearby I checked the label... and we have sugar/glucose-frutose on the label but not this corn syrup mumbo jumbo on the label.

[thik_3rd]

they all taste the same. if you wanna waste money on something that's exactly the same, that says more about you than the product itself.

[Typo Lad]

Clearly, sir, you have unsophisticated tastebuds.

Mind you, I actually like the corn syrup better.... but you can taste a difference.

[Dan Apodaca]

Yeah, 'round southern California parts, you can get glass bottles of cane cola for pretty cheap. Usually somewhere around a buck-buck twenty-five.

[Guapo Méndez]

Man, do I crave for a coke right now.

[Dan Apodaca]

Man, do I crave for a coke right now.

I'll race you.

[Guapo Méndez]

You're on.
One 600 ml bottle of sugar cane coke coming up!

[Guapo Méndez]

Got mine. No 600 ml, but 500ml tastes just as good.

[Dan Apodaca]

Got mine. No 600 ml, but 500ml tastes just as good.

Damn, you won! I had to get 500ml, too.

[Guapo Méndez]

No sweat. Cheers!

http://www.antiquebottles.com/coke/CokeLabels.jpg

[Valmore]

Damnit! The only thing I can try to race to is to the beach to catch illegal Cuban refugees.

Good thing I only drink Diet soda, I guess.

[DarkBlade]

Is that what the labels look like where you are, Guapo?

[Guapo Méndez]

Nah, just googled Coke and posted the oldest looking ones.

Although my Dad has an anniversary bottle back home and it has the 1950's label.

[Dan Apodaca]

Good thing I only drink Diet soda, I guess.

All you have to put up with is a flat, empty taste, and the immasculation.

[Valmore]

All you have to put up with is a flat, empty taste, and the immasculation.

Diet Mountain Dew isn't so bad, actually. They amped the flavor up somehow. Probably more formaldahyde.

[thik_3rd]

diet tastes better than regular.

[Gingold]

diet tastes better than regular.

This is so, so wrong.

[Valmore]

diet tastes better than regular.

I wouldn't go that far. Regular soda tastes better, until you get used to drinking diet soda.

[Dan Apodaca]

This is so, so wrong.

It's what they have to tell themselves to distract from the complete absurdity of diet soda.

It's like light cigarettes.

[howyadoin]

It's what they have to tell themselves to distract from the complete absurdity of diet soda.

It's like light cigarettes.Or alcohol-free beer.

[Night]

There is a difference. I can even tell the difference between a Georga bottled corn Coke and a Texas bottled corn Coke. (Most onse sold in Austin or Houston are made in GA, but in the small towns along the way many are TX). There is more kick to the Sugar Cokes, but I've gotten used enough to the corn ones, that I most of the time prefer them. When I'm really poor Sam's cola isn't that bad, but Kroger cola is nasty... like Pepsi.

[Cei-U!]

Would people on CBR be interested in knowing when the sugar coke comes out? if so, post here and I'll give y'all a heads up.

Oh, hell, yes. Put me down for a couple of cases, for sure. What do we have to do to get it year round?

Cei-U!
"Classic" Coke, my Aunt Beulah, I summon the sucrose!

[Deskad]

As a popaholic, I just have to ask...

will there be a 2L coke blak?

[Typo Lad]

As a popaholic, I just have to ask...

will there be a 2L coke blak?
If there is, I want to watch someone drink one in a sitting.

[DarkBlade]

If there is, I want to watch someone drink one in a sitting.
Why do you hate people so?

[Typo Lad]

Stimulus, response, luv.

[DarkBlade]

*L* Ah, okay.

I can't imagine trying to drink that much. But then, it also tasted nasty to me when I tried it.

[Dreadstar]

*L* Ah, okay.

I can't imagine trying to drink that much. But then, it also tasted nasty to me when I tried it.
Do you like coffee? Black? Cream and sugar?

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

Not the sort that comes in little plastic bags, mind you. The bottled sort.damn i thought my advise would finnally come in hand :(

[DarkBlade]

Do you like coffee? Black? Cream and sugar?
I tend to put cream, or at least milk, and sugar in my coffee. Milk isn't required, sugar is.

[Dreadstar]

I tend to put cream, or at least milk, and sugar in my coffee. Milk isn't required, sugar is.


Hmmm... I would have pegged you as someone who would have taken to the stuff then. I like the flavor, but since I take my coffee black, the sweetness is what turns me off.

[DarkBlade]

A large part of it is the ASPERTAME OF DOOM flavor in it.

[Dreadstar]

A large part of it is the ASPERTAME OF DOOM flavor in it.


Oh, that makes sense.

I've been in and out and off and on with diet sweeteners so often I've grown accustomed to their taste.

It almost makes the day begin.

[DarkBlade]

Doesn't take much aspertame to make me sick. Splenda's okay, depending on how much.

[Guapo Méndez]

When I was a kid, I gobbled down a handful of saccarine pills from my mom's bottle.

I swore I'd never taste the stuf again.

[Valmore]

I've been in and out and off and on with diet sweeteners so often I've grown accustomed to their taste.

Yeah, at first diet sodas would taste weird because I was accustomed to normal soda. Then, I decided to cut down on sugar while still getting caffeine, so after a couple years of drinking diet sodas, my taste buds are accustomed to it, but now regular sodas taste weird to me.

[howyadoin]

When I was a kid, I gobbled down a handful of saccarine pills from my mom's bottle.

I swore I'd never taste the stuf again.Did you sing "Goodbye Saccharine (http://snltranscripts.jt.org/76/76pweiss.phtml)"?

[Ontir]

Typo,

I recommend you deal Pepsi One isntead. My reasons are as follows:

High Fructose Corn Syrup is just poison, and no good for anyone.

Aspartame can cause an Insulin spike, albeit less than sugar or the HFCS, and apparently it prevents the body from burning stored fat.

The Coca~Cola product which was made with Sucralose or "Splenda," seems to have been pulled from distribution/production.

Pepsi One is made with Sucralose, and of the possible artificial sweeteners listed above, does the least amount of harm to the body.

[Typo Lad]

Coke with sugar is "healthier"than any of that.

it's still crap though.

[Dan Apodaca]

Coke with sugar is "healthier"than any of that.

it's still crap though.

Don't worry, he'll figure it out eventually.

[Night]

The Coca~Cola product which was made with Sucralose or "Splenda," seems to have been pulled from distribution/production.

Pepsi One is made with Sucralose, and of the possible artificial sweeteners listed above, does the least amount of harm to the body. That we know of. That's just because it's not old enough for clinical studies to catch up. Or maybe you’re not old enough to remember when Aspartame was the new miracle sweetener, which had no side effects. (before we found out that it eats brain cells) Everything that was immediately switched over to this junk from saccharin. Personally I could almost palate the saccharin 7up’s and Dr.Peppers. …

We make jokes that Splenda causes Spleen Cancer… which is just made up, but we really don’t know what it does.

[Callie]

I love Mexicokes and Dublin Dr Peppers. They don't taste quite as sweet and have less of an aftertaste than their corn syrup counterparts.

But I generally avoid regular sodas and drink Diet instead. Diet Cherry Vanilla Dr. Peppers. Mmmmm.

[Ontir]

That we know of. That's just because it's not old enough for clinical studies to catch up. Or maybe you’re not old enough to remember when Aspartame was the new miracle sweetener, which had no side effects. (before we found out that it eats brain cells) Everything that was immediately switched over to this junk from saccharin. Personally I could almost palate the saccharin 7up’s and Dr.Peppers. …

We make jokes that Splenda causes Spleen Cancer… which is just made up, but we really don’t know what it does.

Splenda/Sucralose actually is sugar, but with a flipped molecule, which allows you to taste the sweet, but not be absorbed by your body. The particulars were explained to me, but I don't recall them at this late hour. I've also heard that it was developed at the same time as aspartame, but didn't have the right people in the right places to push it through a speedy FDA trial back in the 80's, and that it's actually been more rigorously tested than aspartame was, or is. Again, that's what I've been told. As I'm now at the age that damn near everyone in my family has been diagnosed with diabetes, I do my best to limit the amount of sugar I take in, so sucralose has been a godsend. The best tasting, is actually sorbitol, but if you get a little too much of that and... well, let's just say you'll want a commode handy!

I often buy a 2-liter of a cola with sucralose, and put a little squirt of lime juice into it. It's not too much sugar from the juice, and it tastes great!

Interestingly, I saw someone with this book today, I couldn't see the title; but it was something about how the pharmaceutical companies created things like High Fructose Corn Syrup, which is now being blamed for childhood obesity and early on-set Type 2 Diabetes, and is now creating drugs to manage the problems. I've not read any of it; but it is interesting!

[Night]

Splenda/Sucralose actually is sugar, but with a flipped molecule, which allows you to taste the sweet, but not be absorbed by your body. Just like ethanol (grain alchohol) and ethane are the same thing…. With a flipped “molecule”… or Hydrogen and water are the same thing with a flipped “molecule”. You see when you start monkey-ing around with things at the molecular level, you get entirely different substances. …. And that’s assuming you’re buying what they’re saying….

What they really did was substitute hydroxyl groups (-OH) with Chlorine atoms. (you know the stuff that makes bleach a disinfectant that if separated from the rest of it forms a toxic gas cloud that kills you by burning out your lungs) So instead of C12H22O11 you get C12H19Cl3O8. (Note that Cl is also the second part of table salt so don’t get too paranoid folks… just don’t believe everything marketing feeds you.) I’m just saying they are not the same thing. That is a marketing gimmick.
The particulars were explained to me, but I don't recall them at this late hour. I've also heard that it was developed at the same time as aspartame, but didn't have the right people in the right places to push it through a speedy FDA trial back in the 80's, and that it's actually been more rigorously tested than aspartame was, or is. Again, that's what I've been told. As I'm now at the age that damn near everyone in my family has been diagnosed with diabetes, I do my best to limit the amount of sugar I take in, so sucralose has been a godsend. The best tasting, is actually sorbitol, but if you get a little too much of that and... well, let's just say you'll want a commode handy! Yeah, got some of that in my tree too. I have to be somewhat conscious of it myself. I also have people in my family that haven’t had the best reactions to the stuff. There was some dissenting factors in the acceptance studies of surcalose that suggested problems with the Thymus as well as your general kidney/liver problems that tend to pop up, but these were at high doses. We still don’t have a good sample with people at large with the long term effects of mild to medium doses.

I am not saying don't use the stuff. Just be conscious on what you’re trading for what. Over the weekend, I'm cutting out a lot of the caffeine I've been having too much of, as well as the sugar. Every now and then one ought to take it all down to water to flush out the system. A good amount of our aliments today are dehydration related.

[Justin D.]

Not to rain on your parade, but real sugar Coke can be found in most Mexican neighborhoods. I normally hate soda, but that's some yummy stuff.

Interesting. I had no idea about that. There's a huge mexican grocery store called Fiesta not far from where I live. Maybe I'll swing by to pick up a sugar-cane Coke or three.

One reason to drink sugar-cane Coke instaed of corn-syrup Coke is that corn-syrup Coke can also act as a sort of hunger sense inhibitor. Even if your body is full, corn-syrup prevents you from recognizing that and you continue to eat. If anything, it's a good reason not to order Coke or any other soda when you go to a buffet.

[Nikita]

Not the sort that comes in little plastic bags, mind you. The bottled sort.

In the Krispie Kreme thread, the topic of sugar-sweetened Coke came up. I had no idea so many people missed the pre-corn syrup days.

What's funny is. it never left.

You see, every year around Passover, Coke does a special run of assorted sodas. They're all corn syrup free. This is because corn is not allowed on passover (for Ashkenazim anyway). So for about a one-month perdio, you can buy sugar cane Coke. Pepsi too, actually.

Maybe what I need to do is buy a few cases and eBay 'em.

More seriously though, would people on CBR be interested in knowing when the sugar coke comes out? if so, post here and I'll give y'all a heads up.


Here's an interesting thing about Coke. (Coka-Cola Classic that is) You can use it to "eat" grime and sludge in your kitchen sink. I've done it myself. I'm not sure what ingredient in Coke does it, but it works good. You just dump a bottle in and let it sit overnight.

And that's my Coke fact of the day. :)

[Callie]

Coke has phosphoric acid in it. Between that and the sugar, it's a dentist's nightmare (or best friend... $$$)

[Dan Apodaca]

Interesting. I had no idea about that. There's a huge mexican grocery store called Fiesta not far from where I live. Maybe I'll swing by to pick up a sugar-cane Coke or three.

They come in the big glass bottles, with the spanish labels. Mmmmmm.

[Callie]

Un medio litro. Muy sabrosa.

[Justin D.]

They come in the big glass bottles, with the spanish labels. Mmmmmm.

The only ones I could find are 355ml (12 ounces). The only Spanish on the bottle is "refresco" and "no retornable". They are Mexican Cokes that use sugar instead of corn-syrup. I bought four of them, and I'm drinking one now after letting it sit in the fridge for a few hours.

Wow, there really is a difference. I'm sure some people can't taste it, but I certainly can. It doesn't have that overly sweet aftertaste that American Coke has. This is damn good. It helps that Fiesta has the Mexican Cokes on sale for ninety-nine cents until, oh, December 24.

I'm glad I went to Fiesta looking for these Cokes because the produce section there is friggin' huge! Of course, they're also selling freshly made cracklin' with fat in the back so they help even out any healthy food they have with that.

[Cherokee Jack]

The Hispanic grocery store in my neighborhood carries Sprite made in Mexico, also in glass bottles, and if I remember right, there's a store in Milwaukee that has both Coke and Sprite, as well as Fanta products (in glass, from Mexico.)

[Callie]

I've seen the Sprite version in the Central Market around here before, but I've never tried it. Would be nice if the so-called all natural 7-Up would start using sugar instead of the decidedly unnatural HFCS.

Fiesta is friggin' amazing. I only go like every couple of months, but I always walk out with a several bags of random foods from around the world. Only store I've ever found that carried IRN-BRU.

[Dan Apodaca]

I've seen the Sprite version in the Central Market around here before, but I've never tried it. Would be nice if the so-called all natural 7-Up would start using sugar instead of the decidedly unnatural HFCS.

I thought they had switched. If not, you're totally right.

Though the changes they did make do taste better.