View Full Version : "Batman and Robin" is now hilarious!
Corky
09-24-2006, 05:08 PM
Sure every fan hates this movie but now i think this movie is hilarious seeing it again now that i bought the new special edition boxset of all 4 of the original Batman franchise. I also love it how Joel Schumacher with the team of that movie appoligizes for making that movie and how they made fun of it on the audio commentary, this definitely makes good home MST3K material.
OverMaster
09-26-2006, 08:24 AM
Sorry, but the humor in B&R is horribly lame. The Adam West series was sophisticated comedy compared to that movie.
I just can't laugh at any of the jokes made there, although the MSTing of the script and even its MAD Magazine parody took a few laughs off me.
Drakonnen
09-26-2006, 09:00 AM
I think the funniest thing is watching Arnold play Mr. Freeze and thinking "That guy is actually Governor of our country's largest state now."
The Xenos
09-26-2006, 01:46 PM
Maaaaaaaaaaaaybe if it's on TV and I have nothing.. NOTHING.. else to do.
DeweyFinn
09-26-2006, 08:42 PM
I used to work at a video store, and we would put "Batman and Robin" on the monitors a lot. Everything Arnold said would have us howling with laughter (and attempting bad imitations). So really, if you aren't someone who takes things waaaay too seriously (I.E. an awful lot of comics fanboys: "grrrrr, The Batman would never do that!" and if you call him "The Batman" it's already too late for you), then "Batman and Robin" is a blast to watch. It buries the needle on camp value. :D
Super Buddies Forever
09-26-2006, 10:12 PM
Sorry, but the humor in B&R is horribly lame. The Adam West series was sophisticated comedy compared to that movie
Well, the Adam West series was actually funny. It set out to be campy and succeeded through its deadpan, straight-laced delivery. Batman & Robin, on the other hand, tried to ape that campy formula while forgetting the deadpan part.
The Xenos
09-26-2006, 10:44 PM
I guess the thing that bugs me and many is that there was no reason to spend MILLIONS of dollars on a campy Batman movie. Nevermind it ruined the oppertunity for a good Batman movie to be made. We already had the campy 60s Batman. Why waste time rehashing that?
Paul Dee
09-27-2006, 01:52 AM
Nevermind it ruined the oppertunity for a good Batman movie to be made.
Nonsense, if anything the car crash of Batman and Robin made Batman Begins more of a possibility.
We already had the campy 60s Batman. Why waste time rehashing that?
Change the words ''campy 60s Batman'' to a ''yet another thread on how crap Batman and Robin is'' and I couldn't agree more.
skally19
09-27-2006, 09:23 AM
me and my friends quote the crap outa this move cause it sucked so much. "take two of these and see me in the morning" in an arnold voice is classic
the_coldest_sun
09-28-2006, 08:22 AM
I think the funniest thing is watching Arnold play Mr. Freeze and thinking "That guy is actually Governor of our country's largest state now."
Arnold's the govenor of Texas???!! :eek:
But yeah, this movie is hilarious because of how ridiculous it is. I just watched the De-Assified version edited by Greencapt and it still had various amounts of cheese. This movie had me shaking my lowered head, laughing to myself. :D
karaokefanboy
09-28-2006, 09:01 AM
Fans of The Colbert Report may have seen the clip from Batman and Robin played in last night's episode. The jab was at George Clooney running for office, and how the country can only have ONE star of the film in office at any time. The clip was Ahnold saying, "Let's kick some ice." When the clip received laughter and applause, Colbert commented, "I think that's the only praise that movie has ever received."
Is he reading these boards or what?
the goddamn batman
09-28-2006, 12:57 PM
Well, the Adam West series was actually funny. It set out to be campy and succeeded through its deadpan, straight-laced delivery.
I believe the 60's tv series took itself seriously when it started, but once they realised people thought it was goofy, they ran with it. Which is why the movie (60's movie) is just self parody.
I believe, but could be wrong.
and yeah, Batman and Robin sucks.
phantom1592
09-28-2006, 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drakonnen
I think the funniest thing is watching Arnold play Mr. Freeze and thinking "That guy is actually Governor of our country's largest state now."
Arnold's the govenor of Texas???!! :eek:
:confused:
Funny how everyone forgets about Alaska, way up there.
David Atkins
09-28-2006, 03:07 PM
That's not fair! Alaksa gets to count their frickin' ICE as landmass... :mad: :p
Nomad
09-28-2006, 03:37 PM
That's not fair! Alaksa gets to count their frickin' ICE as landmass... :mad: :p
No we don't. Seriously, ice as a landmass? Even without ice, we'd crush texas. And we hate Batman and Robin, too
Sabrinaset
09-28-2006, 03:50 PM
I think the funniest thing is watching Arnold play Mr. Freeze and thinking "That guy is actually Governor of our country's largest state now."
Well, in Arnolds defense, Gray-out Davis was the Governor at the time, and he was so bad, even a potted plant would have won against him in the run-off. Arnold has actually done far better as the Governator than I thought he would have.
But yeah, I watched the movie last week ... and it's not that bad now. It's funny. In fact, my g/f and I were laughing out loud MST3K-ing it ourselves. I think this was the first time I noticed that Jesse Ventura was a guard in the movie.
Yea I remember buying the movie. It wasn't great but I bought it cuz I liked Batman and I wanted to enjoy a new movie....bad move.
mattx110
09-28-2006, 07:13 PM
Well, in Arnolds defense, Gray-out Davis was the Governor at the time, and he was so bad, even a potted plant would have won against him in the run-off. Arnold has actually done far better as the Governator than I thought he would have.
But yeah, I watched the movie last week ... and it's not that bad now. It's funny. In fact, my g/f and I were laughing out loud MST3K-ing it ourselves. I think this was the first time I noticed that Jesse Ventura was a guard in the movie.
you do know what this means right? we've been looking to predator for our politicians, but they're really coming from batman and robin. this is mindblowing. this means clooney might be forced by bat-destiny to run for office. of course, that probably wouldn't be so bad, especially compared to president o'donnell
Patient Boy
09-28-2006, 07:25 PM
I believe the 60's tv series took itself seriously when it started, but once they realised people thought it was goofy, they ran with it. Which is why the movie (60's movie) is just self parody.
I believe, but could be wrong.
and yeah, Batman and Robin sucks.
Watch the early episodes. The Adam West Batman was never not campy. Legend has it that the series was inspired by a screening of the 1940s Batman serials at the Playboy mansion, which had everybody heckling and laughing at it (the obvious reference would be MST3K, but we never got that show around here).
dancj
09-29-2006, 04:52 AM
I believe the 60's tv series took itself seriously when it started, but once they realised people thought it was goofy, they ran with it. Which is why the movie (60's movie) is just self parody.
I'm pretty sure it was always a comedy. I read somewhere (I think possibly in the Official Batman Batbook) that when they first showed it to preview audiences and some had it with a canned laughter ("laughter track" to Americans) and some had it without and both groups seemed to like it about the same amount, and they decided to stick without the canned laughter - which was the right decision IMO.
Dan
OverMaster
09-29-2006, 05:57 AM
you do know what this means right? we've been looking to predator for our politicians, but they're really coming from batman and robin. this is mindblowing. this means clooney might be forced by bat-destiny to run for office. of course, that probably wouldn't be so bad, especially compared to president o'donnell
I don't know why, but even though I'm not from the US or living there, I dread for Alicia Silverstone being in any position of public power.
What is she doing nowadays, anyway?
Agentum
09-29-2006, 06:13 AM
I really hope that the 60s Batman tv show was supposed to be funny, i hate it but if they wanted it to be a comedy of Batman it succeded.
And about this movie, even if it is ridicolus it is not funny enough to see more than one time.
Gargus
09-29-2006, 10:29 AM
Batman and robin was bad for the wrong reasons that was my problem.
I dont even think the old tv series was bad, it was just a product of its time. Violence, sex and dark overtones were still fairly taboo for normal tv so they had to work with what they had. It was enjoyable though because it had camp value. And just because something is bad doesnt make it campy, that word does have a actual definition and much like the word irony you cant just say it when it sounds good because it has a meaning to it.
But it was over the top stupid. They were trying so hard they made it so awfull. I mean come on, bat nipples? Thats just stupid, its about as amusing as fart jokes. Do note: fart jokes can be funny, but you need a hell of a setup to make me laugh at one.
But in the end what made me hate it so much was the fact it wasnt batman or any charcters. They were so far removed from the original versions it was wasted. Aside from names and a few traits it wasnt batman at all, it was the exact oppposite.
It also pissed me off because it gave comic movies a black eye it didnt need, it has enough of those already. Every very bad comic movie makes it harder for new ones to get made. Hell if it wasnt for blade and then the xmen movie raking in all that cash I bet we wouldnt have V, spiderman, hellboy or any of the other good ones. Comics book movies are a tightrope walk as it is, last thing we need is ones like batman and robin threating to knock others off along with itself.
filthysize
09-29-2006, 10:41 AM
Sure every fan hates this movie but now i think this movie is hilarious seeing it again now that i bought the new special edition boxset of all 4 of the original Batman franchise. I also love it how Joel Schumacher with the team of that movie appoligizes for making that movie and how they made fun of it on the audio commentary, this definitely makes good home MST3K material.
You just discovered this now? :p
My friends and I probably rent B&R three times a year for a group viewing. It's a tradition. Batman & Robin is easily my favorite Batman film after Begins.
Nomad
09-29-2006, 06:23 PM
The thing is, the Tim Burton batman movies have a few good laughs in them, but in the end, they're good movies. Michael Keaton is the most peculiar choice for Bruce Wayne that I can think of, but it worked. The shortest Batman ever. What about Batman Forever? I know it's not as bad as B&R, but who here liked it?
"Does the name JOEL SHUMACHER mean anything to you? Does the name BATMAN AND ROBIN mean anything? I was there! Kraft food services. I'd say, hello mr. fruit..." -Home Movies
mattx110
09-30-2006, 10:59 AM
anyone see flawless though? that's a perfect joel shumacher film. singing, de niro, terrific.
he coulda done B+R pretty good as a more dramatic darker thing, just like, the next step of flooded with darkness past burton. the neon paint and stuf could hav worked too, they just went too high-key on everything. if you want a car climbing a wall, you have to give up the monkey suits and nipples on the costume. if you want a mad doctor in a super iceshooting suit, you don't have to make him a 300 pound guy with a funny accent. umm... just forget poison ivy... not worth how down-to-earth you'd have to make potential rape scenes...
oh, and what they did to gordon was just pointless and silly. nobody can be that useless. the only decent gordon roll until begins was the first burton film. the second burton film... it's too cartoony and silly for such a dark film.
phantom1592
09-30-2006, 11:16 AM
anyone see flawless though? that's a perfect joel shumacher film. singing, de niro, terrific.
he coulda done B+R pretty good as a more dramatic darker thing, just like, the next step of flooded with darkness past burton. the neon paint and stuf could hav worked too, they just went too high-key on everything. if you want a car climbing a wall, you have to give up the monkey suits and nipples on the costume. if you want a mad doctor in a super iceshooting suit, you don't have to make him a 300 pound guy with a funny accent. umm... just forget poison ivy... not worth how down-to-earth you'd have to make potential rape scenes...
oh, and what they did to gordon was just pointless and silly. nobody can be that useless. the only decent gordon roll until begins was the first burton film. the second burton film... it's too cartoony and silly for such a dark film.
I didn't even think Gordon was useful in the first one. Its a shame what they did to that character.
Corky
09-30-2006, 11:21 AM
Doesn't it remind you of "Superman 4: The Quest for Peace"? same kind of death of a DC movie franchise, that's why we now have "Superman Returns" and "Batman Begins".
I thought the acting and dialog in this movie made me laugh my a$$ off and thought it was more watchable then any Uwe Boll movie.
shyguy
09-30-2006, 12:17 PM
The 1960's Batman show was always intended to be a campy comedic show; that's obvious from watching it for five minutes. It's also absolutely brilliant.
I like Batman & Robin more than Batman Forever. They're both stupid, awful movies, but there's more to laugh at in the former.
The Xenos
09-30-2006, 12:19 PM
Ok. Ok. I must confess I sometimes jokingly make the terrible comment of, "Suit me up, uncle Alfred!". Though I usually use it to point out how stupid and terrible Batgirl was in the movie. Uncle Alfred? Ugh.
filthysize
09-30-2006, 01:56 PM
I like Batman & Robin more than Batman Forever. They're both stupid, awful movies, but there's more to laugh at in the former.
Exactly.
Batman Forever is horrible, but it TRIED to be a good movie. There were some attempt to dwelve into Bruce's psyche and make Robin's acceptance all dark and angsty -- and it's just complete rubbish. The exchange between Batman and Nicole Kidman on the GCPD rooftop is one of the worst dialogue ever written... possibly the worst. I mean, it's just insanely bad, and not intentionally so. Akiva Goldsman should be shot in the head and wear his Oscar up his ass for writing something like that. "My life's an open book, do you read?" "I don't exactly fit into a family picnic." -- I... Jesus.
Somewhere along the line, I think Schumacher wised up as to how ridiculous Forever was, and decided to just throw good taste out the window when he made Batman & Robin. The result is something that's wonderfully amusing to watch, like Teletubby porn. You can't not enjoy it.
Before Begins came out, it was the only Batman movie I cared enough about to watch over and over. I can quote that movie endlessly, almost as much as I quote Commando and Total Recall.
Robin bursting through a wooden door leaving HIS SYMBOL as a hole on the door? Priceless. How can you not love it?
Nomad
09-30-2006, 05:16 PM
You don't like the original Batman movie? I watch that ever year. It's my a-number-one mooovie.
Scarlet Speedster
10-01-2006, 10:40 AM
I think Batman and Robin will always serve as a warning to filmmakers and studios on how not to f*** up an established, beloved character all for the sake of box office success. The closest comparison is Superman IV, but then it was made by Canon Films (makers of high-quality films to be sure) at a time when there were no other superhero film franchises. After the diasppointment of Superman III, nobody really wanted to see another Superman film and those who did, well, got a low-budget, hollow attempt that buried the charm of the Man of Steel.
Batman and Robin was made after the financial success of Batman Forever--and while a lot of Batman fans bitched and moaned, the general public liked it a lot more than Burton's grim and nasty Batman Returns--so the suits figured that camp and an assault on the senses over common sense and storytelling were more important. And everybody--Batman fans and the general public alike--hated it.
I agree that it's fun to watch because it's so bad, but I have to be in that mindset--sometimes it's just painful seeing a genuinely dark character showcased in an awful movie.
mattx110
10-01-2006, 07:16 PM
i still think joel coulda done a great job, maybe with less umm... well, writers that were less of something but i can't think of what right now. but idk, they should skipped to the mind-f*ck scarecrow story cause then all the neon and psychadelia woulda made some sense, and i mean, flatliners was kinda creepy. skinny cackling insane doctor causing psychotic delusions and hallucinations=really creepy.
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