Marvel League 2006: Jared Humphries vs. Thanos2099

[Nightcrawler]

Welcome to our only match today. Please read and consider both strategies before voting on the one you think would win. Discussion is appreciated.

Jared Humphries- Black Bolt, Gilgamesh, Alpha the Ultimate Mutant, Magik II (Sefton), Harbinger, Hybrid (Marks), Ajax II, Diablo, Aireo

Thanos2099- Blink, Ronan the Accuser, Pip the Troll, Bishop, Nitro, Deadpool, Sunfire, Tag, Paibok, Blind Alfred


Here is Thanos2099's strategy-

As the two teams are placed on the battle field, Pip begins immediatly teleporting The Pool Party to various spots on the field at random, to keep Jared's team from locking on an attack, and it gives Ronan time to use the universal weapon to get a lock on the other team, if they are using illusions, or telepathic doubles of the team. During one teleport, Blink teleports Sunfire to whatever spot Ronan dictates to her, once in place Sunfire emits a "Famine Burst" over Jared's team, causing them to all grab their stomaches and double over in hunger pains (Ajax would probably not be affected by this since he is partially robotic.Teleportation is used to negate force fields, instead of attempted frontal attacks). Sunfire, after the "Famine Burst" releases another, he then begins to set up a barrier of fire, this wont stop Jared's team but between the two bursts and a wall of fire around them it should keep them distracted, to keep them from utilizing some of their powers to erase the effects Sunfire had on them. Deadpool for the first time in this tournament is focused and ready for battle since the opposing team has one of the few people he trully hates, Ajax/Francis,who, though is partially robotic with no real pain receptors can't fly so he is basically useless against Sunfire, and even though he can run at near sonic speeds teleporting is still faster. Pip keeps the team moving, while Ronan gains a lock. Ronan then takes command of the team, and Blink sends out Paibok, to emit a hypnotic burst at the team from the sky, in this burst he commands them to attack each other, regardless of the pain they are in. Diablo, Aireo, and Hybrid should be able to be hypnotized, and they turn on their own team. Jared's team would probably be able to negate the "Famine Burst" by now, but now the remaining members have to deal with some of their own. Ajax with his speed and strength should have no problem taking out Diablo, and Aireo. Hybrid may prove more difficult. Ronan then let again tells Blink where to strike, and Tag uses his "Tag" effect on Nitro to attract others, Blink then sends Nitro in to the midst of the opposing group,while recalling Sunfire, and Paibok. Nitro detonates in as large a blast as he can muster. The blast should take out Magik, and Hybrid, since he is under Paibok's effects, and really wont do any thing he isn't told to do without Paibok's say so. (Yes Pip can teleport that much) With the team regrouped and Jared's team regrouping itself with slightly depleated numbers. The Pool Party finally stops teleporting behind Jared's team, Ronan immediatly brings the Universal weapon to bear, and has it emit a large blast of energy on the opposing team, again knocking them off balance, Blink teleports Gilgemesh 100 feet over the battle, then she opens two portals one right above the other in a teleport loop keeping Gilgemesh falling from portal to portal building up speed, she has to concentrate to do this so she backs out of the battle. Paibok encases the team in a huge ice structure and then he and Ronan turn their attention to Bishop, filling him with energy charging him up and making him stronger. Paibok then flies up in to the air and charges the ice structure in metal form shattering it, Bishop releases the entirety of the energy he absorbed in to Harbinger, this won't kill him but it should take him out of the remainder of the battle. Ronan and Sunfire begin to push the attack once the ice shield is taken down, they begin to fire at Bolt and Alpha, both of whom are able to disburse the energy from them, but this takes concentration, while Ronan and Sunfire are fighting Alpha and Bolt, Deadpool is being trounced by Ajax but these two have killed eachother before (more than once) and have a deep-rooted hatred of each other that would guarentee the two would be drawn in to battle with each other, and with Wades healing factor back to better shape than it was during their last fight the two are stuck in battle with each other.

Part 2:
Finally Ronan, and Sunfire cut their beams off short causing both Bolt and Alpha to be taken off balance and the two lunge forward, just as Blink opens a third portal, and cuts off the other two, the third portal is facing Bolt, and a Gilgemesh that has been building speed from falling is sent flying in to Bolt the two collide with the sound of marble colliding with iron, knocking them in to Alpha and taking out Bolt and Gilgemesh. Paibok, now recovered from shattering the ice dome, helps Wade out by doing a flyby and grabbing Ajax by the leg, now Paibok pushes the attack on Alpha, using Ajax as a make-shift hammer. Paibok has one target, that huge dome of Alpha's (and by dome I mean that huge melon, his noggin', his freakishly large head). Ronan, Sunfire, Bishop, and Paibok begin pummeling Alpha, who would probably erect (get your mind out of the gutter fanboys erect means to raise) a forcefield to protect himself, though under this assult it should keep him off balance enough to only be able to execute defensive manuvers. Deadpools healing factor has had ample time to kick in and he joins the fray Whispering to Blink who does her last teleports of the match, she teleports Alpha to a spot in the field just as Deadpool fires a lone shot from his gun. Alpha appears disoriented, and taken aback at the fact that he was just standing in a different spot, and he isn't the one who activated a teleport, he doesn't have time to do anything as the bullet from Deadpools gun passes through his brain.
"What did you do?" Shouts Blink, "I thought you were going to shoot him in the shoulder, just wounding him?"
"Well" replies Wade "Sometimes a fight calls for a flesh wound and sometimes it calles for a... DID YOU NOT SEE THAT JIMUNGUS FREAKIN FRACKIN HEAD ON THAT GUYS SHOULDERS?? MY GOD HE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WALK WITH THAT THING. Besides the Skrull took that hobo-taint Francis from me, so I had to kill something. I'm a monster lady, it's what I am, and what I do. Seeing Ajax reminded me of that." Ronan, and the rest rejoin the rest of the group, Paibok still holding what's left of Ajax. Blind Alfred does what she can to console Wade. The battle is over, but there is a deffinite rift in the group now as both Deadpool and Paibok resorted to lethal force, Paibok is a soldier and it really didn't bother him, but Wade has been striving for something better, and while killing isn't something new for him, he isn't comfortable to killing on someone elses terms, and not his own.

[Nightcrawler]

And Jared Humphries's-

Things of note: Thanos2099’s got a lot of teleporters on his team, but so do I. In addition, only Ronan has any real defensive power on his team. Also, as Annihilation has confirmed, Ronan’s weapon no longer has some of its former functions, such as time-displacement fields.


Start of the round:

I wouldn’t be surprised if Thanos2099’s team starts off my trying to teleport into my team’s midst and doing something like having Nitro explode with full force. So, instead of setting up shields, my team, aside from Harbinger, teleports directly behind Thanos2099’s own team(Diablo, alpha, and Magick II are all teleporters). If Thanos2099’s team teleports, we’ll essentially be switching places. Otherwise, we’ll be taking them by surprise.

If we’ve switched places, his team will find itself right next to Harbinger, who first knocks out or kills Bishop(if he’s there) with super-strength, then unleashes a massive energy blast on his team(since Harbinger was designed to eventually obliterate all of New York city in one blast, this should hurt quite a bit).

If Thanos2099’s team stays put, Black Bolt forces Nitro to explode on his own team. Iron Man once used an electromagnetic frequency to do the same to Nitro before, repeatedly. And considering Bolt’s mastery of the electromagnetic spectrum, this should be easy to accomplish. Bolt does this to Nitro while at the same time placing a protective field around Bishop.

Either of these should take out almost all of Thanos2099’s team. Regardless of whether Thanos2099 teleports happens, the following actions occur:

Alpha and Magick II go after Ronan. Ronan’s hardly immune to telepathy, and his special hammer, while potent, won’t have much effect on magic. Alpha will also use his energy powers to counter the Universal Weapon’s.

Hybrid engages Paibok, overwhelming him with psionics and magic, and perhaps using his power-suppression and shapeshifting abilities as well.

Ajax takes on his old foe Deadpool. Having very nearly slaughtered Wade twice in the past(and was only eventually defeated with a LOT of prep), Pool should be easy pickings, especially for a speedblitz. Aerio joins in as well, mostly as a distraction.

Gilgamesh takes out Bishop if he hasn’t already fallen, while Harbinger blasts Sunfire and Tag into oblivion.

Black Bolt uses his faster-than human reflexes and senses to track the teleporters, and take them out with well-timed energy blasts. If needed, he’ll also snipe Ronan from a distance.

Gilgamesh now joins the pounding of Ronan. His completely cellular control of his own body, invulnerability, and minor matter manipulation abilities should be able to counter anything Ronan throws at him.

When Ronan falls, Alpha now unleashes a psionic blast on anyone who still stands. With no mental defenses to speak of(except Deadpool, but Alpha can explodey his brain just as well as Cable), his team should fall like dominoes. Gilgamesh goes to help Hybrid with Paibok, as Magick II joins in at taking on the teleporters, or against Sunfire or Tag.

Exhausted from his out-of-control explosions, Nitro now falls to a simple blast from Black Bolt, or Alpha’s mindblast.

My team then dogpiles anyone who remains, except Blind Al. After the battle ends, humor ensues when Black Bolt attempts to communicate with Blind Al. Out of mercy, Magick II teleports her to the studio where “Matlock” is filmed.

[moonknight2099]

I voted for Thanos because I think by having his team teleport at random neither of Jared's attacks would work. And since his team stayed together besides Harbinger the Famine Burst would probably hit. You both had great stategys.

[Jared H.]

Really nice strat Thanos2099! I admit the initial teleportation move on your part nullfied both my one-shot-kill moves. However...

Sunfire's Famine blast affects ALL who see him. Yet Harbinger, Ajax II, Gilgamesh, Hybrid, and possibly Alpha, Black Bolt, and Aerio will be immune to its effects. Harbinger is made from Celestial tech, Gilgamesh is an External and does not require food, Hybrid's and alien shapeshifter, Alpha has evolved beyond food, and BB and Aerio have an altered physiology from being Inhumans.

Bishop, Nitro, Deadpool, etc, don't have any resistance to it, so they will fall victim to it as well.


The hypnotic attack likely will have the same results, as almost all of my team is resistant to mental manipulation(not to mention the fact that Bolt once created a hypnotic pattern of his own that mesmerized the Mandarin), and the fact that Paibok will have his hands full. Hybrid will not be affected by the hypnotic abilities, and Ajax has been shown to wear a robotic visor, which should protect him.

you also failed to counter to Nitro being taken out with bolt's electromagnetic trick, which puts him out of the fight and nullfies the usefulness of Tag in your strat.

Also, Deadpool can't kill Alpha with a bullet. Alpha has traded blows with the Hulk. He's practically invulnerable.

Your strat relies far too much on Blink and Pip's teleportation, while failing to protect either one from Black Bolt's assaut.

[Jeff-E]

Jared great strategy by the way, I was apprehensive about your team because I didn't have much knowledge of your characters, a couple of things however, Black Bolt making Nitro explode might not work, just because Ironman had prep time and a knowledge of Nitro doesn't mean that Bolt would know how to. Plus you also didn't really adress Blink, again she is a wild card with a very potent power. Also your initial attack calls for Bishop to do something he doesn't do, this creates another wild card variable in to the situation.

I kept everyone teleporting to avoid Sunfire's famine burst, as well as Paibok's hypnosis. Speaking of which it has been stated that the limits of his hypnosis aren't known, he was made as Super Skrulls successor, and for a while was the pennacle of Skrull genetic enginering. The only "negative" thing I can really say about your strat was it was kind of vague at times, and Ronan does have some resistance to telepathy, his cloak gives him resistance to telepathy, the ability to "float", and allows him to see different spectrums of light. However I think alot of the flaws in both of our plans was not fully knowing everything both our teams can do. That being said Good Luck.

[Jared H.]

Jared great strategy by the way, I was apprehensive about your team because I didn't have much knowledge of your characters, a couple of things however, Black Bolt making Nitro explode might not work, just because Ironman had prep time and a knowledge of Nitro doesn't mean that Bolt


Bolt has used spectral analyses to track Quicksilver's path, and is capable of analyzing matter. Finding the frequency to explode Ntro should be easy.

And as for Paibok's hypnosis, we're going by feats here. Just saying it's yet to be unquantified does not make it unstoppable. It means you have to find the best example fo it working and present that one as unshakeable.

[Jeff-E]

Bolt has used spectral analyses to track Quicksilver's path, and is capable of analyzing matter. Finding the frequency to explode Ntro should be easy.

And as for Paibok's hypnosis, we're going by feats here. Just saying it's yet to be unquantified does not make it unstoppable. It means you have to find the best example fo it working and present that one as unshakeable.

By that analysis then Bolt wouldn't be able to force nitro to explode as he's never handled someone like nitro, and analyzing Quicksilver's path is alot different then forcing someone to explode, especially under duress. Paibok has done mass hypnosis, so concentrating harder on smaller numbers shouldn't be out of his range of abilities. Plus like I said your strat leaves out Blink, and the initial salvo misses Bishop creating 2 wild cards, one that can move any piece on the board and the other who can absorb any energy directed his way.

[Jeff-E]

Votes? Opinions? Thoughts? Anyone?

[Jessica Drew]

Votes? Opinions? Thoughts? Anyone?

Still trying to work it out, but I'm tired. I'll probably wait until tomorrow, when I've a clearer mind to discern what would and wouldn't work for both strategies. Great job by both youzguyz, though.

[Atom_basher]

Still trying to work it out, but I'm tired. I'll probably wait until tomorrow, when I've a clearer mind to discern what would and wouldn't work for both strategies. Great job by both youzguyz, though.


Im pretty much right here with jessica, i gotta wrap my head around this

[Jared H.]

By that analysis then Bolt wouldn't be able to force nitro to explode as he's never handled someone like nitro, and analyzing Quicksilver's path is alot different then forcing someone to explode, especially under duress.

Bolt has created friggin antimatter in duress. analyzing and converting matter is a lot harder than simply broadcast electromagnetism.

Plus like I said your strat leaves out Blink

No it doesn't:

Black Bolt uses his faster-than human reflexes and senses to track the teleporters, and take them out with well-timed energy blasts. If needed, he’ll also snipe Ronan from a distance.


and

Magick II joins in at taking on the teleporters

Who exactly do you think I was talking about there? Note the plural.

[Jeff-E]

Magick II joins in at taking on the teleporters

I gotta go to work, but a couple of things though, 1) I think you may lend to much to BB, he may be powerful, but I don't know about tracking teleporters, and finding Nitro's frequency, and Blasting them. 2) this is what I was talking about being vague, how does she help out taking them out, what do they do, to just say it happens lends nothing to help discern what happens. 3) You even admited the initial salvo throws off your plan, so Bishop is still running around, and even if you did explode nitro, you're just powering up Bishop, as he could absorb the energy. He absorbed Trenton New Jersey's power, and a direct blast from Onslaught, and Maggneto's power in the past. Anyway, I gotta go, I'm late, and good luck to you today.

[Fooh01]

I have two questions about Jareds team, i was under the impression that Magik's magic isnt very powerful outside of Limbo, also isnt Alpha a HUGE pacifist, isnt using him offensively very unlike him?

[Jared H.]

Magick II joins in at taking on the teleporters

I gotta go to work, but a couple of things though, 1) I think you may lend to much to BB, he may be powerful, but I don't know about tracking teleporters, and finding Nitro's frequency, and Blasting them. 2) this is what I was talking about being vague, how does she help out taking them out, what do they do, to just say it happens lends nothing to help discern what happens. 3) You even admited the initial salvo throws off your plan, so Bishop is still running around, and even if you did explode nitro, you're just powering up Bishop, as he could absorb the energy. He absorbed Trenton New Jersey's power, and a direct blast from Onslaught, and Maggneto's power in the past. Anyway, I gotta go, I'm late, and good luck to you today.


1) Bolt doesn't do all these at the same time. he is perfectly cpable of doing all of these over the course of the battle

2) When there's such a massive power difference, it doesn't matter exactly how Amanda take sout Blink and Pip. she can teleport just as well as they can, and her magic makes her FAR more powerful than either.

3) I admitted that it ONLY throws off my one-hit kill attempts. The true meat of my strat follows this: Regardless of whether Thanos2099 teleports happens, the following actions occur:

So really, it doesn't affect my strat much.

[Jared H.]

I have two questions about Jareds team, i was under the impression that Magik's magic isnt very powerful outside of Limbo, also isnt Alpha a HUGE pacifist, isnt using him offensively very unlike him?


you're wrong about Magick II. You're thinking fo Illyana. My Magick is Amanda Sefton, aka formerly Daytripper, who was a powerful mage of the Winding Way LONG before she became Lord of Limbo.


Alpha also levitated the entire U.N. building out of the ground, sent a concrete army against the X-men, fought Hulk hand-to-hand, and de-aged the Brotherhood to infants. I don't have him doing anything these matches that is outside of the demeanor that those feats suggest.

[Fooh01]

Alpha also levitated the entire U.N. building out of the ground, sent a concrete army against the X-men, fought Hulk hand-to-hand, and de-aged the Brotherhood to infants. I don't have him doing anything these matches that is outside of the demeanor that those feats suggest.


But arent these all before he bacame a pacffist

[Jared H.]

But arent these all before he bacame a pacffist

I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the Futurist, not Alpha. Both were captured by the Stranger, but Alpha never swore off violence or anything.

[Fooh01]

I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the Futurist, not Alpha. Both were captured by the Stranger, but Alpha never swore off violence or anything.


im fairly sure alpha swore of violence before he left for space, this is even before the stranger captured him, it was the same time he turned magneto to a baby so he could learn a lesson

[Jessica Drew]

After poring over this information, I'll first say this: the match could really go either way. Since I have to vote for one though, I'll vote for Jared, if only because most of his team would not be hypnotized so easily. Still, great strategy from both, and the hardest time I've had deciding a match so far.

[Jared H.]

Congrats Thanos2099, and great match!

I look forward to facing you again soon.

[Atom_basher]

crap, i didnt vote

[Jeff-E]

Jared, if you read this GREAT MATCH, I'm really surprised that I got the votes! I look forward to facing you again, and next time I'll deffinetly step it up a bit, as I know you will!

[Magneto_X]

After reading all the stuff Jared pulls off in RPG's on Rumbles Thanos2099 doesn't stand a chance.

[Dark Soul # 7]

After reading all the stuff Jared pulls off in RPG's on Rumbles Thanos2099 doesn't stand a chance.But he did.
In fact he won.