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Jack Zodiac

09-20-2006, 11:45 PM

Crazy week, this week!

It begins with Supernova breaking into Wayne Manor and the Batcave. Everything's covered up and nobody (apparently Alfred went on the trip with them?) is around. In the Batcave, he starts uncovering certain things, including Penguin's umbrellas, Robin's (I think Jason's) old costume, and finally, Luthor's kryptonite gauntlet (with blue, red, green, and black kryptonite). What Bruce is doing with it, I don't know, but the fact that Supernova's looking for it doesn't lend heavily to his credibility as a hero.

I'm thinking Supernova might actually be another clone of Kon-El, given even more powers by Luthor's Everyman Project, which is why Cassie thought it was him.

In Metropolis, we finally see Steel again as he keeps a burning building from collapsing while firemen rescue everyone inside. After the building goes down on top of him, the firemen thank him and John responds by saying that with Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman gone, it's time everyone did their part to help. Then Kala shows up with interesting news about Luthor's metagene therapy. He can, apparently, take away the powers he's given remotely.

Back in space, The Main Man's preaching to his flock as some wave of aliens attacks their little patchwork society. Of course, because of his vows, he can't act against them and tries to get everyone to pray to the Triple-Fish God. Buddy, Kory, and Adam fight back as they can until Lobo's eaten alive by alien pirahna and drops the Emerald Eye of Ekron. One unfortunate alien attempts to use it, but winds up killing themself and everyone near them. Then Kory uses it, killing the aliens attacking them, but alerting something off in space. A giant alien skull-ship with tusks, mechanical legs, a domed head with what looks like a driver, and one green eye.

Everyone cheers because they feel like they're safe now, but Lobo has some grim news for them as he crawls back to life out of his own blood. He rips the Eye out of Kory's hands and tells them all to get ready to leave immediately, because the longer they stay there the more danger they're putting those aliens in. As they're leaving, the heroes ask him what's going on, and he responds with, "Where didja think the all-powerful Emerald Eye of Ekron came from? It was ripped right out of the Emerald Head of Ekron. And he'll tear th' cosmos apart ta get it back."

I'm really starting to love the space odyssey! :) And this week's origin was Adam Strange, by Waid and Kevin Nowlan. Nice, quick, basic story of an archeologist teleported to an alien world to become its hero and *ahem!* help... repopulate their race.

What'd you guys think of this week?

The Adventurer

09-21-2006, 12:04 AM

Paul Newell

09-21-2006, 12:23 AM

I'm trying to figure out Lobo's angle here, has he really converted to a non-violent sect? Because when he took down the Pursuer that didn't seem very non-violent. Then is he pretending? If so, why is he bothering with these poor dieing shmucks on the planet? It's just though to see what his objective is here.
Though you don't see it, Lobo blamed the Pursuers death on a trap laid to kill the Main Man. He didn't kill Devilance....Apparently.

Paragon

09-21-2006, 01:56 AM

Strange, there seems to be some kind of 'eye' undercurrent going on here.

Adam Strange has no eyes, Alan Scott has a borrowed eye (from Adam), the head of Ekron has one eye, the other in possession of lobo.

What's next: beholders and cyclopes?

Cassius6303

09-21-2006, 07:10 AM

Coupla things this week that I noticed.

First off, please note that Lobo referred to Adam's and Co.'s ship as "Stone Age spaceship", seemingly supporting my theory that the are in a divergent timeline. This explains Lobo's (possible) pacifisim and the space dolphin with the ability to communicate.

What the head says is a cryptogram (as pointed out on 52 Pickup). I believe it says:

I will
kill you in
a weyq!

Now change weyq to week and we have a bit of foreshadowing...

As for Supernova, I still think it's Ambush Bug. :D However, I think that two of the items (Jason's Robin costume and the glove) both reflect changes to Pre-IC continuity.

Could be wrong tho'.

Jamie

TheTen-EyedMan

09-21-2006, 07:44 AM

H.G. Wells time.

One eyed man in the country of the blind.

Ian J.N.

09-21-2006, 08:29 AM

First off, please note that Lobo referred to Adam's and Co.'s ship as "Stone Age spaceship", seemingly supporting my theory that the are in a divergent timeline.
... or my theory that they're in the future. :)

Jack

09-21-2006, 08:51 AM

Still thinking Supernova is Rip Hunter. He knows where the Batcave is and that the gauntlet is in there, and my impression is that he knows that it will be needed. A Kryptonian of any sort is unlikely to handle Kryptonite, so I doubt he's actually Kon.

I like the idea of it being Rip, because then his powers aren't the obvious teleportation but temporal manipulation instead.

Cassius6303

09-21-2006, 08:58 AM

... or my theory that they're in the future. :)

The theory that Constant and I have about the space heroes being in the future. ;)

Jamie

Joe Acro

09-21-2006, 09:08 AM

...Alan Scott has a borrowed eye (from Adam)...

Alan Scott's borrowed eye is from Adam? Why is it green, then? (And, no, I don't mean his green eye in JSA.)

Deadpooligan

09-21-2006, 11:40 AM

Didn't like this issue as much as 19, but it's still a great read.

Can someone explain to me the significance of the gauntlet Supernova uncovered in the Batcave?

Joe Acro

09-21-2006, 11:49 AM

Didn't like this issue as much as 19, but it's still a great read.

Can someone explain to me the significance of the gauntlet Supernova uncovered in the Batcave?
The gauntlet is one Lex made using multiple types of Kryptonite, which he had acquired from remains of a giant meteor. The gauntlet was seen in the Superman/Batman and in the Teen Titans/Outsiders crossover story. Despite having different colored Kryptonite on it, the gauntlet appeared to only have the effect of regular Kryptonite. It isn't really significant except that, like many things, it could be a problem in the wrong hands.

Bored at 3:00AM

09-21-2006, 12:21 PM

The gauntlet is one Lex made using multiple types of Kryptonite, which he had acquired from remains of a giant meteor. The gauntlet was seen in the Superman/Batman and in the Teen Titans/Outsiders crossover story. Despite having different colored Kryptonite on it, the gauntlet appeared to only have the effect of regular Kryptonite. It isn't really significant except that, like many things, it could be a problem in the wrong hands.

Luthor used the Multi-Kryptonite Power Glove on Supergirl during the end of Loeb's run. He used the black kryptonite to release "Evil Kara".

I'm hooked by this series again. The Lost in Space subplot is really cool. That funky Brianiac-type skullship thingy looks wicked. The Head of Eckron?

Can someone give me a brief run down on the history of the Emerald Eye? What the heck is it?

Ian J.N.

09-21-2006, 12:39 PM

The gauntlet is one Lex made using multiple types of Kryptonite, which he had acquired from remains of a giant meteor. The gauntlet was seen in the Superman/Batman and in the Teen Titans/Outsiders crossover story. Despite having different colored Kryptonite on it, the gauntlet appeared to only have the effect of regular Kryptonite. It isn't really significant except that, like many things, it could be a problem in the wrong hands.
I wonder if maybe the gauntlet is in the right hands. I'm thinking the lab results Kala showed John (but not us) indicate a susceptibility to kryptonite--Luthor's been using Kryptonian DNA in the Everyman Project. Supernova knows this somehow and has borrowed the kryptonite gauntlet as a fail safe of his own.

derekwc

09-21-2006, 12:59 PM

Luthor used the Multi-Kryptonite Power Glove on Supergirl during the end of Loeb's run. He used the black kryptonite to release "Evil Kara".

I'm hooked by this series again. The Lost in Space subplot is really cool. That funky Brianiac-type skullship thingy looks wicked. The Head of Eckron?

Can someone give me a brief run down on the history of the Emerald Eye? What the heck is it?
The Emerald Empress is a fictional DC Comics supervillain, an enemy of the Legion of Super-Heroes and a member of the Fatal Five. She was created by Jim Shooter and Curt Swan, and first appeared in Adventure Comics #352 (January, 1967). In her first appearance, Sarya of the planet Venegar (referred to simply as 'the Empress') was recruited by Superboy and the Legion to combat the menace of the Sun-Eater. Once the Sun-Eater was defeated, she joined the Fatal Five with Tharok, Validus, Mano and the Persuader.

The Empress had no innate super-powers; rather, she employed a powerful mystical item called the Emerald Eye of Ekron, a large sphere that obeyed her mental commands. The Eye could fly and emit blasts of energy, and allowed the Empress to fly as well as survive in space. The Eye's residual energy also gave her, on at least one occasion, super-strength. It caused her to grow to gigantic stature during one battle.

The Emerald Empress died in Legion of Super-Heroes (3rd series) #58 when Legionnaire Sensor Girl used her powers of illusion to mask Sarya's presence from the Eye of Ekron. As the Empress' body quickly withered and decomposed, she expressed relief to be free from the Eye's control, indicating both that their symbiotic relationship was unwilling and that the Empress was far older than she appeared.

A second Emerald Empress named Cera Kesh first appeared in Legionnaires #2. Her affections spurned by Legion member Sun Boy, Kesh fell under the Emerald Eye's influence and turned to a life of crime with the other members of the Fatal Five. At the same time, Leland McCauley found a second Emerald Eye with which he hoped to turn his girlfriend into the new Emerald Empress. Instead, Cera killed her and gained the power of both Eyes.

After the Zero Hour event and the subsequent reboot of the Legion's continuity, a character simply called the 'Empress' appeared, unconnected to the Eye of Ekron (which appeared separately later). Although she had no powers, she was as dangerous as the rest of the Fatal Five, being a sadistic murderess who had taught herself how to kill any known lifeform.

The Eye was discovered by Legionnaire Kinetix, but later fell under the control of (or controlled) Shrinking Violet. With the Legion's help, Violet managed to break the Eye's hold on her, but not before she had sent half the team into the past.

Eventually, the Eye came into the hands of the Empress. The Empress seemed to have broken the Eye's will, leaving her unequivically in control.

The Emerald Eye also appeared in L.E.G.I.O.N., where it was controlled by, or controlled, the L.E.G.I.O.N.naire Garryn Bek.

In the present, the Emerald Eye was appeared in the pages of 52, in the posession of Lobo.
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Other media

The Emerald Empress has appeared in an episode of Justice League Unlimited with the other Fatal Five against the Legion. She was voiced by Joanne Whalley.

In the upcoming Legion of Super-Heroes series, she will be voiced by Jennifer Hale.

Peter M.

09-21-2006, 02:10 PM

I'm trying to figure out Lobo's angle here, has he really converted to a non-violent sect? Because when he took down the Pursuer that didn't seem very non-violent.

Well the Pursuer is another God, I'm sure Lobo and him perhaps had something of a religious difference.

Joe Acro

09-21-2006, 02:15 PM

The Emerald Empress is a fictional DC Comics supervillain, an enemy of the Legion of Super-Heroes and a member of the Fatal Five. She was created by Jim Shooter and Curt Swan, and first appeared in Adventure Comics #352 (January, 1967). In her first appearance, Sarya of the planet Venegar (referred to simply as 'the Empress') was recruited by Superboy and the Legion to combat the menace of the Sun-Eater. Once the Sun-Eater was defeated, she joined the Fatal Five with Tharok, Validus, Mano and the Persuader.

The Empress had no innate super-powers; rather, she employed a powerful mystical item called the Emerald Eye of Ekron, a large sphere that obeyed her mental commands. The Eye could fly and emit blasts of energy, and allowed the Empress to fly as well as survive in space. The Eye's residual energy also gave her, on at least one occasion, super-strength. It caused her to grow to gigantic stature during one battle.

The Emerald Empress died in Legion of Super-Heroes (3rd series) #58 when Legionnaire Sensor Girl used her powers of illusion to mask Sarya's presence from the Eye of Ekron. As the Empress' body quickly withered and decomposed, she expressed relief to be free from the Eye's control, indicating both that their symbiotic relationship was unwilling and that the Empress was far older than she appeared.

A second Emerald Empress named Cera Kesh first appeared in Legionnaires #2. Her affections spurned by Legion member Sun Boy, Kesh fell under the Emerald Eye's influence and turned to a life of crime with the other members of the Fatal Five. At the same time, Leland McCauley found a second Emerald Eye with which he hoped to turn his girlfriend into the new Emerald Empress. Instead, Cera killed her and gained the power of both Eyes.

After the Zero Hour event and the subsequent reboot of the Legion's continuity, a character simply called the 'Empress' appeared, unconnected to the Eye of Ekron (which appeared separately later). Although she had no powers, she was as dangerous as the rest of the Fatal Five, being a sadistic murderess who had taught herself how to kill any known lifeform.

The Eye was discovered by Legionnaire Kinetix, but later fell under the control of (or controlled) Shrinking Violet. With the Legion's help, Violet managed to break the Eye's hold on her, but not before she had sent half the team into the past.

Eventually, the Eye came into the hands of the Empress. The Empress seemed to have broken the Eye's will, leaving her unequivically in control.

The Emerald Eye also appeared in L.E.G.I.O.N., where it was controlled by, or controlled, the L.E.G.I.O.N.naire Garryn Bek.

In the present, the Emerald Eye was appeared in the pages of 52, in the posession of Lobo.
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Other media

The Emerald Empress has appeared in an episode of Justice League Unlimited with the other Fatal Five against the Legion. She was voiced by Joanne Whalley.

In the upcoming Legion of Super-Heroes series, she will be voiced by Jennifer Hale.That was both robbed from Wikipedia and mainly about Emerald Empress.

sly_kat

09-21-2006, 02:16 PM

so doesnt anyone else think perhaps the head of Ekron was the one manipulating the eyes.... trying out both of Alan Scot's eyes and one of Adam Strange's?

Cassius6303

09-21-2006, 02:51 PM

To me, the head of Ekron looks like a spaceship itself. That certainly looks like a pilot in the dome up top.

Jamie

DoctorDoom

09-21-2006, 02:58 PM

I have a feelin as soon as 'fishy' dies, Lobo will just cut loose.

Steve Brady

09-21-2006, 03:34 PM

The Emerald Head.... that just seems like one of those Morrison ideas that's so obvious you can't figure why no one ever thought of it.

That top part's either a cockpit, or just his brain.

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/001739/52_wk20_04.jpg

Cassius6303

09-21-2006, 03:48 PM

Is that Metron's Chair inside of it?

Jamie

derekwc

09-21-2006, 04:04 PM

That was both robbed from Wikipedia and mainly about Emerald Empress.

and? copy and paste is frowned upon by you?:confused:

Bored at 3:00am asked about the history behind the eye.

Kinda goes without saying that you'd bring up the Emerald Empress.

Joe Acro

09-21-2006, 04:17 PM

and? copy and paste is frowned upon by you?:confused:

Kinda goes without saying that you'd bring up the Emerald Empress.
It's just that parts of the article, when describing the Emerald Eye, are irrelevant, specifically paragraphs one and five and the "Other Media" section. And I don't mind copy and paste; I just want things to be cited.

derekwc

09-21-2006, 04:22 PM

It's just that parts of the article, when describing the Emerald Eye, are irrelevant, specifically paragraphs one and five and the "Other Media" section. And I don't mind copy and paste; I just want things to be cited.

Sorry. The board I usually go to, frowns on linking and will usually just copy/paste the article in question--so I guess I got used to doing that myself.

As to irrelevancy, I guess, if all you wanna know about is web-shooters and
NOT who uses them the majority of their history...

EZMOHR

09-21-2006, 04:26 PM

Is that Metron's Chair inside of it?

Jamie

Dude, I was totally thinking that when I saw it. Plus, the head looks like Darkseid's dad sorta...what was his name? Yuga Khan I think.

Autonomy

09-21-2006, 04:35 PM

good issue, but i guess I am the only one that is bored of this Space Oddity...

Enough! I dont care about Lobo anymore, there I SAID IT!

I want my mommy. :eek:

Jack

09-21-2006, 04:47 PM

Dude, I was totally thinking that when I saw it. Plus, the head looks like Darkseid's dad sorta...what was his name? Yuga Khan I think.
Maybe Ekron is (was?) a New God.

Dr.Geekibus

09-21-2006, 05:56 PM

You're not alone. I am not as interested in the lobo story as I am by Dibney, Supernova, Steel, Question and Montoyas.

I also don't understand the whole "lobo regeneration" thing. If he can completely regenerate himself from a single drop of blood, then why weren't there about ten thousand Lobos regenerating from all the droplets of blood cast off into the wind by the attack of the things.

I don't buy the Supernova=Ambush Bug. The character was always too silly for me. It would be like Deadpool or Foolkiller impersonating Captain America for any length of time. Just doesn't track for me, sorry.

Was anyone surprised by Luthor having a 'reversal switch' on his Everyman Project? I figured it was either that or some sort of mental control over anyone who's been through the process. Or both.

Count Vertigo

09-21-2006, 07:31 PM

I missed some parts of IC like the Zeta Beam incident (still catching up on the crossover issues) but isn't the green in GL's eye socket from his daughter, Jade?

Jkid099

09-21-2006, 08:18 PM

No, as Jade died prior to reality shockwave that caused Alan Scott to lose his eye. All of Jade's essence went into Kyle Rayner. It hasn't been revealed WHOSE eye Alan received, although it was suggested that it was Adam Strange's.

Count Vertigo

09-21-2006, 08:21 PM

Ahhh! I gotcha! So what's this I heard some time ago that allows GL to see ghost auras or something?

Edit: Never mind. Someone just msg'ed me this link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott#Infinite_Crisis_and_.22One_Year_Later.2 2

Jack Zodiac

09-21-2006, 08:51 PM

The theory that Constant and I have about the space heroes being in the future. ;)

Jamie

I'm thinking that's an incredibly great possibility, considering that I can't ever recall Emerald Empress coming to the present and leaving without her Eye.

Jack Zodiac

09-21-2006, 08:52 PM

Alan Scott's borrowed eye is from Adam? Why is it green, then? (And, no, I don't mean his green eye in JSA.)

I thought it was blue? :confused: It looked blue in the issue after the space heroes returned to Earth.

rexcase

09-21-2006, 09:01 PM

another thought here :
supernova is going for a gauntlet filled with types of kryptonite, which is apparently a vital ingredient in devem's little ressurection ritual.
i don't really have any other theories besides that little tidbit, perhaps typing those two storylines together.

Jack Zodiac

09-21-2006, 09:08 PM

Can someone give me a brief run down on the history of the Emerald Eye? What the heck is it?

It first showed up in the hands of The Emerald Empress of The Fatal Five back in the Sixties. She found it on her home planet of Venegar and used it's nearly unlimited power to become its ruler until the entire population rose against her. After that, she took to space to roam the universe in search of more power, which is how the Eye eventually hooked her up with other villains to form The Fatal Five.

After a while, it was revealed that The Emerald Eye of Ekron used human hosts as puppets, and that it was capable of acting on its own when it wanted to, even talking sometimes. It sought out hosts who felt week or desired more power and used their emotions to control them, which is how it chose The Empress in the first place. Over time, it was hinted that The Eye belonged to a number of beings. Mordru and Sensor Girl both connected it to an ancient race of magicians, while The Eye itself connected with Krypton after The Legion was able to subdue it with Kryptonite on a couple of occassions.

That might explain the way the head looks. It's got a Brainiac feel to it, while maintaining an organic and eerie presence. Honestly, there's never been a very good explanation about The Eye, just that it's ridiculously powerful and that it uses people. Now that I think about it, though, it did show up for a while in L.E.G.I.O.N., back when Giffen was writing it in the Eighties. Which makes sense, sort of, since he was also writing The Legion of Super-Heroes around that time. It wasn't evil then, though, and Garryn used it a lot until it burnt itself out and disappeared.

Jack Zodiac

09-21-2006, 09:11 PM

I also don't understand the whole "lobo regeneration" thing. If he can completely regenerate himself from a single drop of blood, then why weren't there about ten thousand Lobos regenerating from all the droplets of blood cast off into the wind by the attack of the things.

That's happened before. In Young Justice, during "Our Worlds at War," Li'l Lobo was completely blown apart by Parademons, and each drop of his blood became a new Lobo. They wiped out every Parademon on Apokolips during the battle and then fought each other to the death until only one true Lobo remained- the Lobo we have today (and also one "runt" who became Slo-bo). I'm guessing Giffen just wanted to have Lobo pull himself steaming out of a pool of his own blood, is all. :p

Peter M.

09-21-2006, 09:54 PM

To me, the head of Ekron looks like a spaceship itself. That certainly looks like a pilot in the dome up top.

Jamie One wonders what exactly happened to the original body upon which the head rested.

Joe Acro

09-21-2006, 10:15 PM

I thought it was blue? :confused: It looked blue in the issue after the space heroes returned to Earth.
Even if I remember the color wrong, it still couldn't be Adam's.

And if the space guys are in the future, doesn't that sort of go against the premise to 52?

jetter_cheeze

09-21-2006, 11:43 PM

what if Supernova is really Jason Todd with Luthor's Everyman Project?

Dr.Geekibus

09-22-2006, 12:26 AM

But I thought Jason Todd was showing up in Nightwing oyl? Oy, my head's starting to hurt with all the various possibilities for Supernova. And there's 32 more weeks of this. :evilsmile

wes_rk

09-22-2006, 02:20 AM

Supernova could be Jason Todd... Lex gave him powers, then asked him if he knew where the gauntlet filled with different types of kryptonite was.. Jason said yes, Lex said bring it to me, and that's why we see Supernova in the cave..
Then, a few weeks later, Lex takes the power away from Jason (and everybody else too), and Jason decides to be Nightwing for a few days.

I doubt this is what happens, but it could explan things if Jason turns out to be Supernova.

Cassius6303

09-22-2006, 07:22 AM

Dude, I was totally thinking that when I saw it. Plus, the head looks like Darkseid's dad sorta...what was his name? Yuga Khan I think.

Yes! It was Yuga Khan! I've wondered why Ekron looked so familiar. It's not a total likeness but it's pretty darn close. And the head is so big because it's a regular sized New God....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Yuga.jpg

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/001739/52_wk20_04.jpg

Jamie

Dr.Geekibus

09-22-2006, 08:32 AM

So far the only one of these theories that feels right to me is the Daniel Carter=Supernova. If he has knowledge of the future, he'd know where the Batcave is and would know about the gauntlet. Perhaps he'd even have some purpose for it (stopping Luthor's Everyman Soldiers).

I actually think the visit to the Batcave was a red herring intended to make you think it was Jason Todd.

Anyway, I always had the impression that the Emerald Eye was some sort of artifact, even gem based. Possibly from the gem-world? So does that argue for the eye being a power source in the space ship?

TheTen-EyedMan

09-22-2006, 08:55 AM

Someone wake me when it's over.

I know I'm supposed to hate 52 because there being a lack of icons in it but 52 is slowly overtaking Ann Coulter in my top 10.

And that's an achievement.

BoosterBronze

09-22-2006, 06:47 PM

I noticed a distinct lack of Booster Gold being resurrected this issue.

Dr.Geekibus

09-22-2006, 06:50 PM

I'd like to see Booster and Ted Kord stay dead. Perhaps they could be buried in adjoining plots somewhere on the island of Kooey Kooey Kooey. And when the natives started to dig the graves they could accidentally discover a cave full of hidden gold and gems. Ahhhhhh.....sweeet irony

Doc

Count Vertigo

09-22-2006, 07:00 PM

Squashua

09-23-2006, 02:25 PM

Whew... I sure am glad it didn't urn out to be Alan's Scott's missing eyeball.

Missing eyeballs. Alan is missing both of his eyes. He states that the eye he has is not his own. The eye that he has is probably one of Adam Strange's eyes, but possibly not.

solid-one-love

09-23-2006, 02:45 PM

I'm gonna go out on a limb here: Supernova is Bolt.

Both have teleportation and energy powers. Both have a plotline link to Luthor's armor (Bolt was hired to acquire it in Identity Crisis #1, and Supernova finds the glove in the Batcave in 52 #20). And Bolt has barely been seen since Identity Crisis and has motivation to change his life after being shot.

Odds are 100 to 1, sure. But it fits.

Count Vertigo

09-23-2006, 02:47 PM

That's a great theory and it makes sense. I always did like Bolt especially his run in Suicide Squad (Ostrander NOT Giffen). The only time I've seen Bolt was in Villains United when he, Stinger and King Shark were beaten up by Solomon Grundy. He had a great quote "Oh great blazing bags of crap!"

edit: What if it's Airwave III? He could've reformed himself.

Count Vertigo

09-23-2006, 02:55 PM

No, one eye. Adam is missing both his eyes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott#Infinite_Crisis_and_.22One_Year_Later.2 2
His missing eye was later replaced by a portion of his daughter Jade's mystic green energy. After being put into a comatose state during an attack by the Gentleman Ghost, Jade appeared to him, told him goodbye and granted him another portion of her green energy. His missing eye is currently replaced by a green glowing orb that, due to its mystical origins and connection to Jade, allows him to track astral and mystical energy forms such as ghosts.

DonC

09-23-2006, 04:55 PM

Joe Acro

09-23-2006, 05:20 PM

Actually, when Alan returns from the space mission, he has two eyes, one being a very odd color. (I believed it be green, but another poster has stated it was blue.) Alan does not receive another eye from Jade. He simply gains an ability involving ghosts. I believe this was the ability to track the Gentleman Ghost, though I'm not sure.

Squashua

09-23-2006, 07:12 PM

No, one eye. Adam is missing both his eyes.

I shouldn't have to argue this one, so someone else is going to have to back this up with evidence:

Alan Scott arrives on Earth during 52. He has one eye. He states in that issue or a subsequent issue that the eye that he has is not his original eye; it's someone else's eye.

Meaning that Alan Scott (Green Lantern) lost both of his original eyes; they're both missing. The working eye that he does have is someone else's. Speculation is that it's one of Adam Strange's two missing eyes, but it certainly could be one of Jade's eyes.

K'Nort

09-23-2006, 08:42 PM

Someone wake me when it's over.

I know I'm supposed to hate 52 because there being a lack of icons in it but 52 is slowly overtaking Ann Coulter in my top 10.

And that's an achievement.

It's no Civil War.

Thank goodness.

Then Kala shows up with interesting news about Luthor's metagene therapy. He can, apparently, take away the powers he's given remotely.

I got the impression that the idea is Luthor can take away any metagene, not just the ones he has bestowed.

Count Vertigo

09-23-2006, 10:18 PM

It's no Civil War. Thank goodness.

Best...
quote...
EVER!

sly_kat

09-24-2006, 11:38 AM

I got the impression that the idea is Luthor can take away any metagene, not just the ones he has bestowed.

Luthors lucky hes got all those scientists;) and one giant animal zoo..

Cassius6303

09-24-2006, 09:35 PM

I shouldn't have to argue this one, so someone else is going to have to back this up with evidence:

Alan Scott arrives on Earth during 52. He has one eye. He states in that issue or a subsequent issue that the eye that he has is not his original eye; it's someone else's eye.

Meaning that Alan Scott (Green Lantern) lost both of his original eyes; they're both missing. The working eye that he does have is someone else's. Speculation is that it's one of Adam Strange's two missing eyes, but it certainly could be one of Jade's eyes.

Which could become the eyes of Ekron in the distant future, thanks to the power of the Starheart. How they show up in the past for L.E.G.I.O.N., I've no idea.

Jamie

Jack Zodiac

09-24-2006, 09:42 PM

PretenderNX01

09-25-2006, 02:49 AM

Anybody notice how the cover of 52 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9d/52twenty.jpg) looks like the cover of the Daredevil (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000959N0.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg) Movie?

Look at Kory then at Jennifer Garner.

Joe Acro

09-25-2006, 07:09 AM

I didn't until there was a thing about it in Lying in the Gutters. So, I'm sure plenty of people know.

Paul McEnery

09-26-2006, 05:10 PM

J.G. Jones says he had his wife model the pose just like the movie poster, so he could get the action movie feel.

He does not say how often he gets his wife to pose like action movie posters, or whether he makes her wear the outfit. :D

Cassius6303

09-27-2006, 07:27 AM

Actually, in L.E.G.I.O.N., the Eye was recovered on an alien planet, in-continuity, meaning it's existed outside of Ekron's eye socket since well before The Emerald Empress ever possessed it, and quite possibly well before Garryn found it on the stranded ship.

Jack, that's what I was getting at. It just wasn't very clear. If they are indeed the eyes of Alan Scott, they had to have been sent into the past at some point otherwise those stories won't make a lot of sense. But seeing as how I still think these heroes are in the far future and we have all these time issues hinted at, it's entirely possible that they will end up being sent back.

We know from past explanations of the Starheart, it's not been the nicest of entities....

Jamie

ForEverAncien

09-28-2006, 12:17 AM

Steve Wacker has left DC (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=85645), effective immediately as of yesterday.

He is working for Marvel.

Now, what does that mean for the series?

Jack Zodiac

09-28-2006, 12:24 AM

New, possibly less fun editor letting the writers do the same job they've been doing for over five months?

StrikeForce Albert

09-28-2006, 04:47 AM

Steve Wacker has left DC (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=85645), effective immediately as of yesterday.

He is working for Marvel.

Now, what does that mean for the series?

not a damn thing

Shellhead

09-28-2006, 03:41 PM

It always seemed to me that the Emerald Eye functioned somewhat like a Green Lantern ring, so it actually makes sense if Ekron somehow acquired these Eyes in the aftermath of that weird space accident involving Alan Scott and the other heroes. Especially if Ekron is connected to the New Gods, because the New Gods seem to be involved with 52 in several ways, including the Intergang subplot. I like the theory that the space-travelling heroes may be in the future, because it would fit in with the "time is broken" theme from the Booster Gold storyline.

Is there any chance that Supernova is Batman from one million years in the future? IIRC, Grant Morrison wrote that storyline too, and there was the recent 52 reference to one million AD, when Skeets made that second visit to Rip Hunter's bunker.