Voltes V

[Mystique's Rogue]

What do you guys of the Japanese cartoon series Voltes V?

[Drew Van T.]

70's Mecha, right? Not to sound prejudiced, but it's almost certainly a pale imitation of Go Nagai's creations.

[Mystique's Rogue]

70's Mecha, right? Not to sound prejudiced, but it's almost certainly a pale imitation of Go Nagai's creations.

Was that Japanese as well?

[Drew Van T.]

Yes. Nagai made the original, grandaddy mechas: Mazinger and Grendizer.

http://www.lacoctelera.com/myfiles/chicadelatele/mazinger.jpghttp://maryjulie.free.fr/image/goldorak.jpg

If you liked that Voltes V, you should probably check them out.

[Buried Alien]

VOLTES V was itself derived from an earlier robot anime (that preceded it by very little time...a year at most) known as COMBATTLER V. VOLTES V wasn't a sequel to COMBATTLER V, but you wouldn't know it from the similar character/mecha designs. They could have put these two series together much more convincingly than the two series that comprised VOLTRON, or the three series that comprised ROBOTECH.


http://www.lacoctelera.com/myfiles/chicadelatele/mazinger.jpg


Great image, but since when was Mazinger Z that BIG? It's supposed to be around 18 meters tall. :)


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[Drew Van T.]

Great image, but since when was Mazinger Z that BIG? It's supposed to be around 18 meters tall. :)

It's, um, a retcon. :D

We're still waiting for the movie(s), of course. There is a pretty cool fan-made trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9i71aL6iRo)...

[chojinlocke]

That looks awesome! is there a wallpaper sized version (1024 or higher)? I have a cool Gundam book with pics like that mazinger one, I wish there was one for Raideen, Votoms, and Dougram. I love mech shows the 70's and 80's were so iconic.

[Mystique's Rogue]

Yes. Nagai made the original, grandaddy mechas: Mazinger and Grendizer.

http://www.lacoctelera.com/myfiles/chicadelatele/mazinger.jpghttp://maryjulie.free.fr/image/goldorak.jpg

If you liked that Voltes V, you should probably check them out.

Well I thought, the people who brought us Mazinger Z were the people who brought us Voltes V so how can it be said that Voltes V is just a rip-off of Mazinger if they were made by the same creative minds?

[Drew Van T.]

That looks awesome! is there a wallpaper sized version (1024 or higher)?

I didn't see one while googling the image, but there are bigger versions than the one I posted in there.

Well I thought, the people who brought us Mazinger Z were the people who brought us Voltes V so how can it be said that Voltes V is just a rip-off of Mazinger if they were made by the same creative minds?

"Rip-off" is too harsh; I only speculated that it was a derivative anime. What I did was look at the AnimeNewsNetwork entry, I saw that Nagai's name isn't in there, and that Voltes V is from 1977...

[Buried Alien]

ALL robot anime is derivative of early works such as MIGHTY ATOM and TETSUJIN 28. That being said, up through the 1970s and maybe even into the early 1980s, quite a few new robot anime series brought new innovations (i.e. transformability, being able to separate into parts, etc.) to the genre (which have since become cliches). MAZINGER Z was a watermark, and so were RAIDEEN, COMBATTLER V, GUNDAM, MACROSS, EVANGELION, etc. For every new innovation, there will be a dozen lame derivatives, but that's the nature of genres.

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[Drew Van T.]

ALL robot anime is derivative of early works such as MIGHTY ATOM and TETSUJIN 28. That being said, up through the 1970s and maybe even into the early 1980s, quite a few new robot anime series brought new innovations (i.e. transformability, being able to separate into parts, etc.) to the genre (which have since become cliches). MAZINGER Z was a watermark, and so were RAIDEEN, COMBATTLER V, GUNDAM, MACROSS, EVANGELION, etc. For every new innovation, there will be a dozen lame derivatives, but that's the nature of genres.

Absolutely. I maintain that anyone interested in 70's mecha should look towards Mazinger and Grendizer before anything else, however, just as modern mecha fans ought to start with Evangelion (or Gundam, but that's from another decade)...

[Mystique's Rogue]

I didn't see one while googling the image, but there are bigger versions than the one I posted in there.



"Rip-off" is too harsh; I only speculated that it was a derivative anime. What I did was look at the AnimeNewsNetwork entry, I saw that Nagai's name isn't in there, and that Voltes V is from 1977...

I thought so too. I was about to change it but you said "pale imitation." Not to argue but that was a little harsh too.