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Doombot330
09-07-2006, 11:01 PM
I've been wondering lately about the continuity wiht wolverine. He has a civil war arc, he's in astonishing x-men, new avengers and then wolverine:orgins. Where exactly does Wolvering:orgins fit into the continity of the rest of the MU.
Beast
09-07-2006, 11:04 PM
You just have to fudge things around. Remember, even though a storyline in a book takes say 6-Issues to tell, doesn't mean it takes 6-Months of comic time. Wolverine's impact in New Avengers isn't really that big, for the most part. And as for Astonishing X-Men, supposedly it's set after Civil War.
Doombot330
09-07-2006, 11:10 PM
You just have to fudge things around. Remember, even though a storyline in a book takes say 6-Issues to tell, doesn't mean it takes 6-Months of comic time. Wolverine's impact in New Avengers isn't really that big, for the most part. And as for Astonishing X-Men, supposedly it's set after Civil War.
Right I understand the time an arc takes but I'm just confused as to when Wolverine Orgins takes place. As far as astonishing goes how can it possibly be taking place after Civi War. Granted I haven't read the most recent issue but does that mean the first two arcs took place before Civil War and the recent arc takes place after???
Frodo-X
09-07-2006, 11:36 PM
They say that Astonishing is after Civil War. That's our only basis for thinking that, they told us. Really Astonishing is almost like it's own world because it rarely interacts with anything else. Origins isn't really going along Civil War either because Cap was just in it and said nothing of CW. Plus, half of Origins is told in flashback anyway, so it also has little to do with current continuity.
So the short answer is: Origins and Astonishing are not specifically related to any other ongoing titles. Wolverine and New Avengers are part of Civil War.
Doombot330
09-07-2006, 11:40 PM
Ok I guess I can accept that. I basically read the entire astonishing X-men series the last two nights. I love it but where it fell in the timeline confuesed me. I still think it makes no sense for it to fall after civil war. It would seem that the whole series so far hasn't taken up much time so it would seem to make more sense if it cam before civil war.
Beast
09-07-2006, 11:48 PM
Astonishing X-Men #1-#12 is Pre-House of M. Astonishing X-Men #13-Onward is post Decimation. And we've been told that it's possibly post Civil War, because there will be changes that haven't been addressed yet in Civil War. One of them clearly possibly being Scott's visor.
Young Avenger
09-08-2006, 12:03 AM
The first arc of Wolverine: Origins is set before Civil War #1.
alextron
09-08-2006, 12:07 AM
The first arc of Wolverine: Origins is set before Civil War #1.
I would of thought Wolverine: Origins took place a long time ago. Not now.
I still think the Wolverine 'Origin' story was pointless to begin with.
phantom1592
09-08-2006, 01:05 AM
I don't know what to think about WOlverine Origins. From what I heard it was going to be random stories from Logans past. Of course I just thought I saw a cover with Wolverine (and maybe Jubilee) fighting Omega Red while WOlverine was in the old Brown costume.
Despite the fact that when Red came back Wolveine was wearing the Yellow/Blue, and the only other encounter was already documented.... I really just don't know about that one.
Sentinel K
09-08-2006, 03:15 AM
Wolverine Origins is aset in the PRESENT. It isn't old stories.
It's about Wolverine in the present day delving into his past now that he can remember everything post HoM.
It isn't a difficult concept to understand.
The first arc takes place in the few weeks between HoM and Civil War.
Crimson
09-08-2006, 03:33 AM
I don't know what to think about WOlverine Origins. From what I heard it was going to be random stories from Logans past. Of course I just thought I saw a cover with Wolverine (and maybe Jubilee) fighting Omega Red while WOlverine was in the old Brown costume.
Despite the fact that when Red came back Wolveine was wearing the Yellow/Blue, and the only other encounter was already documented.... I really just don't know about that one.
Wolverine is wearing his brown costume in Origins now. Origins takes place after HoM when he got his memorys back and is about his journey to discovers the secrets behind his past.
The flashbacks, obviously take place years ago but the majority is now.
The first arc is pre-Civil War but sooner or later the series will be post-Civil War.
Joe Acro
09-08-2006, 08:50 AM
How does it make sense for Wolverine to be wearing his good costume in Origins, but not wearing it anywhere else? If we presume the first arc takes place before Civil War, then why was he not wearing the brown costume in Spider-Man titles, X-Men, New Avengers, or even his other mag?
TinMan
09-08-2006, 08:58 AM
How does it make sense for Wolverine to be wearing his good costume in Origins, but not wearing it anywhere else? If we presume the first arc takes place before Civil War, then why was he not wearing the brown costume in Spider-Man titles, X-Men, New Avengers, or even his other mag?
Umm, he has more than one set of clothes like most people in the world? :p
In all honesty though, I wish they would choose one costume and stick him in it. I prefer his classic blue/yellow costume, but his brown/gold one is fine too, they just need to make up their damn minds!
brundlefly
09-08-2006, 09:04 AM
How does it make sense for Wolverine to be wearing his good costume in Origins, but not wearing it anywhere else? If we presume the first arc takes place before Civil War, then why was he not wearing the brown costume in Spider-Man titles, X-Men, New Avengers, or even his other mag?
I've learned to just suspend disbelief with Wolverine's current continuity. It was bad enough when just he was in X-Men and his own title. But now he's currently in Astonishing X-Men, X-Men, New Avengers, and two solo titles all at the same time? The mind reels. Obviously Marvel themselves aren't thinking too hard about the logic to it, so why should anyone else? We can only hope that after Civil War wraps up, ORIGINS ends, and he hopefully leaves NA that he'll return to somewhat believable appearance levels.
I think the good costume (and I agree with you on that call; that yellow and blue monstrosity is hard to look at) is being used in ORIGINS just to thematically/stylistically differentiate it from all the other simultaneous Logan appearances. Given that he's not wearing it anywhere else, we probably won't see it outside of ORIGINS, which is a shame. But I've got no factual basis for this, so there might be another reason.
Kefky
09-08-2006, 01:16 PM
I honestly don't see what the problem is. They never specified how much time passed between hom and civil war, so you just can just put new avengers, astonishing and Origins there. His own book makes perfect sense with civil war contunuity so far. And as far as x-men goes, he just stopped by the mansion for a bit to see what was up with Sabertooth. 'Cause you KNOW he was gonna do that, even if it meant stopping his search for Nitro for a bit.
Valen
09-08-2006, 01:48 PM
I would of thought Wolverine: Origins took place a long time ago. Not now.
I still think the Wolverine 'Origin' story was pointless to begin with.
While the flashback scenes obviously happened quite a while ago, but the "current" scenes are recent. Use the costumes of Cyclops and Emma Frost to gage it. This series is at least happening during the Astonishing timeline.
Joe Acro
09-08-2006, 02:14 PM
It was bad enough when just he was in X-Men and his own title. But now he's currently in Astonishing X-Men, X-Men, New Avengers, and two solo titles all at the same time? The mind reels.And don't forget his New Avenger-related appearances in Spider-Man titles (at least I assume he's appeared elsewhere besides Amazing).
Obviously Marvel themselves aren't thinking too hard about the logic to it, so why should anyone else?I'm waiting for the Handbook people to put it all together for us. I'll certainly need it when I get to more recent stuff in the history I'm working on.
I think the good costume (and I agree with you on that call; that yellow and blue monstrosity is hard to look at) is being used in ORIGINS just to thematically/stylistically differentiate it from all the other simultaneous Logan appearances. Given that he's not wearing it anywhere else, we probably won't see it outside of ORIGINS, which is a shame. But I've got no factual basis for this, so there might be another reason.
I like it better because it seems more feral, more suiting to Wolverine's personality. A guy who sneaks up on people and has a gruff attitude wears bright yellow and blue? It's just very odd.
brundlefly
09-08-2006, 02:29 PM
I like it better because it seems more feral, more suiting to Wolverine's personality. A guy who sneaks up on people and has a gruff attitude wears bright yellow and blue? It's just very odd.
I first knew of the yellow-and-blue as his "old" costume, as he was wearing the brown outfit when I first started reading X-Men (circa Uncanny #177) and at the time everybody else on the team had their own color schemes and looked like individuals. Then when Logan regressed back to yellow and blue around X-Men #4, most of the team adopted variations on those same colors and I thought they looked like idiots in their little color-coordinated outfits (which is the era that all the "yellow and blue spandex" comments seem to originate from). I think I remember reading that Jim Lee was responsible for that "makeover", but don't quote me on that. Ever since then they've kept him stuck in that garish getup. He's supposed to be this stealthy hunter/killer type but, as you said, he's prancing around in bright blue and yellow? Does. Not. Compute.
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