Moench/Colan BATMANs

[Gothos]

I like these, even though any time you want to read a bunch of issues, you have to dig out both BATMAN and DETECTIVE COMICS, since the storylines hopped from one to the other.

I especially liked Moench's villainess Nocturna, though it's just as well no one's ever brought her back.

Thoughts?

[Red Oak Kid]

I think comic fans are lucky that Colan got crossways with Marvel and got a chance to do a run on Batman. The character and the artist were made for each other.

[Cei-U!]

I think comic fans are lucky that Colan got crossways with Marvel and got a chance to do a run on Batman. The character and the artist were made for each other.

Agreed 100%. Too bad so many of Moench's scripts are turgid, overwritten swill. I still can't read some of the dialogue he wrote for Nocturna without reaching for a barf bag. (Sorry, Gothos.)

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I summon the different drummer!

[Captain Jim]

I especially liked Moench's villainess Nocturna, though it's just as well no one's ever brought her back.

We went through this a few months ago. She actually was brought back (in somewhat different form) in Robin a few years back.

[Gothos]

Agreed 100%. Too bad so many of Moench's scripts are turgid, overwritten swill. I still can't read some of the dialogue he wrote for Nocturna without reaching for a barf bag. (Sorry, Gothos.)

Cei-U!
I summon the different drummer!

I'll give you "overwritten" in most cases and "turgid" in various particular scripts. As for "swill," let's just say that, after having endured all the writer-disciples of the Roy Thomas Book of Pedestrian Style, I find Moench's purple prose refreshing.

[Cei-U!]

I'll give you "overwritten" in most cases and "turgid" in various particular scripts. As for "swill," let's just say that, after having endured all the writer-disciples of the Roy Thomas Book of Pedestrian Style, I find Moench's purple prose refreshing.

Ha! You've got me there. My opinion, for what it's worth (which ain't much), is that most Bronze Age comics writers--Archie Goodwin being the major exception--were in desparate need of an honest-to-God editor, someone to trim the fat and excess while helping them find their individual styles.

Cei-U!
Less is more!

[TheTen-EyedMan]

No matter how turgid, no matter how overblown, no matter how ridiculous it was, I am a complete and utter fan of the 80s Doug Moench Batman.


I mean things got so crazy that during crimson rain of the Crisis, when Catwoman got zapped and he thought she was dead he screamed at the rain.

Crazy stuff...but even the worst excesses of Doug Moench beats the living hell out of having cannibalism, dead kittens and someone digging up Vesper Fairchild's corpse which is what we've had recently.