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09-05-2006, 05:16 PM
Via this week's Lying In The Gutters (http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13):

Over on his message board, Jim Valentino has been talking about his '90s run on Guardians of the Galaxy. Apparently he had about fifty issues worth of ideas, but left the book after just under thirty. Bits and pieces of his ideas made it into the stories told after his departure, so it's interesting to compare this stuff with the actual comics.

Here (http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=144) is the thread. The "future" bits are on pages three and four. Here's a taste:

#45-50—“The Protégé War”

The entire series would have been building up to this storyline. I saw issue #50 as being double or even triple sized with only splashes and double-splashes (and where, obviously, the shit would truly hit the fan).

The Universal Church of Truth, led by the Protégé, guided by Malevolence and with their new converts, the Stark, invades the Earth! Malevolence’s father, Mephisto will join the young god (most likely killing his daughter along the way). While Force and the Galactic Guardians would join the Guards in trying to protect the planet (I would have figured out some reason or another why Force would join the side of the angels for this battle).

Unfortunately, even with all of their powers, they fail.

The Earth would have been destroyed. Sensing the release of energy, Galactus (the Keeper in tow) rushes there to consume the Earth’s energy. Upon seeing the world-eater, the Protégé attempts to “learn” his power while he’s feasting. The energy backlash causes the youngster to absorb him instead, killing Galactus and sending the Protégé into a comatose state, expelling energy that threatens to destroy the universe. The child is then plucked from Eternity by the Living Tribunal and reverts to his cocoon state Keep in mind the Protege was very similar to Adam Warlock).

Left without their god and with most of their fleet destroyed in battle, the Stark and UCT give up the battle. The Galactics will quarantine the remaining fleet.

In Epilogue 1, we see the fate of the Protégé. His mind wiped completely clean of all his life experiences. His cocoon will become a universe unto itself. Over time, he will age and, as an adult, he will venture back into Eternity’s universe, there to seek the experiences and knowledge he was denied…as the Beyonder!Nifty, eh?

drwho
09-05-2006, 05:19 PM
Via this week's Lying In The Gutters (http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13):

Over on his message board, Jim Valentino has been talking about his '90s run on Guardians of the Galaxy. Apparently he had about fifty issues worth of ideas, but left the book after just under thirty. Bits and pieces of his ideas made it into the stories told after his departure, so it's interesting to compare this stuff with the actual comics.

Here (http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=144) is the thread. The "future" bits are on pages three and four. Here's a taste:

Nifty, eh?


Heh, That is too far out there for me.

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09-05-2006, 05:26 PM
It's pretty cosmic, but, thing is, I can really see it following directly from Valentino's original Protege stories. Moreso than the strange storyline that actually did culminate in #50 (somewhat oddly featuring a Beyonder cameo).

And I do like his take on Starhawk.

protege
09-05-2006, 06:51 PM
Via this week's Lying In The Gutters (http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13):

Over on his message board, Jim Valentino has been talking about his '90s run on Guardians of the Galaxy. Apparently he had about fifty issues worth of ideas, but left the book after just under thirty. Bits and pieces of his ideas made it into the stories told after his departure, so it's interesting to compare this stuff with the actual comics.

Here (http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=144) is the thread. The "future" bits are on pages three and four. Here's a taste:

Nifty, eh?
I'm proud to bear the name of "Protege."

swinebread
09-05-2006, 07:13 PM
Was he kicked off guardians or did he leave for another reason? :confused:

Zero Hunter
09-05-2006, 08:07 PM
I just wish that a writer who actually likes the characters would pluck them out of the limbo that the last issue of their series left them and do something good with them. They have not been seen at all since being lost in time and space and marooned on whatever planet they ended up on in the last issue of their book. A story somewhere showing them getting back to their own time or something.

Steven F.
09-05-2006, 11:00 PM
Didn't they show up in New Warriors right after that?

DDM
09-06-2006, 09:01 AM
Was he kicked off guardians or did he leave for another reason? :confused:

Jim Valentino co-founded Image in 1992. For the most part--aside from the Dark Hawk series--he worked behind the scenes as Image's publisher.

phantom1592
09-07-2006, 02:35 AM
Jim Valentino co-founded Image in 1992. For the most part--aside from the Dark Hawk series--he worked behind the scenes as Image's publisher.


You mean ShadowHawk. ;) That was my favorite Image book. Can't stand the new stuff on him though :mad:

Zero Hunter
09-07-2006, 02:13 PM
Didn't they show up in New Warriors right after that?

No that was before they were lost in space and time. I am pretty sure they have not been seen since the last issue of their series.

Sean Walsh
09-07-2006, 02:19 PM
Is it just me, or did Jim Valentino always seem like the "lesser player" (no offense meant by this or anything) of the original IMAGE founders?

I never got the impression GOTG was as big a book as NEW MUTANTS, X-MEN, SPIDER-MAN and the other guys' Marvel stuff. Then again, sales were a different beast than they are now in the early 1990's.

riotgear
09-07-2006, 02:45 PM
No that was before they were lost in space and time. I am pretty sure they have not been seen since the last issue of their series.

No, he is correct, they appeared in New Warriors (vol.1) #68, after Guardians ended at issue 62.

Giant Guy
09-07-2006, 05:31 PM
I really don't think you can pick up their story from issue 62. Too much continuity of a series that did not seel that well at the time. I loved the series I liked the end, but that was more than 15 years ago.

Start fresh and redo the Guardians of the Galaxy. it could be a really great series if the right creative teams gets it.

Zero Hunter
09-07-2006, 05:58 PM
No, he is correct, they appeared in New Warriors (vol.1) #68, after Guardians ended at issue 62.

You are right. I never had seen that issue before which is funny since I have most of the rest of the issues of that run. I will have to see if I can find it next time I am at the store.

As for a redo. NO! That is the cheap way to do it and it would suck. I hate when they do that to books for no other reason than they are lazy. All you have to do is just say a little time has passed and go from there with whatever direction a writer would want to have with just a quick flashback that sets the current status que. I mean the Guardians are not that hard of a book to write. All you need is Vance Astro, Starhawk, Aleata, Charlie 27, Nicki, Martinex, Yondo, and just because I like him Talon. They can get rid of the rest of the Galactic Guardians except for the little Skrull girl.

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09-07-2006, 07:29 PM
They appeared in NEW WARRIORS, but I'm not sure it was actually them. There was a lot of weird time travel crap going on in that storyline.