Ryan Sook...MIA?

[evilheroics]

whatever happened to this xfactor artist? he just sort of dissapeared. i was reading xfactor 10's fan column and someone asked about it. PAD dodged the question.

Where is ryan sook? I miss him...

[The Sword Is Drawn]

whatever happened to this xfactor artist? he just sort of dissapeared. i was reading xfactor 10's fan column and someone asked about it. PAD dodged the question.

Where is ryan sook? I miss him...

As far as I understood it Sook had some problems keeping up with the pace of pencilling a monthly series, and decided to leave. Maybe I have my wires crossed?

[Valen]

whatever happened to this xfactor artist? he just sort of dissapeared. i was reading xfactor 10's fan column and someone asked about it. PAD dodged the question.

Where is ryan sook? I miss him...
He just did the flashback scenes in the Ultimates Annual 2 that came out this month.

[evilheroics]

but what happened to him on xfactor? is he gone forever?

[Babylon23]

As far as I understood it Sook had some problems keeping up with the pace of pencilling a monthly series, and decided to leave. Maybe I have my wires crossed?

That what I'd read. He couldn't keep up with the scheduling, so rather than have the book suffer delays or fill in artists, he removed himself from the project. I'd say we'll see him soon enough, probably on miniseries and/or covers.

[DDM]

That what I'd read. He couldn't keep up with the scheduling, so rather than have the book suffer delays or fill in artists, he removed himself from the project. I'd say we'll see him soon enough, probably on miniseries and/or covers.

Or maybe an X-Factor Annual #1?

[The Shadow]

And he is doing the covers still!

[ibrakeforchinwe]

but what happened to him on xfactor? is he gone forever?

Yes, he left the book...but he is doing covers still for the book. He had a hard time with the Monthly schedule.

[Matthew K.]

Yes, he left the book...but he is doing covers still for the book. He had a hard time with the Monthly schedule.
it's a shame. I appreciated his art more than Calero's on the book

[rilokyle]

I dunno, so far I've loved all the different artists who have contributed to this book. They each have their own distinctive style and I think they all have worked well with the noir feeling this book has. And the new artist who's coming on board with issue #13 looks fantastic as well.

[Christopher O]

it's a shame. I appreciated his art more than Calero's on the book
I feel you. Sook is so the man.

[evilheroics]

yeah, i dont care for calero. either have your own style or dont pencil it. i find it annoying when artist try to mimic other artist who left.

[Affinity]

I for one liked Sook a lot, but if it means I get my X-Factor fix monthly then I'm fine with Calero.

I disliked Calero a LOT in the beginning, but his story telling so wickedly awesome that I think it's great for X-Factor...maybe even better than Sook. I don't think it's fair to say that he's emulating Sook. Calero is doing his own quirky thing.

[NewChad]

Sook was one of the reasons I started reading the title. The story is what kept me there - but i do miss his art.

[comicfreak]

Well the final replacement for Sook ain't so bad. I mean Pablo Raimondi did a great job on the Maddrox Mini that lead in to X-Factor. His art looked great back then and surely will look great when he will start at X-Factor! :D

[Stephane Garrelie]

Sook was awedome on Zatanna.:)

[Zombienorthstar]

You know what i dont understand...how Sook can be a comic book artist and claim he 'cant cope' with a monthly schedule?!?

[DDM]

You know what i dont understand...how Sook can be a comic book artist and claim he 'cant cope' with a monthly schedule?!?


It just means editors have to be more creative with Ryan Sook. For instance, Arthur Adams is a very slow artist; therefore, he penciled limited series, annuals, one-off issues, & covers (Longshot #1-6, The New Mutants Special Edition #1, Uncanny X-Men Annual #9, Uncanny X-Men Annual #10, Uncanny X-Men Annual #12, Web of Spider-Man Annual #2, X-Factor #41-42, Fantastic Four #347-349, Classic X-Men #1-23 covers & interior art respectively)...

Ryan Sook could do something similar & still work in the comic book industry.

[CE_Rap]

You know what i dont understand...how Sook can be a comic book artist and claim he 'cant cope' with a monthly schedule?!?


**DING--DING** we have a winner!

That's exactly how i feel. How come in the old days, you saw this dramatically less than you do now? You'd see the same artist on a book for a year and a half with very, very little filler.

Fine, times have changed, blah, blah, blah. But seriously, this is your craft, (mine as well). And if you think your good enough to be a comic artist, you should be prepared to break your balls (or boobs:rolleyes: ) to make your deadline.

Now there are exceptions to the rule, ofcourse. Turner was MIA for a minute because he had surgery. Maybe Sook is going through something right now. But I don't think everyone has this problem.

Bad art is slipping too easily throught the cracks and it needs to stop.

[Zombienorthstar]

It just means editors have to be more creative with Ryan Sook. For instance, Arthur Adams is a very slow artist; therefore, he penciled limited series, annuals, one-off issues, & covers (Longshot #1-6, The New Mutants Special Edition #1, Uncanny X-Men Annual #9, Uncanny X-Men Annual #10, Uncanny X-Men Annual #12, Web of Spider-Man Annual #2, X-Factor #41-42, Fantastic Four #347-349, Classic X-Men #1-23 covers & interior art respectively)...

Ryan Sook could do something similar & still work in the comic book industry.


Agreed...and he has the talent to justify such finnicky scheduling,

[CE_Rap]

Originally Posted by DDM
It just means editors have to be more creative with Ryan Sook. For instance, Arthur Adams is a very slow artist; therefore, he penciled limited series, annuals, one-off issues, & covers (Longshot #1-6, The New Mutants Special Edition #1, Uncanny X-Men Annual #9, Uncanny X-Men Annual #10, Uncanny X-Men Annual #12, Web of Spider-Man Annual #2, X-Factor #41-42, Fantastic Four #347-349, Classic X-Men #1-23 covers & interior art respectively)...

Ryan Sook could do something similar & still work in the comic book industry.


another winner

[Zombienorthstar]

another winner



My only problem is when writers and artists take on projects they know they cant deliver....cause it slows the whole thing up when they inevitably have to find a replacement.

[Affinity]

It just means editors have to be more creative with Ryan Sook. For instance, Arthur Adams is a very slow artist; therefore, he penciled limited series, annuals, one-off issues, & covers (Longshot #1-6, The New Mutants Special Edition #1, Uncanny X-Men Annual #9, Uncanny X-Men Annual #10, Uncanny X-Men Annual #12, Web of Spider-Man Annual #2, X-Factor #41-42, Fantastic Four #347-349, Classic X-Men #1-23 covers & interior art respectively)...

Ryan Sook could do something similar & still work in the comic book industry.
Exactly. People like Michael Turner who can't do it on time can produce FAAAAAAAABULOUS covers.

And Adam Hughes does the coolest work. Good thing he got All Star Wonder Woman, it's allowed to be late lol.

[CE_Rap]

My only problem is when writers and artists take on projects they know they cant deliver....cause it slows the whole thing up when they inevitably have to find a replacement.


yea, i hear ya. Most of these artists get smacked with reality, realizing they just can't do it. But Sook is good, and should continue doing covers and annuals, etc. Leave teh monthly stuff to the work horses.

[CE_Rap]

Exactly. People like Michael Turner who can't do it on time can produce FAAAAAAAABULOUS covers.

And Adam Hughes does the coolest work. Good thing he got All Star Wonder Woman, it's allowed to be late lol.


Turner's covers are his best work. It really is the ONLY thing i would say he excels at because it forces him to draw more than just the usual "Fathom" chick in the same pose. That run on DC covers he did about 2 year was absolutely his best work. His insides aren't nearly as strong.

Hughes is a favorite for me. He is very talented, and the only reason he can't really do a monthly is because he does EVERYTHING--pencil/inks/colors/words. That's a severe work load that pretty much guarantees your going to be late.

[Christopher O]

**DING--DING** we have a winner!

That's exactly how i feel. How come in the old days, you saw this dramatically less than you do now? You'd see the same artist on a book for a year and a half with very, very little filler.

Fine, times have changed, blah, blah, blah. But seriously, this is your craft, (mine as well). And if you think your good enough to be a comic artist, you should be prepared to break your balls (or boobs:rolleyes: ) to make your deadline.
One thing that has changed is that many artists tend to be more detailed, which would obviously take more time. Take Bryan Hitch, for instance. You didn't really get his level of realism and detail in the sixties, seventies, or eighties.

[DDM]

One thing that has changed is that many artists tend to be more detailed, which would obviously take more time. Take Bryan Hitch, for instance. You didn't really get his level of realism and detail in the sixties, seventies, or eighties.

Neal Adams, who started his comic book career in the 60's, has highly detailed artwork. Arthur Adams is extremely detailed with his pencils/ink work. Alan Davis is detailed with his artwork too. John Byrne has detailed pencils when he does not take any shortcuts ( primarily in his 70's & 80's work).

There's just only slow artists & fast artists. The slow artists should not be on a monthly book.

[Christopher O]

Neal Adams, who started his comic book career in the 60's, has highly detailed artwork. Arthur Adams is extremely detailed with his pencils/ink work. Alan Davis is detailed with his artwork too. John Byrne has detailed pencils when he does not take any shortcuts ( primarily in his 70's & 80's work).
None of them compare to Hitch, when it comes to realism, especially in regards to character rendering. I'd imagine that takes a bit more time to draw than the stylized figures used by artists like Alan Davis and Arthur Adams.

[CE_Rap]

None of them compare to Hitch, when it comes to realism, especially in regards to character rendering. I'd imagine that takes a bit more time to draw than the stylized figures used by artists like Alan Davis and Arthur Adams.

Uhm...I think you have to give Neal Adams a HELLUVA LOT MORE credit. You think there'd be a Hitch if it wasn't for Neal? He not only made extremely detailed work, he also fathered the use of realism in face and musculature in comics. His panels were a work of art in themselves, far more dynamic than Hitch's. Thinking up an interesting way of telling the story through twisted panels, AND keeping everything unconfusing is a challenge. Here's a guy who did both and still made his deadlines.

AND, unlike Hitch, he inked a large amount of his own work. Still was on time. The way i see it, Hitch, while very talented, is still not on Neal's level.

I'd even put Jim Lee closer to NEal than Hitch because this guy did 24 issues (12 BAtman and 12 Superman) one after the other, was never late, and has a very detailed, very dynamic style. The only thing is that Hitch has stronger backgrounds, while Lee has stronger angles.

Even Ethan Van Sciver is really detailed. Look at Green Latern Rebirth to see what i mean. He leaves VERY little for the colorist or inker.

The only people who really need a bi-month time span are people who do everything in the book. Ross and Hughes are examples. They do ALL the art. Penciling an issue will take you a month. If you ink your pencils, most likely, your pencils will be bare so you can work faster. Even so, you still need another month for color. If all your doing is penciling, you need to pick up the pace if your doing a monthly, seriously. Like i said b4, there are exceptions and mitigating circumstances ocassionally, but they should be rare.

It's all about being a work horse, knowing how hard you can work, and how hard your willing to work. I think Hitch was doing his thing, then after a while was like "Damn, i need to slow down for a sec," slacked off a bit, and now we have a late book that was turned into a bi-monthly.

I admit, he is VERY detailed, and that takes a lot of time. I'm an illustrator, so i really get that. But the first thing they teach you at art school is to MAKE YOUR DEADLINES! They practically beat it into your brain. "GET IT DONE!" my illustration professor used to say. That's something the greats have been consistent at. They've always been on their game and have always been on time.

Ultimates was never meant to be a bi-monthly book. It's lost a lot of steam because of this. WHy do you think they brought in Joe MAd and Ed McGuinness for Ultimates 3 and 4? Because they don't want a bi-monthly book anymore.

[Christopher O]

I'm not trying to say that Hitch's way is better. I'm just saying that he tends to be more thorough and exact than most super-hero artists from the past. Neal Adams...OK, I'll give you that one. He's amazing, and I agree with everything you said about his work, but he's something special in a field rife with talented artists.

[CE_Rap]

I'm not trying to say that Hitch's way is better. I'm just saying that he tends to be more thorough and exact than most super-hero artists from the past. Neal Adams...OK, I'll give you that one. He's amazing, and I agree with everything you said about his work, but he's something special in a field rife with talented artists.

I hear ya. It's like that old saying "Eating with your eyes" (some $#!% like that:p ). Basically, too many artists think about comic art for the glamour of being published and popular. Of course you want this, no comic book artist doesn't. The really good ones understand it's $#@$in' hard work though. THey see a monthly book like X-Men and know they better be prepared for sleepless nights and occassional all nighters to really make it good. And that's why we love them.

I was in love w/ Hitch when he first did Ultimates because i used to say, "Dang, this guy can put out detail like this every month." But at the time, i thought he inked too. My point is, unless he's really got $#!% going down in his life or in the hospital, he needs to up his deadline skills. He's done it before, so why not now? Readers have every right to demand this of the artists they really admire. The really great comic artists understand this first and foremost.

is all i'm sayin':)

[evilheroics]

i just think the editors and sook cheated us. going into xfactor, sook knew the industries demands and the scheduling of a comic book and its deadlines...so if he knew he couldnt cut it, what was he doing?

its a shame though, i liked his art on the book. it really matched pad's writing.

[Frank]

As I understood it well Quesada said that Sook was working on a mini-series for Marvel.

[Editor]

i just think the editors and sook cheated us. going into xfactor, sook knew the industries demands and the scheduling of a comic book and its deadlines...so if he knew he couldnt cut it, what was he doing?

its a shame though, i liked his art on the book. it really matched pad's writing.

I believe Sook got a later start on X-Factor than was expected because he had re-draw some pages for the last project he was doing for DC.

This put him behind schedule from the start.

What i heard anyway.