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Blackcat
08-31-2006, 07:45 AM
I was a bit suprised to the fact Domino, Caliban and Shatterstar are calling themselves X-Force again.
Maybe it's pure speculation, but I think we just might see a reborn X-Force team again. Probably acting like a rebellion strikeforce in the nearby future.
I would not be suprised if X-Force teams up after Civil War and some of the 198 will join in to make the team complete.
The most likely cast would probably be with:
Domino
Caliban
Shatterstar
Magma
Empath
Outlaw
and probably Leech
What do you think? Am I a dreamer or might I be right?
Affinity
08-31-2006, 07:48 AM
Hm, I could see a possibility.
Frankly the title and the group doesn't appeal to me at all, except for maybe Domino? And Magma, maybe, but I don't know who Magma is anymore. I didn't understand her at ALL in Academy X.
X-Men: Civil War could easily be a set up for this, but I don't know if I'd get it.
Cayman
08-31-2006, 07:50 AM
I'd get it if Northstar and Aurora were on the team. :D
Cay
The Fury
08-31-2006, 07:50 AM
I think that if they do an X-force book it should be by the name, but lacking the characters above...maybe a few of them could be in it but I think it should be about a group of mutants that Registered.
NewChad
08-31-2006, 08:18 AM
Domino's been getting around a fair bit within Cable & Deadpool as well.
Seems like David Hine would be the logical choice to write it as he's basically managed to write one long story from District X to The 198 to Civil War: X-Men - seems like it could naturally fold into a new X-Force.
X-Factor
08-31-2006, 08:19 AM
My favorite X-Forcers are probably unable to join at the moment, so I doubt I would pick this up. I think this would be a great title to continue one with the Road Trip era, incorporate past X-Force, New Mutant, and Generation X members, and make it into a more character driven, fun and humorous book.
If it were a more proactive team premise (a la previous X-Forces and the 198), Empath, Magma, Sunspot, Outlaw, and others would work for me.
Sentinel K
08-31-2006, 08:42 AM
This would have no appeal to me AT ALL.
The last min series by Liefeld/Nicieza put the last nail in the X-Force coffin for me.
Accroître
08-31-2006, 08:43 AM
Not another X-Force please....
Hi-Fi
08-31-2006, 08:44 AM
I'd get it if Northstar and Aurora were on the team. :D
Cay
Nah. Northstar and Aurora belong to Carey's X-Men now. I wanna see them as recurring on that book.
Zombienorthstar
08-31-2006, 08:44 AM
We dont NEED another X-book...
The Sword Is Drawn
08-31-2006, 08:47 AM
Hmmmm.
You know that's not a wholly bad idea. But there'd have to be a hook, a reason for it.
X-Factor started again to protect what was left of Mutant Town (i.e. not much, but enough to get a couple of years worth of story out of).
New Excalibur was started to protect the UK from people taking advantage of the lack of heroes after M-Day, such as Black Air, or The Shadow King.
What would X-Force's reason be?
I like the idea of a tam featuring Domino, Shatterstar, Caliban and Magma. Empath? Maybe. But I'm not sure that Leach or Outlaw interest me too much.
Like I say, there would have to be a reason.
Beast
08-31-2006, 09:02 AM
There's been some discussion that this may be in the cards. What with Bishop's absense from any of the roster now and his current position during Civil War.
The Sword Is Drawn
08-31-2006, 09:04 AM
There's been some discussion that this may be in the cards. What with Bishop's absense from any of the roster now and his current position during Civil War.
Now that might be interesting.
If it was part based upon his current Civil War team, I'd be interested. It's been to long since we saw some of those guys.
Beast
08-31-2006, 09:13 AM
Now that might be interesting.
If it was part based upon his current Civil War team, I'd be interested. It's been to long since we saw some of those guys.
Agreed. Bishop, Sabra, Micromax, Domino, Shatterstar, and Caliban would make for a decent roster.
Sentinel K
08-31-2006, 09:15 AM
Agreed. Bishop, Sabra, Micromax, Domino, Shatterstar, and Caliban would make for a decent roster.
I'ma big fan of Bishop and Domino, but I still wouldn't buy it.
Too many X books as there is.
Zombienorthstar
08-31-2006, 09:16 AM
Agreed. Bishop, Sabra, Micromax, Domino, Shatterstar, and Caliban would make for a decent roster.
Wouldnt make too much sense...seeing as theyre on different sides.
rukus78
08-31-2006, 09:18 AM
Now that might be interesting.
If it was part based upon his current Civil War team, I'd be interested. It's been to long since we saw some of those guys.
I would actually like to see X-Force refromed (Domino Shater Empath et al) but not under the traditionally Xavier dream model. I think it would be great (and somewhat ironic) if they became the new Mutuant Liberation Front Group and became a rival outlaw version of the X-teams. Their methods would be slighlty extremist. Their goals would not be to destroy the X-men, but every once in a while they could kick their arses. And best of all they wouldn't require thier own title, they could just be incorporated into the various x-titles as the "enemy team"
Beast
08-31-2006, 09:27 AM
Wouldnt make too much sense...seeing as theyre on different sides.
Since when has that stopped anyone. Not to mention it may be a clause in the pardon from the President.
X-Factor
08-31-2006, 09:40 AM
We dont NEED another X-book...
We never need X-Books, but if something good comes along, why not?
Zombienorthstar
08-31-2006, 09:45 AM
We never need X-Books
Speak for yourself.:confused:
The Sword Is Drawn
08-31-2006, 10:55 AM
Since when has that stopped anyone. Not to mention it may be a clause in the pardon from the President.
Aye. And I think as characters in their own rights they all kind of compliment each other pretty well.
brundlefly
08-31-2006, 10:57 AM
We dont NEED another X-book...
Agreed. I thought the whole 198/Decimation concept was to slim down the X-Universe. At the moment, most of the X-books each serve a purpose (well, I can't say that about two Wolvie solo titles, but that's the exception). No need to resurrect another book if there's not a need for it and technically aren't enough mutants left over to fill it. And with Cannonball in X-MEN, Cable in CABLE/DEADPOOL and X-MEN, Meltdown in NEXTWAVE, Warpath in UNCANNY, and Rictor in X-FACTOR, what mainstays would be on this 'new' team? Is the world really clamoring that hard for the return of Shatterstar and Domino to a Liefeld-drawn monthly series? :rolleyes:
Eh, I'm probably indifferent because despite liking a few of the individual characters (who are now all in other X-books), the 'X-Force' series itself never appealed to me in any of its incarnations and I don't miss it.
Loestal
08-31-2006, 04:47 PM
Agreed. I thought the whole 198/Decimation concept was to slim down the X-Universe. At the moment, most of the X-books each serve a purpose (well, I can't say that about two Wolvie solo titles, but that's the exception). No need to resurrect another book if there's not a need for it and technically aren't enough mutants left over to fill it. And with Cannonball in X-MEN, Cable in CABLE/DEADPOOL and X-MEN, Meltdown in NEXTWAVE, Warpath in UNCANNY, and Rictor in X-FACTOR, what mainstays would be on this 'new' team? Is the world really clamoring that hard for the return of Shatterstar and Domino to a Liefeld-drawn monthly series? :rolleyes:
Eh, I'm probably indifferent because despite liking a few of the individual characters (who are now all in other X-books), the 'X-Force' series itself never appealed to me in any of its incarnations and I don't miss it.
Decimation was to undo what Morrison did, the mutant baby boom thing.
Beast
08-31-2006, 05:24 PM
Decimation was to undo what Morrison did, the mutant baby boom thing.
Especially since the huge leap forward in numbers didn't make logical sense when you consider how rare mutants were in the Marvel Universe all through the 1960's, 1970's, 1980's, and even the 1990's didn't feature huge numbers. And then suddenly there's 32 million of them? Nonsense. Especially when you consider the fact that roughly only 13 years have passed since Uncanny X-Men #1.
Tommy
08-31-2006, 05:28 PM
X-Force's problem is that it is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 90's. I am not sure you could restart X-foce and yet free it of its 90's trappings.
Perhaps if they mixed in Lacuna...
The Sword Is Drawn
08-31-2006, 05:37 PM
X-Force's problem is that it is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 90's. I am not sure you could restart X-foce and yet free it of its 90's trappings.
Perhaps if they mixed in Lacuna...
I know what you mean, but it would all depend on what it's purpose and concept was.
I mean look at X-Factor. X-Factor was a book about a government funded mutant team. Now it's a book about a privately run detective agency. Does that devalue it? Not really. It still works okay. I'm not sure how easily it will stay relevent a couple of years from now, when Decimation will be long since forgotten and Mutant Town will become almost totally irrelevent. But for now it works in the new context.
Just because there is a book called X-Force doesn't mean it's going to be about Cable training his own private army.
X-Factor
08-31-2006, 05:59 PM
X-Force's problem is that it is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 90's. I am not sure you could restart X-foce and yet free it of its 90's trappings.
Perhaps if they mixed in Lacuna...
I disagree. Anything can be brought to the present and I believe nothing should be confined to a time period. Except Rob Liefield.
Tommy
08-31-2006, 06:12 PM
I disagree. Anything can be brought to the present and I believe nothing should be confined to a time period. Except Rob Liefield.
While they can update it, the space between X-Factors was years. The last time we had big pec, big gun, EXTREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM X-force was 2004.
The real question is if a new X-force could survive without Cable, Domino, Shatterstar or with radically redesigned and updated versions of them?And while Cable has obviously been updated quite a lot lately, can you update someone like Shatterstar? Glowing eye, horrible ponytail, alternate universe, convoluted back-story, sword carrying warrior Shatterstar?
The Sword Is Drawn
08-31-2006, 06:15 PM
The real question is if a new X-force could survive without Cable, Domino, Shatterstar or with radically redesigned and updated versions of them?And while Cable has obviously been updated quite a lot lately, can you update someone like Shatterstar? Glowing eye, horrible ponytail, alternate universe, convoluted back-story, sword carrying warrior Shatterstar?
Well, both Longshot and Dazzler are now back in regular X-Books...:rolleyes:
X-Factor
08-31-2006, 07:02 PM
While they can update it, the space between X-Factors was years. The last time we had big pec, big gun, EXTREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM X-force was 2004.
The real question is if a new X-force could survive without Cable, Domino, Shatterstar or with radically redesigned and updated versions of them?And while Cable has obviously been updated quite a lot lately, can you update someone like Shatterstar? Glowing eye, horrible ponytail, alternate universe, convoluted back-story, sword carrying warrior Shatterstar?
X-Force certainly does not need big guns and big pecks. Oh, how the memories gross me out.
It was not that to me after Liefield left under the various other writers. Personally, I do not like Cable, Domino, or Shatterstar anyway (I preferred pretty much all of their other cast members), I am just debating the 90's comment. After all, characters have carried over from the 60's through the 80's so I do not see the problem.
At the end of the day, its just a name.
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