Three Matches that define wrestling

[BoosterBronze]

A non wrestling friend of mine asked to show her one match that would make her understand and appreciate wrestling. I argued that one match could never really encapsulate the sport, so we haggled the three.

Sunday the challenge is on. I need to dig in my massive video collection for three matches to show. I'm pretty sure about one match, but open to any suggestions.

If you could only pick three, which three would you pick?

[Scorpion13]

A non wrestling friend of mine asked to show her one match that would make her understand and appreciate wrestling. I argued that one match could never really encapsulate the sport, so we haggled the three.

Sunday the challenge is on. I need to dig in my massive video collection for three matches to show. I'm pretty sure about one match, but open to any suggestions.

If you could only pick three, which three would you pick?


Thats a pretty tall order, but whatever the other two would be, one has to be Hogan/Andre at Wrestlemania 3. It was, literally, the biggest match in wrestling history.

[hoffmandu]

Thats a pretty tall order, but whatever the other two would be, one has to be Hogan/Andre at Wrestlemania 3. It was, literally, the biggest match in wrestling history.

Ric Flair VS anyone BABY! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!:eek:

[BoosterBronze]

Thats a pretty tall order, but whatever the other two would be, one has to be Hogan/Andre at Wrestlemania 3. It was, literally, the biggest match in wrestling history.

I'm pretty deadset on Angle/HBK at Mania 21. That was the best wrestling match I've ever seen, just two men going at eachother.

The thing with Hogan/Andre is that to a non-fan, it's mainly two big men pushing eachother around for 20 min. She will have no grasp of the implications it has.

I'd love to have a Flair match... but I can't think of which it should be. And probbaly some weapons match... maybe a TLC. Hmmmm

[Captain Trips]

I can think of two:
Brett Hart vs. The British Bulldog in Wembley Stadium (I think it was a Summer-Slam)

The first ladder match for the IC title between Razor Ramon and Shawn Michaels

[Athena Bast]

The first major PPV TLC match.. I think it was a TLC of The Hardyz vs The Dudleys.

[scottv]

I think that tv wrestling is the dumbest thing on tv. How much more fake can you actually get?

[clayholio]

Angle/HBK was a damned fine match.

My favorite match ever was the Flair vs. Terry Funk I Quit match. So I always recommend that one. Maybe it would be a good idea to throw a shorter, faster-paced match in there. There are number of matches that fit that bill on the Rey Mysterio DVD, like his Smackdown debut vs. Chavo Guerrero. It's not Rey's best match, but it is a different style than Angle/HBK or Flair/Funk, and wouldn't require much explanation about how the match came to be.

[Scott Evil]

A non wrestling friend of mine asked to show her one match that would make her understand and appreciate wrestling. I argued that one match could never really encapsulate the sport, so we haggled the three.

Sunday the challenge is on. I need to dig in my massive video collection for three matches to show. I'm pretty sure about one match, but open to any suggestions.

If you could only pick three, which three would you pick?
I'd agree w/ Hogan v Andre. You should explain what comes from the match (rise of wrestling, why Hogan is Hogan, impact on pop culture in the 80's and on..)

If your friend (a 'she', I think?) is up to it, I'd show the infamous 'Taker v Mankind (KOR '98) as the (IMO) the definitely match of the Attitude Era. I know Hart/Micheals *inadvertadly* or Hart/Austin may have started it, but the match showed how over the top wrestling had gotten w/ its characters and over the top violence. Another one that has to be put into proper context in order to appreciate.

I'm not sure what the third match would be though. Maybe something technical to show off them being 'athletes'? Maybe a good cruiserweight match. Or if it was up to me; anything w/ Benoit and/or Angle.

Happy searching!

[Gavin Higginbotham, BotF]

I can think of two:
Brett Hart vs. The British Bulldog in Wembley Stadium (I think it was a Summer-Slam)

Yep! Back in 1992 (I think). I was there, although I was sitting about ten rows from the back. That sucked, plus, I was one of probably only a few hundred in the entire place cheering Hitman on. I was proudly wearing the replica glasses and a shitty leather jacket with a crappy pink Hitman insignia (made by me), complete with a foam belt. *was a BIG wrestling fan back then*

I also loved Hogan vs Ultimate Warrior.

As for a third... dunno.

[titanfan]

I think that tv wrestling is the dumbest thing on tv. How much more fake can you actually get?

I take it that you only watch the news and or sporting events on TV?

[cactusmaac]

Bret Hart vs Mr Perfect King of the Ring 1993 - excellent, short technical match

Angle & Benoit vs Edge and Rey Mysterio No Mercy 2002 - fantastic tag action

Samoa Joe vs AJ Styles vs Christopher Daniels TNA Turning Point 2005 - you will believe in the greatness of a fat man.

BTW, here's of a list of Top 20 WWE ones we came up with at Rajah:


Bret vs. Austin - WM13 - 14 votes

Flair vs. Savage - WM8 - 11 votes
Austin vs. Rock - WM17 - 11 votes

Eddie vs. Brock - No Way Out '04 - 10 votes

HBK vs. Taker - HIAC - 9 votes
Foley vs. HBK - Mind Games - 9 votes

Austin vs. Bret - Survivor Series '96 - 8 votes
Bret vs. Perfect - KOTR '93 - 8 votes
Austin vs. Angle - Summerslam 2001 - 8 votes
Rock vs. Benoit - Fully Loaded - 8 votes


Mr. Perfect vs. Bret Hart - Summerslam 1991 - 7 votes
Bret vs. Bulldog - Summerslam 1992 - 7 votes
Eddie vs. JBL - JD '04 - 7 votes
Benoit vs. Jericho - Ladder Match - Royal Rumble 2001 - 7 votes

Savage vs. Steamboat - WM3 - 6 votes
Bret vs. Owen - WM 10 - 6 votes
10-Man Tag - Canadian Stampede - 6 votes
Jericho vs. The Rock - No Mercy 2001 - 6 votes
Razor vs. HBK - Ladder Match - WM10 - 6 votes

Edge/Rey vs. Angle/Benoit - No Mercy 2002 - 5 votes

[cactusmaac]

I take it that you only watch the news and or sporting events on TV?

Don't feed the trolls.

[Legato]

Don't feed the trolls.

What he said. It will just cause more trolls like that to come here.

Austin vs Bret Hart at WM: A pretty good match that introduced the concept of the double turn.

[Guts/Batman]

For me it is:

Bret Hart vs. Austin WM 13. Bar none my favorite match ever.
Ultimate Warrior vs Hogan at WM 6.

Those are my two favorites.

Other I like are Warrior-Savage WM 7
Undertaker-Mankind HIAC

Yeah, I am kinda biased twoard Bret Hart. What can I say. I was a major fan of his.

[Legato]

For me it is:

Bret Hart vs. Austin WM 13. Bar none my favorite match ever.
Ultimate Warrior vs Hogan at WM 6.

Those are my two favorites.

Other I like are Warrior-Savage WM 7
Undertaker-Mankind HIAC

Yeah, I am kinda biased twoard Bret Hart. What can I say. I was a major fan of his.

Your not the only one. I enjoy most of the Matches Bret Hart had.

I cant seem to recall what event it happened but the match involved Owen Hart and Bret Hart spending the entire match wrestling in the center of the ring.

Am I the only one who feels that the Undertaker vs Mankind match was overrated? The only highlight of that was Foley falling off of the top of the Cell and that's pretty much it.

Now the HHH vs Foley match was pretty good.

[Guts/Batman]

I still am a major fan of Bret Harts. Honestly, I couldn't stand Degeneration X when it came into existance. I'm still not a very big fan of Triple H or Shawn Michaels.

I was definitely a Hart Foundation Fan. I think my being a fan of Bret Hart had to do more with his wrestling ability. His wrestling was the entertainment and it wasn't so predictable what would happen like with Hogan.

You're not wrong that it wasn't filled with memorable matches. He got choke slammed through the cage (which you try to do everytime you do a HIAC match in a WWE game, that's me anyways) after being tossed off the cell.

What I most remember from that match was that Mankind came back every time something major happened.

I've never actually seen the Triple H-Mankind match in full. Just highlights. Would love to see it though...

Which reminds me to search for that Undertaker DVD. I have no idea where it is...

[Scott Evil]

Bret vs. Austin - WM13 - 14 votes

Flair vs. Savage - WM8 - 11 votes
Austin vs. Rock - WM17 - 11 votes

Eddie vs. Brock - No Way Out '04 - 10 votes

HBK vs. Taker - HIAC - 9 votes
Foley vs. HBK - Mind Games - 9 votes

Austin vs. Bret - Survivor Series '96 - 8 votes
Bret vs. Perfect - KOTR '93 - 8 votes
Austin vs. Angle - Summerslam 2001 - 8 votes
Rock vs. Benoit - Fully Loaded - 8 votes


Mr. Perfect vs. Bret Hart - Summerslam 1991 - 7 votes
Bret vs. Bulldog - Summerslam 1992 - 7 votes
Eddie vs. JBL - JD '04 - 7 votes
Benoit vs. Jericho - Ladder Match - Royal Rumble 2001 - 7 votes

Savage vs. Steamboat - WM3 - 6 votes
Bret vs. Owen - WM 10 - 6 votes
10-Man Tag - Canadian Stampede - 6 votes
Jericho vs. The Rock - No Mercy 2001 - 6 votes
Razor vs. HBK - Ladder Match - WM10 - 6 votes

Edge/Rey vs. Angle/Benoit - No Mercy 2002 - 5 votes
:
Sweet list of matches.. Funny how there aren't any Hogan matches on it all. What? No love for Warrior/Hogan I? j/k :D

I definitely have fond memories of Bret/Owen, Razor/HBK's ladder match (the matches that made for one of the best WMania's ever IMO). Anything w/ Benoit is golden, especially w/ Jericho & the ladder match.

[Scott Evil]

Its true that 'Taker v Mankind is overrated in the technical sense that there wasn't really much of a match between beginning and end. It did however (IMO) usher in to the mainstream the 'hardcore' style that only the Indy's, Japan & Mexico have been doing for years. It doesn't help make it less popular w/ the fact that the WWE keeps (and will keep) showing that 3 second clip on EVERYTHING they market. Its kinda like Dr. J's cradle dunk and the NBA; you don't know who won the game, but DAMN that was sick and the NBA will be damned if they don't show it on every highlite.

I'm standing w/ everyone else so far, if you want to show off wrasslin', I'd stay clear of anything hokie or gimmicky. Stick to athleticism, skill, and the ability to suck the crowd into the match- then your friend'll see what you (we) see.

[Erebus]

Samoa Joe vs CM Punk
Ricky Steamboat vs Randy Savage
Mick Foley vs Undertaker

[Guts/Batman]

I agree with Scott.

If you hadn't watched ECW or Mick Foley in general because seeing that match, I think the viewer would be "Holy shit, he just threw him off the cage!"

[Jade_GL]

I only started watching wrestling in 1999, so I am not as familiar with the calssic matches and wrestlers (Hogan, Funk, the Hart brothers, etc) as a lot of people here are. However, I will interject some of my favorite matches that I think are worth considering.

Top of the list in Kurt Angle vs. Eddie Guerrero at Wrestlemania XX. This was a great match that was fun to watch and had a great ending. Just really a good all around match.

Cactus Jack and Raven vs. Terry Funk and Tommy Dreamer which happened in ECW in 1995. This match is nuts and I think it really brings across the ECW vibe. Very bloody, so be warned, but it is very fun. I think this really is a good hardcore match.

Finally, I would say either the first or second TLC match between the Dudley Boyz, Edge and Christian, and the Hardy Boyz. Those are always great. I can't recall which one I liked the most, so I am saying either just to be fair.

I know, not the cream of the crop or anything, but they stand out in my mind. I wish I had watched more TNA, because I love their wrestling show, but I don't know which match would be the best out of those. ANything with Samoa Joe probably. :D

[scottv]

I take it that you only watch the news and or sporting events on TV?


Actually I only very seldom watch tv at all. I used to watch way too much but since I have been at college I am either working, doing homework, and I generally relax by reading. I find that when I sit down to watch I will only want to watch for a half hour and it turns into 2 hours.

[Scorpion13]

I only started watching wrestling in 1999, so I am not as familiar with the calssic matches and wrestlers (Hogan, Funk, the Hart brothers, etc) as a lot of people here are. However, I will interject some of my favorite matches that I think are worth considering.

Top of the list in Kurt Angle vs. Eddie Guerrero at Wrestlemania XX. This was a great match that was fun to watch and had a great ending. Just really a good all around match.

Cactus Jack and Raven vs. Terry Funk and Tommy Dreamer which happened in ECW in 1995. This match is nuts and I think it really brings across the ECW vibe. Very bloody, so be warned, but it is very fun. I think this really is a good hardcore match.

Finally, I would say either the first or second TLC match between the Dudley Boyz, Edge and Christian, and the Hardy Boyz. Those are always great. I can't recall which one I liked the most, so I am saying either just to be fair.

I know, not the cream of the crop or anything, but they stand out in my mind. I wish I had watched more TNA, because I love their wrestling show, but I don't know which match would be the best out of those. ANything with Samoa Joe probably. :D


Eh, I dunno if showing a skeptical girl a hardkore ECW match with blood is quite the way to go.

[SnowTrooper]

Samoa Joe vs. A.J. Styles vs. Christopher Daniels
Hardy Boyz vs. Dudley Boyz vs. Edge & Christian in the second TLC match
The Undertaker vs. Mankind in the Hell in a Cell match

There all a little hardcore but thats why I like them.

[Jade_GL]

Eh, I dunno if showing a skeptical girl a hardkore ECW match with blood is quite the way to go.

True, I was just saying I think it encapsulates a type of wrestling, but I made it clear it is a bit more intense than the others.

Perhaps it's one that can be worked up to, like after you see a bunch of Hogan and Flair matches? :)

Plus the other ones I mentioned are much milder, especially that Angle vs. Guerrero match which is much more fun and technical, and has a great ending.

[Cody H]

For me it is:

Bret Hart vs. Austin WM 13. Bar none my favorite match ever.Agreed, this one is about as good as it gets in my opinion. Also, obviously the Mankind/Taker Hell In A Cell match is gonna catch anybody's interest.

[Leslie Lee III]

Joe vs Kobashi

Electric crowd, incredibly stiff.

[SnowTrooper]

Joe vs Kobashi

Electric crowd, incredibly stiff.
That was gonna be my 4th choice, that match was like a clash of the titans.

[GozertheGozarian]

If you go with Flair, pick one from the Steamboat feud. If you want something hardcore, find anything with Wahoo McDaniel and Adrian Adonis.

[shades of eternity]

what no love for that royal rumble match between benoit and angel. back in 2003.

Best match ever.:cool:

[Howard Allan]

I'm pretty deadset on Angle/HBK at Mania 21. That was the best wrestling match I've ever seen, just two men going at eachother.

The thing with Hogan/Andre is that to a non-fan, it's mainly two big men pushing eachother around for 20 min. She will have no grasp of the implications it has.

I'd love to have a Flair match... but I can't think of which it should be. And probbaly some weapons match... maybe a TLC. Hmmmm


If you want a Flair match, it has to be against either Terry Funk or Ricky (The Dragon) Steamboat. These are the best matches Flair has ever done.

[stealthwise]

Owen vs Bret at Mania that year.
Angle vs Benoit at WM X7
Angle vs Benoit at the Rumble a few years back.

[Guts/Batman]

Owen vs Bret at Mania that year.

Wrestlemania X?

The one where he won the title from Yokozuna.

I liked that match as well. I don't think there was a Bret Hart match that I disliked.

[Blueferret]

Steamboat/Savage
Razor Ramone/HBK
Taker/Mankind

[Bright-Raven]

Ric Flair / Ricky Steamboat Chi-Town Rumble

Sting / Flair All American Bash - Sting's first World Title win. If you don't have Flair / Steamboat, then this is the next best Flair match in his career, IMO.

Bret Hart & Chris Benoit - the Owen Hart Tribute match - it may not be the most exciting matchup either guy ever had, but what the match meant to both participants and the wrestling community and the fact that it is a WRESTLING MATCH, not a slugfest, is the reason for it to be named.

Hart Foundation (Bret Hart & Jim Neidhardt) V. Brain Busters (Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard) Probably the two most scientifically solid tag teams in the modern era.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Ric Flair vs Rick Steamboat: Wrestlewar 89

This is pretty much the best match in history for a reason. 60 Minutes and the 2 never stop. Its got Ric doing and working completely with Steamboat for 60 minutes. The WWE has tried Iron Man matches now , but here in 1989 these 2 made it a classic.


Rob Van Dam vs Jerry Lynn : ECW Living Dangerously 99

Rob Van Dam in ECW was a completely different animal than we see in WWE. He could call a very good match and get 30 to 40 minutes on select PPV's to do his thing. Its when he and Jerry Lynn had their Respect fued that he helped make Lynn a very good star.

Lynn was amazing in this. I mean aboslute amazing as he and Rob traded near blows , kicks , near falls ect ect. Then time ran out and they got 5 more minutes and RVD managed to get the classic win as fans applauded both men.

Rob on his DVD said it best: " My matches with Jerry Lynn were the best of my career and I've never had that come close in the WWE. "


Chris Benoit vs Ric Flair : WCW Thunder 1998

There was nothing on the line between these 2. Benoit was being booked horrible by Kevin Sullivan. Ric Flair was busy clashing with WCW politics. This was a few weeks before he'd be suspended by Bischoff.

The 2 were thrown into a match on Thunder. The show was slowly losing steam anyhow and they were given 25 to 30 minutes to do a match. But its a match that pretty much signafied that Chris Benoit was HERE. He wasn't gonna be booked bad no longer and fans were gonna see what he could do.

The match flowed and moved as Flair seemingly was doing a Sting job for this guy. Benoit and Flair traded moves , wrestled hard and at the end it was a draw. The time had ran out and Benoit had pretty much showcased his skills and himself to more WCW fans.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Actually I only very seldom watch tv at all. I used to watch way too much but since I have been at college I am either working, doing homework, and I generally relax by reading. I find that when I sit down to watch I will only want to watch for a half hour and it turns into 2 hours.

Uhhh so why are you in this thread ? I mean if ya don't like it , why post here ? You don't see me posting in the Books thread thrashing great Litature you read do ya ? ;)

[cactusmaac]

Joe vs Kobashi

Electric crowd, incredibly stiff.

It's a great match but a lot of the appeal is lost if you have zero knowledge of puro coming in. Same goes for the Misawa\Kobashi matches. How the participants incorporated past history and counter-moves is what makes them special.

[Silliw 2]

Just remember to mix them up. Showcase something different with each video.

Technical, High Flying, Heavyweight, Hardcore, etc.

[cactusmaac]

Hardcore matches appeal to plenty of teen males but I don't think a woman would get much out of them.

It might also be worthwhile showing her a few memorable promos and comedy segments - like the Rock's promo in Toronto after No Way Out 2003 or the This Is Your Life segment - since that's likely to go over better than Terry Funk getting flung onto barbed wire.

[Leslie Lee III]

It's a great match but a lot of the appeal is lost if you have zero knowledge of puro coming in. Same goes for the Misawa\Kobashi matches. How the participants incorporated past history and counter-moves is what makes them special.

I couldn't disagree more, because I didn't come in with any prior knowledge of the couple of moves Joe used and I still loved the match (and I hadn't really enjoyed any of the previous Kobashi I had seen either).

[BoosterBronze]

I thought I had my decision made... TLC 1, HBK/Angle, and Flair/Funk

BUT DARNIT! You've all gone and named too many great matches.

Angle/Guerroro at XX is great, especially because the hysterical ending.
Joe/Daniels/Styles was a work of ART!
And 9/10 of Bret Hart's carreer counts as all time great matches...
on top of all that, she said she likes Undertaker (she's kinda goth) so I'm trying to find his best match (maybe Taker/HHH WM17)

Its... just... too... hard!!!

[cactusmaac]

Taker's best matches

HIAC vs Shawn Michaels, Badd Blood 97.

vs Bret Hart, One Night Only 97

vs Steve Austin, Summerslam '98

[Blueferret]

Here's a good one. It's not a great one, but always stuck with me for brutal it was. Spike Dudley v. Bam Bam Bigelow. Bigelow beat the hell out of Spike, tossed him into the crowd and then beat on him for another 5 minutes. Spike, meanwhile, is bleeding like a faucet.

[clayholio]

I thought I had my decision made... TLC 1, HBK/Angle, and Flair/Funk

BUT DARNIT! You've all gone and named too many great matches.

Angle/Guerroro at XX is great, especially because the hysterical ending.
Joe/Daniels/Styles was a work of ART!
And 9/10 of Bret Hart's carreer counts as all time great matches...
on top of all that, she said she likes Undertaker (she's kinda goth) so I'm trying to find his best match (maybe Taker/HHH WM17)

Its... just... too... hard!!!
The Taker/Angle match from this year's No Way Out was supposed to be very, very good as well. I thought I'd throw that out there, you know, just to complicate things...

[Forefinger]

The Taker/Angle match from this year's No Way Out was supposed to be very, very good as well. I thought I'd throw that out there, you know, just to complicate things...
It was very good. One of the best.

I'm sure that it's been mentioned, but I'm going with the triple threat match at Wrestlemania XX for the World title with Benoit, HBK, and HHH.

I don't know which one to pick for my 3rd, but it would probably be one of the Benoit/Angle classics. I really liked their Ultimate Submission match.

[Alex L]

Joe vs Kobashi

Electric crowd, incredibly stiff.

The only thing loding back my recommendation for that one is that it's indy.

As great as ROH is, it looks like it takes place in a high school gym -- and if you're making a first impression, looks matter.

I'd start with maybe Hitman/Perfect, Summerslam '91. Has generally what the non-watcher would refer to as 'wrestling', and the crowd was SUPER hot.
Fairly high-quality match.

Next...hm, maybe Hardyz/E&C No Mercy '99, Tag Team Ladder Match.
Better than the TLC's to me. The table spots in TLC always seemed a little too contrived and forced, even for a guaranteed spotfest.

The No Mercy match is a real-life action movie in a wrestling ring.

Third...third, hmmm...
If she can stomach sick(er) violence, then Mankind/Taker HIAC it is.
Don't forget, not only does it have the cage bump, it has ANOTHER cage bump, his teeth sticking out his nose, and thumbtacks.
The goal is not to give her a wrestling history lesson, it's to get her interested in seeing more. :)

Maybe one of the Tajiri/Crazy matches.
Don't know how a non-fan would react to Hart/Austin WM 13, I Quit.

In general, when showing matches to someone who doesn't analyze workrate/long-term selling/etc. etc, short is good. Long is boring.

[Leslie Lee III]

The only thing loding back my recommendation for that one is that it's indy.

As great as ROH is, it looks like it takes place in a high school gym -- and if you're making a first impression, looks matter.

Have you seen Joe vs Kobashi? What year of ROH are you talking about? Because if you're recommending ECW I don't see how the New Yorker looks much different than most ECW shows. It's a great looking venue.

[Alex L]

Have you seen Joe vs Kobashi? What year of ROH are you talking about? Because if you're recommending ECW you must not have seen much ROH once it moved to bigger venues.

*goes to re-check*

Yep. Joe/Kobashi looks like it takes place in a fairly small venue. I can see the back wall pretty clearly.

Tajiri/SC @ Guilty as Charged looks like it takes place in a proper arena, with multi-leveled seating.

Not that any of this affects in-ring performance, but, like I said, when making a first impression looks do matter.

[cactusmaac]

Joe\Kobashi looked like it was put on at an armoury or gym.

Super-hot crowd though, probably the best I've seen at a match.

[Leslie Lee III]

I guess since I regularly see wrestling that actually takes place in high school gyms, armories, etc. it's easier for me to tell when something is not actually one (plus I know factually it wasn't). Joe vs Kobashi was in the New Yorker Hotel and is a very good looking venue.

[Young Avenger]

No love for Cruiserweights? Here's a list of some great Cruiserweight matches

Ultimo Dragon vs Rey Mysterio - World War 3 96

Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio - Halloween Havoc 97

Chris Jericho vs Juventud Guerrera - Mask vs title

Dean Malenko vs Rey Mysterio (any match between them is great)

Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko - The Great America Bash 98

[Waffles]

Off the top of my head...

Chris Benoit Vs. Willam Regal - From the Brian Pillman Tribute Show
Steve Austin vs. Bret Hart - Survivor Series (the superior and forgotten match)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio - Halloween Havoc 1997

[Guts/Batman]

Taker's best matches

HIAC vs Shawn Michaels, Badd Blood 97.

vs Bret Hart, One Night Only 97

vs Steve Austin, Summerslam '98

The Summerslam one, the First Blood match?

One Night Only was on the Bret Hart DVD, and the Understaker DVD (which I have lost). I love both matches. He just kicks out of the sharpshooter, sending Bret flying into the aisle.

And these was no interference from the Hart Foundation. Which is what I also loved about Heel Bret Hart. Unlike Hollywood Hogan NWO, he didn't need the boys to help him in the ring.

Not to say that I am not a Hulkamaniac, because I am. I'm just a lot bigger fan of Bret than I am of Hogan.

[Guts/Batman]

Steve Austin vs. Bret Hart - Survivor Series (the superior and forgotten match)

I remember than match. Well somewhat, I liked it a lot. I was hoping it would be on Bret Hart's dvd.

[BoosterBronze]

Well, it went off.

I went with:
HBK/Angle WM 21
Austin/Bret WM 13
Joe/Daniels/AJ
(with TLC 1 cued up and ready if I could convince her to watch a fourth. She didn't have time).

I'd call it a marginal success. She was into the matches to various degrees. I was shocked how little she reacted to some high-spots, and totally marked out to an atomic drop. Go figure. She says she'll try to make it to the next PPV I order (probably Bound For Glory)

Thanks for all the help guys.