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Lex
03-18-2006, 10:36 PM
Tom Brevoort Interview (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=6925)

Robert Kirkman Interview (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=6927)

Ant-Man in an ongoing series! With the amazing creative team of Robert Kirkman, Phil Hester and Ande Parks!

It sounds really good. Very character-oriented. And I like that it will explore S.H.I.E.L.D. a little more. It should be filled with Kirkman's fun, awesome writing and great art.

I was a little worried about its ties to Civil War, which I'm not planning to get, but it seems like the first arc is the origin so CW doesn't matter.

Anyone else excited about this?

Tony Starkz
03-18-2006, 10:43 PM
No,Punisher does though.

Lex
03-18-2006, 11:06 PM
Heh. I just noticed a thread talking about both this and the new Punisher thing.

But that's okay. This can be the Punisher-free thread. Yay!

Starting now.

StoneGold
03-18-2006, 11:11 PM
It's hard to be excited about Ant-Man. I mean, it's Ant-Man.


I am kind of interested though.

twilight
03-18-2006, 11:46 PM
I'm interested in finding out why he's irredeemable.

XPac
03-19-2006, 12:43 AM
Funny that when they were calling him "Irredeemable" I was sure they were giving Hank Pym his own series.

Anyways, Ant Man really is a classic marvel character so I'm glad they're giving him a fresh start. And it's Kirkman so ya know the series will be fun.

milhouse123321
03-19-2006, 01:56 AM
Sounds kinda cool

Leebenhouse
03-19-2006, 02:22 AM
I really like this new costume. It kind of reminds me of the costume in the Avengers animated series from the late 90s. Some of the costume designs in that series weren't that bad either.

And with Kirkman at the helm with Hester/Parks doing the art, it's a definant book for me.

MakeshiftHero
03-19-2006, 02:46 AM
It's hard to be excited about Ant-Man. I mean, it's Ant-Man.


I am kind of interested though.
I feel the same way, here's a guy who can shrink and talk to ants, watch out bad guys!, but at the same time the way it sounds I think it will be an interesting read and with shield behind the whole thing I hope they upgrade the suit and give it some new toys. I'm just glad they didn't bring Scott back from the dead somehow even though I liked the character. I'll probably get the 1st and/or 2nd issue and then just grab the TPB when it comes out.

Jack
03-19-2006, 03:47 AM
I'm not excited about Ant-Man, but... that's a hell of a team.

dingo
03-19-2006, 04:42 AM
Irredeemable huh?

Sounds like they are going to import the ultimate Ant Man.

Starkicker
03-19-2006, 07:28 AM
It sounds like a fun book, I might check it out.

twilight
03-19-2006, 07:36 AM
Does anyone else find it weird that both Marvel and DC killed bug themed
heroes in the lead ups to their big events and now both of the identities are being revived within months of each other?

lonesomefool
03-19-2006, 07:45 AM
I think this could be avery good read, and I like how it seems to want to shy away from the Bendis/Ellis pacing that some comics do so poorly these days. That said Kirkman's Marvel work hasnt been very good compared to his Image work, and I have to wonder if this lasts more than 12 issues.

dingo
03-19-2006, 07:51 AM
Does anyone else find it weird that both Marvel and DC killed bug themed
heroes in the lead ups to their big events and now both of the identities are being revived within months of each other?

Lots of people instinctively squish bugs and then feel a little bit sorry about it afterwards. Thankfully in a comic you can use a retcon or new character to soothe your concience :)

Phil Hester
03-19-2006, 11:21 AM
Don't get too hung up on the powers. The book is more about what being a supposed super-hero does to a normal person's life. You know how Peter Parker is the ultimate everyman who always tries to do the right thing and triumphs? Well, our guy is the ultimate everyman who always finds a way to crap the bed. Much closer to the "anything can happen" vibe of Walking Dead than anything at the big two. I implore you to give it a flip through in the comic shop. It's so dense that a flip through will take as long as actually reading a normal book.

As for the art... meh. Who is this guy?

Cayman
03-19-2006, 11:36 AM
It sounds promising and the artwork previewed is really good. I'm just not sure if I can add another ongoing right now though.

Cay

dingo
03-19-2006, 11:41 AM
You know how Peter Parker is the ultimate everyman who always tries to do the right thing and triumphs? Well, our guy is the ultimate everyman who always finds a way to crap the bed.

I am really not sure what you mean by that.
Is this a phrase I am unaware of or does he genuinely have trouble controlling his bowel whilst sleeping because he is so scared of his superhero life?

Lanowar
03-19-2006, 11:45 AM
For a while I've always been unsure about how Ant-Man works as a superhero concept until I played a game called 'Freedom Force' where there was a ant-man sorta Spider-Man fashioned character who was great and ever since then I've been waiting for a Ant-Man ongoing and this looks better then good.

Haunt
03-19-2006, 12:59 PM
Don't get too hung up on the powers. The book is more about what being a supposed super-hero does to a normal person's life. You know how Peter Parker is the ultimate everyman who always tries to do the right thing and triumphs? Well, our guy is the ultimate everyman who always finds a way to crap the bed. Much closer to the "anything can happen" vibe of Walking Dead than anything at the big two. I implore you to give it a flip through in the comic shop. It's so dense that a flip through will take as long as actually reading a normal book.

As for the art... meh. Who is this guy?


the interview got me interested. i was sort of expecting a full-on crazy Hank Pym Ant-Man. but an Ant-Man who might steal your wallet could be just as cool. sounds like Thunderbolts material. anyways, good luck. art looks great. 'see you' in October.

I am really not sure what you mean by that.
Is this a phrase I am unaware of or does he genuinely have trouble controlling his bowel whilst sleeping because he is so scared of his superhero life?

not up on your analogies huh? 'crap the bed' translates into 'making a mess of things.'

Doom Hammer
03-19-2006, 01:39 PM
The new Ant-Man looks dumb.

But this sounds AWESOME!

I love Ant-Man.

Neolucifer
03-19-2006, 01:41 PM
Does anyone else find it weird that both Marvel and DC killed bug themed
heroes in the lead ups to their big events and now both of the identities are being revived within months of each other?

Its true that i imediately thought of Blue Beetle , when readng the article . Especially with successors with very few in common , even in look , with their predecessor .

Still i dont care who copied who , or if no one copied anyone , with the team onboard i'm interested .

Babylon23
03-19-2006, 07:05 PM
The creative team is enough for me to give this book a look. However, I'm a fan of both Scott Lang and Hank Pym, so I may not like the new Ant-Man. I'll check out the first issue to see if's it's to my liking.

Haunt
03-19-2006, 07:15 PM
The creative team is enough for me to give this book a look. However, I'm a fan of both Scott Lang and Hank Pym, so I may not like the new Ant-Man. I'll check out the first issue to see if's it's to my liking.


sounds like Henry Pym is in the series; just not as Ant-Man. i'm liking the S.H.I.E.L.D connection. i've been wondering what goes on behind the scenes in an organization like that, now that ol' Nick isn't at the helm. Agent Hill seems somewhat incompetent.

Ruins
03-19-2006, 07:33 PM
I'm actually looking forward to this, I like the art style and costume.

Mean Mr Mustard
03-19-2006, 07:40 PM
For a while I've always been unsure about how Ant-Man works as a superhero concept until I played a game called 'Freedom Force' where there was a ant-man sorta Spider-Man fashioned character who was great and ever since then I've been waiting for a Ant-Man ongoing and this looks better then good.

Now I know who this Ant-Man design reminds me of... The Ant! (The FF character)
I'm liking the character design, character concept and art so far. The fact that it will help me get my monthly SHIELD fix doesn't hurt either. I hope Pym isn't just a guest star though. I've always liked him more as Dr Pym than as Ant-Man/Giant-Man and this seems like the perfect series for him to fill the mentor/scientist role.

dougiemccoy
03-19-2006, 08:00 PM
so when this starting or is out already

Lex
03-19-2006, 09:19 PM
so when this starting or is out alreadyOctober...

Young Avenger
03-19-2006, 09:40 PM
I'm divided on this. I never did like Ant-Man. I never found him interesting or useful. He not the type of character who can carry a solo book. In the other hand, I'm both a fan of Kirkman and Hester and I've liked everything their names were attached to. I'll be Ant-Man on the maybe pile for now.

marshal99
03-19-2006, 09:47 PM
Ah , who's taking bets on how long the book will last ? ;)

I say the book will not last beyond 25 issues.

Lex
03-19-2006, 09:53 PM
Ah , who's taking bets on how long the book will last ? ;)

I say the book will not last beyond 25 issues.It's way way WAY too early to be thinking something like this. The first issue doesn't even come out for another 6 months.

twilight
03-19-2006, 10:06 PM
Ah , who's taking bets on how long the book will last ? ;)

I say the book will not last beyond 25 issues.

Here's an idea.

Don't act like an ass.

Alex A Sanchez
03-20-2006, 12:39 AM
Ah , who's taking bets on how long the book will last ? ;)

I say the book will not last beyond 25 issues.

I've got $100 saying that it lasts longer.

People weren't sure about Invincible when it first came out- which I bought soley because of Kirkman and Cory Walker's work on Superpatriot. Man was I ever glad that I did, because here we are at issue 29 and the book is stronger than ever in both reader enthusiam and sales.

The preview art looks great for Ant Man, and I have faith in the story since Kirtman himself has wanted this project since he joined Marvel (as it said in the article). Personally, I could care less for who will star in this book: I'm sure whoever it is, Robert and Phil will get me to care about him by the 2nd issue.

Leebenhouse
03-20-2006, 02:48 AM
You know how Peter Parker is the ultimate everyman who always tries to do the right thing and triumphs? Well, our guy is the ultimate everyman who always finds a way to crap the bed.

He literally means it.

The new Ant-Man is going to be revealed to have Crones Disease. That's why theres going to be two Ant-Men, so when one **** his pants, the other takes over.

Well, maybe if this was an Image book. I mean Kirkman finally did with his characters in Invincible what we've all been thinking about Duo Damsel/Triplicate Girl of the Legion. Threeway-ski!!!

Haunt
03-20-2006, 08:35 PM
bad post. nothing here to see.

Expletive Deleted
04-03-2006, 03:05 PM
Ant-Man! (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=65421)

I have to say, I like what I'm hearing. Hank Pym designing armor? A dense, sixteen panel grid style? Dum Dum Dugan as the head honcho?

I'm not sold yet, but I'm getting there.

Haunt
04-03-2006, 03:07 PM
i've been waiting for a hero as despicable as me but with antennae for a long time. Thank you thank you, Mr Kirkman and Mr Hester!!

p.s. the guy wearing the costume looks like Stifler.

Cotton
04-04-2006, 02:13 AM
What do you guys think about the costume? I don't know, it looks kinda.....I don't know, a little "generic" like another Superhero face with only eyes (Spiderman, Deadpool, Spawn, etc.), or maybe it's in the rough draft stages of the costume.

dingo
04-04-2006, 02:22 AM
Reminds me too much of the Ant-man suit designed by Kristoff Vernard in Fantastic Four that was soon forgotten about.
Mind you, I wouldn't wear a suit designed by Dr Doom jr for long either.

Haunt
04-04-2006, 10:00 AM
What do you guys think about the costume? I don't know, it looks kinda.....I don't know, a little "generic" like another Superhero face with only eyes (Spiderman, Deadpool, Spawn, etc.), or maybe it's in the rough draft stages of the costume.

i think it's a brilliant design. why? because the first time i saw it, i hated it. the second time i looked at it, the costume was just funny looking. but it has slowly grown on me. and now that Hester has explained it's functions and why it looks the way it does, i'm loving it. i would have gone with something more like the Copiel Ant-Man version but i'm not an artist/many people hated Copiel's design initially. think of how generic Deadpool's costume is for a second? does his look matter as much as his personality? i'd say, "no." i think it's the personality beneath the Ant-Man armor that we should focus on. the guy is supposed to be a bit of a schmuck. if the costume is hideous, he's probably too full of himself to notice. i'm also liking all of the weird attachments, like the robotic legs & pinchers, that fold out when he shrinks. this Ant-Man, though goofy, looks to be much more formidable than his predecessors.


Reminds me too much of the Ant-man suit designed by Kristoff Vernard in Fantastic Four that was soon forgotten about.
Mind you, I wouldn't wear a suit designed by Dr Doom jr for long either.


really? besides them both being armor instead of cloth, i don't see any resemblance.

comparison shots:

http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=00747464958%208

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/AntMan/AntManturn.htm

the antennae are different. the mandibles are different. it's armored in different places. the kristoff design leaves the mouth visible. the boots are different. one has a bulkier harness. the colouring is different. ...

Core
04-04-2006, 10:57 AM
Reminds me too much of the Ant-man suit designed by Kristoff Vernard in Fantastic Four that was soon forgotten about.
Mind you, I wouldn't wear a suit designed by Dr Doom jr for long either.

I can see what you mean, especially in the helmets.

The first character I was reminded of was Beetle:

http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/uploads/FrankStrysik/2004-05-16_112100_beetle.jpg

Still, Hester's design is pretty cool, and it is more Iron-Manish than the Beetle's armor.

Haunt
04-04-2006, 01:36 PM
i loved the original Beetle armor. i hope someone picks it up eventually.

Young Avenger
04-04-2006, 03:53 PM
The new Ant-Man suit reminded me of Ultimate Beetle. I'm becoming a bit more convinced. Kirkman and Hester sure is making this series interesting.

Haunt
04-04-2006, 03:56 PM
The new Ant-Man suit reminded me of Ultimate Beetle. I'm becoming a bit more convinced. Kirkman and Hester sure is making this series interesting.


what does Ultimate Beetle look like? i wasn't aware that there was one. i don't know if Kirman's Ant-Man book will be good but i'm betting that it will be different enough to keep me interested.

Young Avenger
04-04-2006, 04:03 PM
what does Ultimate Beetle look like? i wasn't aware that there was one.

This is Ultimate Beetle

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/646/646805/spider-man-20050902101302912-000.jpg

Haunt
04-04-2006, 04:34 PM
This is Ultimate Beetle

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/646/646805/spider-man-20050902101302912-000.jpg


he looks sort of like a red x. cool! :D

CaptainAwesome
04-04-2006, 06:14 PM
Ive never cared for ant-man, but this new series has potential. I will probably check it out. Mainly because Im a sucker.

Another question, wasnt there an Ant-man series about a year or 2 ago? I think it was Scott Lang and he was like a pimp (literally, at least he was on the covers). Was that any good? How long was it?

Haunt
04-04-2006, 06:30 PM
Ive never cared for ant-man, but this new series has potential. I will probably check it out. Mainly because Im a sucker.

Another question, wasnt there an Ant-man series about a year or 2 ago? I think it was Scott Lang and he was like a pimp (literally, at least he was on the covers). Was that any good? How long was it?


Daniel Way was going to put out a series under the MAX line. it starred Hank Pym. and those women on the cover were dolls. the series was cancelled before ever debuting; probably because of the negative press.

cactusmaac
04-04-2006, 06:43 PM
I can't see this lasting very long given the current climate of mammoth crossovers, especially since Slott's THING is experiencing sales trouble.

StoneGold
04-04-2006, 06:59 PM
I can't see this lasting very long given the current climate of mammoth crossovers, especially since Slott's THING is experiencing sales trouble.
It does have three plusses going for it that Thing never did. One, the character is being introduced and is spinning out of a massive crossover, so a lot of people will get a chance to look at the character before the book actually comes out. Two, as much as I like Thing, it's a completly harmless book. I know we all bitch whenever "nothing will ever be the same," but so far, nothing has come close to being different in Thing. Three, less baggage. You kind of know what to expect from a Thing book. Here, we're in virgin territory.

That said, it'll still probably be an uphill climb. I mean, it's Ant-Man.

Haunt
04-04-2006, 07:18 PM
I can't see this lasting very long given the current climate of mammoth crossovers, especially since Slott's THING is experiencing sales trouble.


you're a ray of sunshine and definately on my visitor's list the next time i catch an incurable disease.

It does have three plusses going for it that Thing never did. One, the character is being introduced and is spinning out of a massive crossover, so a lot of people will get a chance to look at the character before the book actually comes out. Two, as much as I like Thing, it's a completly harmless book. I know we all bitch whenever "nothing will ever be the same," but so far, nothing has come close to being different in Thing. Three, less baggage. You kind of know what to expect from a Thing book. Here, we're in virgin territory.

That said, it'll still probably be an uphill climb. I mean, it's Ant-Man.


that's not all it has going for it. don't forget Robert Kirkman, Phil Hester, or that Andy Parks dude. that said, i could care less how long the series lasts; as long as i get some interesting new characters out of it.

dingo
04-04-2006, 07:30 PM
It does have three plusses going for it that Thing never did. One, the character is being introduced and is spinning out of a massive crossover, so a lot of people will get a chance to look at the character before the book actually comes out.

I guaruntee you more people have had a chance to look at the Thing before now. He will certainly be in Civil War too, so I think this is a moot point.

Two, as much as I like Thing, it's a completly harmless book. I know we all bitch whenever "nothing will ever be the same," but so far, nothing has come close to being different in Thing. Three, less baggage. You kind of know what to expect from a Thing book. Here, we're in virgin territory.


This is the best selling point of this book, in as far as it is new characters, they can do what they please with them. It will give it more of an indy feel. In fact I would not be too surprised if one of the main characters has been created simply to die.


That said, it'll still probably be an uphill climb. I mean, it's Ant-Man.

Yeah. Who the hell would want to have the powers of an ant? It reminds me of a Joe's fridays a while back where someone asked him something and in his answer he said that he thought Sleepwalker was the worst superhero name ever, because nothing about it evokes excitement (sleep and walker). Well I contend Antman is worse, and can only be bettered by introducing an Antlad

Haunt
04-04-2006, 07:41 PM
This is the best selling point of this book, in as far as it is new characters, they can do what they please with them. It will give it more of an indy feel. In fact I would not be too surprised if one of the main characters has been created simply to die.

my money's on Chris McCarthy. nice guys always finish last. that's why Hank is still alive and his successor is worm food. :D

Yeah. Who the hell would want to have the powers of an ant?

trust me. if some guy with Ant-Man's power and a grudge showed up at your house, you'd wet yourself. not an insult; just being realistic. heck, if someone with mildly enhanced strength or the ability to talk to squirrels was my enemy, i'd be scared. with good reason. it's not the power. it's what you're willing to do with it. Kirkman's version seems to be a somewhat violent individual.
http://images.comicbookresources.com/cons/wizworldla2006/marvel/ANTMAN001001_col.jpg

It reminds me of a Joe's fridays a while back where someone asked him something and in his answer he said that he thought Sleepwalker was the worst superhero name ever, because nothing about it evokes excitement (sleep and walker). Well I contend Antman is worse, and can only be bettered by introducing an Antlad

i like the name because it isn't intimidating. it's the kind of name that forces a character to earn their reputation. you could go into a fight with a name like Death-Man but, if you get your rear handed to you, you might might as well be El ****y Grando.

dingo
04-04-2006, 07:47 PM
trust me. if some guy with Ant-Man's power and a grudge showed up at your house, you'd wet yourself. not an insult; just being realistic. heck, if someone with mildly enhanced strength or the ability to talk to squirrels was my enemy, i'd be scared. with good reason. it's not the power. it's what you're willing to do with it. Kirkman's version seems to be a somewhat violent individual.


I am not sure I would wet myself, but your point is well made. However, he will not be turning up at my house, but he will be turning up at the houses of other superheroes/villains who are used to people with genuinely scary abilities who are willing to go all the way.


i like the name because it isn't intimidating. it's the kind of name that forces a character to earn their reputation. you could go into a fight with a name like Death-Man but, if you get your rear handed to you, you might might as well be El ****y Grando.

True, but off the rack, many people will subconciously ignore the book because of the name, although the "iredeemable" may attract a few eyeballs.

Haunt
04-04-2006, 07:52 PM
I am not sure I would wet myself, but your point is well made. However, he will not be turning up at my house, but he will be turning up at the houses of other superheroes/villains who are used to people with genuinely scary abilities who are willing to go all the way.

and that's why i'm happy with the interviews, so far. this version has military and SHIELD training. and might be willing to go all the way. with the addition of the armor and size-changing, i'd put him at Punisher-level threat; disputable.

True, but off the rack, many people will subconciously ignore the book because of the name, although the "iredeemable" may attract a few eyeballs.

i hope so. i like the title because it distinguishs him from the 'Astonishing' Ant-Man. makes it a depart from the past.

Will.S
04-04-2006, 11:11 PM
The design is certainly growing on me but it strikes me as an odd fusion of the Iron Spidey costume and the new Blue Beetle one although what gives Ant-Man the goofy yet unique touch is the floppy antennae.

As long as the Iron Spidey costume (which I happen to like) goes away the suit doesn't look redundant and I'm interested to see if McNiven will draw the suit during Civil War as well.

StoneGold
04-04-2006, 11:54 PM
I guaruntee you more people have had a chance to look at the Thing before now. He will certainly be in Civil War too, so I think this is a moot point.

But the only lead up to the Thing book was a story in FF. There was no real build up. As opposed to, say, the last Thing book being launched out of Secret Wars.

Phil Hester
04-05-2006, 12:00 AM
Great discussion. I long to chime in, but fear giving away plot details. Robert's signature twists and turns abound in this book.

Marvel has made a commitment to keep the title around awhile. We were originally slated to come out pre-Civil War, but Joe & co., in their wisdom, decided the book needed the kind of push Civil War could give. It is kind of goofy- all my favorite heroes are a little goofy. We will need the support of readers who long to see the big two try new things.

Give #1 a try... you'll be hooked.

I hope.

Will.S
04-05-2006, 12:02 AM
The Phil has spoken.

StoneGold
04-05-2006, 12:03 AM
Great discussion. I long to chime in, but fear giving away plot details. Robert's signature twists and turns abound in this book.


Ant-Man's a zombie?

cactusmaac
04-05-2006, 08:57 AM
Great discussion. I long to chime in, but fear giving away plot details. Robert's signature twists and turns abound in this book.

Marvel has made a commitment to keep the title around awhile. We were originally slated to come out pre-Civil War, but Joe & co., in their wisdom, decided the book needed the kind of push Civil War could give. It is kind of goofy- all my favorite heroes are a little goofy. We will need the support of readers who long to see the big two try new things.

Give #1 a try... you'll be hooked.

I hope.

I'll be onboard for however long it lasts.

O'Grady
04-05-2006, 10:05 AM
The design is certainly growing on me but it strikes me as an odd fusion of the Iron Spidey costume and the new Blue Beetle one although what gives Ant-Man the goofy yet unique touch is the floppy antennae.

As long as the Iron Spidey costume (which I happen to like) goes away the suit doesn't look redundant and I'm interested to see if McNiven will draw the suit during Civil War as well.

i agree. and i also like the Blue Beetle redesign; even though the classic version wasn't bad either. the new floppy antennae remind me of that Grasshopper character from GLA but Irredeemable Ant-Man is still cooler.

Ant-Man's a zombie?

not reading X-Statix DeadGirl?

Great discussion. I long to chime in, but fear giving away plot details. Robert's signature twists and turns abound in this book.

Marvel has made a commitment to keep the title around awhile. We were originally slated to come out pre-Civil War, but Joe & co., in their wisdom, decided the book needed the kind of push Civil War could give. It is kind of goofy- all my favorite heroes are a little goofy. We will need the support of readers who long to see the big two try new things.

Give #1 a try... you'll be hooked.

I hope.

sold me on it.

Haunt
07-14-2006, 07:28 PM
someone has to post it.

Cover to Irredeemable Ant-Man #1
http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NJF5art/ANTMAN001_colcov.jpg

Solicit: IRREDEEMABLE ANT-MAN 1

Written by ROBERT KIRKMAN
Pencils and Cover by PHIL HESTER
"Introducing the world’s WORST superhero! When a low-level S.H.I.E.L.D. agent gets a hold of Hank Pym’s new Ant-Man suit you know the Marvel Universe is in trouble. He’s not concerned with saving the world or helping others. He’s concerned with getting through the day and getting a leg up on life. He’s not going to use his powers responsibly, he’s going to use them for the betterment of himself. He’s ANT-MAN a NEW “hero” for the modern world. If you thought Robert Kirkman pushed the boundaries of what could be in a Marvel Comic with MARVEL ZOMBIES just WAIT until you see what he does in THE IRREDEEMABLE ANT-MAN!"
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99



they had me at "WORST superhero!" :)

Young Avenger
07-14-2006, 07:34 PM
they had me at "WORST superhero!" :)

They had me with that line too. :)

Micro
07-16-2006, 01:46 AM
I think this sounds like a good idea, a new take on Ant-man is long over due. I think the character has a very workable premise as long as he is given a new backstory and identity. The main reason I never like the character before is mainly because:
1. Henry "Hank" Pym, I have nothing agianst him, I've just never really found much likable or interesting about him.
2. Ant-Man never looked like an Ant really, or seemed to protray an Ant. I always thought he should have used a Spider-Man style formula, the same way the X-Men used a Fantastic Four style formula.
3. Prym is Ant-Man, but he's also Goliath, Giant-Man, and Yellowjacket, it was never clear to me what made Ant-Man different from those others.
So I'm actually somewhat optimist about this book, and Kirkman does do good work. I don't find the art all that impressive, but it is alright. I think this would have been a great book for Ed McGuinness to take on, it's too bad he didn't get a monthly.

drwho
07-16-2006, 08:03 AM
I really dont expect this series to last. I would have at least tried it if Marvel used one of the previous ones. Some shield agent gets shrinking powers whoah how exciting.:rolleyes:

Jake Lockley
07-16-2006, 08:48 AM
I'll check this one out. I've always liked the Ant-Man character, and I expect some interesting ideas from Kirkman.

Violently Apathetic
07-16-2006, 08:53 AM
someone has to post it.

Solicit: IRREDEEMABLE ANT-MAN 1

Written by ROBERT KIRKMAN
Pencils and Cover by PHIL HESTER
"Introducing the world’s WORST superhero! When a low-level S.H.I.E.L.D. agent gets a hold of Hank Pym’s new Ant-Man suit you know the Marvel Universe is in trouble. He’s not concerned with saving the world or helping others. He’s concerned with getting through the day and getting a leg up on life. He’s not going to use his powers responsibly, he’s going to use them for the betterment of himself. He’s ANT-MAN a NEW “hero” for the modern world. If you thought Robert Kirkman pushed the boundaries of what could be in a Marvel Comic with MARVEL ZOMBIES just WAIT until you see what he does in THE IRREDEEMABLE ANT-MAN!"
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99



they had me at "WORST superhero!" :)


Sounds like Booster Gold to me...I'm in.

BizarroBeachHead
07-16-2006, 09:02 AM
I'm not sure whether or not I want to get this, especially since I'm trying to avoid adding titles to my pull list.

I love Kirkman, but I don't think his Marvel work has been near the quality of Invincible or Walking Dead. Marvel Team Up is probably his best(though I think it's been slipping over the last few months) and his Ultimate X-Men is just terrible. Then again, The Irredeemable Ant-man is will probably read more like a creator owned series.

This book does look good though. I guess I'll have to at least try it out at first. Hopefully this will be his breakaway Marvel hit.

Haunt
07-16-2006, 02:23 PM
I think this sounds like a good idea, a new take on Ant-man is long over due. I think the character has a very workable premise as long as he is given a new backstory and identity. The main reason I never like the character before is mainly because:
1. Henry "Hank" Pym, I have nothing agianst him, I've just never really found much likable or interesting about him.
2. Ant-Man never looked like an Ant really, or seemed to protray an Ant. I always thought he should have used a Spider-Man style formula, the same way the X-Men used a Fantastic Four style formula.
3. Prym is Ant-Man, but he's also Goliath, Giant-Man, and Yellowjacket, it was never clear to me what made Ant-Man different from those others.
So I'm actually somewhat optimist about this book, and Kirkman does do good work. I don't find the art all that impressive, but it is alright. I think this would have been a great book for Ed McGuinness to take on, it's too bad he didn't get a monthly.


what has McGuiness done? i'm not all that familiar with him.

Sounds like Booster Gold to me...I'm in.


he's the blonde guy from Formerly the Justice League, right? i'm more familiar with Blue Beetle. was Booster Gold a jerk or something?

I'm not sure whether or not I want to get this, especially since I'm trying to avoid adding titles to my pull list.

I love Kirkman, but I don't think his Marvel work has been near the quality of Invincible or Walking Dead. Marvel Team Up is probably his best(though I think it's been slipping over the last few months) and his Ultimate X-Men is just terrible. Then again, The Irredeemable Ant-man is will probably read more like a creator owned series.

don't put it on your pull list. just pick it up if you see an interesting solicit. btw, the reason i think it could be good is because Kirkman is great at creating new characters (imo). i haven't like many of his takes on characters with established continuity but his new characters are cool.

Expletive Deleted
07-16-2006, 02:26 PM
DEADPOOL (the first few Joe Kelly issues)
SUPERMAN and SUPERMAN/BATMAN (with Jeph Loeb)
JLA CLASSIFIED (with Grant Morrison)

A couple of other things too, but those're the ones that spring to mind. He has a bright, exaggerated style that works very well with straightforward superhero adventure comics.

Haunt
07-16-2006, 02:31 PM
I really dont expect this series to last. I would have at least tried it if Marvel used one of the previous ones. Some shield agent gets shrinking powers whoah how exciting.:rolleyes:


if they used one of the previous ones, it wouldn't be much of a legacy. the whole point is to pass the costume along. or at least that's my layperson opinion. besides that, it's easier to write characters who aren't already established (or dead). btw, they are using one of the previous Ant-Men. Pym is a character in this title. and since the costume he built, i'm sure that we'll be seeing plenty of him. i'm hoping for a Batman Beyond kind of role with Pym as a much younger version of Bruce Wayne.

DEADPOOL (the first few Joe Kelly issues)
SUPERMAN and SUPERMAN/BATMAN (with Jeph Loeb)
JLA CLASSIFIED (with Grant Morrison)

A couple of other things too, but those're the ones that spring to mind. He has a bright, exaggerated style that works very well with straightforward superhero adventure comics.

oh snap! now i know who that is. i have those Deadpool issues. he would have done well on this book; not that Phil Hester won't.

drwho
07-16-2006, 04:09 PM
if they used one of the previous ones, it wouldn't be much of a legacy. the whole point is to pass the costume along. or at least that's my layperson opinion. besides that, it's easier to write characters who aren't already established (or dead). btw, they are using one of the previous Ant-Men. Pym is a character in this title. and since the costume he built, i'm sure that we'll be seeing plenty of him. i'm hoping for a Batman Beyond kind of role with Pym as a much younger version of Bruce Wayne.



oh snap! now i know who that is. i have those Deadpool issues. he would have done well on this book; not that Phil Hester won't.

Now you are making it sound like an All New Atom copy.

Will.S
07-16-2006, 04:43 PM
Isn't this Ant-Man supposed to appear in the Civil War min as well?

Haunt
07-17-2006, 08:56 AM
Now you are making it sound like an All New Atom copy.

in a superficial sense. but some of the best titles started out as imitations of the another. the original Ant-Man was an attempt to capitalize on the success of other shrinking heroes (Dollman, the Atom, etc). the Hulk is a twist on the Frankenstein's Monster tale; not to mention Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde. who cares; if it's entertaining? and, as far as i can tell, Ray Palmer is staying out of the new Atom's life; as much as possible. and the new Atom isn't two SHIELD agents or the 'worst superhero ever.' he's a scientist and a teacher; exactly like Ray Palmer. so i'd say that Kirkman has won points just for trying something different. he isn't making an imitation Pym. but that's just how i see it. i, personally, don't think you should pick up the new Ant-Man series. it's obviously not marketed towards you.

Isn't this Ant-Man supposed to appear in the Civil War min as well?


when i asked Tom Brevoort, he said that they don't know yet. but, if he does appear, it will be after the 4th issue of Civil War. makes sense because the first issue of Irredeemable Ant-Man doesn't come out until October. it might be a really small appearance, like Thunderclap got. i'm hoping that he gets beat up trying to impersonate Spiderman.

mandog
07-17-2006, 09:39 AM
Its Kirkman so I'll give it a shot.

Sundance62
07-17-2006, 10:26 AM
costume looks very derivative to me...bordering on dumb - Beetle meets Booster Gold. Might give #1 a read anyway, but it'll take some very clever plotting to make this appealing, IMO.

Fatguy
07-17-2006, 12:49 PM
I read the Kirkman interview, and he made it sound very interesting, definetly gonna pick it up. I like the look of the costume too :cool:

I have a strange affinity for shrinking heroes these days...

Haunt
07-17-2006, 01:51 PM
costume looks very derivative to me...bordering on dumb - Beetle meets Booster Gold. Might give #1 a read anyway, but it'll take some very clever plotting to make this appealing, IMO.

cool costumes are overrated. i'd rather the focus be on the personality of the hero.

Effect
07-17-2006, 02:19 PM
Still reading the thread but really what is so interesting about Ant-Man? When I think of the name I think of a guy that can talk with ants. How is that interesting? What kind of hero is he? Who are his enemies, giant roaches, etc? Just how does the character itself work or worked before?

drwho
07-17-2006, 02:33 PM
Well original AntMan had arch nemises he battled like EGG Head. He did hero work but did get help from bugs. This new Antman will bee....???

Haunt
07-17-2006, 03:42 PM
Still reading the thread but really what is so interesting about Ant-Man? When I think of the name I think of a guy that can talk with ants. How is that interesting? What kind of hero is he? Who are his enemies, giant roaches, etc? Just how does the character itself work or worked before?


there's nothing interesting about Ant-Man. this new title is about two SHIELD agents who find a suit that gives them power and what they do with the suit. also, this new guy isn't supposed to be much of 'hero.' it's an exercise in what happens when Uncle Ben isn't around to teach his nephew that with great power comes responsibility. and a lot of the series will also be devoted to the behind the scenes stuff at S.H.I.E.L.D. so think of it as a spy book. and what better set of powers for a spy than the ability to alter one's size and 'see' through a thousand eyes (insects). his enemies haven't been revealed yet but i don't see anyone being off-limit, since this is also a SHIELD title.

Well original AntMan had arch nemises he battled like EGG Head. He did hero work but did get help from bugs. This new Antman will bee....???


the original Ant-Man was super lame and his rogues gallery reflected that. it was a different time period where little kids were entertained by generic communist thugs and a guy whose only power was a plastic cap with a horn on it. this new Ant-Man's worst enemy is himself; according to the writer. because he now has armor, i'd expect the threat level of his rogues gallery to increase. i'd also expect a few of Pym's classic foes to get revamped.

or there are always these guys for a rogues gallery...
http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NJF5art/ANTMAN001_colcov.jpg

Phil Hester
07-17-2006, 10:23 PM
I hope those of you who give it a try enjoy it. Of course, we won't know until October. Ant-Man is essentially a new character in this series- new identity, new costume, new villains, new problems. What we're trying to explore is what happens when super powers of any kind are dropped on someone utterly unprepared for and undeserving of them.

I can't guarantee you'll like it. I can guarantee you will not be bored by it.

Haunt
07-18-2006, 03:27 PM
I hope those of you who give it a try enjoy it. Of course, we won't know until October. Ant-Man is essentially a new character in this series- new identity, new costume, new villains, new problems. What we're trying to explore is what happens when super powers of any kind are dropped on someone utterly unprepared for and undeserving of them.

I can't guarantee you'll like it. I can guarantee you will not be bored by it.


works for me. So, what marvel villains (doesn't have to be for the new series) would you most like to draw? i like your MODOK. :)

drwho
07-18-2006, 03:36 PM
I really think Sleep Walker would make a great guest star. Would be the only reason I would buy it.http://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/sleepwalker1/cover.jpg

Haunt
07-18-2006, 03:46 PM
I really think Sleep Walker would make a great guest star. Would be the only reason I would buy it.


i guess it's possible. Robert Kirkman did write that version of Sleepwalker that's in your avatar. actually, i think the guy underneath the new Ant-Man costume shares a few personality traits with the new Sleepwalker also created (who missed out on being made into a series, iirc).

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=2885
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/dailydavidsw.htm

Will.S
07-18-2006, 04:03 PM
Haunt has officially become the Irredeemable Ant-Man's publicist.

drwho
07-18-2006, 04:22 PM
Oh wow I never knew that was him on Sleep Walker. Guess someone did get work from off of the Marvel Epic line. I really think he would do well with a Marvel Knights mini with covers done by the marvel zombies guy.

Haunt
07-18-2006, 04:30 PM
Haunt has officially become the Irredeemable Ant-Man's publicist.

sweet. how much do i get paid and do i have to change my name to the Irredeemable Haunt? :evilsmile

TonySoprano
07-18-2006, 08:37 PM
Do you plan on pulling this book? Why? or Why not?

Young Avenger
07-18-2006, 08:38 PM
I'm planning out pulling the book because I want to read about the world's worst superhero.

Doom Hammer
07-18-2006, 08:53 PM
Aside from his (c'mon) awful Ultimate X-Men, Robert Kirkman rocks. And when Phil Hester's on his game, I honestly adore his art. So, these two components coupled with a great, interesting premise mean I'm buying, I guess. Neat.

Haunt
07-18-2006, 09:05 PM
Do you plan on pulling this book? Why? or Why not?


A) i'll pull it because i'm a whore.

or

B) lately, there have been several new superheroes introduced to the Marvel Universe. and all of them are really sweet little kids who, honest-to-gosh, want to follow in the footsteps of heroes like Spiderman and Captain America. i could never be that pure of a hero so i'm glad that someone finally created a character like the new Ant-Man. he falls somewhere inbetween the Hood (a criminal not even remotely pretending to be a hero) and any one of the Thunderbolts (villains slowly learning but trying to be heroes). he'll play superhero but he's in it for himself.

PastePotPete
07-18-2006, 09:44 PM
I really dont expect this series to last. I would have at least tried it if Marvel used one of the previous ones. Some shield agent gets shrinking powers whoah how exciting.:rolleyes:

You're really missing the point. Your Sleepwalker thing is wierd. When did we start talking about Sleepwalker? Go start a Sleepwalker thread.

Anyway...

"World's Worst Superhero" is a great line. It hooked me in. If Kirkman and Hester being on the book didn't already do the job.

When will people stop being hung up on powers? People who are hung up on powers are trying to live vicariously through the characters, AND seem to have no discernible sense of humor. If having the most devastating and tactically advantageous powers was a valid criteria for liking or disliking a character we'd all be stuck reading Superman and Wolverine and...nothing else.

Hey, Spiderman's powers would sound pretty silly if you'd never heard of him before.

Haunt
07-18-2006, 10:05 PM
You're really missing the point. Your Sleepwalker thing is wierd. When did we start talking about Sleepwalker? Go start a Sleepwalker thread.

Anyway...

"World's Worst Superhero" is a great line. It hooked me in. If Kirkman and Hester being on the book didn't already do the job.

When will people stop being hung up on powers? People who are hung up on powers are trying to live vicariously through the characters, AND seem to have no discernible sense of humor. If having the most devastating and tactically advantageous powers was a valid criteria for liking or disliking a character we'd all be stuck reading Superman and Wolverine and...nothing else.

Hey, Spiderman's powers would sound pretty silly if you'd never heard of him before.


heyy! don't scare him off. he was keeping the thread going. anyways, it was almost on topic since Kirkman likes Sleepwalker, too. they are both strange looking characters with even stranger powers. ;)

Frank
07-18-2006, 10:40 PM
I keep hearing about the ideas and it make me want to read the book but I look at the images and it just looks too goofy. The antennas make him look like the freaking Tick! Return him to something more like the old school sci-fi look of the original Ant-Man and I would buy it.

Haunt
07-18-2006, 10:49 PM
I keep hearing about the ideas and it make me want to read the book but I look at the images and it just looks too goofy. The antennas make him look like the freaking Tick! Return him to something more like the old school sci-fi look of the original Ant-Man and I would buy it.


fair enough.


but you really find the following less goofy than the new design? :confused:

http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=85701589448%2039

http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=85701589448%2038

http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=85701589448%2035

versus

http://images.comicbookresources.com/bmb/20060628/ANTMAN002003_col.jpg
http://images.comicbookresources.com/bmb/20060628/ANTMAN002004_col.jpg

just me but i think his new look is more ant-like. and if it was going to be changed at all, i'd hope for something more like the second ant-man's costume (definately more 'sci fi' than hank's original).
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=page1&issue=05819410642%2073
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=05880733671%201

Frank
07-18-2006, 11:01 PM
fair enough.


but you really find the following less goofy than the new design? :confused:

http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=85701589448%2039

http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=85701589448%2038

http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=85701589448%2035

versus

http://images.comicbookresources.com/bmb/20060628/ANTMAN002003_col.jpg
http://images.comicbookresources.com/bmb/20060628/ANTMAN002004_col.jpg

just me but i think his new look is more ant-like. and if it was going to be changed at all, i'd hope for something more like the second ant-man's costume (definately more 'sci fi' than hank's original).
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=page1&issue=05819410642%2073
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=05880733671%201

I look at those and one thing comes to mind: nothing beats Jack Kirby! :D

Man the original Henry Pym costume was awesome. The whole thing from the colours, to this huge helmet cannot be beat.

If there`s a movie one day, I want to see the Pym version with the great perspectives and so forth.

Haunt
07-19-2006, 09:31 AM
I look at those and one thing comes to mind: nothing beats Jack Kirby! :D

Man the original Henry Pym costume was awesome. The whole thing from the colours, to this huge helmet cannot be beat.

If there`s a movie one day, I want to see the Pym version with the great perspectives and so forth.


he's wearing little elf boots and a bowl on his head. the costume doesn't say "evil-doers beware." it says, "turn my helmet around and give me a wedgie." but to each their own.


no wonder he had self-esteem problems

BizarroBeachHead
07-19-2006, 09:39 AM
I dig the new costume, but I what I really want is more, "Obey your leader! The Ant Man commands you!" commands.

Haunt
07-19-2006, 09:45 AM
I dig the new costume, but I what I really want is more, "Obey your leader! The Ant Man commands you!" commands.


you'll notice that the ants later led Pym right into a flypaper trap. how about a "please" in those commands, Pym buddy? :)

TheHipHopZombie
07-30-2006, 02:05 AM
I look at those and one thing comes to mind: nothing beats Jack Kirby! :D

Man the original Henry Pym costume was awesome. The whole thing from the colours, to this huge helmet cannot be beat.

If there`s a movie one day, I want to see the Pym version with the great perspectives and so forth.

yea, ive grown pretty fond of the costume also, not really the whole costume entirely..
but that goofy a$$ helmet he wore.
all in all I think the new costume looks decent as well.
I just wish they got rid of those two metal bulb looking things at the end of the antenas.
gotta agree it does look a tad tickish.

FrogMan
08-24-2006, 06:06 PM
Here's where you can talk about the upcoming Ant-Man series, by Robert Kirkman.

Does anyone else hope we may get to see the Micronauts/Microns (whatever they go by today) in this series?

glue
08-24-2006, 06:37 PM
When does the first issue come out? I'm not reading any Marvel titles right now, know nothing about Ant-Man, am not a big Kirkman fan, and yet I'm interested in this. It's a mini, right?

Expletive Deleted
08-24-2006, 06:39 PM
October. It's an ongoing.

Haunt
08-24-2006, 06:45 PM
yea, ive grown pretty fond of the costume also, not really the whole costume entirely..
but that goofy a$$ helmet he wore.
all in all I think the new costume looks decent as well.
I just wish they got rid of those two metal bulb looking things at the end of the antenas.
gotta agree it does look a tad tickish.

i agree. but i'm not sure what they would look like without the microphones on the end. i was hoping they'd look like the character Grasshopper's antennae from GLA. can't say that i ever liked Pym's helmet. it's hard to draw and too clunky looking to fight in. i think Scott Lang's helmet (both of them) was cooler. but that's just me.

i like that they look sharp in this picture; like devil horns...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/AnextAntman.JPG

and this one is very "sci-fi"; like something you wouldn't want to bump into i a dark alley.
http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/antman.jpg
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/3/36/Ant-Man%28Lang%29_Head.jpg

Here's where you can talk about the upcoming Ant-Man series, by Robert Kirkman.

Does anyone else hope we may get to see the Micronauts/Microns (whatever they go by today) in this series?


the other Ant-Man ran into them, so why not? Phil Hester did say that he likes Bug. :)

glue
08-24-2006, 08:10 PM
October. It's an ongoing.

Those beans are of the cool variety. Thank you, sir.

Haunt
09-03-2006, 06:05 PM
i found another Wizard magazine interview with Irredeemable Ant-Man artist Phil Hester. for some reason, the original interview was taken down. this is a link to cached one. it does give a lot more insight into why the costume looks how it does (as opposed to something more 'classic'). enjoy.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/001537210.cfm

Young Avenger
09-03-2006, 09:28 PM
That was a good interview. Personally, I like the new costume more than the classic and Scott Lang costumes.

Will.S
09-03-2006, 09:34 PM
i found another Wizard magazine interview with Irredeemable Ant-Man artist Phil Hester. for some reason, the original interview was taken down. this is a link to cached one. it does give a lot more insight into why the costume looks how it does (as opposed to something more 'classic'). enjoy.

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:61xSbMaAhEIJ:www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/001537210.cfm+Kirkman+Ant-Man&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=23
I love the antennae expressions myself.

Sophisticated_Gamer
09-03-2006, 11:42 PM
So is this like a new guy with the same technology? Kindoff like blue beetle? Right?

dopexvii
09-04-2006, 06:17 AM
hmm im not sure what to make of the costume
whats with the wee extendable legs? dont tell me stark had a hand in this costume too ?
as for the coolest, i have to say im quite fond of Langs costume i liked the sci-fi style helmet

Zombienorthstar
09-04-2006, 08:30 AM
I too prefer the Scott Lang helmet.

Atom_basher
09-04-2006, 09:29 AM
i really like scott langs uniform, it stands out inmho, and itlooks just as good ona female.

Haunt
09-04-2006, 10:36 AM
So is this like a new guy with the same technology? Kindoff like blue beetle? Right?

it's newer technology but, yeah, a new guy (2 guys actually) swiped it from Pym's lab aboard the Helicarrier. and, from what i know, Ant-Man doesn't have much in common with Blue Beetle. isn't the new Blue Beetle in possession of powers that Ted didn't have? he seems more magical than tech-based but i haven't actually read the series, yet.

hmm im not sure what to make of the costume
whats with the wee extendable legs? dont tell me stark had a hand in this costume too ?
as for the coolest, i have to say im quite fond of Langs costume i liked the sci-fi style helmet

i liked Lang's costume but i don't think it would have worked for this new character/i'd rather it just be Scott's helmet and every ant-man have their own look. and the legs are really cool, imo. they fit an Ant-Man better than they do a spiderman. Stark had no hand in it. it's Pym trying something new; creating an armor instead of just a helmet for SHIELD.

I love the antennae expressions myself.


i especially like the "suprised" and "yik" expressions.

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/001537/Ant-1.jpg

Joey Friday
09-04-2006, 02:34 PM
Ant-Man's not even out yet and see pages of discussions about all over other comicbook forums. Looks like people are really excited about it.:cool:

Haunt
09-04-2006, 03:21 PM
Ant-Man's not even out yet and see pages of discussions about all over other comicbook forums. Looks like people are really excited about it.:cool:


Great creative team. Great character. SHIELD related yet not bogged down by Civil War continuity. what's not to be excited about? i sort of wish Marvel would promote it some more but i guess word of mouth will have to do.

oh and here's another interview with the artist Phil Hester.
http://www.revenantmedia.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=415&Itemid=37

Haunt
09-09-2006, 05:51 PM
there's some new artwork up on Tom Brevoort's blog. it's a panel from Irredeemable Ant-Man #2. i really like the leg torchs. the appendages really aren't anything like Iron Spidey's. they are more similar to Doc Ock's arms.

http://www.marvel.com/blogs/Tom%20Brevoort/

can anyone identify the two villains in the panel? they might have just been made up for the Enemy of the State crossover.

Young Avenger
09-09-2006, 06:52 PM
The page looks awesome. Haunt, you getting the Civil War: Choosing Sides one-shot? That's where the Irredeemable Ant-Man will make his debut

Will.S
09-09-2006, 07:05 PM
there's some new artwork up on Tom Brevoort's blog. it's a panel from Irredeemable Ant-Man #2. i really like the leg torchs. the appendages really aren't anything like Iron Spidey's. they are more similar to Doc Ock's arms.

http://www.marvel.com/blogs/Tom%20Brevoort/

can anyone identify the two villains in the panel? they might have just been made up for the Enemy of the State crossover.
Looks great, hilarious shrinking action.

The character already looks pretty charming.

Haunt
09-10-2006, 04:08 PM
The page looks awesome. Haunt, you getting the Civil War: Choosing Sides one-shot? That's where the Irredeemable Ant-Man will make his debut

probably. i'm sort of curious about their handling of US AGent.

Looks great, hilarious shrinking action.

The character already looks pretty charming.

i'm pretty sure that the scene in the link is a flashback. the SHIELD agent with the beard looks exactly like the guy Iron Maniac killed 2 issues of Marvel Team-Up, ago. and, yeah, i was pleasantly surprised by the action. i was kind of worried that the mechanical arms would come off as too iron spideyish. but they really do look functional. it's too bad that none of the other ant-men got to use anything so cool.

Haunt
09-15-2006, 02:12 PM
so, what did everybody think of the preview?

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=8367


not much happened but i was entertained/made curious enough to pick it up. it was different, as promised.

drwho
09-15-2006, 03:35 PM
Ok so I am impressed with the preview. I might give this book's first issue a second look when it comes out.

Haunt
09-15-2006, 03:51 PM
Ok so I am impressed with the preview. I might give this book's first issue a second look when it comes out.


i just want to see if that girl actually shows up for the dinner date and if Ant-Man actually shows up in costume. the guy is supposed to be on the run, afterall. what is he thinking?

P.S. that cover is brilliant.
http://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/marvelcomics/previews20060915/irred_antmn-0.jpg

Captain Exaggeration
09-15-2006, 04:06 PM
Yippy for jet-pack SHIELD astronauts :D !

Captain Exaggeration
09-15-2006, 04:14 PM
I took a look at some of the other previews too. Dr. Strange looks good and... they brought back the Space Phantom!

Young Avenger
09-15-2006, 04:43 PM
The preview was great.

Violently Apathetic
09-15-2006, 04:51 PM
Okay, I'm so getting this series now, that cover won me over. Plus his costume is really...cute.

Haunt
09-15-2006, 04:57 PM
I took a look at some of the other previews too. Dr. Strange looks good and... they brought back the Space Phantom!

Space Phantom was in the last issue, as well. i'll probably give Doc Strange a look; mostly for Iron Fist and Night Nurse.

Yippy for jet-pack SHIELD astronauts :D !


i was surprised that image. it's not often that you see SHIELDnauts in action. love the old fashioned bubble helmets.

The preview was great.


that Bill Crabtree guy really makes a difference. the finished worked looked a helluva lot better than some of the previews i saw. i like how the metallic parts of the armor look, so much better now. :)

Lex
09-15-2006, 09:36 PM
That preview was awesome! I'm very excited about this book. And the cover was brilliant.

Young Avenger
09-15-2006, 09:42 PM
I agree, the cover is awesome. I hope we see him pick pocket some criminals. That would own

Haunt
09-15-2006, 09:49 PM
I agree, the cover is awesome. I hope we see him pick pocket some criminals. That would own

unless he pick pocketed someone really dangerous like the Taskmaster.

Young Avenger
09-15-2006, 09:59 PM
unless he pick pocketed someone really dangerous like the Taskmaster.

Taskmaster doesn't seem like the kinda of guy that will carry his wallet around while on the job. Maybe someone like Flag Smasher. He looks like someone who would carry money around.

Haunt
09-16-2006, 06:20 PM
Taskmaster doesn't seem like the kinda of guy that will carry his wallet around while on the job. Maybe someone like Flag Smasher. He looks like someone who would carry money around.


i bet Stilt-Man carries a fat wallet in that armor. and i find it hard to believe that Dr.Doom travels anywhere without a credit card.

Doom Hammer
09-16-2006, 10:22 PM
That preview blew away my expectations. I've been shying away from traditional super-hero comics, but that was far from traditional. "Um. I'll be the guy in the Ant-Man costume." Seriously, genius. Can not wait for this.

And Haunt, I thought the Iron Maniac made a point of NOT killing that SHIELD agent. Something like, "You're lucky I'm in a good mood." No? I recognized him, too, which is why I mention it.

And the costume has totally grown on me. I love it now, antennae and all.

Haunt
09-17-2006, 03:44 PM
That preview blew away my expectations. I've been shying away from traditional super-hero comics, but that was far from traditional. "Um. I'll be the guy in the Ant-Man costume." Seriously, genius. Can not wait for this.

i just think it's funny because the guy basically used his saving her to get a date. it's odd that more heroes haven't done that, even if it's unethical. i wonder why the pro-registration side hasn't taken down, yet. he couldn't be hiding out and eating at a restaraunt (in costume) at the same time.

And Haunt, I thought the Iron Maniac made a point of NOT killing that SHIELD agent. Something like, "You're lucky I'm in a good mood." No? I recognized him, too, which is why I mention it.

you're talking about Mitch Carson, right? yeah, i knew he wasn't going to die in Marvel Team-up because Kirkman already mentioned him being in the series.
but there was another SHIELD agent that i remember from Marvel Team-Up and the preview of IA#2.

Haunt
09-19-2006, 02:09 PM
DECEMBER SOLICIT

http://images.comicbookresources.com/solicits/marvelcomics/200612/ANTMAN003_colcov.jpg

THE IRREDEEMABLE ANT-MAN #3
Written by ROBERT KIRKMAN
Pencils & Cover by PHIL HESTER
Downtime! While grieving for the loss of friends and colleagues after a massive attack on the S.H.I.E.L.D. Helicarrier, ANT-MAN returns home to the small town he grew up in--where he gets into some small-time trouble with some small time crooks. Luckily, Ant-Man is just the right size for such an adversary. Also featuring some absolutely rotten things done by our titular hero--that’s where the “irredeemable” part comes in!
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99

interesting cover

Young Avenger
09-19-2006, 06:13 PM
DECEMBER SOLICIT

http://images.comicbookresources.com/solicits/marvelcomics/200612/ANTMAN003_colcov.jpg

THE IRREDEEMABLE ANT-MAN #3
Written by ROBERT KIRKMAN
Pencils & Cover by PHIL HESTER
Downtime! While grieving for the loss of friends and colleagues after a massive attack on the S.H.I.E.L.D. Helicarrier, ANT-MAN returns home to the small town he grew up in--where he gets into some small-time trouble with some small time crooks. Luckily, Ant-Man is just the right size for such an adversary. Also featuring some absolutely rotten things done by our titular hero--that’s where the “irredeemable” part comes in!
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99

interesting cover

I bet those small time crooks were his childhood bullies and he's coming back to kick their asses with the Ant-Man armor.

Haunt
09-19-2006, 06:16 PM
I bet those small time crooks were his childhood bullies and he's coming back to kick their asses with the Ant-Man armor.

and my money's on those small-time crooks being former associates/people he's screwed over in the past. he strikes me more as the former-bully type than bullied. either way, i'm intrigued. :)