Why should you live?

[o1pickleboy]

Ok there is a virus that is going to kill everyone. Except they have found a cure, but there is only a limited amount of doses. So they have to pick and choose who gets it. So make your case. Why should they cure you? Why should you live?

[Ed Cunard]

Eh. I'll take the virus--I'm not going to be particularly useful in the new paradigm.

[Guapo Méndez]

Cure my kids. I don't give a fuck about me.

[Dreadstar]

I'm 50, and would have not nearly enough assets to offset that I'm 50. I'd argue for my kid. If rejected, I'd just say fuck it and try to take the antivirus (or at least some of it) and preserve some of MY people for my own selfish reasons and choices. What are they going to do when I try to take it by force? Kill me?

[Typo Lad]

If my dying saves another life, then it is my halachik obligation to die.

[Gilda Dent]

There are far too many people worthy to waste a dose on me. Give it to to people like Emily or Sabrinaset. Heck, given that scanario, Emily might be one of the people responsible for developing the innoculant.

GILDA

[JeffreyWKramer]

If my dying saves another life, then it is my halachik obligation to die.

So, what happens if two people find themselves in a situation in which only one can survive for some reason? Like, say, a plane is going down, and only one parachute is available.

[Grazzt]

Well, I better get my affairs in order...

Is it just me, or is this board gonna resemble Jonestown after the virus hits? ;)

[Michael P]

How painful a death are we talking here?

[Gilda Dent]

So, what happens if two people find themselves in a situation in which only one can survive for some reason? Like, say, a plane is going down, and only one parachute is available.

Or what if it's three people: A rabbi, a priest, and a black guy?

GILDA

[Typo Lad]

So, what happens if two people find themselves in a situation in which only one can survive for some reason? Like, say, a plane is going down, and only one parachute is available.

I stay, they go.

There's a Hebrew term for it. It means "What makes my blood more precious than yours?"

[HomerJay]

Cure my kids. I don't give a fuck about me.
Ditto.
I've had a good run.

[Typo Lad]

Or what if it's three people: A rabbi, a priest, and a black guy?

The Rabbi gives the parachute to the black guy and the priest kills him and takes it.

[Dreadstar]

How painful a death are we talking here?

For me? .223 to the chest, most likely.

[o1pickleboy]

Cure my kids. I don't give a fuck about me.


Let's offset this with. Everyone under 16 isn't affected by the virus. Now your kids are going to live? Who is going to take care of them if you die?

[Dreadstar]

The Rabbi gives the parachute to the black guy and the priest kills him and takes it.

Smart priest.

[JeffreyWKramer]

I stay, they go.

There's a Hebrew term for it. It means "What makes my blood more precious than yours?"

But if the other guy is one of your same beliefs, shouldn't he also say "you go, I stay?"

Are you both obligated to be dead, then? Or do you "rock/paper/scissors" it?

[Typo Lad]

But if the other guy is one of your same beliefs, shouldn't he also say "you go, I stay?"

Are you both obligated to be dead, then? Or do you "rock/paper/scissors" it?

Good question. I'm guessing "rock, paper scissors" would be the way to go. I know there's something int he Talmud about what to do. Gotta check.

[Dreadstar]

Let's offset this with. Everyone under 16 isn't affected by the virus. Now your kids are going to live? Who is going to take care of them if you die?

Interesting. Mine's 16, but I'll play. NOW, I'd have less of a reason to go postal, it's true. Now I'd spend the last bit of time I had building a library of stuff like Foxfire books and the like and imparting my wisdom to him as far as I could. It'd be up to him to grow up and survive, good luck to him. Children and babes? No idea.

[Gilda Dent]

The Rabbi gives the parachute to the black guy and the priest kills him and takes it.

I always wondered what the punchline to that was. They don't get to it in the song.

GILDA

[i_mmmchocolate]

Everyone's being so unselfish, very cool. CBR won't be the same without you!

[Dreadstar]

Everyone's being so unselfish, very cool. CBR won't be the same without you!

HAR! You and me, Lena, we'll rule CBR.

Hey, didn't you go to work?

[i_mmmchocolate]

HAR! You and me, Lena, we'll rule CBR.

Hey, didn't you go to work?

Nope, not for another 30 minutes.

[Forefinger]

I'll be the one.

I'm fairly intelligent and healthy. My genes would be good for the future generations of humans. Of course, they will all worship Lobo and wear Shark Boy masks.

[Ed Cunard]

Everyone's being so unselfish, very cool. CBR won't be the same without you!

Well, it could be selfish, depending on how you look at it--not wanting to live without certain people or without the comforts of society to which we've grown accustomed. Or even not wanting to live with a bunch of prats who are campaigning for the right to stick around so they can shape their vision of the future.

[Oke-Doke]

I would suggest we roll dice and whoever gets the largest number gets the treatment.

[hoffmandu]

Because I am a Jedi, like my Father before me........*throws lightsaber into corner

[Calybos]

Depending on how much suffering the virus causes, it would be tempting to just pour the cure--the entire supply--down the drain.

Because really, if all humanity disappeared from the earth... would that be a BAD thing?

[Michael P]

I haven't decided whether I'd campaign for survival or not, but I think we can all agree that no one who works in government should get a dose.

[i_mmmchocolate]

Well, it could be selfish, depending on how you look at it--not wanting to live without certain people or without the comforts of society to which we've grown accustomed. Or even not wanting to live with a bunch of prats who are campaigning for the right to stick around so they can shape their vision of the future.
Maybe, but you'd still be sacrificing yourself for another human being, you do-gooder-you.

[Forefinger]

Well, it could be selfish, depending on how you look at it--not wanting to live without certain people or without the comforts of society to which we've grown accustomed. Or even not wanting to live with a bunch of prats who are campaigning for the right to stick around so they can shape their vision of the future.
Oh, so I'm a prat now? You just made the list!

[Dreadstar]

Because really, if all humanity disappeared from the earth... would that be a BAD thing?

In the terms of humanity (of which I'm a member and therefore my perspective) I'd have to say: Yes. That would be a bad thing.

Now the cockroaches might have a different opinion, but I have no idea since I don't share their perspective.

And for godssakes, think of the Morlocks.

[Michael P]

Maybe, but you'd still be sacrificing yourself for another human being, you do-gooder-you.
Not necessarily. Remember the Jayne principle: Just because a person's actions result in good consequences, does not mean that the action or the person is noble.

[Dreadstar]

I haven't decided whether I'd campaign for survival or not, but I think we can all agree that no one who works in government should get a dose.


Yeah? Well, I'm taking you with me, then.

[i_mmmchocolate]

Not necessarily. Remember the Jayne principle: Just because a person's actions result in good consequences, does not mean that the action or the person is noble.

Okay, Nerd.

[Ed Cunard]

Maybe, but you'd still be sacrificing yourself for another human being, you do-gooder-you.

Or I'm helping to subject them to a life full of prats, suffering, and an aching hole that love used to fill, while I get the blissful emptiness of not existing anymore.

What can I say? It's the optimist in me.

[Dreadstar]

Or I'm helping to subject them to a life full of prats, suffering, and an aching hole that love used to fill, while I get the blissful emptiness of not existing anymore.

What can I say? It's the optimist in me.

I'm going to survive and I know how to brew beer, make wine, and distill moonshine. I'm still a prat, but I'll be a fun prat. I have a few openings left for "peon."

[Ed Cunard]

I'm going to survive and I know how to brew beer, make wine, and distill moonshine. I'm still a prat, but I'll be a fun prat. I have a few openings left for "peon."

My resume and CV are in the mail.

Woo! I'm gonna live! Maybe!

[pennywisdom]

Ok there is a virus that is going to kill everyone. Except they have found a cure, but there is only a limited amount of doses. So they have to pick and choose who gets it. So make your case. Why should they cure you? Why should you live?
I'm being selfless and giving my dosage to Mel Gibson, for he is the only one who can lead us to a better tomorrow. His vision of the future is truly inspiring.



kidding!

[Iangould]

Ok there is a virus that is going to kill everyone. Except they have found a cure, but there is only a limited amount of doses. So they have to pick and choose who gets it. So make your case. Why should they cure you? Why should you live?

Becasue I'm exceptionally smart and a close real-world approximation of Bob Heinlein's generalising specialist.

[Thanos_6383]

Well,if it's time to go,it's time to go.

[Forefinger]

I changed my mind. I usually want to kill myself, so this virus or whatever would save me the trouble.

[Nikita]

Ok there is a virus that is going to kill everyone. Except they have found a cure, but there is only a limited amount of doses. So they have to pick and choose who gets it. So make your case. Why should they cure you? Why should you live?


Because I still haven't experienced a threesome and I'm too young to die! :D


Actually, I'd probably take the virus. There are way more people on this Earth that would deserve the cure more then me.

[Winslow]

It's kind of difficult to say you deserve to live more than someone else.

Wouldn't it be somewhat pathological to believe that?

Isn't believing you deserve to live more than someone else ultimately what a murderer believes?

It could be I'm too dense to "get" what's so tough about this question.

[Rabid Trekkie]

I'm just a waste of resources with no real prospects for a future that would make any real contribution to the world so I'll just go peacefully.

[Night]

Let's offset this with. Everyone under 16 isn't affected by the virus. Now your kids are going to live? Who is going to take care of them if you die? I know this story... it's a bizarro world version of "Left Behind"… Seriously, I know where I’m going after this life. Give mine to someone who hasn’t planned their afterlife logging.

[Gilda Dent]

Let's offset this with. Everyone under 16 isn't affected by the virus. Now your kids are going to live? Who is going to take care of them if you die?

Straczynski beat you to it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_%28series%29)

GILDA

[Sanagi]

I'd say, I'm an artist and entertainer, and I have good genes, so I'll contribute in many ways to the well-being of the human race. If they don't buy that, I'm screwed, because in terms of survival skills I'm pretty useless. But yeah, I would make the attempt to get the cure.

I haven't decided whether I'd campaign for survival or not, but I think we can all agree that no one who works in government should get a dose.
Oh definitely.

Of course, if this scenario actually happened, they'd use up the cure on themselves and their families and never mention it to the public.

[K'Nort]

I haven't decided whether I'd campaign for survival or not, but I think we can all agree that no one who works in government should get a dose.

Um, what level(s) of government?

Not that I'd try for it anyway.

[Dan Apodaca]

Once they saw my face, they wouldn't let me die.

[The Watcher]

Depending on how much suffering the virus causes, it would be tempting to just pour the cure--the entire supply--down the drain.

Because really, if all humanity disappeared from the earth... would that be a BAD thing?*tackles Calybos and wrestles the cure away from him before it goes down the drain*

There, I just saved human race. I think that qualifies me for a dose. :)

[Aelo]

Well, I can't really think of any way to justify why I deserve to live any more than anyone else. So, no cure for me, I guess. However, I refuse to go out like that, so if they don't want to give me the cure, I'll just have to make sure no one else gets it either...

[pennywisdom]

Bah, this thread is pathetic.

You mean to tell me there's not a single person here on CBR who deserves to survive the legacy? Every single post is like "Meh... I'm just a schlub. I'll be nice and give my dose to someone useful..."

C'mon people! Have some self-esteem! Where are the CBR doctors and scientists? Law makers and honest politicians? Artists and musicians and writers?

Speak up! CBR members are making the world a better place. Each and every one of us should be the very first people on the planet considered for the virus cure. We are the future!

[Rachel Grey]

Give someone else my shot. After oh what, 6 months, a couple of years maybe I'll be back from the White Hot Room to lead a cult that will pave the way for Good Things like Everlasting Chocolate and Instant Orgasms.

It'll be sweet.

[Jack Zodiac]

I'd refuse the anti-virus. Under one condition!

The only people to receive the cure would be the world's top scientists. As the sole survivors of the planet Earth, it is their responsibility to dedicate the remainder of their existence to unlocking the secrets of time travel, then return to the past with a limitless supply of said anti-virus.

[howyadoin]

I'm 50, and would have not nearly enough assets to offset that I'm 50. I'd argue for my kid. If rejected, I'd just say fuck it and try to take the antivirus (or at least some of it) and preserve some of MY people for my own selfish reasons and choices. What are they going to do when I try to take it by force? Kill me?Shit, man. You should live to preserve the Book of Revenge.

[howyadoin]

Bah, this thread is pathetic.

You mean to tell me there's not a single person here on CBR who deserves to survive the legacy?http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c109/partytillyoupuke/Birthday%202006/IMG_0003.jpg

[Tages]

Becasue I'm exceptionally smart and a close real-world approximation of Bob Heinlein's generalising specialist.
Nope. You dislike guns. Heinlein character=/=You.

There's no particularly compelling reason why I should get the dose, but whenever I hear these "Would you die to save another" scenarios I always ask for more info before deciding. Sure, it'd be very noble and good to die to save the life of another, unless that other person is a child molestor, serial killer or war criminal. In that case, my selfishly living at the cost of their deaths is extremely non-tragic and non-troubling.

[Tages]

Depending on how much suffering the virus causes, it would be tempting to just pour the cure--the entire supply--down the drain.

Because really, if all humanity disappeared from the earth... would that be a BAD thing?
Well, seeing as "good" and "bad" don't have a context without intelligent beings around to appreciate them, yes, it would be a very bad thing.

[atoningunifex]

A world where the majority of the population is under 16?

No thank you. I'd rather not live on Planet Emo.

[Calybos]

Well, seeing as "good" and "bad" don't have a context without intelligent beings around to appreciate them, yes, it would be a very bad thing.
I don't think the dolphins would agree.

[Valmore]

I should have no problem, sine I shall be moved to an underground Vault-Tec Vault, which can withstand both nuclear holocaust and other world-shattering events. Years later, I will be asked to leave the Vault to look for a replacement water chip...

[Iangould]

But wait until your glasses break just as you're about to start reading.

[K'Nort]

I should have no problem, sine I shall be moved to an underground Vault-Tec Vault, which can withstand both nuclear holocaust and other world-shattering events. Years later, I will be asked to leave the Vault to look for a replacement water chip...

And the Wanamingos get you.

[o1pickleboy]

A world where the majority of the population is under 16?

No thank you. I'd rather not live on Planet Emo.

OK, let's offset this problem.

Instead of the kids living automaticly if there are under 16. If you get the cure it cures your family too. (Genetic antibodies if that helps paint the picture for you)


There no more ripping off JMS and no emo effect.

[Erebus]

I'll take the virus. Hopefully, I'll survive and mutate into a super-hero.

[Pól Rua]

Um... Comedy Relief?

I got nuthin'. :(

[Iangould]

What family are we talking about here

With some of my relatives, if they're going to survive I think I'll take my chances with the virus.

[Clint Barton]

I've got a super enhanced healing factor. I'm not worried in the least.

[o1pickleboy]

What family are we talking about here

With some of my relatives, if they're going to survive I think I'll take my chances with the virus.


Well I brought up genetics so I would assume the closer DNA match to the bettter chance your cured antibodies would save them. So full brothers and sisters would have the greatest chance. Your children and Parents would have a lesser chance, but at least a chance.

[lectatege]

Possibly, to quote the Cat in Red Dwarf 'because I have such a cute ass' but probably because I would be a necessary irritant in a world of saints and heroes.

If I cannot be a good example let me serve as a dreadful warning

[drwho]

I'm ready to go so i would be like there is no reason i'm ready to die.

[Gilda Dent]

Well I brought up genetics so I would assume the closer DNA match to the bettter chance your cured antibodies would save them. So full brothers and sisters would have the greatest chance. Your children and Parents would have a lesser chance, but at least a chance.

In terms of genotype, parents, children, and full siblings are all about equally close in that they share half your genes. I say about because parents and off spring share exactly half, while with siblings, depending on which genes were selected during meiosis, you might have slightly more or less.

More importantly, depending on how the dominant and recessive genes pair up, your phenotype could be closer to one sibling than another, one parent, one child, etc. which is why children sometimes look a lot more like one parent than the other and sometimes resemble each other closely or not much at all.

Back on topic, this wouldn't help me. I'm obviously not related genetically to my wife, and our child to be will be adopted, so I'd still say give it to Emily so she can then cure her family or to our baby. I mean, geez, I'm sterile, which should all by itself eliminate me from consideration. A sterile woman with no combat or engineering or other skills practical in survivalist mode is going to be worse than useless.

[Merey]

Well, according to this article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2284783.stm) and other articles like it, natural blondes will be extinct in about 200 years. I'm a natural blonde, so I think this means that my kind may be on the endangered species list. So, yup, for the good of keeping an organic variety of blonde around I will have to be saved. Oh, and I also have a womb.









;)

[Forefinger]

Kill me already!

[Tages]

Well, according to this article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2284783.stm) and other articles like it, natural blondes will be extinct in about 200 years. I'm a natural blonde, so I think this means that my kind may be on the endangered species list. So, yup, for the good of keeping an organic variety of blonde around I will have to be saved. Oh, and I also have a womb.









;)
But there will be no one to have sex with to repopulate the Earth but 14-16 year old boys. Imagine what that'd be like for the rest of your life.

[Dreadstar]

But there will be no one to have sex with to repopulate the Earth but 14-16 year old boys. Imagine what that'd be like for the rest of your life.
Annoying, but brief?

[Merey]

But there will be no one to have sex with to repopulate the Earth but 14-16 year old boys. Imagine what that'd be like for the rest of your life.


Hmm... you do bring up a good point. Although, I think I can wait until they've matured a bit. I'm still relatively young. And all of my various girl parts will still be viable for another two decades.

Oh, who am I kidding, who in their right mind would want to star in X:The Last Woman?

Death, please.

[drwho]

But there will be no one to have sex with to repopulate the Earth but 14-16 year old boys. Imagine what that'd be like for the rest of your life.

Maybe your body will adapt and you can mate with yourself or change sexes.:eek: