War With Atlantis

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from front line 9 description:
The betrayer among the Marvel heroes stands revealed, as war with Atlantis seems inevitable! And Speedball comes face-to-face with his accuser!


well im not sure if this is discussed elsewhere, i coudlnt find it.

so does this mean after civil war is over the next event will be superheros vs atlantis? or does this mean the last little bit of civil war will include altantis?

[The Cool Thatguy]

I'm curious as to why Atlantis might declare war myself. Sure, 'Nita was nuked but that was pretty much her own fault (and I say that as a Warriors fan). 10 Bucks says the pro registration side does somethin' unethical triggering the war.

[Starscream]

Atlantis is already involved.
check the last few Wolverines issues wich deal with Civil War.

in them Wolverine goes out and hunts down Nitro (the guy that killed them people)

dunno how to use spoiler tags so if someoen tells me how to use em il tell.

[Capt Hunter]

Hmmm in the Bendis tapes over at Wordballoon.com, he mentions that he has just re-read the Atlantis Attacks Annuals...

I wonder if the Serpent Crown and the Elder God Set is involved... IMO one of the best summer events ever... I take the time and read them one a year...

[XPac]

I'm curious as to why Atlantis might declare war myself. Sure, 'Nita was nuked but that was pretty much her own fault (and I say that as a Warriors fan). 10 Bucks says the pro registration side does somethin' unethical triggering the war.

It could be that Atlantis wants Nitro, but the US government want to prosecute him instead.

Or maybe the want Namor and the Atlanteans to register since they do operate within US terrirotry from time to time. The person arguably most responsible for the screw up on the New Warrios side is Namorita... that could be their arguement on why Atlanteans need to be regisered too if they're in the US. Though trying to force Namor would be a very bad political mistake... can't imagine they'd want him as an emeny if they can help it.

[Starscream]

It could be that Atlantis wants Nitro, but the US government want to prosecute him instead.

Or maybe the want Namor and the Atlanteans to register since they do operate within US terrirotry from time to time. The person arguably most responsible for the screw up on the New Warrios side is Namorita... that could be their arguement on why Atlanteans need to be regisered too if they're in the US. Though trying to force Namor would be a very bad political mistake... can't imagine they'd want him as an emeny if they can help it.


Wel ya namor wants Nitro cause Namorita was a member of the royal family and in i think it was Wolverine nr43 u see Atlantian soldiers.
i think nitro gets away due to SHIELD interference or whatever (does seem asif someone maybe politician helps Nitro).
Maybe Nitro was helped by a politician or SHIELD agent and Namor finds out and therefor blames them for Namoritas death and theng oes ot war.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Wel ya namor wants Nitro cause Namorita was a member of the royal family and in i think it was Wolverine nr43 u see Atlantian soldiers.
i think nitro gets away due to SHIELD interference or whatever (does seem asif someone maybe politician helps Nitro).
Maybe Nitro was helped by a politician or SHIELD agent and Namor finds out and therefor blames them for Namoritas death and theng oes ot war.


Yeah, but that would fly in the face of Joe Q's statement that no one was behind the Stamford Incident.

Though granted, the reveal in Wolverine that Nitro was given power enhancers undermines that statement on it's own, but I think we need to see to why exactly Nitro was enhanced before jumping to conclusions.

[Markavian]

Namor supplied the Super Steriod Nitro had in a bid to destabilize or Destroy the Surface Worlds Superhumans and Goverments? Look at how Namor Acted in the CW Prequel .. The Sleeper Cell Stealth Terrorist Spies of Namors were here for making War and nothing else... What if Namor has decided to go all Magneto on the World and wage a Blitzkieg against Humanity ? Namor could very well be the Traitor to all the Heroes thats described..Atlantis has invaded New York city several times.:eek:

[Starscream]

@The Cool Thatguy and Markavian

edit:
damn just found the issue seems i mixed up That Story line with anotehr comic book i read recently i fecked up to be short.

Anyway After Nitro blew up the hut killed the SHIELD agents and thinks he killed Wolverine Nitor calls a fancy guy in a BMW and talks about that he killed Wolverine.
it makes me think that the guy in the BMW provided Nitor with the pills and with the hideout and maybe even put him in Stamford.

the big question WHY?

[SnakeEater]

Wel ya namor wants Nitro cause Namorita was a member of the royal family and in i think it was Wolverine nr43 u see Atlantian soldiers.
i think nitro gets away due to SHIELD interference or whatever (does seem asif someone maybe politician helps Nitro).
Maybe Nitro was helped by a politician or SHIELD agent and Namor finds out and therefor blames them for Namoritas death and theng oes ot war.

I've been saying that for a long while. Quesada has said that no one is behind Civil War but the covers and the stories themselves speak another tale. Namor was opposed to the Reg even before it hit paper, and thats based on Illuminati. My belief is a culmination of everything you mentioned. We already know that Wolverine and Namor are going to fight each other to kill Nitro, but we also know nitro was going to spill the beans. Once he does, Namor will fire the opening shot of the war on Atlantis. This however will occur while captain america and the rest of the Anti Reg are in jail. It will be revealed that the man that helped Nitro is this Happy guy that has been with stark throughout the core civil war story. This leads to a bunch of crap between Namor, Stark, The government and the now fully corrupt sheild.

Mark my words, this happy guy seems way to odd. He has been around since Civil War issue one, and he was never seen before because i have all the issue of new avengers and everything else, and i dont know much about Iron man, but this guy isnt even mentioned on Wikipedia. So something is odd

(Edit) he is in fact mentioned, i looked up the wrong thing, but i still say he smells funny

[Rich L]

No-one is behind Civil War per se; instead, what is being revealed in Wolverine is that someone has been powering up villians to cause damage...and that 'someone' appears to be in Damage Control, who clean up after super-powered incidents; they're based in the Flatiron as shown in the last ish of Wolverine.

But they're not behind the SHRA, they're out for profit.

[Starscream]

I've been saying that for a long while. Quesada has said that no one is behind Civil War but the covers and the stories themselves speak another tale. Namor was opposed to the Reg even before it hit paper, and thats based on Illuminati. My belief is a culmination of everything you mentioned. We already know that Wolverine and Namor are going to fight each other to kill Nitro, but we also know nitro was going to spill the beans. Once he does, Namor will fire the opening shot of the war on Atlantis. This however will occur while captain america and the rest of the Anti Reg are in jail. It will be revealed that the man that helped Nitro is this Happy guy that has been with stark throughout the core civil war story. This leads to a bunch of crap between Namor, Stark, The government and the now fully corrupt sheild.

Mark my words, this happy guy seems way to odd. He has been around since Civil War issue one, and he was never seen before because i have all the issue of new avengers and everything else, and i dont know much about Iron man, but this guy isnt even mentioned on Wikipedia. So something is odd

(Edit) he is in fact mentioned, i looked up the wrong thing, but i still say he smells funny

The Mystery man that supplied Nitro with the pills was preparing Nitro (and likely others) for something.
If Nitro did Stamford by accident or if Stamford was part of Mystery mans plan is a question.
Seeing Mystery man dumps Nitro after he attacked Wolverine suggests that Stamford wasnt planned and was simply a screw up by Nitro.

CW/reg act aint planned its simply a reaction of the goverment to Stamford.
Its said the act was old and was laying around for a while in Iluminati and it this was simply the best moment for the goverment to put it to vote.
Cause due to Decimation not many mutants are around so no big war with millions dying and Stamford gave the politicians major support.
So to be short: the moment todo it.


the reason why many think Reg act and stamford is planned is due to the fact that alot of crap is happening.
ive said this in another thread but i think the reason why all this crap is happening is simply again cause its the best moment todo it.
This nut job killing the students at Xaviers, the bombings at X-corp, The Thunderbolts forcing bad guys in their army etc.

them bad guys have been planning this for a while at the current state of the marvel universe etc made it simply the best moment to do it.

many things can trigger Namor going to war, i agree that most likely Namor will find out that Nitro got pills from a human and hel want to know what he had planned with Nitro. if Namor doesnt like the answer i can see him go to war.
atm im stil waiting for the Inhumans reaction.
Black Bolt said: war. after the agents took the terrigan myst/crystals from genosha and i doubt they returned them to the inhumans.
so it will be fun ot see them jump in.

[Rich L]

(Edit) he is in fact mentioned, i looked up the wrong thing, but i still say he smells funny

Happy Hogan has been around - off and on - since Tales of Suspense #45, and is one of Tony's long-time friends and confidants.

If he has anything to do with Civil War at all, I'd be very, very surprised.

[Markavian]

I've been saying that for a long while. Quesada has said that no one is behind Civil War but the covers and the stories themselves speak another tale. Namor was opposed to the Reg even before it hit paper, and thats based on Illuminati. My belief is a culmination of everything you mentioned. We already know that Wolverine and Namor are going to fight each other to kill Nitro, but we also know nitro was going to spill the beans. Once he does, Namor will fire the opening shot of the war on Atlantis. This however will occur while captain america and the rest of the Anti Reg are in jail. It will be revealed that the man that helped Nitro is this Happy guy that has been with stark throughout the core civil war story. This leads to a bunch of crap between Namor, Stark, The government and the now fully corrupt sheild.

Mark my words, this happy guy seems way to odd. He has been around since Civil War issue one, and he was never seen before because i have all the issue of new avengers and everything else, and i dont know much about Iron man, but this guy isnt even mentioned on Wikipedia. So something is odd

(Edit) he is in fact mentioned, i looked up the wrong thing, but i still say he smells funny
Happy Hogan is Tonys Body Guard and chauffeur since the earliest IM Issues. He doesnt have the Smarts I think to be getting and using such Drugs or the Reason as Stark pays well. Maybe the Two Yuppies shown conversing in Wolverine 44 are the Super Steriods Pushers? They could be The New Warriors Reality Shows Producers or something? Be Wild if The Shows Excetutives Decided to up the Ratings by Sponsoring The Villans the Heroes were to Fight ..With each side mostly ignorant of the facts ..Would Reality TV then be Banned? God I hope so!:D

[SnakeEater]

They could be The New Warriors Reality Shows Producers or something? Be Wild if The Shows Excetutives Decided to up the Ratings by Sponsoring The Villans the Heroes were to Fight ..With each side mostly ignorant of the facts ..Would Reality TV then be Banned? God I hope so!:D

I said this before on another thread and a few people started blasting me with the whole "it cant be, because marvel said there is no traitor...blah blah blah" so i kind of got pissed off and never mentioned it again but yeah. These people arent traitors if they are handing out drugs...they are drug dealers and buttholes and thats all. Just because a guy is selling drugs to some lunatic doesnt make him a traitor, it just makes him a jerk and if these guys are the producers...these guys need to get something handed back to them if you know what i mean

[The Cool Thatguy]

In Frontline, one of the ongoing subplots is Atlantis sleeper cells doing...something. Has there been any hint as to why? There have been plenty of references to the government spreading the registration act beyond American borders and onto unwilling nations, but nothing of the sort has happened next. If anything, Atlantis' actions are more of an act of war than the Registration Act, though that might change since Norman bombed so nice, sweet sleeper agents.

[Arti]

Namorita died at Stamford.

[IamtheRock3]

why would he be mad at the goverment for that though

[Haunt]

Namorita died at Stamford.

so did a lot of Stamfordians. i could see Namor hunting down Nitro and killing him but what's his motive for the rest of this? he didn't seem enraged over the death when he met with Black Panther, at least.

[Nate Palm]

In Frontline they said something about Atlantis' state religion being based on living in harmony with nature(or something like that). Maybe Marvel is setting up a holy war thing because of the pollution the surface world creates.

[Haunt]

In Frontline they said something about Atlantis' state religion being based on living in harmony with nature(or something like that). Maybe Marvel is setting up a holy war thing because of the pollution the surface world creates.

y'know what i've never understood about that? Namor's always siccing his sea monsters on the surface world to punish them for polluting. well what the heck happens to the cities they wreck? doesn't that just contribute to further pollution? all of that wreckage has to go somewhere, afterall. flooding New York is just going to bring more crap into the ocean.