what do YOU think are the ages of them

[caats19]

aging is one big ol problem i see with american comics. especialy with DC and their legacy stuff..what age do you see all these guys?
i'd say superman and batman must be like 33-35. aquaman maybe like 35, and ollie 36? he seems older to me. hal jordan i'd say is a lil younger closer to 33 or 34. and barry allen would be i'm not sure really. 34 i'll say. the younger guys like wally or kyle 25 or 26, same with nightwing. tim drake being 19 or 20. this new aquaman looks the same as them. cause that puts dick becoming robin at like 13 or so, so maybe 10 or 12 years have passed? i don't really think the characters can get much older either. i think they need to stay where they are, i couldn't see batman doing much and runnin around at 45. i'd HATE to see the story lines about batman getting older and not being able to do stuff.

[caats19]

atually maybe ollie is like 38 or 39. he just seems older. the elder jsa guys being 60's. and carter hall like 36. i think it's been said that bart allen is 20 now, after getting zoomed ahead

[Armless Penguin]

Actually, physically Ollie is about ten years younger than he should be. Or else I read Smith's run incorrectly, o_O

[Agentum]

Yes he got a new body with 2 arms :D
I hate the new series.

[Gozwald73]

hmmm you must be very young.

Judging by personality and looks:
Aquaman (Orin) looks at least late 40s; Supes looks about mid 40s; Bats is about mid to late 50s; Ollie looks about early 60s and should have remained dead; Dinah used to look about early 40s but now looks more like late 30s. Diana looks about mid 30s; Ralph looks about late 30s; Booster looks about late 20s.

I think the age you are influences how 'old' older people look to you. Remeber how 'big and mature' you thought High Schoolers were when you were in Primary School; and then as you grew beyond those years how 'childlike' those same High Schoolers now looked? It's all a matter of perspective.
:rolleyes:

[Armless Penguin]

hmmm you must be very young.

Judging by personality and looks:
Aquaman (Orin) looks at least late 40s; Supes looks about mid 40s; Bats is about mid to late 50s; Ollie looks about early 60s and should have remained dead; Dinah used to look about early 40s but now looks more like late 30s. Diana looks about mid 30s; Ralph looks about late 30s; Booster looks about late 20s.

I htink the age you are influences how 'old' older people look to you. Remeber how 'big and mature' you thought High Schoolers were when you were in Primary School; and then as you grew beyond those years how 'childlike' those same High Schoolers now looked? It's all a matter of perspective.
:rolleyes:

No, they really don't. Not to me at least. Most of the characters you listed are probably mid-thirties to early-forties, and there's no WAY Batman looks 50 or Ollie looks 60.

I suppose maybe your theory is right then.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Batman - 38
Superman - 33
Wonder Woman - 2327
Flash - 22
Aquaman - 35
Nightwing - 24
Ollie - 42
Hal - 30
Zatanna - 23

[Gozwald73]

Batman - 38
Superman - 33
Wonder Woman - 2327
Flash - 22
Aquaman - 35
Nightwing - 24
Ollie - 42
Hal - 30
Zatanna - 23

haa haa I love the WW joke!

[Bat-Mite]

Zatanna has to be older, possible near 30. When she joined the JLA she was around 23, and that was more than a few years ago.

[Armless Penguin]

Wow, plastic surgery DOES work wonders! Wonder Women that is!

>_>

[Gozwald73]

No, they really don't. Not to me at least. Most of the characters you listed are probably mid-thirties to early-forties, and there's no WAY Batman looks 50 or Ollie looks 60.

I suppose maybe your theory is right then.


Remeber too, that these people are the "Physical Elite" in the DC World. The parents on most of my friends are in their 50s and 60s now, and they are all very fit and active! The comment made about how Bats being 45 and unable to run and do stuff is ridiculous. The sort of debilitation that comes naturally with aging does not normally impact people until around their 60s (and that's the overweight, underactive Western society norm, not Superheroes!).

[Rhydaman]

Remeber too, that these people are the "Physical Elite" in the DC World. The parents on most of my friends are in their 50s and 60s now, and they are all very fit and active! The comment made about how Bats being 45 and unable to run and do stuff is ridiculous. The sort of debilitation that comes naturally with aging does not normally impact people until around their 60s (and that's the overweight, underactive Western society norm, not Superheroes!).
But you wouldn't expect somebody in their mid-40s to be at the peak of physical fitness as Bats is.

I always thought that Hal would be a bit older than the others, like Ollie. Doesn't it take quite a long time to become a test pilot, as he was before he became GL?

[dancj]

But you wouldn't expect somebody in their mid-40s to be at the peak of physical fitness as Bats is.

I'm 34 and I'm past my peak. Bats is mid-late 30's IMO.

I always thought that Hal would be a bit older than the others

Me to. I placed him in the 38-45 sort of range. That said I don't know if he's younger since he came back from being The Spectre

Dan

[Rhydaman]

I'm 34 and I'm past my peak. Bats is mid-late 30's IMO.

The best way of getting approximate ages is using Batman and Nightwing, I think. Bruce was absent from Gotham for 10 years (according to Batman Year 1) returning at the age of 28ish. He took Dick Grayson as his ward the next year (BW 29) when Dick was clearly about 12. Dick is now in his early 20s, so it's been at least 10 years since then. Say, BW 39-40, DG 22-23. Maybe some Lazarus Pit fumes have kept Bruce relatively youthful.

[PastePotPete]

I always saw Batman and Superman sitting permanently around 39, never hitting the big 4-Oh. I think it makes sense for them to be the same age.

Wonderwoman, being formed from clay and blessed by the Gods, is more or less ageless. She probably appears as a perfect 30. Women really attain their greatest level of beauty in their 30s, in my opinion, and Diana is perfect in every way.

Always saw Ollie as maybe a year older than the big two, sitting at 40.

I'd put Hal at 36. Dinah at 34.

But just so you know, I'm pretty positive Morrison says his Batman is 35 in a recent Wizard article. And who are we to argue with Morrison?

[caats19]

somebody at DC on one of their panels said supes is 35ish too

[LordEd1976]

Supes and Bats are probably somewhere around the early to mid 30s leaning more towards the mid. Wonder Woman is physically in her early 30s. The veteran JSA members (Jay, Alan, Ted Grant) physically are a VERY FIT early 60s. The original Titans (Dick, Wally, Garth, Roy) are all somewhere around 24-25. Donna is probably physically a year or two behind due to the time she spent dead. Hal is probably a very fit 35-40 with a few years removed to take into account the time he spent dead. Ollie is probably in his early 40s with a few years off also due to time spent being dead. Lex Luthor is probably physically in his early 40s, maybe late 30s. Ralph is probably late 30s.

[ducklord]

Until the next continuity wave eliminates the notion of "Pete Ross, former Vice-President of the United States," Superman is at LEAST 35 years old, and probably older.

Mike.

[caats19]

didn't alan scott and jay garrick go through some sorta make em young thing?

[EZMOHR]

Batman/Bruce Wayne- 37
Superman/Clark Kent- 33(I know, he just seems enough youner than Bats, I've got think he is, no matter what is written.)

Lois Lane- 36
Catwoman/Selina Kyle- 34
Wonder Woman- Ageless
Aquaman- 43
Ollie Queen- 40
Hal Jordan- 37
Barry Allen (If he would've lived)- 39
Zatanna- 30
Wally West- 26
Dick Grayson- 25
Roy Harper- 25
Tim Drake- 17
Wonder Girl- 17
Kyle Rayner- 28

That's all for now.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

Although DC won't ever let them age past their mid-thirties, I've always thought the DC heroes felt a little older and wiser than their Marvel counterparts.

I'd place the Silver Age characters in their late thirties/early forties since it feels like they've all been around between fifteen to twenty years at this point, with the original Teen Titans in their late twenties/early thirties and the current generation of teen heroes at about 18 to 19.

My general rule of thumb is that five years worth of comics stories equals roughly one year of comic time. More or less. This'll never happen, of course, but it's the way I see it.

Dido is right about Dick Grayson though, he's the biggest problem DC has when it comes to keeping Clark & Bruce perpetually young. If Dick Grayson was 9 or 10 when he first became Robin and 19 when he became Nightwing, which happened right before the Crisis on Infinite Earths, which is at least 5 years in the past, continuity wise, that locks DC into a 15 year timeline at the very least.

[Gozwald73]

The best way of getting approximate ages is using Batman and Nightwing, I think. Bruce was absent from Gotham for 10 years (according to Batman Year 1) returning at the age of 28ish. He took Dick Grayson as his ward the next year (BW 29) when Dick was clearly about 12. Dick is now in his early 20s, so it's been at least 10 years since then. Say, BW 39-40, DG 22-23. Maybe some Lazarus Pit fumes have kept Bruce relatively youthful.


Ah yes, the Lazarus Pits! That explains why Dinah seems younger than her Ollie-bashing days. I had completely forgotten about her little encounter with Ra's and consequent dip in his pit a few years ago.
:p

[OzBat!]

Jay and Allan were interesting cases. They've had a couple of JSA cases pre-crisis which affected their ageing. Then Allan was deaged to around 29, 30 by the Starheart in GL Quarterly. Not too long after that came the Flash/GL prestige mini "Faster Friends" where Allan gave a portion of that youth to Jay to keep him alive. Jay has also been revealed to be younger than normal due to the Speed Force; Allan wasn't even really human at one point but just a green flame manifestation of his will. I haven't read any JSA since the Powergirl/Johnny Thunder story arc, but something has happened to change that status quo: Allan is apparently fully human and older again, now having lost an eye.

So Allan is looking like he's in his mid sixties (still a damn sight better than 90s, right?) and Jay is probably around his early to mid 50s - a very fit marathon running grandfather.

[LordEd1976]

didn't alan scott and jay garrick go through some sorta make em young thing?

Yep. A battle with the villain known as Ian Karkull gave every JSA member that was present retarded aging and amazing vitality even decades later. The people affected were Flash, Green Lantern, Dr Fate, Joan Williams (the Flash's future wife), Atom, Hawkman and Hawkgirl, Sandman, Johnny Thunder, Hourman, and Starman.

Then when the JSA decided to sacrifice themselves by getting trapped in an endless loop where they were battling Asgardian demons to prevent the destruction of the Universe, they were given even more restored youth. Those affected were Flash, Green Lantern, Sandman, Sandy, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, Starman, Atom, Johnny Thunder, Hourman, Dr Mid-Nite, and Wildcat. After the JSA returned to Earth, some of the rejuvination stayed but they aged a few years at least.

Most of the JSA had the bulk of their restored youth removed by Extant during Zero Hour. Green Lantern was protected by the Starheart and kept his youth but later lost it when he his powers went haywire and he was forced to expel some of the energy. Flash apparently ages slowly thanks to the Speed Force. Wildcat regained some vitality thanks to the power of his 9 nine lives.

For the most part its like I said earlier, the veteran JSA members are probably a VERY FIT 50-60s

[Rhydaman]

Superman/Clark Kent- 33
Wonder Woman- Ageless
Aquaman- 43
Zatanna- 30

These guys are allowed to follow separate rules, aren't they? They're not completely/even a little bit human, so their aging can be different.

[Smokeyjay]

Remeber too, that these people are the "Physical Elite" in the DC World. The parents on most of my friends are in their 50s and 60s now, and they are all very fit and active! The comment made about how Bats being 45 and unable to run and do stuff is ridiculous. The sort of debilitation that comes naturally with aging does not normally impact people until around their 60s (and that's the overweight, underactive Western society norm, not Superheroes!).


Athletes in football, hockey, fighting sports don't reach past 45 before there forced to retire. Compared to an average person though, there in terrific shape.
Its unusual for athletes to be past 40, espescially in sports which involve consistent running.

But Batman is supposed to be peak human, so I'm guessing young to mid 30s.

The problem with the popular superheros being unable to age is that it makes all the other teenage heros that there building up remain kind of stagnant.

At least they find ways to off Flash-but I liked Wally West...

[caats19]

yeah, i liked wally, but i like bart too. and am happy with bart. and it's not like wally won't be back, they all say his story isn't over. i didn't really expect infinite crisis to end without a new flash

[Pyro]

I've been wondering about this lately. How old is Kyle Rayner? I always assumed he was about the same age as Wally, who would be about the same age as Nightwing... Can we place the heroes into generations?

60's: Most of JSA
30's-40's: Most headliners
Mid-Late 20's: Original Teen Titans, Kyle, Outsiders, Powergirl
Teens: Current Teen Titans, Supergirl & Legion(?), Beast Boy (I'm pretty sure he was 19...at least before 1 year later)

Can anyone elaborate on that? I'm no DC expert so I could be off.

[Trademark]

Lex Luthor was president of the United States and Pete Ross was vice-president and later president. The Constitution of the United States requires that both the president and vice president be a minimum of 35 years old. Since Superman was in the same class in high school back in Smallville as Luthor and Pete Ross, he should be at least 35 years old by now. Of course, I can't imagine someone as young as 35 being elected president. The youngest president ever elected was 46 years old.

[Ontir]

Lex is in his late 40's.

Pete and Clark would then be 36.

Lois is about 32, unless you go with the movie chronology, in which case she 26.

Bruce is around 42, as is Hal, Ray, Ralph & Katar.

Wally, Dick, Roy, Garth, and Donna are anwyhere between 28 and 31.

Lilith is about 26.

Diana is indeterminate, because she doesn't age normally.

Zatanna is about 28.

Dinah is 35.

Ollie is 50.

[Armless Penguin]

But you have to remember that Ollie is physically a decade or so younger than he should be. So while he may have been born 50 years ago, that's not how "old" his body is.

[Bat-Mite]

Lex is in his late 40's.

Pete and Clark would then be 36.

Lex went to school with Clark, so they would be around the same age.

[Kid Kyoto]

Would retarding Bruce's physical aging (though lazarus pit fumes, super powered healing, rare herbs or whaterver) harm the character? Then he could be in his mid-40s but still the best fighter in the world.

Or would it cross the line and make him superhuman?

He already had his back magically healed.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

But you have to remember that Ollie is physically a decade or so younger than he should be. So while he may have been born 50 years ago, that's not how "old" his body is.

As is Hal, according to the latest issue of JLA. Apparently, coming back to life knocks a decade off your age. Hal told Roy he might even be younger than him now.

[Alan2099]

Hasn't every single one of these guys gotten younger at one point or another?

[skally19]

Lex is in his late 40's.

Pete and Clark would then be 36.

Lois is about 32, unless you go with the movie chronology, in which case she 26.

Bruce is around 42, as is Hal, Ray, Ralph & Katar.

Wally, Dick, Roy, Garth, and Donna are anwyhere between 28 and 31.

Lilith is about 26.

Diana is indeterminate, because she doesn't age normally.

Zatanna is about 28.

Dinah is 35.

Ollie is 50.

i think you're a little old on your estimates. i noticed roy looks older than dick does. im gonna attribute that to heroin. and he's probably a couple years older anyway

[Bored at 3:00AM]

Yeah, given that Roy was a heroin addict, he's definitely gonna look a little older than most, but I'd say he's about the same age as Grayson.

[Gust]

Lex Luthor was president of the United States and Pete Ross was vice-president and later president. The Constitution of the United States requires that both the president and vice president be a minimum of 35 years old. Since Superman was in the same class in high school back in Smallville as Luthor and Pete Ross, he should be at least 35 years old by now. Of course, I can't imagine someone as young as 35 being elected president. The youngest president ever elected was 46 years old.

Actually the youngest president elected was 43 (JFK) and the youngest to take office was 42 (T. Roosevelt). Of course this is the DC universe where Lex can become leader of the US so being younger than forty is really no stretch but...

I always imagined Superman physically aged slower than humans anyway and several writers have shown this (whether it is continuity or not may be up to debate).

And I always thought Hal Jordan was older than the other heroes of his era but I suppose it could just be because of his white temple hair.

[Tennoarashi]

Donna mentioned she 'wasn't even 25' during her mini, and during the Devin Grayson 'Titans' series, she was stated as being 23. At OYL, she's probably 25.

And most of the strongest evidence states that all the original Titans are the same age, bar Garth who spent almost a few years in that other dimension thingy learning sorcery (he's a bit older).

Probably something to consider when dealing with the mentor's ages.