Create your own "New Champions" team

[Frostbite883]

Here is my version of a "New Champions" team.

ACTIVE MEMBERS:
Shroud(leader)
Cardiac(second-in-command)
Nocturne(Angela Cairn)
Quake(Daisy Johnson)
Dragonfly II(Meiko Yin)
Charcoal(resurrected)

RESERVED MEMBERS:
Stunner(reformed)
Zephyr
Marvel Boy(Justice character)
Cobalt Man(reformed)
Annex
Ethan Edwards
Network
Nighthawk II
Nosferata
Corona
Solarman

WEST COAST MEMBERS:
Solo(co-leader)
Lightbright(co-leader)
Gladiatrix
Wildstreak
Anti-Vision(rebuilt)
X-Treme(Adam-X)
Ion(Voletta Todd)

Well, that's that. Your turn.

[Frostbite883]

Here is my version of a "New Champions" team.

ACTIVE MEMBERS:
Shroud(leader)
Cardiac(second-in-command)
Nocturne(Angela Cairn)
Quake(Daisy Johnson)
Dragonfly II(Meiko Yin)
Charcoal(resurrected)

RESERVED MEMBERS:
Stunner(reformed)
Zephyr
Marvel Boy(Justice character)
Cobalt Man(reformed)
Jericho Drumm
one of the mutates from She-Hulk(vol. 1)#18
Annex
Ethan Edwards
Network
Nighthawk II
Nosferata
Corona
Solarman

WEST COAST MEMBERS:
Solo(co-leader)
Lightbright(co-leader)
Gladiatrix
Wildstreak
Anti-Vision(rebuilt)
X-Treme(Adam-X)
Ion(Voletta Todd)

Well, that's that. Your turn.

I decided to include Brother Voodoo(who will be refer to as just
Jericho Drumm) and one of the mutates from the 1981 She-Hulk
series(who would reactively survive all along).

[Smarty Jones]

I would pick Triathlon for this, but since I have another story idea involving him I will pick the characters I recommend for The Champions:

Hellcat (co-leader)
Justice (co-leader)
Talisman
Living Lightning
Darkhawk
Texas Twister

[J. Robb]

I'd make the Champions an international team, based in Wakanda:

Storm
Black Panther
Hercules
Darkstar (I think she's dead, but she could get better...)
Sabra

[The Real Rogue]

I would like a champions book focussing on different parts of the worlds.

American team:
Justice (leader)
Shroud
Arachne
Dragonfly
Silhouette
Iron Fist


African team:
Storm (leader)
Black Panther (leader)
Cloak
Dagger
Nezhno (student from Xaviers)
Silverclaw


European team:
Black widow (leader)
Hellcat
Darkhawk
Empath (ex Hellions)
Micromax
Cloud (remember her/him?)


Asia team:
Sabra (leader)
Hercules
Mantis
White Tiger
Black Box (aka Commcast)
Yukio

[Zombienorthstar]

NEW CHAMPIONS

Major Mapleleaf
Lyja the Skrull
Justice
Daytripper
Sasquatch (assuming he survived the Collective)

[Haunt]

THE CHAMPIONS [a team of easily-blackmailed or already detained heroes organized by S.H.I.E.L.D]


1. Nighthawk [Kyle Richmond] -- field leader
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/6/63/Nighthawk.jpg
note: he seems to play the role of patsy well but maybe SHIELD would be in for a surprise on this occassion. anyways, he was chosen because of his experience and resources i.e. a headquarters to set these folks up in.

2.


3. Omega ["James-Michael Starling"]
http://www.newsarama.com/JoeFridays/JF51art/OMEG002coverSMALL.jpg
note: i've never even read a Omega the Unknown appearance but i like his look & powerset. for the purposes of the Champions team i'm thinking of him as a mix of Billy Batson-SHAZAM and Donnie Darko. he'd be an individual who appears out of nowhere and has a lot to hide. SHIELD would take full advantage of this & the fragile state of Omega's human form.

4. Ultra-Girl [Sue Sherman]
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/UltraGirl.JPG
note: she'd get a new costume (maybe something light blue), maybe. anyways, i like her powerset and kree heritage. i figure SHIELD would use her alien origins and connection to the New Warriors to blackmail her.

5. Ant-Man [Eric O'Grady]
http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/data/media/359/ANTMAN001.jpg
note: "He's not going to help you or save you unless he thinks he can get something from you… some money or maybe your hot sister," --Kirkman/ so i figure that SHIELD will just make him an offer or point out that he stole the costume from them.

6. Freedom Ring [Curtis Doyle]
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/89/Freedomring.png
note: i'm using the newer characters because they are more malleable. in Doyle's case SHIELD could make the argument that the cosmic cube ring he uses was SHIELD property, until Captain America lost it. they could threaten the character's friends. or maybe take the nice approach and appeal to his strong sense of heroism. what's cool about Freedom Ring is that he's gay & one of the most powerful on the team. that's new.



i need another female hero for the #2 spot. most of the decent ones are already taken, so she might have to be brand new character. in case you hadn't noticed, the team is made up of JLA-analogs. Nighthawk (Batman), Ultra-Girl (Wonderwoman), Freedom Ring (Green Lantern), Omega the Unknown (Superman), and Ant-Man (the Atom). i could use a speedster or another flier.

[Giant Guy]

Champons of Los Angeles
Wonderman
Tigra
Hercules
Goliath (Bill Foster)
The Shroud
Black Widow

And I would have the Beast as a semi-regular guest star.

[X-Factor]

Radioactive Man
Firebird
Living Lightning
Tigra
Cloak

[Jumpoff!]

1.Ms.Marvel-Leader
2.Nova
3.Firestar
4.Puma
5.Triathlon
6.Doc Samson
7.Queen Divine Justice
8.Valkyrie( who would be Danielle Moonstar)
9.And a new Hero

I did some sketches awhile back maybe I'll up them if I can find them

[twilight]

Iron Fist
Hercules
Speedball
Black Knight
Arachne
Cloak
Dagger
Photon/Pulsar/Whatever the hell she's called today

[Frank]

Mighty Avengers(w/Iron Man): the greatest heroes
New Avengers(w/Cap): the outcasts a la Robin Hood.
Heroes for Hire: the street-based guns for hire, hunting heroes.
Thunderbolts(w/Zemo): villains working everybody

So with that in mind my Champions would be beyond such things as "heroes` Civil Wars" and so forth. They would be the Gods of Marvel like JLA, but more pompus and above all:

>>The Champions<<

Hercules -- Olympian Demi-God
Archangel -- Billionaire, genuine flesh & blood graceful angel
Black Widow -- descendant of Tzars
Royal Couple Black Panther & Storm
Quick Silver -- rebelious prince of legacy

Taking the available former Champions first and adding BP and Storm for more royalty, adding Silver as the bitter(but much needed) prince creats a sort of JLA analogs wheras Hercules is Superman, Angel is Hawkman, Widow is Black Canary, Panther is Batman, Storm is Wonder Woman and Quick Silver is Flash. It wasn`t meant to be that way, but it makes sens.

Powerful but efficient, pompus but powerful as fk, this would be a kickass, dangerous group. More importantly they represent different Universes at Marvel. So more potential for stories. They could even add other people to their group like Black Bolt when they travel to Attilan or Namor when they go to Atlantis. Heck even Longshot when they go to Mojo World(LS could be the rebelious Robin Hood-type so Green Arrow analog). And as far as volatile character to complete the mix you can have Henry Pym joining these guys(for the Atom).

[Haunt]

1. Captain America
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=14467164947%2011

2. Iron Man
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/images/9/94/Iron_man_005.jpg

3. Sentry
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/images/e/e5/Sentry2.jpg

4. Storm
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f3/Uxm449.jpg

5. Luke Cage
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ae/Lukecage.png

6. Spiderwoman
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/images/3/30/SwMOREprofile.jpg

7. Human Torch
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/Htorch.PNG

8. Ms Marvel
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/costume/carol-bigcostume5.jpg

9. Spiderman
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/images/f/ff/395px-Amazing_spidey_.jpg

10. Daisy Johnson
http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/headshots/marvel/daisy1.gif

[Babylon23]

It's b, c and d listers all the way for me.

Hellcat
Nighthawk
Firestar
Sabra
Micromax
Maddison Jeffries/Box
Goliath
Scarecrow/Straw Man
3-D Man
Captain UK

[Haunt]

It's b, c and d listers all the way for me.

Hellcat
Nighthawk
Firestar
Sabra
Micromax
Maddison Jeffries/Box
Goliath
Scarecrow/Straw Man
3-D Man
Captain UK

no offense but it doesn't seem like much of a team. why would those characters be in the same country; let-alone working together. it's almost like you just made a list of C and D listers that you like. who is leading? who deprogrammed Madison Jeffries? isn't the 3D Man and Firestar retired? Captain UK's in another dimension, isn't she? :confused:

[The Scribe]

no offense but it doesn't seem like much of a team. why would those characters be in the same country; let-alone working together. it's almost like you just made a list of C and D listers that you like. who is leading? who deprogrammed Madison Jeffries? isn't the 3D Man and Firestar retired? Captain UK's in another dimension, isn't she? :confused:



This thread is about creating YOUR own team.

Anything can happen in comics, so anyone on Babylon23's list could be brought back from the dead or another dimension.

So, Babylon23 is entitled to his/her opinion.

Now go to your room. :p ;)

[protege]

Mighty Avengers(w/Iron Man): the greatest heroes
New Avengers(w/Cap): the outcasts a la Robin Hood.
Heroes for Hire: the street-based guns for hire, hunting heroes.
Thunderbolts(w/Zemo): villains working everybody

So with that in mind my Champions would be beyond such things as "heroes` Civil Wars" and so forth. They would be the Gods of Marvel like JLA, but more pompus and above all:

>>The Champions<<

Hercules -- Olympian Demi-God
Archangel -- Billionaire, genuine flesh & blood graceful angel
Black Widow -- descendant of Tzars
Royal Couple Black Panther & Storm
Quick Silver -- rebelious prince of legacy

Taking the available former Champions first and adding BP and Storm for more royalty, adding Silver as the bitter(but much needed) prince creats a sort of JLA analogs wheras Hercules is Superman, Angel is Hawkman, Widow is Black Canary, Panther is Batman, Storm is Wonder Woman and Quick Silver is Flash. It wasn`t meant to be that way, but it makes sens.

Powerful but efficient, pompus but powerful as fk, this would be a kickass, dangerous group. More importantly they represent different Universes at Marvel. So more potential for stories. They could even add other people to their group like Black Bolt when they travel to Attilan or Namor when they go to Atlantis. Heck even Longshot when they go to Mojo World(LS could be the rebelious Robin Hood-type so Green Arrow analog). And as far as volatile character to complete the mix you can have Henry Pym joining these guys(for the Atom).
Oh come on- you can't tell me the Flash wouldn't be in the middle of civil war.

[Haunt]

This thread is about creating YOUR own team.

Anything can happen in comics, so anyone on Babylon23's list could be brought back from the dead or another dimension.

So, Babylon23 is entitled to his/her opinion.

Now go to your room. :p ;)


of course Babylon23 is entitle to his/her opinion. i didn't tell him/her that they couldn't post in this thread. i just critiqued the roster. i would love it if someone would actually respond to one of my lineups. instead it's just a bunch of people posting their favorite characters for their own looking pleasure. me, i look at everyone's lineup to find ones that i like and characters i might have missed. i like a few of the characters Babylon used but don't understand how they fit together; that's all. anything can happen in comics. doesn't it mean it should happen. look at how poorly the Secret Defenders title did, for instance.

[drwho]

no offense but it doesn't seem like much of a team. why would those characters be in the same country; let-alone working together. it's almost like you just made a list of C and D listers that you like. who is leading? who deprogrammed Madison Jeffries? isn't the 3D Man and Firestar retired? Captain UK's in another dimension, isn't she? :confused:

When did the champions line up ever make any sense? Formula for a Champions team is a dash of Avengers with a pinch of X-Men and a goup of characters that have nothing to do with any of them plus a 1 or 2 foreign representatives.

My Champions

Ghost Rider
Hercules
Ice Man
Arachne
Crystal
Maverick
Dr. Druid
Red Guardian

[Haunt]

When did the champions line up ever make any sense? Formula for a Champions team is a dash of Avengers with a pinch of X-Men and a goup of characters that have nothing to do with any of them plus a 1 or 2 foreign representatives.

My Champions

Ghost Rider
Hercules
Ice Man
Arachne
Crystal
Maverick
Dr. Druid
Red Guardian

yeah but didn't you read the Joe Fridays column where he pointed to this as the cause of the series failure? :) did you collect Champions, monthly? i sure didn't. it's not wise to treat a book like it's fanfic. it won't sell. if you're making a lineup on here i would just suggest that you make it with the intention of convincing other posters to like it. anyone could make a list of characters they like. not everyone can create a great lineup. that's just my opinion on it.

[The Scribe]

of course Babylon23 is entitle to his/her opinion. i didn't tell him/her that they couldn't post in this thread. i just critiqued the roster. i would love it if someone would actually respond to one of my lineups. instead it's just a bunch of people posting their favorite characters for their own looking pleasure. me, i look at everyone's lineup to find ones that i like and characters i might have missed. i like a few of the characters Babylon used but don't understand how they fit together; that's all. anything can happen in comics. doesn't it mean it should happen. look at how poorly the Secret Defenders title did, for instance.

I know you didn't say Babylon23 couldn't post.
But, Babylon23 chose those characters, we will have to wait for Babylon23 to respond.

I would prefer to see an ongoing Defenders book again, I like what Erik Larsen did on his run.

[Blade X]

Archangel
Black Widow
Beta Ray Bill
Danny Ketch Ghost Rider now calling himself the Spirit of Vengence
Triathlon

[Haunt]

I know you didn't say Babylon23 couldn't post.
But, Babylon23 chose those characters, we will have to wait for Babylon23 to respond.

well i kinda was waiting for Babylon23 to respond; remember? :)

[Babylon23]

no offense but it doesn't seem like much of a team. why would those characters be in the same country; let-alone working together. it's almost like you just made a list of C and D listers that you like. who is leading? who deprogrammed Madison Jeffries? isn't the 3D Man and Firestar retired? Captain UK's in another dimension, isn't she? :confused:

well i kinda was waiting for Babylon23 to respond; remember? :)

Sorry it took so long. It's around 2pm here, I'm at work and I just got back from a late lunch.

The Champions was a completely random gathering of characters with little connection to one another. That was the model I was using - completely unconnected characters drawn together for whatever reason. I didn't give them any real structure because the Champions themselves never really had that much to begin with.

The leader and financier would be Nighthawk.

As for how otherdimensional characters could join this team, well, it's a comic book. It's easy to get people into our dimension.

3D Man merged with Triathlon in Avengers. I can think of plenty of ways to bring him back.

As for critiquing your lineup, I just assumed you were joking with your Captain America/Iron Man/Sentry lineup, since it's almost identical to the Bendis NA team. I thought you were making a statement about how Bendis' team is more like the Champions. My mistake.

[Haunt]

Sorry it took so long. It's around 2pm here, I'm at work and I just got back from a late lunch.

The Champions was a completely random gathering of characters with little connection to one another. That was the model I was using - completely unconnected characters drawn together for whatever reason. I didn't give them any real structure because the Champions themselves never really had that much to begin with.

The leader and financier would be Nighthawk.

As for how otherdimensional characters could join this team, well, it's a comic book. It's easy to get people into our dimension.

3D Man merged with Triathlon in Avengers. I can think of plenty of ways to bring him back.

As for critiquing your lineup, I just assumed you were joking with your Captain America/Iron Man/Sentry lineup, since it's almost identical to the Bendis NA team. I thought you were making a statement about how Bendis' team is more like the Champions. My mistake.

no, i was purposesly going away from the original concept of the Champions (they had no concept it was just a random assortment of characters). out of curiousity, where is your team based? i ask because the reason i questioned you about Captian UK is that her name comes with certain responsibilities. there's a reason why Captain Britain would make sense as (for example) a california based Avenger. and 3D Man didn't merge with Triathlon. the two former 3D Men were freed by Delroy and retired from adventuring. but if you can think of a way to bring them back, knock yourself out. just seemed random to me.

[Babylon23]

no, i was purposesly going away from the original concept of the Champions (they had no concept it was just a random assortment of characters). out of curiousity, where is your team based? i ask because the reason i questioned you about Captian UK is that her name comes with certain responsibilities. there's a reason why Captain Britain would make sense as (for example) a california based Avenger. and 3D Man didn't merge with Triathlon. the two former 3D Men were freed by Delroy and retired from adventuring. but if you can think of a way to bring them back, knock yourself out. just seemed random to me.

That's because it was random. Much in keeping with the original Champions concept. I didn't approach this with marketability in mind because I'm not doing a pitch for a new Champions team to Marvel. I took a FUN approach to my thinking, which I thought was the point of the thread.

no, i was purposesly going away from the original concept of the Champions (they had no concept it was just a random assortment of characters).

Okay then, a critique of your team. Firstly, you've listed the New Avengers - Captain America, Iron Man, Sentry, Cage, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Ms. Marvel - and thrown in Human Torch and Storm (with, I might add, no reason given). I see no reason for this team to be called the Champions, since they're essentially the New Avengers anyway.

Also, if you're purposely moving away from the Champions concept, why call the team the Champions at all? Especially if all you're going to do is use the New Avengers.

[EmmettHULK]

Archangel
Sabra
Silverclaw
Beta Ray Bill
Moondragon
Firebird
Goliath

[Haunt]

That's because it was random. Much in keeping with the original Champions concept. I didn't approach this with marketability in mind because I'm not doing a pitch for a new Champions team to Marvel. I took a FUN approach to my thinking, which I thought was the point of the thread.


there was a point to the thread?

Okay then, a critique of your team. Firstly, you've listed the New Avengers - Captain America, Iron Man, Sentry, Cage, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Ms. Marvel - and thrown in Human Torch and Storm (with, I might add, no reason given). I see no reason for this team to be called the Champions, since they're essentially the New Avengers anyway.

i don't feel that the Avengers do much Avenging. Champions more accurately describes the team, imo. Human Torch is there because he wants to be popular. Storm is there as a show of good faith; Wakanda reaching out to the United States.

Also, if you're purposely moving away from the Champions concept, why call the team the Champions at all? Especially if all you're going to do is use the New Avengers.

i think the original concept is broken. and i already have another team called the Avengers.

btw, i've posted more than one lineup in this thread.

[drwho]

The reason I never bought Champions when it was printed was because I wasn't into comics back then. I would definitely give a try though to a new group with the same type of heroes just thrown together origin.

[astronato]

Ares
Hercules
Thor
Valkrie
The Gargoyle
Black Knight
Balder the Brave
Warriors Three
Isis

maybe ...
Black Crow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Crow_%28comics%29


I don't know anything about Black Crow but I'd like to put the Gods,Legends and mystic Spirits (or characters associated with them) of a variety of different cultures on my Champions team. Who are the Japanese, Chinese, East and North American Indian gods in the Marvel Universe?

[Frostbite883]

I don't know anything about Black Crow but I'd like to put the Gods,Legends and mystic Spirits (or characters associated with them) of a variety of different cultures on my Champions team. Who are the Japanese, Chinese, East and North American Indian gods in the Marvel Universe?

North American Gods: Haokah, Manitou, Calumet, Nanabozho, Tawa
Japanese Gods: Ho-Ti, Izanagi, Mikaboshi, Takamimusubi, Amaterasu
Chinese Gods: Yu Huang, Shou-Hsing

[astronato]

thank you Frostbite. I'll have to check those out.

[Frostbite883]

thank you Frostbite. I'll have to check those out.

You can check them out here (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/appgods).

[Cuttlefish of Cthulhu]

So do I have to choose only Marvel characters? Are there certain characters I can't or shouldn't choose? Or can I just make a team of whoever I want?

[Frostbite883]

So do I have to choose only Marvel characters? Are there certain characters I can't or shouldn't choose? Or can I just make a team of whoever I want?

You can make a 'Champions' team with anyone you want. Whether it's Nighthawk from Earth-S or Hyperion from the Supremeverse.

[XPac]

I'd have the following:

Dr. Strange
Hulk
Daredevil
Ghost Rider

I like my teams relatively small and intimate. They're all fairly A list characters, and I think the character dynamics mesh well.

[Atom_basher]

THE CHAMPIONS [a team of easily-blackmailed or already detained heroes organized by S.H.I.E.L.D]


1. Nighthawk [Kyle Richmond] -- field leader
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/6/63/Nighthawk.jpg
note: he seems to play the role of patsy well but maybe SHIELD would be in for a surprise on this occassion. anyways, he was chosen because of his experience and resources i.e. a headquarters to set these folks up in.

2.


3. Omega ["James-Michael Starling"]
http://www.newsarama.com/JoeFridays/JF51art/OMEG002coverSMALL.jpg
note: i've never even read a Omega the Unknown appearance but i like his look & powerset. for the purposes of the Champions team i'm thinking of him as a mix of Billy Batson-SHAZAM and Donnie Darko. he'd be an individual who appears out of nowhere and has a lot to hide. SHIELD would take full advantage of this & the fragile state of Omega's human form.

4. Ultra-Girl [Sue Sherman]
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/UltraGirl.JPG
note: she'd get a new costume (maybe something light blue), maybe. anyways, i like her powerset and kree heritage. i figure SHIELD would use her alien origins and connection to the New Warriors to blackmail her.

5. Ant-Man [Eric O'Grady]
http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/data/media/359/ANTMAN001.jpg
note: "He's not going to help you or save you unless he thinks he can get something from you… some money or maybe your hot sister," --Kirkman/ so i figure that SHIELD will just make him an offer or point out that he stole the costume from them.

6. Freedom Ring [Curtis Doyle]
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/89/Freedomring.png
note: i'm using the newer characters because they are more malleable. in Doyle's case SHIELD could make the argument that the cosmic cube ring he uses was SHIELD property, until Captain America lost it. they could threaten the character's friends. or maybe take the nice approach and appeal to his strong sense of heroism. what's cool about Freedom Ring is that he's gay & one of the most powerful on the team. that's new.



i need another female hero for the #2 spot. most of the decent ones are already taken, so she might have to be brand new character. in case you hadn't noticed, the team is made up of JLA-analogs. Nighthawk (Batman), Ultra-Girl (Wonderwoman), Freedom Ring (Green Lantern), Omega the Unknown (Superman), and Ant-Man (the Atom). i could use a speedster or another flier.



I absolutley love this team, throw in Darkstar or Karma and you got somthing

[Frostbite883]

I'd have the following:

Dr. Strange
Hulk
Daredevil
Ghost Rider

I like my teams relatively small and intimate. They're all fairly A list characters, and I think the character dynamics mesh well.

Sweet! :cool:

[Haunt]

I absolutley love this team, throw in Darkstar or Karma and you got somthing


thank you. :) i'd love to include Darkstar but wasn't she killed by Fantomex? oh well, i'll just say that she came back through some kind of Darkforce dimension. she would fit the team pretty well/give me another energy projector. i guess it's also possible that there could be a new Darkstar or another russian girl with darkforce powers. i hate to just replace someone but there's nothing wrong with legacy characters, imo.