Triathlon,Quasar,and Namorita should have been members of Agents of Atlas

[Blade X]

Does anyone else think that Triathlon,Namorita,and Qussar should have been included on the AGENTS OF ATLAS team? I certainly do. Quasar and Namorita should have been been used included of Marvel Boy and Namora. Triathlon should have been thrown onto the team because he is the successor to the 3-D MAN. Speaking of the 3-D MAN, why was'nt he mentioned or showned (in flashback) as being a part of the team? Is this another asiine and unnecesary retcon of past Marvel history.

That all being said, I really liked AOA #1.

[Beast]

Does anyone else think that Triathlon,Namorita,and Qussar should have been included on the AGENTS OF ATLAS team? I certainly do. Quasar and Namorita should have been been used included of Marvel Boy and Namora. Triathlon should have been thrown onto the team because he is the successor to the 3-D MAN. Speaking of the 3-D MAN, why was'nt he mentioned or showned (in flashback) as being a part of the team? Is this another asiine and unnecesary retcon of past Marvel history.

That all being said, I really liked AOA #1.
Triathlon, Namorita, and Quasar are not Atlas (well, Timely is more accurate) characters. Everyone on the team are characters that existed at the time that Marvel was known as Timely. And the reason that 3-D Man wasn't included is the same. He wasn't an actual Atlas/Timely comics character. He was a new character who was retroactively included in the 'What If' storyline. So he's the actual retcon. Since the 'What If?' wasn't 616, assume that 3-D man just wasn't there in the actual 616 version of the 'What If?'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timely_Comics

[Captain Exaggeration]

In reguards to your signature... I totally agree with that quote. Busiek wrote him that way too. :D

[Golon9977]

So Agents of Atlas is a team compose of characters from the '50s? Sweet. I love reading new stories about '40s-'50s characters. Can't wait to read the first issue!

[Beast]

So Agents of Atlas is a team compose of characters from the '50s? Sweet. I love reading new stories about '40s-'50s characters. Can't wait to read the first issue!
Aye. It's really really good. The team is currently composed of...

Jimmy Woo (First Appearance: Yellow Claw #1 (October 1956))
Gorilla-Man (First Appearance: Men's Adventures #26 (March 1954))
M-11: The Human Robot (First Appearance: Menace #11 (May 1954))
Marvel Boy (First Appearance: Marvel Boy #1 (December 1950))
Venus (First Appearance: Venus #1 (August 1948))

[Will.S]

Does anyone else think that Triathlon,Namorita,and Qussar should have been included on the AGENTS OF ATLAS team? I certainly do. Quasar and Namorita should have been been used included of Marvel Boy and Namora. Triathlon should have been thrown onto the team because he is the successor to the 3-D MAN. Speaking of the 3-D MAN, why was'nt he mentioned or showned (in flashback) as being a part of the team? Is this another asiine and unnecesary retcon of past Marvel history.

That all being said, I really liked AOA #1.
It would certainly be a fun idea to explore if Quasar and Namorita weren't dead :(

[Beast]

It would certainly be a fun idea to explore if Quasar and Namorita weren't dead :(
It's not fun at all. He wanted them in the place of the much more interesting Marvel Boy and Namora. ;)

[Blade X]

Triathlon, Namorita, and Quasar are not Atlas (well, Timely is more accurate) characters. Everyone on the team are characters that existed at the time that Marvel was known as Timely. And the reason that 3-D Man wasn't included is the same. He wasn't an actual Atlas/Timely comics character. He was a new character who was retroactively included in the 'What If' storyline. So he's the actual retcon. Since the 'What If?' wasn't 616, assume that 3-D man just wasn't there in the actual 616 version of the 'What If?'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timely_Comics

Actually, the WHAT IF? story is in continuity, only difference is that the team was not called the AVENGERS. And if you are going to cll 3-D MAN a retcon, then you have to call the whole concept behind AGENTS OF ATLAS a retcon.

[Beast]

Actually, the WHAT IF? story is in continuity, only difference is that the team was not called the AVENGERS. And if you are going to cll 3-D MAN a retcon, then you have to call the whole concept behind AGENTS OF ATLAS a retcon.
No, it's a 'What If?' story for a reason. They are not in actual continuity. Agents of Atlas reveals that the story did take place in the 616 Continuity, but that 3-D man was not a member of the team. You'll note he's absent from the photo in Issue #1. The reason why, 3-D man wasn't created until 1977, where as the rest of the characters are from the 40's and 50's aka the Timely/Atlas era of Marvel comics. He was retconned into existing during the time when the 'What If?' takes place, but actually wasn't created until well after.

[Beast]

In fact, you're not the first one to ask....
I'm wondering why they decided not to mention 3-D man. He was one of the original 50's Avengers, but seems to be retconned out of the story. True, 3-D man's story is now entertwined with Marathon, but they could have worked him back in.
3-D Man was left out because he was never a character in any of the ATLAS comics of the 1950's. He was created in the 70's, specifically for the "WHAT IF?" issue.

[Blade X]

In fact, you're not the first one to ask....

Thanks for the info.

I thougt Buziek established the WHAT IF? story as part of continuity durring his run on the AVENGERS and in AVENGERS FOREVER.

[Beast]

Thanks for the info.

I thougt Buziek established the WHAT IF? story as part of continuity durring his run on the AVENGERS and in AVENGERS FOREVER.
Nope. Here's what they have to say about it over on the Marvel Universe site. :)
A note on the Avengers of the 1950's: In the Avengers Forever limited series they were seemingly ret-conned out of existence. However, in a personal communication with Kurt Busiek (on Avengers Message Board), he specifically stated that he did not wipe the Avengers of the 1950s from existence. One alternate timeline containing them was wiped out. The group may well have existed in the mainstream past, but they just weren't called the Avengers. He suggested the name: "The G-Men".
You'll note they are referred to as the "G-Men" in Agents of the Atlas.

3-D man was excluded for the above reasons.

[RichStanz]

You'll note they are referred to as the "G-Men" in Agents of the Atlas.


What's the significance of the phrase "G-men"?

[Babylon23]

As much as I love 3D Man, I'm glad he wasn't included here. I think there's something cool about Marvel resurrecting their actual Atlas-era characters.

On a side note, Agents of Atlas #1 was excellent.

[Soundrave]

What's the significance of the phrase "G-men"?


It's short for "government men," a nickname for F.B.I. agents in the mid-20th century.

From the F.B.I. website (http://www.fbi.gov/libref/historic/history/historicdates.htm). . .

September 1933
Gangster "Machine Gun" Kelly reputedly coined the nickname "G-Men" for FBI Agents while being interrogated by DOI agents. The legend that Kelly shouted "Don't Shoot G-men, Don't Shoot," while he was being arrested is doubtful. The heroic "G-Man," short for Government Man, quickly became synonymous with FBI Special Agents in the public's imagination.