Ghost rider questions

[ShaggyB]

ok, so ive read the 6 issue mini and have issue 1 of the new ongoing but here are my questions.....

How is this in continuity?
Why does Johnny Blaze have the Rider now?
How come Johnny is in control?
What happened to Dan?
How did Johnny get in Hell?

answer if it is possible.

[christoph68]

ok, so ive read the 6 issue mini and have issue 1 of the new ongoing but here are my questions.....

How is this in continuity?
Why does Johnny Blaze have the Rider now?
How come Johnny is in control?
What happened to Dan?
How did Johnny get in Hell?

answer if it is possible.
a] continunity wise it come right on the heel of the last mini.
b] we'll see in coming issues [i think it might be i diff. rider than ketch's]
c] i believe that this rider is not the demon[zarathos] that was originally bonded to blaze, so that's why johnny's now in control.
d] we'll see in coming issues.(remember noble kale is suppose to be a ruler in hell now [even though he rebonded with dan in a spiderman book]he did say that there were lies and half truths that were told to both him and dan in that spidey book.)
and as i understand the final issue of the ketch -ghost rider run is suppose to be written or released some time soon.
e] we'll see in coming issues. [i think it might have something to do with his wife roxanne and his missing son and daughter or maybe with freeing dan from the riders curse [ they are brothers].:evilsmile

[ShaggyB]

a] continunity wise it come right on the heel of the last mini.
b] we'll see in coming issues [i think it might be i diff. rider than ketch's]
c] i believe that this rider is not the demon[zarathos] that was originally bonded to blaze, so that's why johnny's now in control.
d] we'll see in coming issues.(remember noble kale is suppose to be a ruler in hell now [even though he rebonded with dan in a spiderman book]he did say that there were lies and half truths that were told to both him and dan in that spidey book.)
and as i understand the final issue of the ketch -ghost rider run is suppose to be written or released some time soon.
e] we'll see in coming issues. [i think it might have something to do with his wife roxanne and his missing son and daughter or maybe with freeing dan from the riders curse [ they are brothers].:evilsmile

ok

a] I meant in total like is ghost rider ketch's stories still official or are they retcon'd?
b]hmm maybe
c]same as b
d]so who is the dude playing the devil then?
e]i hope so. i dont remember much past issue 88 of dan ketch's rider nor did i follow the marvel knights 6 shot rider book (sorry he was drawn lame) so this current few has been a fun rebirth for me. Im just confused as to what and where the mythos left out/in and left off at

[christoph68]

ok

a] I meant in total like is ghost rider ketch's stories still official or are they retcon'd?
b]hmm maybe
c]same as b
d]so who is the dude playing the devil then?
e]i hope so. i dont remember much past issue 88 of dan ketch's rider nor did i follow the marvel knights 6 shot rider book (sorry he was drawn lame) so this current few has been a fun rebirth for me. Im just confused as to what and where the mythos left out/in and left off at

the ketch rider is totally differant than the orginal blaze rider.

the blaze rider was a true demon from hell that satan bonded with johnny to get back at johnny because he originally escaped hell with help from his then girfriend roxanne.

the ketch rider was a true spirit of vengance not a demon from hell persay
and that spirit was suppose to be both ketch's and blaze's decendant [noble kale].

devil wise i'm still not sure, like i said first it was suppose to be satan then it was revealed to be mephisto that blaze sold his soul to for the life of crash simpson.:evilsmile

[ShaggyB]

the ketch rider is totally differant than the orginal blaze rider.

the blaze rider was a true demon from hell that satan bonded with johnny to get back at johnny because he originally escaped hell with help from his then girfriend roxanne.

the ketch rider was a true spirit of vengance not a demon from hell persay
and that spirit was suppose to be both ketch's and blaze's decendant [noble kale].

devil wise i'm still not sure, like i said first it was suppose to be satan then it was revealed to be mephisto that blaze sold his soul to for the life of crash simpson.:evilsmile

see thing is i know tha blaze was with zarthos thats why he hunted ketch. thing is im led to believe this GR is neither as spirit of vengance didnt seem to be stuck in hell. So what happened to dan? i need background on his story post issue 88 (1-88 in my collection)

what is in continuity?

[ShaggyB]

im begining to think no one knows.

ok dan ketch rider ended with what issue?

[CaptainAwesome]

im begining to think no one knows.

ok dan ketch rider ended with what issue?
Dan Ketch has not been explained yet. No one knows what happened to him, but Way says it will all be explained in issue #4 or so of the new ongoing. Sorry, there are no definitive answers for you. We all have to wait and see.

[ShaggyB]

any chance you can tell what the final issue of dan ketch run on ghost rider was, trying to finish my collection now

[christoph68]

the ketch ghost rider ended with #90 but there suppose to be an issue after that, but it was never done.

[Rich L]

the ketch ghost rider ended with #90 but there suppose to be an issue after that, but it was never done.

My understanding of this is that the issue was finished but never released, kind of like the last 2 (?) issues of the 70s Ms Marvel series, which were finally released 20 plus years later in Holiday Specials.

[christoph68]

My understanding of this is that the issue was finished but never released, kind of like the last 2 (?) issues of the 70s Ms Marvel series, which were finally released 20 plus years later in Holiday Specials.

that's what i was going to say but i'm not sure if the issue was just rough drafted or even totally finished.

i know in last few issues of the ketch run that some of the noble kale spirit of vengance ties become aware to both dan and noble himself.

if you all want me to i can go back and look it up and give a summary of what happened inthose final issues.

[Buddahbelly]

the ketch ghost rider ended with #90 but there suppose to be an issue after that, but it was never done.
Johnny Blaze ended at #81 Vol.1?
Dan Ketch ended at #93 Vol.2?
I put the question marks because I don't know if they classify the western as Vol. 1 or not.:confused:

[DDM]

My understanding of this is that the issue was finished but never released, kind of like the last 2 (?) issues of the 70s Ms Marvel series, which were finally released 20 plus years later in Holiday Specials.

Half of Ms. Marvel #25 was released as written by Chris Claremont with the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants & the Hellfire Club; however, the other half is completely rewritten to show Rogue's ambush of Ms. Marvel.

[Rich L]

Half of Ms. Marvel #25 was released as written by Chris Claremont with the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants & the Hellfire Club; however, the other half is completely rewritten to show Rogue's ambush of Ms. Marvel.

Ah okay thanks. I have the original run but not the follow up - I'll get on eBay and try to track them down.

Incidentally, have I ever told you I find your avatars ever so slightly creepy? :p

[Jumpoff!]

I read the script for issue 94 the one that never came out.
Ghostie leaves vengance in charge of hell and goes to set things right.
He returns roxie blaze back to john but she's still black rose.
Brings Dan back to life( Dan wants to marry stacy but stacy is pregant with Ski's baby) That's it in a nut shell.

[christoph68]

Johnny Blaze ended at #81 Vol.1?
Dan Ketch ended at #93 Vol.2?
I put the question marks because I don't know if they classify the western as Vol. 1 or not.:confused:

yeh the western ghost rider was renamed night rider when he was brought back into cont.

and vol. 2 did end with #93 i had my two ann. a head of the last three issues.
my error! ack!