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Effect
08-12-2006, 05:06 PM
I'm curious has the excitement and interest in seeing hero vs. hero situations finally gone away for anone else?

Maybe it's the monthly wait between issues that has cause my interesting to be go away (a problem I have with comics in general which is why I prefer to read trades of story arcs when I can) but the whole novelty of the idea behind Civil War has finally run it's course and I can't wait for it to end. Not because I'm disliking the story but I'm just ready for things to move on so heros can get back to fighting villians.

Maybe it's just me but I really don't see this event really going anywhere. Then again like I said could be the whole wait betweeen issues. Didn't feel this way with House of M but I read the entire trade of that from the get go and chances are I'd feel the same way I do now about that had I read each issue as it came out.

Not to go on and on, has anyone else gotten to the point where they are ready for this whole situation to be over, for whatever reason you may have?

mandog
08-12-2006, 05:38 PM
I may lose intrest if there start to be some serious delays. I'm a bit worried after issue 4 got pushed back a bit. But, really my only complaint is that I have to wait. I guess thats a good thing though. I guess I like it enough still that I dont want to have to wait for each issue.

TheCrow13
08-12-2006, 05:43 PM
I'm not a very patient person when it comes to comics. Im not a fan how marvel has been putting out civil war tie ins with no pattern what soever. At first lots each week, now were down to 2 or less each week. If they wanna keep me reading, hurry the ShaFu up

jonwes
08-12-2006, 05:47 PM
No my excitement hasn't faded. But I will say it seems like the wait between books was already forever, and the delay of #4 (and what it does to the rest of my pull list) hasn't made me happy. I hope this is the one and only delay.

Weirdopky
08-12-2006, 06:25 PM
I've sorta lost some interest, but waiting? I think that because of all the tie ins the wait doesn't seem nearly as bad. With me, I get impatient with Moon Knight issues because he has no tie ins and therefore it seems like a freakin' eternity since the last one came out. I know CW 4 got pushed back, but there are so many Civil War comics, I'm able to deal with it.

Siddon
08-12-2006, 06:30 PM
Nope, mostly because the tie-ins have been so good. The fact that each issue has had something huge in it is another big reason why my interest hasn't faded. I mean they changed the status qou in issue 1 and unmasked Spidy in issue 2 while issue 3 was a let down for me because they brought back Thor..... and they are killing someone off in 4.

SO that leaves 3 issues for them to really screw it up which personally I doubt.

Mia
08-12-2006, 08:53 PM
It has for me. Especially since I now see that the story is beggining to become extreemely one sided. With the anti-registration side being portrayed as the good hats. And the pro-registration side being portrayed on par with the second comming of the Nazi party. If I knew that it was going to turn out out this way I would have never touched it in the first place. Very poor story telling and a waste of time and money.

XPac
08-12-2006, 10:16 PM
It hasn't faded for me yet cause it barely started. The last issue was the first time we've really gotten to see the two sides REALLY fight it out. Everything else so far has been build up.

Venom65437
08-13-2006, 01:15 AM
I wasn't that SUPER excited for Civil War to begin with. Honestly, I've only been following it because Spider-Man (my favorite hero) is taking center stage.

That said I'll be glad when it's over. I'm tired of Marvel "events."

Uncensored
08-13-2006, 01:19 AM
I'm avoiding the tie-ins (excluding those in titles I already read) altogether, and simply sticking to the main series. Because of that, I just see Civil War as just another miniseries, so I don't really have any problems with the whole thing.

Hiromi
08-13-2006, 03:13 AM
I'll lose my interest when the comics stop entertaining me, hasn't happened thus far, as for delays, hey, saves me money for the moment.

Miss Kitty Fantastico
08-13-2006, 06:21 AM
My interest hasn't faded, as such, but it's changed.

The tie-ins were never really a factor in my interest in Civil War - more the other way around, I've bought and enjoyed the tie-ins because I knew I'd be guaranteed a storyline that, in part, I was already familiar and conversant with. So it made for a good opportunity to sample a bunch of titles I hadn't already read, without having to deal with complete 'WTF is going on?' situations. With one-offs like Front Line, I just take it as it comes, and enjoy whatever I get.

So it's been all about the miniseries for me, in terms of my interest in Civil War as a whole. #3 was a bit of a change in what I was getting from it - after that issue, I was more interested in finding out what happened next, than talking about what had already happened. Which is to be expected - without turning the comic into a socio-political study, there's only so much detail they can go into on registration, legally and socially, before it's time to let it stand and turn attention to how the heroes react to it. And personally, that's not something I can sustain a level of interest in without getting new material from Marvel. I can talk about registration as a concept in law, in society, in morality, for ages (and I have), because I know, or can look up, the basis for whatever I'm arguing - constitutional law, social philosophy, morality of law, take your pick. Issues #1 and #2 were basically "the Registration Act: discuss." I can do that.

But so far as Marvel characters go, I know She-Hulk pretty well, and Ms Marvel slightly. For the others, I can really only hazard a first-impression guess as to their motivations - I can think about and talk about what they've said and done, but so far as what they're going to say and do, I'm really just waiting to see. I'm not saying that's a weakness in Civil War - I think it should ultimately be about characters, not concepts, and this'll make it stronger as a story once we've got 1-7 than if it was all legal and social concepts - but it's not something I can debate for hours, and without debate, there's really nothing to do but wait for the next issue.

As for the delays, well, I take the long run approach - I'd rather have a story that's late and as good as it could be, rather than on time and as good as it could be in the time given. I'm a writer - I know that sometimes it just takes time to nail the story, and hurrying it only makes it come out wrong. I expect the same applies to artists too.

BizarroBeachHead
08-13-2006, 06:29 AM
After three issues, I've come to realize that Millar won't be able to carry off the wonderful Civil War concept with the subtlety and precision it requires. I don't even feel like finishing the series at this point.

Violently Apathetic
08-13-2006, 07:50 AM
I'm feeling a little weary, yes, but that has less to do with quality of the story telling than with the fact as a relatively new comic fan I'm just not used to waiting months for the next chapter in a story. Nor is having to buy a bunch of tie-in books to feel I'm getting the complete story something I'm used to. As a result I'm feeling somewhat overwhelmed. It's different than with Infinite Crisis. With IC I didn't have much of an emotional investment with any of the characters so I could read it each month as a sort of curiosity. With Civil War I do care about these characters and as a result all the time I spend worrying about my favourites is somewhat emotionally draining.

SnakeEater
08-13-2006, 09:22 AM
It hasn't faded for me yet cause it barely started.

Thats my problem with it. I had my girlfriend going insane helping me look for back issues because i wanted to get the WHOLE story and then i wouldnt shut up about it until issue 3 came out. Then she asked me "is it really a war or is it just abunch of talking" and then i realized this series sucks big time. The main story is only 3 issues long and honestly issue 3 was a quick read and the ending didnt really effect me because i'm not a Thor fan.
It just seems like its yack yack yack and it has really gotten boring. So boring that i purchased a few missing issues from my Clone Saga days and im actually more entertained by that. It's sad really because i was looking for to this series and the same day issue two came out it was ruined for me by the New York Post just before i got the issue and then 3 was read in like 3 minutes and i just threw it down and went to play Resident Evil 4.
The side stories are just as bad too. The Thunderbolts was an interesting read for me, the Fantastic 4 issues were boring, the X-Factor issues were funny but wow were they not worth buying for this series. Wolverine is the only title i'm looking forward to and Frontline got boring quick. The New Avengers is just boring as all hell, and Black Panther was just another notch in my belt against Joe Q because of marryinh Storm FOR NO REASON but complaining ppl like Peter and Mj shoudlnt be married. So what the hell is going on with this series? It's really getting stupid for me:mad:

CyberCoyote
08-13-2006, 09:33 AM
I actually got my first issue that WASN'T a tie in, of Frontline not CW proper, and it seems a bit drawn out. I just wanted to see the Wondy scene everyone was mentioning.

It's taking a bit long. Honestly ya know Millar's style, so those that're bored by the main will probably enjoy the last issue or two because he always has a gigantor knock-down drag-out in the end, but the whole thing probably could have been done in maybe three one shots. The first an introduction of the SHRA (or is it just Super POWERED Registration Act now?). Tie in issues in the regular runs regarding it. A couple months later another one shot in the heat of things to catch readers up on everything that went on in all the tie ins, then a couple months after that a final one shot that shows whatever the big battle is that Millar's gonna finish with.

Heck, those three issues could have just been features in regularly running books, too. But where's the ma$$ marketing in that, I guess? :)

joeybdot
08-13-2006, 10:13 AM
I don't think it REALLY even started yet.

scratchie
08-13-2006, 10:14 AM
It has for me. Especially since I now see that the story is beggining to become extreemely one sided. With the anti-registration side being portrayed as the good hats. And the pro-registration side being portrayed on par with the second comming of the Nazi party. If I knew that it was going to turn out out this way I would have never touched it in the first place. Very poor story telling and a waste of time and money.I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. It's like the guys at Marvel couldn't think of a way to get the plot moving without armed commandos pulling people out of their homes in the middle of the night, and yet we (the readers) are supposed to feel torn about whether the Registration Act is "reasonable" or not.

XPac
08-13-2006, 10:30 AM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. It's like the guys at Marvel couldn't think of a way to get the plot moving without armed commandos pulling people out of their homes in the middle of the night, and yet we (the readers) are supposed to feel torn about whether the Registration Act is "reasonable" or not.

You're not necessarily suppossed to "feel" it's reasonable, but you're suppossed to "think" it's reasonsabe. Because up to a point it is. And if this were real life, odds this is exactly what would be happening.

Everyweek I'm seeing more and more problems with the regisration... but that said, they have a point. A point that I'm wager many people in real life would support. But yes, the situation does tend to give the ant-side that knee jerk sympathy. They're the underdogs battling against impossible odds against big government.

sirgod
08-13-2006, 10:40 AM
Well, It seems to me to be dragging out abit, But then again, It could be because I'm waiting for the Hulk to make it back to earth.

Stephen

Herald of Asgard
08-13-2006, 10:49 AM
Since I wasn't excited to begin with, meh, I ain't too shabby :)
I've still been able to bring myself out of bed in the morning and go to work.
And besides, impatience is a bad trait for Comic Book readers. I've found that if you read the comic as soon as you get it and try to wait for the next issue (30 days!!!), that often times you forget key details. So, about a week before you get your new comics, re-read the previous issue and not only will it keep your appitite satied, but it'll also refresh your memory.

A helpful tip from somone who's been at this a while.

That and don't buy into the hype. Cause if you do, you'll ALWAYS be let down. Especially nowadays.

Peace Out!

scratchie
08-13-2006, 10:50 AM
And if this were real life, odds this is exactly what would be happening.No, because in real life (at least in the USA), you're subject to the law based on what you do, not based on who you are.

Cayman
08-13-2006, 11:00 AM
Nope, I've been impressed with the main series and even more so with the quality of the tie-in issues. So far they've been really good.

Cay

XPac
08-13-2006, 11:08 AM
No, because in real life (at least in the USA), you're subject to the law based on what you do, not based on who you are.

That's how it SHOULD work. I just don't agree practically speaking that's what would happen.

They wouldn't be constitutionally fair. Government and the public would simply be afraid. And right or wrong, that fear is understandable. They would gather these people up, isolate and study them, and in some cases probably discent them.

That's how I look at the real world at least. Though I do like your version better.

SnakeEater
08-13-2006, 11:23 AM
I actually got my first issue that WASN'T a tie in, of Frontline not CW proper, and it seems a bit drawn out. I just wanted to see the Wondy scene everyone was mentioning.
What scene would that be?

Effect
08-13-2006, 11:40 AM
Glad I'm not the only feeling that this story is being drawn out. When I look back on what has happen and what I think else could happen this whole thing could have been done in 5 issues due to all of the tie-ins. That would have forced Millar to get right to the point of the story since you have the tie-ins to provide more detail with certain characters. I can't stand this waiting as well.

Someone said #3 of Civil War wasn't really that much of a big deal to them because they aren't that big of a Thor fan or even a Thor fan in general. Honestly it's the same for me. Outside of seeing the fight it really meant nothing to me which is the problem I'm having with the series as it unfolds. I really don't care one way or the other anymore. In fact I'm becoming more annoyed as time goes by due to what characters are doing.

I still think unmasking Spider-man will bring interesting stories to come but I don't really care anymore and nor really like it as much. I'm kinda meh to it now. I'd rather they had Spider-man simply leave and go somewhere else and be Spider-man then have this angst filled mess we have now that is clearly being drawn out. What for as well, we know how certain things are going to end up, just get to the damn point and important parts of the situations. Leave all the inner detail to the normal monthly titles. If the person is interested in that character they will pick it up. If a person isn't they won't bother and just accept things or reason it out themselves.

Like I said, the long wait between issues has and is a problem for me with all comics. For some I can be more forgiving (Star Wars comics, Transformers, some X-titles(Uncanny and Factor) and even Spider-man titles) due to my interesting and love for the series and characters. For some reason that's just how it is. For characters I'm less interested in I don't have the patience and what little I have is wearing very thin.

I'm just ready for the whole thing to be done and over with now.

CyberCoyote
08-13-2006, 11:48 AM
What scene would that be?

The scene where *spoilers*

SHIELD basically blackmails WonderMan to do some surveilance work for them, indicating they found some tax discrepencies affiliated with his Second Chances Foundation. He didn't flinch when they brought it up, so I'm still thinking that whatever it is that he's done isn't so much illegal as something he just doesn't want SHIELD finiding anything else about so he has to play along as if he's back to his old tricks from his pre-hero days

SnakeEater
08-13-2006, 12:21 PM
The scene where *spoilers*

SHIELD basically blackmails WonderMan to do some surveilance work for them, indicating they found some tax discrepencies affiliated with his Second Chances Foundation. He didn't flinch when they brought it up, so I'm still thinking that whatever it is that he's done isn't so much illegal as something he just doesn't want SHIELD finiding anything else about so he has to play along as if he's back to his old tricks from his pre-hero days

Oh, alrught i misread the name and thought you meant Wanda...sorry :)

SnakeEater
08-13-2006, 12:24 PM
Glad I'm not the only feeling that this story is being drawn out. When I look back on what has happen and what I think else could happen this whole thing could have been done in 5 issues due to all of the tie-ins. That would have forced Millar to get right to the point of the story since you have the tie-ins to provide more detail with certain characters. I can't stand this waiting as well.

Someone said #3 of Civil War wasn't really that much of a big deal to them because they aren't that big of a Thor fan or even a Thor fan in general. Honestly it's the same for me. Outside of seeing the fight it really meant nothing to me which is the problem I'm having with the series as it unfolds. I really don't care one way or the other anymore. In fact I'm becoming more annoyed as time goes by due to what characters are doing.

The waiting sucks big time. it was the same feeling for me and The Other and Sins Past and then i nearly pulled my hair out after reading it in one sitting...BAD BAD BOOKs. Same goes for HoM. But yeah the only books that are entertaining me right now are the Amazing Spidey books. Honeslty this is the best work JMS has done in a long time. I guess he doesnt have all the answers for spidey since the unmsking didnt come from him. Its about time something cool happened there

jackolover
08-13-2006, 05:07 PM
I'm curious has the excitement and interest in seeing hero vs. hero situations finally gone away for anone else?

Maybe it's the monthly wait between issues that has cause my interesting to be go away (a problem I have with comics in general which is why I prefer to read trades of story arcs when I can) but the whole novelty of the idea behind Civil War has finally run it's course and I can't wait for it to end. Not because I'm disliking the story but I'm just ready for things to move on so heros can get back to fighting villians.

Maybe it's just me but I really don't see this event really going anywhere. Then again like I said could be the whole wait betweeen issues. Didn't feel this way with House of M but I read the entire trade of that from the get go and chances are I'd feel the same way I do now about that had I read each issue as it came out.

Not to go on and on, has anyone else gotten to the point where they are ready for this whole situation to be over, for whatever reason you may have?

No, I'm like everybody else. I'm on a rollercoaster ride of emotions between the weekly hits of the main CW story and the tie-ins. I suppose it's like when I was young. I used to get the daily comic strip in the paper. You would get just a snippet of information in those 3 panels, and because the story was so intoxicating, you had to sit in anticipation of the next installment to give you just the tinsiest bit more. It was like a slow drip feed, but I would do this for years. My favorite comic in those days was a strip called 'Garth' from the British Daily Mail I think. (Correct me if I'm wrong). They had the best stories. I have to say, CW gives me the same feelings, except it's a weekly dripfeed, now, and I'm watching my wall of CW comics increase as I pin them up. The wait certainly wears me out.

Mjolnir
08-13-2006, 07:35 PM
i'm a bit 'meh' now that issue #4 has been pushed back...
saying this, as soon as there's a 7 day countdown until it comes out, i'll be buzzing

BigBoss
08-13-2006, 09:45 PM
I think the seris is great, but the fact that it is a little short. kinda sucks but no I am in absolute no hurry for this seris too end.

The Charlatan
08-14-2006, 01:15 AM
I feel that it's getting hyped too much, but I'm not tired of it.

My problem is, as much as the actual CW mini has the 'big moments' of the story, the side stories with the details are more interesting and better told overall (New Avengers, Spider-Man, Frontline, CW X-Men, Runaways/YA).

Mjolnir
08-14-2006, 01:36 AM
oh yeah, i kinda wish it was i dunno a 12 parter or something...
just thinking that there are only 4 issues remaining to detail this enourmous event of grand proportions...
in saying that, remarkably it's been so well paced and never rushed in any places.

I just wish this huge wait could have been for issue 5, and that they could just let us find out what happened with Thor?!

-S-Man-
08-14-2006, 03:49 AM
When I first heard mention of a Civil War I was intrested enough to pick comics again...after I'd left them for a long time.

Once I got CW #1 my interest doubled... Once I got CW #2, CW:X-Men and ASM then I have really become hardcore enthusiasts. I've tried to get all the tie-ins (except FF I hate FF) and even bought Avengers: Disassembled, House of M and The Others: Die or Evolve to get some back story to whats going on.

But it really sucks when they put delays like this right in the middle of a big event. When they do that, it will ripple out into other tie-ins and so on.

Tony_Clifton
08-14-2006, 05:18 AM
the delays cheese me off but i'm as enthusiastic as ever about the series and the spin offs.................great work

scottv
08-14-2006, 05:25 AM
I am still as excited as ever. I have started picking up some of the tie ins while I am waiting for the main series to come out. It is the reason that I got into comics. One question that I have though is I was at my LCS yesterday and I have read HoM and I was looking for Secret Wars TPBs. are they out there, because I could only find one and the art looked like it was probably the first SW?

BigBoss
08-14-2006, 10:10 AM
I feel that it's getting hyped too much, but I'm not tired of it.

My problem is, as much as the actual CW mini has the 'big moments' of the story, the side stories with the details are more interesting and better told overall (New Avengers, Spider-Man, Frontline, CW X-Men, Runaways/YA).
I have more enticemnet twords the tie ins then the actual event.

RMThompson
08-14-2006, 10:23 AM
When I first heard mention of a Civil War I was intrested enough to pick comics again...after I'd left them for a long time.

Once I got CW #1 my interest doubled... Once I got CW #2, CW:X-Men and ASM then I have really become hardcore enthusiasts. I've tried to get all the tie-ins (except FF I hate FF) and even bought Avengers: Disassembled, House of M and The Others: Die or Evolve to get some back story to whats going on.

But it really sucks when they put delays like this right in the middle of a big event. When they do that, it will ripple out into other tie-ins and so on.

WTF? Did my alter ego write this? I am the exact way!

I hadn't bought a mainstream Marvel/DC comic in awhile... even when I knew about The Other storyline I didn't... I love Spider-Man but figured it was too much.

Civil War 2 is was caught me... I bought it, read it in the car, and went back in to buy 1... and some others.

I was shocked how good some of this has been. I NEVER wouldve bought New Avenengers or Fantastic Four without this... Now I am getting Civil War, Amazing Spider-Man, Wolverine, and others as I see em...

So - Marvel did it. They got me.

BigBoss
08-14-2006, 10:44 AM
my favorite tie in would probally be the amazing spiderman. then new avengers.

jackolover
08-17-2006, 05:19 PM
Now the excitement is fading, bigtime. 2 months till we learn what happens in CW3? The whole excitement just drained away. I have to forget about it for another 4 weeks! ( A bit pathetic? I know. Sad isn't it?)