Monet St. Croix Appreciation

[ohsnapulon5000]

Monet's Moneybags? that could work as a collective fan name.


By the way.. it is so unofficial GENERATION X WEEK. L'CHAIM!

[Starleafgirl]

Monet's Moneybags? that could work as a collective fan name.


By the way.. it is so unofficial GENERATION X WEEK. L'CHAIM!

Oh, neat, I'd forgotten about that. ^_^ And yeah, Monet's Moneybags is an interesting name, lol... reminds me of Clapping Thunder Thighs for Storm fans. XD

[summers88]

I wonder when PAD is going to bring the twins into the book? It would be great to see. Hell, bring 'em all back! Penance and Emplate too.

[Starleafgirl]

I wonder when PAD is going to bring the twins into the book? It would be great to see. Hell, bring 'em all back! Penance and Emplate too.

Heck, yeah! :biggrin: :cool:

[Moghedien]

Monet steps up in the Battle for Mutant Female Supremacy

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?p=12995739&posted=1#post12995739

[the Hornet]

Does Money have an actual superhero name like she used to with "M" ? I heard she gave that name up. Why is that?

[Faded]

GUYZ Joe Casey needs to write more M.

She was GREAT in X-Corporation.

[the Hornet]

GUYZ Joe Casey needs to write more M.

She was GREAT in X-Corporation.

You mean X-Corp ? I always got confused between the two but recently confirmed X-Corporation is another team altogether founded by Xavier to bring good PR in light of the deeds done by X-Corp.

Sigh...and that is how Sean Cassidy may be remembered last, not really fitting.:mad:

[ohsnapulon5000]

I think Monet is/ should be explained as a construct of the gestalt will of her two younger siblings and that that has been the case all along. this would be much easier to explain the character and would actually tie Lobdell's original idea for the character into her preexisting history as well.

Much in the way that Jamie Braddock has his construct of Betsy running around the MU thinking she is the original (and not hurting anyone's feelings that she's not) I feel that it is time to explore the possibility of this being the case with Monet.

Hypothesis: Unable to be apart from each other for even minutes without enduring great mental turmoil, the twins- Nicole (highly autistic, brilliantly genius, mute, beholding of many mutant powers) and Claudette (unnaturally mature for her young age, mystical, articulate, protective of her sister) use their vast mental abilites to construct a body, a vessel for themselves to simultaneously observe the world through: Monet- their favorite artist and a replica of of their ideal womanly version they have of themselves. Much like Karma their operating of Monet comes with a price, as they are incapacitated while controlling the body but it is a small price to pay for getting a chance to experience a life they would otherwise never get to live.

As Monet, they imbue their body with a personality, and an autonomy of thought, but not so much as "she" ever realizes the true nature of her being.
Monet interjects herself using her mental abilities into the St. Croix family, who accept her as one of their own and much to the twins delight, because of their varied talents, becomes their father's favorite- gaining his approbation.

When Monet becomes a prisoner of their older brother Marius, the twins must use their gestalt ability to physically merge, what with having their construct magically locked in inescapable body of Penance and attempt to begin a dangerous life as an imposter in order to maintain the status quo, all along attempting to reach the realm that their real body is being held captive under the tutelage of Gateway. Soon however, they find that playing dolly with their new form is too much fun, they enroll in Xavier's, and all but forget their lost "sister". Perfect time for Gateway to show up with Monet's body calling her Penance.
The rest is self explanatory.

All in all- Monet is like a flesh and bone Astral projection of the twins who Cartier St. Croix is probably shelling out hella bucks to the Xavier Foundation to keep safe and secret while they maintain their daily life as Monet- who is blissfully unaware of her actual situation.

[Havok83]

I prefer Monet as her own individual person, not some astral construct. Its too late to go back to Lobdell's original intent. Whats done is done. She's fine the way she is

[Perfection/Emma 2]

I prefer Monet as her own individual person, not some astral construct. Its too late to go back to Lobdell's original intent. Whats done is done. She's fine the way she is

^ Proudly agrees.

[blinkinrogue]

So is she dropping the M codename now, or are codenames so beneath her now? :smile:

Lol at Moneybags. Show me the Monet! :tongue:

[ohsnapulon5000]

Monet fans! When X-Factor ends or is revamped, Monet will disappear into character limbo.

we need to campaign hard and fast for the evolution of the character becoming the new Marvel Girl of the MU proper with ties to the X-men (she can be lots of things remember?)!!

Don't let her fade into obscurity! Becoming Ms. Marvel's intern is a good way to keep her around and obnoxiously superior just the way we like her.
Spread the word!

[Havok83]

Where did you hear that? Personally I hope she leaves X-factor and moves onto the X-men. I think she'd make for a good cast member of WatX

[nate-grey]

Based on the X-Factor Regenesis cover image, X-Factor is just gaining two new cast members, and Monet still seems to be going strong. I wouldn't worry about it.

http://i.newsarama.com/images/XMenRegenesis-gold-final-medium.jpg

[The Black Guardian]

With the addition of two new members, I worry a lot more!

She's probably just going to get one panel per issue, of her sunbathing and being snarky.

[nate-grey]

Yeah, it is turning into a very big cast, but PAD effectively uses interactions with established members to introduce the new cast. If anybody can balance a big cast effectively, PAD has shown that he is more than capable.

[That JonoGuy]

I was rereading some issues of X-Factor and I happened to notice a slight pattern with Monet. It had been twice now that she has made references to herself in terms of a statistic. The first in terms of suicide for people her age and second in terms of religious numbers for Muslims in Algeria. I'm curious to know what that might mean on a psychological level for her. These statements seems to give off the impression that she is a bit disconnected. What do you think?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5648/280987-13480-m_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/13480-m/105-280987/)

[Yogaflame]

With a name like St. Croix (a French Catholic name), it doesn't really make sense for her to be Muslim, and in her entire history as a character there hasn't been the slightest indication that she was Muslim. I mean, sure, Algeria has had an overwhelming Muslim population since the 7th century, but during French colonialism, Muslims were all but forbidden from politics. M's heritage and family is still largely unknown, but I don't understand how French aristocrats somehow led to her being Muslim.

[xhx23x]

With a name like St. Croix (a French Catholic name), it doesn't really make sense for her to be Muslim, and in her entire history as a character there hasn't been the slightest indication that she was Muslim. I mean, sure, Algeria has had an overwhelming Muslim population since the 7th century, but during French colonialism, Muslims were all but forbidden from politics. M's heritage and family is still largely unknown, but I don't understand how French aristocrats somehow led to her being Muslim.

didn't she say it was from her mother's side? Why would the last name make it impossible? I don't believe her mother has ever been seen on panel or in flashbacks, so we don't know what the circustances of her relationship with Mr. St Croix is.

[Perfection/Emma 2]

In ThatJonoGuy post, that Monet scan looks as if she knew Schisms was coming.

[Justin K.]

Scot Eaton draws a wonderful Monet.

[Starleafgirl]

I was rereading some issues of X-Factor and I happened to notice a slight pattern with Monet. It had been twice now that she has made references to herself in terms of a statistic. The first in terms of suicide for people her age and second in terms of religious numbers for Muslims in Algeria. I'm curious to know what that might mean on a psychological level for her. These statements seems to give off the impression that she is a bit disconnected. What do you think?

If that's what those instances are supposed to imply, it's very clever. Monet's always been a cut above the others around her (powers, looks, intelligence, aristocracy, etc.), so it's difficult for her to makes friends with anyone as true equals; add the Penance trauma in and I'd say she still has some major psychological issues that haven't been fully dealt with. It'd made total sense that she feels disconnected.


didn't she say it was from her mother's side? Why would the last name make it impossible? I don't believe her mother has ever been seen on panel or in flashbacks, so we don't know what the circumstances of her relationship with Mr. St Croix is.

M's mother has been shown twice that I can think of, in a flashback with her brother Marius (in which he kills her) in an issue of Generation X and in this family portrait from the Emplate storyline in X-Men: Legacy (I forget the issue, #229 maybe?).

http://worldofblackheroes.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mrs-st-croix.jpg

http://worldofblackheroes.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/cartier-st-croix-21.jpg

She looks a lot different between the two appearances, but it's a lot better than Ambassador St. Croix's occasional race change, lol. In any case, I don't see anything to indicate that she's not Muslim. And I just want to add that everyone was probably required to look "their Sunday best" for the photo, whereas the flashback is a better indicator of everyday life, probably. I mean, you could explain the difference that way. M's dad was a politician, it's expected that his family would look a certain way in public...

[ohsnapulon5000]

Don't over think the Muslim thing, the Algerian thing, or any of what is supposed to make logical sense in regards to her background. She's supposed to be a little bit of everything which makes her so seemingly perfect, she's a heap of calculated contradictions that are supposed to inspire a sense of mystery concerning her nature.

She's just a big old mess of ideas, somewhat the thinking man's Psylocke but authentically bizarre.

[Starleafgirl]

Don't over think the Muslim thing, the Algerian thing, or any of what is supposed to make logical sense in regards to her background. She's supposed to be a little bit of everything which makes her so seemingly perfect, she's a heap of calculated contradictions that are supposed to inspire a sense of mystery concerning her nature.

She's just a big old mess of ideas, somewhat the thinking man's Psylocke but authentically bizarre.

Heh, yeah, that's why I don't bother trying to piece it together most of the time, but you could tell yourself justifications that kind of make it make sense, if you wanted to, is all I was sayin'.

Anyway, yeah, that's M's mom.

[ZNOP]

Don't over think the Muslim thing, the Algerian thing, or any of what is supposed to make logical sense in regards to her background. She's supposed to be a little bit of everything which makes her so seemingly perfect, she's a heap of calculated contradictions that are supposed to inspire a sense of mystery concerning her nature.

She can't be a bit of everything even if she is "supposedly" perfect... Especially when her and her siblings are listed/classified as Algerian/Bosnian, with Algeria and Monaco citizenship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Algeria). Any "calculated contradictions" are purely fan-fic based as to make her closer to being white than she really is.


didn't she say it was from her mother's side? Why would the last name make it impossible? I don't believe her mother has ever been seen on panel or in flashbacks, so we don't know what the circustances of her relationship with Mr. St Croix is.



http://worldofblackheroes.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/cartier-st-croix-2.jpg


Mrs. St. Croix

1st appearance: Generation X #58, (December, 1999)

Alias: Mere St. Croix

Nationality: Algerian

Relatives: Cartier. St Croix (Husband), Marius/Emplate (son), Claudette and Nicole/M-Twins and Monet St. Croix (daughters)

Biography: Born into the Algerian royal family she fell in love with rich and eccentric Cartier St. Croix and they started a family. They had a boy Marius, a girl Monet and the twins Claudette and Nicole. She was particularly fond of the twins. When Marius’s power manifested she was home alone with him, as she tried to comfort him, as thanks he fed on her until she died. Her death irreparably destroyed her family.

Cartier St. Croix:

1st appearance: Generation X #2 (December, 1994)

Alias: Ambassador St. Croix, Ambassador Cartier. St. Croix

Nationality: Monaco

Relatives: Louis St. Croix (father), Lenore St. Croix (step mother, deceased), Unnamed mother (deceased), Mere St. Croix (wife, deceased), Marius/Emplate (son), Claudette and Nicole/M-Twins and Monet St. Croix (daughters)

[Yogaflame]

What were they smoking when they came up with M's backstory? Algeria hasn't had 'royals' in like 900 years! I guess in the MU Algeria is still a kingdom....:redface:

[ZNOP]

Razzin, frazzin double post :evilangry:

[ZNOP]

What were they smoking when they came up with M's backstory? Algeria hasn't had 'royals' in like 900 years! I guess in the MU Algeria is still a kingdom....:redface:

Of course it is :biggrin: Really... Wakanda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakanda_%28comics%29) doesn't even exist anywhere on a real map... But, in the M.U. it's like one of the riches countries in Northeastern Africa because of it Vibranium (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=7&ved=0CFgQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marveldirectory.com%2Fmiscell aneous%2Fvibranium.htm&rct=j&q=Wakanda%20vibrainum%20(comics)&ei=d61_TuKDFuPi0QGH_ZwY&usg=AFQjCNFcvepoSEWh3i2l2ooXDcd2XzeHoQ&sig2=fZPlF8e9XYwPUD_yeNxRKA&cad=rja) deposits.

[xhx23x]

Of course it is :biggrin: Really... Wakanda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakanda_%28comics%29) doesn't even exist anywhere on a real map... But, in the M.U. it's like one of the riches countries in Northeastern Africa because of it Vibranium (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=7&ved=0CFgQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marveldirectory.com%2Fmiscell aneous%2Fvibranium.htm&rct=j&q=Wakanda%20vibrainum%20(comics)&ei=d61_TuKDFuPi0QGH_ZwY&usg=AFQjCNFcvepoSEWh3i2l2ooXDcd2XzeHoQ&sig2=fZPlF8e9XYwPUD_yeNxRKA&cad=rja) deposits.

didn't they lose all their riches and that's why the stupid cat guy is slumming it at Hell's Kitchen.

[Starleafgirl]

...what I'm getting from this is that M is royalty and thus is even more "entitled" to look down upon the rest of us. :tongue:

[zonzorp]

What were they smoking when they came up with M's backstory? Algeria hasn't had 'royals' in like 900 years! I guess in the MU Algeria is still a kingdom....:redface:

If the Mississippi River can have waterfalls, Algeria can have royals.

[Likewater]

So Monet's mother was royalty? learn something new every day.

[Leirus]

If the Mississippi River can have waterfalls, Algeria can have royals.

Wow. That is a big mistake to be made by marvel. At least look through the history of the country for two minutes. I guess you could say the mother was from some aristocratic Kabyle family... but even then...

[ohsnapulon5000]

Monet should be Marvel Girl:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/onyx_halo/monet1.jpg

[Likewater]

no, Marvel Girl is a codename thats a throwback to time best left in the past.

[Faded]

Love it!

M has such a boring codename and current costume.

[Justin K.]

Change the mask color (or ditch it) and the costume is perfection!

[Likewater]

Love it!

M has such a boring codename and current costume.

How is the codename "Marvel Girl" any more exciting than "M", neither is discriptive or dynamic.

Justice was Marvel Boy, and Jean was Marvel Girl before the defining events in their lives gave them a purposeful name, because Marvel- ____ is a generic placeholder name. Atleast M is a name unique to a character.

[PinkNimrod]

M is too perfect for a fancy codename :biggrin:

[Starleafgirl]

Wow. That is a big mistake to be made by marvel. At least look through the history of the country for two minutes. I guess you could say the mother was from some aristocratic Kabyle family... but even then...

Maybe they purposefully decided that the country still had royals in their universe. Stranger things have happened.

[MforMonet]

Maybe they purposefully decided that the country still had royals in their universe. Stranger things have happened.

Either that or maybe Monet's mother was a directed descendent from some of last royal line like a descendent of the last Algerian Prince Hassan Agha. Most facts stated that M's mother was a descendent of the Algerian royalty not that she was a princess unlike when there are mentions Storm's mother, N'Daré, who is/was the princess of a tribe in Kenya and descended from of a long line of African witch-priestesses with white hair, blue eyes, and a natural gift for sorcery. So I guessing that maybe her family [Monet's mothers family] has high placing within the society of French Algiers centuries and they make it known that they are a direct line from the last royal family in power which I think is something most people would gloat about.

--

PS. Saw this amazing thread there and all the conversations about Monet and I had to join. Amazing job guys. Juste incroyable! <3

[1derer]

Asking for political accuracy in the MU is like asking for scientific accuracy. Won't happen.

MU Canada is now facist, and yet in the real world its a democracy!

[Starleafgirl]

Ah, good point, MforMonet! In any case, it would help explain her entitled attitude (not that being "the favorite" of her indulgent father isn't reason enough) or give her one more reason to lord over the rest of us, lolz.

[MforMonet]

Oh, neat, I'd forgotten about that. ^_^ And yeah, Monet's Moneybags is an interesting name, lol... reminds me of Clapping Thunder Thighs for Storm fans. XD

Lol. I think that the name the Monets is good as it's good enough for Claudette and Nicole as either a group of trackers for Apocalypse and the even call them selves "M" (though they where actually the first M so Mone took them name after them) but yes we should do by their the Monets or the Monettes (because having 'ette' at the end always your in a group that's always bigger then themselves). But I also like Monet's Moneybags because my pet name for her is Money Mo. XD

Les Monettes (the little Monets) - bringing perfection in its finest form, cher. :wink:

[MforMonet]

Ah, good point, MforMonet! In any case, it would help explain her entitled attitude (not that being "the favorite" of her indulgent father isn't reason enough) or give her one more reason to lord over the rest of us, lolz.

I think it's on of the top reason conclusion of what it means because I'm sure if Monet's mother was a princess, queen, or duchess, etc. She would say it and she probably would use the title for herself if she had it. Lol. But a direct descendent of a royal line would make more since and it would make much more sense.

[Starleafgirl]

I think it's on of the top reason conclusion of what it means because I'm sure if Monet's mother was a princess, queen, or duchess, etc. She would say it and she probably would use the title for herself if she had it. Lol. But a direct descendant of a royal line would make much more sense.

Yeah, you're right. I mean, Monet has never flashed around any fancy titles as far as I know and she totally would if she could.

Also lol at "Money Mo" -- that's perfect. XD

[Faded]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/10/103365/2066173-102144615400149_xfac_m_is_for_marvel_girl.png

Marvel Girl. Mmhmm xoxoxo.

[nate-grey]

Very awesome, and a great look for her. Who knows...

[Starleafgirl]

Yes! M is for Marvel Girl! Very cool.

[MforMonet]

I can't wait to read this, but does this mean that Monet will be the new Marvel Girl / Lady Marvel / or simply M now meaning marvel which would be short for marvelous? Which we all know Monet is. :D

[ohsnapulon5000]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/10/103365/2066173-102144615400149_xfac_m_is_for_marvel_girl.png

Marvel Girl. Mmhmm xoxoxo.

ARGH!
\HOLY CRAP! FADED you are just INCREDIBLE> you make me so happy right now!

[ohsnapulon5000]

there are just SO many venues her as Marvel Girl could take. the Dark Avengers Ms. Marvel costume on her is Gorgeous. We should get a manip of her in the old school costume that jean wore but in red with black accents, STAT!

The Marvel Girl Costume could be really cool if it were done as a critique of the fethism of the female super hero. it has the potential to look like a hooker outfit from Frank Miller's Sin City.

I can also see Monet doing very VERY bad things in this persona. she'd only be patrolling Williamsburg brooklyn, and the streets would be virtually clean of crime. almost sterile. marvel girl with Monet behind the mask is a terrifying vigilante of justice- Marvel's female analogue to Batman.

[Havok83]

M is M. Hell no to taken on Marvel Girl as a codename nor her taking on a hand me down costume

[ohsnapulon5000]

M is M. Hell no to taken on Marvel Girl as a codename nor her taking on a hand me down costume

she'd re imagine the costume and the mantle of Marvel Girl. it'd be an intellectual POV on the new status quo, and having her be a mutant intern for Ms. Marvel would be good PR all around the MU.

Her backstory: Socialte Monet St. Croix, has retreated to Brooklyn, Ny in attempts to make herself independent of her father's wealth and her ties with the radical mutant militia, known as the X-Men. Polite as ever, she has offered to take on the mantle of Marvel Girl as a form of admonishment and "respect" to the X-brand. In reality, it is part of her multiple efforts to brand herself as a superior heroine in the Marvel Universe.

Working as a model and contributing mutant columnist for a popular NY Fashion Magazine, Monet doesn't with hold her identity as Marvel Girl and revels in the attention (wanted and unwanted) that it brings. Her perspectives in her columns to her readers reflect the changing political landscape of the super hero and particularly the super heroine in today's culture which she (in a Peter Parker-y kind of way) captures through "photo shoots" that she sets up when patrolling, or on various missions. Naturally, designers beg to have her wear their vision of the marvel girl outfit, just to see it advertised in the magazine.

While employed by the mag, Monet also attends Professor X's Psychic Studies lecture, where she hopes to become a licensed telepath as she is all for the registration of mutants. THe class is held through telepathic conference as well as a lab at Empire State U.

Of course, what is most central, is that Monet has found a new alter ego to mask herself in. her favorite past time. marvel girl in fact isn't even an alter ego for Monet but just her straight up id. Marvel Girl becomes her Tyler Durden, in that capacity. The story often revolves around her taking good ideas and turning them into violently bad ones because of her disconnect to the basic human condition.

[Havok83]

I wasnt a big fan of the Marvel Girl name even on Jean when she returned as an adult in X-factor. That codename is so outdated and M is too old to be going by "Girl". As far as the costume. M is better served having her own indivdual look, persona, imagery, etc... I cant see nor want to see her copy off of someone else, especailly another outdated look from the 70s. Its beneath her. and thats exactly how Id see her viewing it if that were presented to her

[ohsnapulon5000]

I would like to start a discussion with other Monet fans about the idea of Monet's "affliction".
Namely, what is the general consensus that most fans have about what she suffers from that puts her so patently on the outside of normal human interaction, especially since the retcon of her originally being a gestalt creation of her two sisters.

I, for instance feel like the "disconnect" is derived from her having autism, actually. but Being so pretty and seemingly perfect that people don't notice. this is one of the popular postions some fans have.

other theories include:
-Monet is just an elitist, sociopath
-Monet has no soul
-Monet has Asperger's
-Monet is still the Jamie Braddock dream of her two sisters and as a facsimile, feels nothing

How do you interpret her particular disorder?

[.A²]

The only affliction from which Monet suffers is having to tolerate the presence of those who don't deserve her company. It's arrogant misanthropy. The very suggestion that it's anything other than conceit is laughable. She's not "outside of normal human interaction", she simply considers herself beyond it. Her time is far too precious to be wasted on worthless, undeserving peons.

[Starleafgirl]

I think it was some sort of dream issue where Monet and Marius were sitting calmly together, drinking tea or whatnot, where it was hinted that Monet was just as much a monster as Marius (as much as she'd hate to admit it) -- they could both be arrogant sociopaths, for whom normal social interaction is "beneath" them.

Technically, she was twins M then, but the twins' form of M was really just the personality they'd always seen Monet project, their interpretation of her attitude, so that gestalted being was basically the same thing as the real Monet. I think Monet's sisters are normal (well, one normal and one autistic), it's just Monet and Marius who might have some major psychological problem that adds up to them being best not left on their own.

It seems to me that if she hadn't been around heroes so much, Monet would've gone down the same path as Marius.

[nate-grey]

I would like to start a discussion with other Monet fans about the idea of Monet's "affliction".
Namely, what is the general consensus that most fans have about what she suffers from that puts her so patently on the outside of normal human interaction, especially since the retcon of her originally being a gestalt creation of her two sisters.

I, for instance feel like the "disconnect" is derived from her having autism, actually. but Being so pretty and seemingly perfect that people don't notice. this is one of the popular postions some fans have.

other theories include:
-Monet is just an elitist, sociopath
-Monet has no soul
-Monet has Asperger's
-Monet is still the Jamie Braddock dream of her two sisters and as a facsimile, feels nothing

How do you interpret her particular disorder?

I'll jump into the psychological discussion here.

Psychopathy or sociopathic tendencies do suggest a disconnect from others but generally involve lying/conning and engagement in conduct problems (not limited to physical violence) to get's one's way. Monet seems to already have everything she wants and has really only lied to present herself in a more favorable light (to my knowledge). There is a also a general lack of remorse for one's actions, that Monet has clearly showed in the past (albeit fairly rare instances).

Asperger's disorder is essentially Autism in the absence of significant speech problems, which fits her on the surface. However, she does not show other Autistic characteristics such as engagement in repetitive behaviors, bizarre and odd mannerisms, difficulty maintaining eye contact, intolerance to changes in routine, lack of imagination, etc. One could argue that her social aloofness might qualify her, but she does tend to gravitate towards teams rather than staying to herself, and she has shown concern for her teammate's in the past (i.e., Siryn, Guido, and Synch).

I can't vouch for her having no soul, as that's waaaaay outside of my professional realm. However, if anybody is missing a soul in X-Factor right now, it's prob not her. :tongue:

Personally, I would look towards a personality disorder, likely Narcisistic PD characterized by sense of entitlement, need for admiration, demanding praise from others, obsession with fantasies promoting these qualities, and sense of superiority. This disorder usually starts in childhood in respose to feelings of inferiority and need to overcompensate.

[Faded]

The only affliction from which Monet suffers is having to tolerate the presence of those who don't deserve her company. It's arrogant misanthropy. The very suggestion that it's anything other than conceit is laughable. She's not "outside of normal human interaction", she simply considers herself beyond it. Her time is far too precious to be wasted on worthless, undeserving peons.

Agreed. She's shown to care about others, but it occurs relatively infrequently or she may have trouble dealing with such emotions.

[Starleafgirl]

From the latest X-POSITION:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=36233


4) My questions read more like a wish list, but I can't help thinking about M, Marius, Claudette and Nicole. They appear to be the biggest dysfunctional family in the X-Universe. How do you think Monet deals with the stress from this?

I think she deals with it by endeavoring to lord it over X-Factor. This is a woman who, for an extended period of time, had no control over her very existence. I think she now compensates by lording it over everyone else so the others won't see how damaged and afraid she is that it could somehow all happen again. And I think she wants to stay the hell away from her other family members because all they do is remind her of what she had to deal with before.

It makes sense to me; when the twins were first trapped in Penance, she spent time with them out of guilt and a sense that she needed to repay them for freeing her. We didn't exactly see much of her interacting with them or even talking to them after they were free, but it just kind of seemed to me like... she liked her little sisters more than what PAD's saying here?

Well, you can like or love someone and still not want to see them, so... :x Still, it does make sense that now that she's spent some time apart from them, the whole Marius/Claudette/Nicole thing is just a reminder to her of something she'd rather not think about now.

This also sounds to me like we won't be seeing them anytime soon, but I think one or more of them should show up, just to mess with M and maybe help us see another side of her.

[.A²]

PAD deftly dodges a continuity nightmare. Wise. Monet's backstory is messy in so many ways, I'm happy not to explore it any further. We've already had a nod to Penance/Hollow, and Cartier showed up in the same arc. Onwards and upwards for Monet.

So is she severing all ties with Terry? Gonna be a lot of fallout next issue. I'm pretty sure Layla is dead to her now. She's been suspicious of her since she came back.

http://i.imgur.com/2rjRQ.jpg

[Justin K.]

So is she severing all ties with Terry? Gonna be a lot of fallout next issue. I'm pretty sure Layla is dead to her now. She's been suspicious of her since she came back.

http://i.imgur.com/2rjRQ.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407748_10150621080596214_630881213_11159181_125012 2384_n.jpg

[.A²]

Poor Layla, she doesn't stand a chance.

[Faded]

LOL Yardin's one of my favorite artists, but Monet rarely looks very sexy. I think since X-Factor started, she's only really looked modelesque under Sook and Lupacchinco.

[Ingonyama]

As a Psylocke fan, I have to say I'm jealous of the way M is drawn. She's always been portrayed as a strong character first and a beautiful woman later, rather than the other way around.

M is a rare breed of character for me. I love her personality and her role within a team (crazy powerful snooty bitch done right), but whenever I try to untangle her backstory, I just get a migraine. (And again, I'm a Psylocke fan!)

I'm with PAD. Better to stay away from the whole mess and focus on who she is now, which is awesome. :)

[yanapryde]

I'm with PAD. Better to stay away from the whole mess and focus on who she is now, which is awesome. :)

Agreed. That brother, sisters, merge, captivity, identity theft, shenanigans is a cluster #$@%!

[Seccruz]

As a Psylocke fan, I have to say I'm jealous of the way M is drawn. She's always been portrayed as a strong character first and a beautiful woman later, rather than the other way around.

M is a rare breed of character for me. I love her personality and her role within a team (crazy powerful snooty bitch done right), but whenever I try to untangle her backstory, I just get a migraine. (And again, I'm a Psylocke fan!)

I'm with PAD. Better to stay away from the whole mess and focus on who she is now, which is awesome. :)

I've grown to love Monet as well. PAD writes her superbly. I loved the issue when the whole team is subjected to psychitric counselling and she breaks down and cries. Real human issue for all of the team, but Monet really resonated with me...

[ohsnapulon5000]

I wish we'd see more of Monet using some of her other powers in rotation with the super strength and low-level telepathy. I like that her FEAT is that she's good at EVERYTHING though not spectacular at one thing. I like that they have been establishing her as a beautiful bruiser but I would like to see her other abilities come into play more. X-Factor's roster has gotten so huge that she gets rotated around a plot and all she has time to do is make punchy time... and fly. While i know she enjoys both, What about her nightvision? supersonic hearing? perfect balance etc? She should get a solo series to showcase her talent!

[.A²]

She should get a solo series to showcase her talent!

Monet doesn't belong in a solo series. She's at her best when she's HBIC surrounded by lowly peasants undeserving of her company (like Polaris). Monet without plebeians to deride just isn't M. Besides, she's far too selfish to ever strike out on her own, and that's exactly why I love her.

[baltiroo]

I'd love to see her and Jubilee in a scene again. Hell - all of her former GenXers (the ones that are still alive) are on the East Coast. A meeting has to happen. I really like how PAD is writing Monet. Great work and I can't wait for the Monet/Layla smack down.

[Starleafgirl]

I wish we'd see more of Monet using some of her other powers in rotation with the super strength and low-level telepathy. I like that her FEAT is that she's good at EVERYTHING though not spectacular at one thing. I like that they have been establishing her as a beautiful bruiser but I would like to see her other abilities come into play more. X-Factor's roster has gotten so huge that she gets rotated around a plot and all she has time to do is make punchy time... and fly. While i know she enjoys both, What about her nightvision? supersonic hearing? perfect balance etc? She should get a solo series to showcase her talent!

Are we sure that the actual Monet has all of these abilities? All I remember from Gen X was her rage issues and throwing her weight around via super-strength... it'd make sense if the combined twins Monet actually had more/different powers/levels of ability (not that Monet would ever admit it openly).


I'd love to see her and Jubilee in a scene again. Hell - all of her former GenXers (the ones that are still alive) are on the East Coast. A meeting has to happen. I really like how PAD is writing Monet. Great work and I can't wait for the Monet/Layla smack down.

Penance is on the West Coast at the Avengers Academy -- not that Monet would be keen on bumping into her anyway, lol.

Perhaps a Monet & Jubilee team-up miniseries? Now that Jubilee is an actual vampire and Monet's brother is a mutagenic vampire, that's going to be awkward. Not to mention Monet can't bully Jubilee around with her superior strength, speed, etc. anymore. She might have to start treating her like a slightly more equal partner.

[Boozier]

For those of you who haven't seen it... I wrote a vignette (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?403648-Make-Me-an-X-Vignette-I-The-Brave-and-the-Bold&p=14747390#post14747390) of a Gen X reunion. Penny gets a shout out.

[Starleafgirl]

For those of you who haven't seen it... I wrote a vignette (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?403648-Make-Me-an-X-Vignette-I-The-Brave-and-the-Bold&p=14747390#post14747390) of a Gen X reunion. Penny gets a shout out.

Nice interactions and yay for a Penny shoutout! I liked how Emma was the narrator, nice throwback to Gen X days.

[Justin K.]

A little something I came across...

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/427002_406563006026231_100000176063866_1813775_152 0653893_n.jpg

Sh*t's going down!
My only complaint is her costume lacking the heels Lupachino provided.

[nate-grey]

This fight is going to be epic!

[.A²]

No more Lupacchino is gonna take some getting used to. I hope Layla somehow finds a way to hold her own.

[ohsnapulon5000]

Monet's current costume is such a bore. I hope they change her into something a little more upscale and RED sometime soon.

[Starleafgirl]

Monet's current costume is such a bore. I hope they change her into something a little more upscale and RED sometime soon.

At least it has a working zipper! That's a rarity in female costumes in comics...

[nate-grey]

At least it has a working zipper! That's a rarity in female costumes in comics...

And she recently learned how to use it. ;D

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llilkfbV5j1qbrpgvo1_500.png

[Starleafgirl]

And she recently learned how to use it. ;D

Oh my....... :o Astral Monet is kind of slutty... not all too unexpected. XD

[nate-grey]

Now that Carol Danvers has been revealed to be the next Captain Marvel, that leaves a vacancy for Monet to fill the role of Ms. Marvel!