Monet St. Croix Appreciation [Archive] - Page 4

Justin K.

04-28-2009, 01:34 AM

She just seems more shallow to me and less intelligent. Monet's snark always seemed witty and regal. Now it seems much more Emma Frost-like. I don't know if I'm making any sense.

Emma was an influence on M's life, having her mother be killed
Whether or not she's more like her is unknown, depends on POV
She is who she is though, I'm not sure how to explain it
but she described the act she pulls, the "M" personality in X-Factor 13
I'll see if I can pull up some scans.

That JonoGuy

04-28-2009, 01:34 AM

She doesn't have the sophistication and classy wit that she had in the GenX books. I miss that - her "above it all" aire. She also doesn't have the dazzling intellect and vocabulary that seemed such an integral part of her character at the time. Someone said she seems more "mature" now. I disagree, I think she seems more petty now and more vulgar.

I can see where you are coming from. In GX it seemed when she was insulting it wasn't in a personal way. It seemed more of a "matter of fact" way. Now she seems to insult to inflict hurt. I think this should be explored. Has something happened that she is acting out in this way. I think this has definite story potential.

Slung

04-28-2009, 01:36 AM

I can see where you are coming from. In GX it seemed when she was insulting it wasn't in a personal way. It seemed more of a "matter of fact" way. Now she seems to insult to inflict hurt. I think this should be explored. Has something happened that she is acting out in this way. I think this has definite story potential.

Oooh, good that really sums it up perfectly! She just said whatever came to her mind and it happened to usually be demeaning because she is in fact better than everyone else.

Justin K.

04-28-2009, 01:40 AM

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/X-Factor_013_012.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/X-Factor_013_013.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/X-Factor_013_014.jpg

That JonoGuy

04-28-2009, 01:47 AM

Oooh, good that really sums it up perfectly! She just said whatever came to her mind and it happened to usually be demeaning because she is in fact better than everyone else.

Glad I could be of help. If you actually look at her first appearance in Generation X and her first appearance in X-Factor you can see the differences quite clearly.

Slung

04-28-2009, 01:49 AM

Glad I could be of help. If you actually look at her first appearance in Generation X and her first appearance in X-Factor you can see the differences quite clearly.

I just personally liked the GenX personality better. It was more unique.

That JonoGuy

04-28-2009, 01:54 AM

I just personally liked the GenX personality better. It was more unique.

Plus, when she did insult she didn't really allow any sort of comeback. That kind of infuriating behavior is what really makes you love to hate her.

SayOcean

04-28-2009, 02:04 AM

But she is North African. North. That is part of her character. What other character comes from Algerian and is of the Berber ethnicity? Those two 8 years olds copied Monet down to her personality.i was meaning as part of her look, and being african american wouldnt have diminished her characters uniqueness....not to many of them running round the xmen. yeah the M twins copied her personality, but it was just a copy they couldnt have gotten it prefectly and one of them was autistic, I liked M when she was snobbier, and i like the fact she insults people just to be mean, though her insults have been lacking when someone like jubilee or stacy x isnt around to be really hurt by them.

EDIT: I cant name one single AA mutant right now, so why couldnt M have been black? and i dont want to turn this into a race thing, cause i'll lose but damn, first Synch, then Bishop now they are trying to take away M's damn black apperance......its lame .......LAME

blinkinrogue

04-28-2009, 08:26 AM

yeah she is kinda different from what she used to be in gen x, even after the twins separated. but then again, PAD can just say well the twins combined were just smarter, so that's a good excuse :tongue: . my all-time favorite M is still post-Generation next and Gen x 1-10 :biggrin:

4sake

04-30-2009, 12:33 AM

i was meaning as part of her look, and being african american wouldnt have diminished her characters uniqueness....not to many of them running round the xmen. yeah the M twins copied her personality, but it was just a copy they couldnt have gotten it prefectly and one of them was autistic, I liked M when she was snobbier, and i like the fact she insults people just to be mean, though her insults have been lacking when someone like jubilee or stacy x isnt around to be really hurt by them.

EDIT: I cant name one single AA mutant right now, so why couldnt M have been black? and i dont want to turn this into a race thing, cause i'll lose but damn, first Synch, then Bishop now they are trying to take away M's damn black apperance......its lame .......LAME

Honestly who knows it's marvel they probably think we as black comic book fans should be happy that he have 1 living Black American mutant (Storm) in use let along to 2 (Darwin ) or 3/5 (Bishop I think marvel just made him Storm or Stevie Hunter grand kid, Cipher & Cecilia Reyes) in semi use. So they probably think we are over joyed or something. Also viva Synch & PLEASE MARVEL SOME ONE , ANYONE BRING BACK SYNCH.

SugarMan

04-30-2009, 06:27 AM

I was a GenX fan all the way back to the Phalanx Covenant. M was the most interesting of that group. I was glad that Marvel at least put her in one of the X-books (unlike the rest of Gen-X who kept getting killed). But there are just too many questions left unanswered about her family background. Her brother Emplate feeds on mutants (he spawns a legion of Emplates in Bishop's future). She was once trapped by Emplate in the form of Penance. Now she's traded places with her younger sisters (who were impersonating her originally). She takes shopping trips with Siryn, but has no time for this family crisis?

blinkinrogue

04-30-2009, 09:55 AM

^ now that you've mentioned it... yes hopefully mr. david will touch that aspect of M's life in later issues of x-factor. im planning on buying xfactor again when the issue with her on the cover hits my LCS.

SayOcean

04-30-2009, 10:08 AM

Honestly who knows it's marvel they probably think we as black comic book fans should be happy that he have 1 living Black American mutant (Storm) in use let along to 2 (Darwin ) or 3/5 (Bishop I think marvel just made him Storm or Stevie Hunter grand kid, Cipher & Cecilia Reyes) in semi use. So they probably think we are over joyed or something. Also viva Synch & PLEASE MARVEL SOME ONE , ANYONE BRING BACK SYNCH.yeah i guess storm could count as an AA mutant but the rest which didnt include bishop up until recently are just sworry excuses for aa mutants......its lame and it makes mad just thinking about it

I was a GenX fan all the way back to the Phalanx Covenant. M was the most interesting of that group. I was glad that Marvel at least put her in one of the X-books (unlike the rest of Gen-X who kept getting killed). But there are just too many questions left unanswered about her family background. Her brother Emplate feeds on mutants (he spawns a legion of Emplates in Bishop's future). She was once trapped by Emplate in the form of Penance. Now she's traded places with her younger sisters (who were impersonating her originally). She takes shopping trips with Siryn, but has no time for this family crisis?you only asked one question, the M twins arent in Penance anymore....none of the St. Croix family is. it seems if you arent a summers your family problems dont really matter.i soooo wish we could learn about the ideas they had for the M twins

That JonoGuy

04-30-2009, 07:46 PM

Is there a St. Croix family crisis? I thought the last time we saw them the twins were fine and Emplate was a non threat. There may still be some lingering questions that fans might want to clear up about their history, but as far as i am aware there isn't a current family crisis.

Perfection/Emma 2

04-30-2009, 09:53 PM

That JonoGuy

05-01-2009, 12:20 AM

A bit off topic, but it does involve Monet. During Monet's X-Corp days which along with Martinique being a brainwashed member, did the two telepaths have any contact with each other in terms of conversation "I'm SO lacking better words right now" just asking?

Banshee and Multiple Man were the only ones that knew of Martinique's involvement in the team,.so Monet wouldn't have had contact with her.

Perfection/Emma 2

05-01-2009, 07:04 AM

Banshee and Multiple Man were the only ones that knew of Martinique's involvement in the team,.so Monet wouldn't have had contact with her.

So I take they didn't do any missions together. Anyways thank U so much Jono for answering my question, Peace.

blinkinrogue

05-01-2009, 01:32 PM

Is her dad still alive? isnt he loony or something?

That JonoGuy

05-01-2009, 01:42 PM

Is her dad still alive? isnt he loony or something?

I think the last time we saw him was when he took the twins and Emplate back home. He seemed in perfect mental health then. He had been previously described as a bit of a loon, but that was back when he was white.

That JonoGuy

05-03-2009, 11:49 PM

Here are some more M avatars I made with art from Terry Dodson. Feel free to use them.

Justin K.

05-03-2009, 11:53 PM

Here are some more M Avatars. I got bored.

She looks like Jasmine (http://www.beckersbakeryanddeli.com/images/Cakes/Aladdin%20Jasmine.jpg) in the third one.

psychic_therapy

05-03-2009, 11:54 PM

Very nice avatars. And couldn't help but notice she looked a lot darker in the past.

That JonoGuy

05-03-2009, 11:58 PM

She looks like Jasmine (http://www.beckersbakeryanddeli.com/images/Cakes/Aladdin%20Jasmine.jpg) in the third one.

In an interview (http://www.sugarbombs.com/genx/dodson.htm) from his time on Generation X, Terry Dodson said that he was basing M's look off of Jasmine.

That JonoGuy

05-04-2009, 12:00 AM

Very nice avatars. And couldn't help but notice she looked a lot darker in the past.

In those pics she actually isn't as dark as she had been other times. That tone/color is right about where she should be though.

SayOcean

05-04-2009, 01:43 AM

In those pics she actually isn't as dark as she had been other times. That tone/color is right about where she should be though.lol no its not

That JonoGuy

05-04-2009, 02:22 AM

lol no its not

Wrong again. I didn't want to have to bring this up, but since you seem to not be getting it... I e-mailed the original colorist of Generation X(Steve Buccelato, who colored her first appearance in Uncanny and her subsequent appearances for the first 23 issues of Generation X) a while back to clarify his intent as to her coloring. Here is what he told me.

I imagined Monet to have lighter skin than Synch---more of a "coffee" color. I don't remember if that was my choice, or something that was suggested by the artist editor or writer. In any case, sometimes the printing eliminated such subtleties.

SayOcean

05-04-2009, 02:49 AM

Wrong again. I didn't want to have to go there again, but since you seem so dense... I e-mailed the original colorist of Generation X(Steve Buccelato, who colored her first appearance in Uncanny and her subsequent appearances for the first 23 issues of Generation X) to clarify his intent as to her coloring. Here is what he told me.

I imagined Monet to have lighter skin than Synch---more of a "coffee" color. I don't remember if that was my choice, or something that was suggested by the artist editor or writer. In any case, sometimes the printing eliminated such subtleties.dude look at the last four pages i have proved that M was darker in the past....and by coffee colored do you mean regular coffee or coffee with 9 packs of cream and sugar....

That JonoGuy

05-04-2009, 03:24 AM

dude look at the last four pages i have proved that M was darker in the past....and by coffee colored do you mean regular coffee or coffee with 9 packs of cream and sugar....

The only thing you proved is that you are unable to pick up on the subtleties of color.

I believe this is what he meant by coffee.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378458-105955-m_super.jpg

That is quite a bit different from this.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/152497-159541-synch_super.jpg

SayOcean

05-04-2009, 03:32 AM

uhhh which one synch or M, and dude i posted the pic from one of her earliest appearances and the bitch was darker

That JonoGuy

05-04-2009, 03:47 AM

uhhh which one synch or M,

Obviously M.

and dude i posted the pic from one of her earliest appearances and the bitch was darker

I already addressed this previously. They weren't using computer separation with her first appearance. With her debut in Generation X they were able to fine tune her look more accurately.

SayOcean

05-04-2009, 04:01 AM

lol okay but you lose your argument about M being light in her initial appearance.....and even with this computer separation, she was still darker than she is now, i dont see why you cant see that,

i guess storm wasnt originally drawn as black with blond hair.....mere an uncomputerized separation of a white girl with blond hair

SugarMan

05-04-2009, 05:56 AM

Very nice avatars. And couldn't help but notice she looked a lot darker in the past.

This was also discussed in the X-Factor letters page.

That JonoGuy

05-04-2009, 03:41 PM

Justin K.

05-04-2009, 05:01 PM

I'd like to see how celebrity affects Monet. She has been on magazine covers, so she most likely would be a tad bit famous. It would be interesting to see M take on the role as a spokesperson for mutants.

I don't think she could be a spokesperson, she'd have someone do that for her

SayOcean

05-04-2009, 06:18 PM

I'd like to see how celebrity affects Monet. She has been on magazine covers, so she most likely would be a tad bit famous. It would be interesting to see M take on the role as a spokesperson for mutants.i dont see why people thinks M would be this great person for mutants....shes not nice....it would be dumb to put a not nice person as the face an already unpopular race like mutants

That JonoGuy

05-04-2009, 06:37 PM

i dont see why people thinks M would be this great person for mutants....shes not nice....it would be dumb to put a not nice person as the face an already unpopular race like mutants

I'm not necessarily saying she would be a good advocate, but if she does have celebrity status she is bound to have people that would look up to her and fall on her every word.

SayOcean

05-04-2009, 06:43 PM

I'm not necessarily saying she would be a good advocate, but if she does have celebrity status she is bound to have people that would look up to her and fall on her every word.
being famous does not make people look up to you......i.e. coutney love, linsay lohan, amy winehouse,mel gibson,

That JonoGuy

05-04-2009, 06:59 PM

being famous does not make people look up to you......i.e. coutney love, linsay lohan, amy winehouse,mel gibson,

Are you joking? The most f-ed up celebrities have the most fanatical fans. Just look at Britney Spears.

Justin K.

05-04-2009, 07:00 PM

Who gives a fuck about her race? Is it really that important?
Does it really affect if you like her? Why should it matter?

SayOcean

05-04-2009, 07:06 PM

Are you joking? The most f-ed up celebrities have the most fanatical fans. Just look at Britney Spears.yeah but do people really look Up to them...as person they should try and mock their habits?

Who gives a fuck about her race? Is it really that important?
Does it really affect if you like her? Why should it matter?Obviously I do. Yes. No. It shouldn't but it does.

Justin K.

05-04-2009, 07:10 PM

Obviously I do. Yes. No. It shouldn't but it does.

So if M was caucasian instead, you wouldn't like her all of a sudden?

4sake

05-04-2009, 07:17 PM

Who gives a fuck about her race? Is it really that important?
Does it really affect if you like her? Why should it matter?

Who gives a fuck about her race?
I care about it.

Is it really that important?
Yes it is important.

Does it really affect if you like her?
For me yes

Why should it matter?
Because they're rarely people of my race, skin & etc in comics. also there are to few people of my race in comics & especially in X-men comics.

Justin K.

05-04-2009, 07:22 PM

Double Post

That JonoGuy

05-04-2009, 07:26 PM

I don't think she could be a spokesperson, she'd have someone do that for her

Okay, maybe she wouldn't be a willing spokesperson. If someone took a quote from her I could see it being used as such. Celebrity quotes are often used to advance a cause whether it is a deliberate act or not.

SayOcean

05-04-2009, 07:26 PM

So if M was caucasian instead, you wouldn't like her all of a sudden?

No I wouldn't just not like her but i would bring it up every chance i got

Justin K.

05-04-2009, 07:28 PM

No I wouldn't just not like her but i would bring it up every chance i got

So you're basing how you feel about a character on skin colour?

That JonoGuy

05-04-2009, 07:28 PM

SayOcean

05-04-2009, 07:30 PM

So you're basing how you feel about a character on skin colour?I feel incline to pay more attention to a character if they looked liked me, and i literally just said i wouldn't STOP liking her, but if a dark skinned character became white it would be dumb and i would fell almost obligated to point out the higher ups dumbness

That JonoGuy

05-04-2009, 07:33 PM

Who gives a fuck about her race?

I don't give an F, but I do care somewhat.

Is it really that important?

It matters, but I'm not sweating over it.

Does it really affect if you like her?

Not in the least

Why should it matter?

It only matters that she be portrayed consistently.

Alphaxman

05-04-2009, 08:48 PM

I new to this discussion but I do miss her smarts. She really could be up there with Beast as the go to science person.

That JonoGuy

05-04-2009, 08:50 PM

I new to this discussion but I do miss her smarts. She really could be up there with Beast as the go to science person.

Monet in a lab coat with Beat... now that would be an interesting thing to see.

Justin K.

05-04-2009, 08:52 PM

Monet in a lab coat with Beat... now that would be an interesting thing to see.

More interesting if she actually outsmarted him
The look on his face would be priceless

That JonoGuy

05-04-2009, 08:53 PM

More interesting if she actually outsmarted him
The look on his face would be priceless

And not doubt she would only be there just to prove how superior she could be in the lab.

Alphaxman

05-04-2009, 08:53 PM

Monet in a lab coat with Beat... now that would be an interesting thing to see.

Even though it was the twins I loved it when she made Emma look dumb. I really need to reread those early Gen X books.

That JonoGuy

05-04-2009, 08:57 PM

Even though it was the twins I loved it when she made Emma look dumb. I really need to reread those early Gen X books.

I just reread them a few weeks back. Those first four issues are just filled with great M moments

Slung

05-04-2009, 09:34 PM

I feel incline to pay more attention to a character if they looked liked me, and i literally just said i wouldn't STOP liking her, but if a dark skinned character became white it would be dumb and i would fell almost obligated to point out the higher ups dumbness

She isn't "black" though (at least not in the African American sense). She is North African (Berber (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berbers) most likely - which is more similar to a middle eastern descent). That is how she started out. Whether or not she has as dark a shade of skin as Synch or as light as Husk, does not change the fact that her ethnicity is North African (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Africa) not African American. Her feature and makeup is more Mediterranean or middle eastern than sub-Saharan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-Saharan_Africa). I don't want you not to like Monet, I'm just trying to explain who she is so that you can appreciate her for that.

Slung

05-04-2009, 09:35 PM

I just reread them a few weeks back. Those first four issues are just filled with great M moments

Best Monet ever is in the first six books or so of Generation X!

SayOcean

05-04-2009, 11:54 PM

She isn't "black" though (at least not in the African American sense). She is North African (Berber (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berbers) most likely - which is more similar to a middle eastern descent). That is how she started out. Whether or not she has as dark a shade of skin as Synch or as light as Husk, does not change the fact that her ethnicity is North African (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Africa) not African American. Her feature and makeup is more Mediterranean or middle eastern than sub-Saharan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-Saharan_Africa). I don't want you not to like Monet, I'm just trying to explain who she is so that you can appreciate her for that.im not trying to make her black i just wish they
would go back to her orginal darker skin, whats the big deal?

Justin K.

05-05-2009, 12:01 AM

Different artists have different styles, not all are consistent with each other
Different artists/inkers doesn't mean tey're trying to change her skin colour
I'm assuming it's personal preference.

Slung

05-05-2009, 12:02 AM

im not trying to make her black i just wish they
would go back to her orginal darker skin, whats the big deal?

I just don't believe she was ever as dark as Synch, but I do agree she is lighter now than she was. But there was a period of time where she was too dark (Pugh and part of Dodson time).

SayOcean

05-05-2009, 12:10 AM

Different artists have different styles, not all are consistent with each other
Different artists/inkers doesn't mean tey're trying to change her skin colour
I'm assuming it's personal preference.for them to keep lighting the skin color of minority characters......thats a personal preference? i mean why dont they just have everyone be the same color....that way it would be easier to get books out on time

I just don't believe she was ever as dark as Synch, but I do agree she is lighter now than she was. But there was a period of time where she was too dark (Pugh and part of Dodson time).please....please go back and read phalanx covenant

Justin K.

05-05-2009, 12:18 AM

for them to keep lighting the skin color of minority characters......thats a personal preference? i mean why dont they just have everyone be the same color....that way it would be easier to get books out on time

It's not like they choose to make her lighter, but some just have a certain distinguished style
It would be easier to make her the same colour all the time
But, for example, do Sonia Oback, Jon Sibal, and Clayton Crain all ink the same? Some are more known to use darker colours, some lighter.

Slung

05-05-2009, 12:44 AM

for them to keep lighting the skin color of minority characters......thats a personal preference? i mean why dont they just have everyone be the same color....that way it would be easier to get books out on time

please....please go back and read phalanx covenant

I know what you are talking about with the Phalanx Covenenant, but the coloring there was inconsistent (and not very good either) compared to the GenX coloring - which would be her definitive coloring since the characters creators were put in charge.

Her first cover during the Phalanx
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Monet_Genx.gif

Much lighter than Synch
http://www.theuncannyxmen.com/images/xmen36small.jpg

Much lighter than Bishop
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/112165-73478-m_super.jpg

I love having all types of people represented in comics. Which is why I push so hard for Monet to keep her North African, Berber heritage. It is unique in comics.

peopleofpaper

05-05-2009, 12:48 AM

I know what you are talking about with the Phalanx Covenenant, but the coloring there was inconsistent (and not very good either) compared to the GenX coloring - which would be her definitive coloring since the characters creators were put in charge.

Her first cover during the Phalanx
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Monet_Genx.gif

Much lighter than Synch
http://www.theuncannyxmen.com/images/xmen36small.jpg

Much lighter than Bishop
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/112165-73478-m_super.jpg

I love having all types of people represented in comics. Which is why I push so hard for Monet to keep her North African, Berber heritage. It is unique in comics.

I miss Joe Mad. Those were some of the first issues of any comic book I've ever read. That's probably why I'm such a fan of M and Psylocke. I felt they were at their best back then.

Justin K.

05-05-2009, 12:50 AM

I miss Joe Mad. Those were some of the first issues of any comic book I've ever read. That's probably why I'm such a fan of M and Psylocke. I felt they were at their best back then.

What book is he on? Is he still working on any?

Slung

05-05-2009, 12:51 AM

It's not like they choose to make her lighter, but some just have a certain distinguished style
It would be easier to make her the same colour all the time
But, for example, do Sonia Oback, Jon Sibal, and Clayton Crain all ink the same? Some are more known to use darker colours, some lighter.

I agree that different artists have a different palette they are working from. I really like Oback usually for instance, but I don't like her blue Archangel. I thought Crain had really found a unique coloring for the character and Oback went back to the cheesy 90's color scheme. Similarly with Domino - her skin should be like REALLY pale, but they were making her too peachy.

peopleofpaper

05-05-2009, 12:54 AM

What book is he on? Is he still working on any?

i haven't been keeping up but i know he did Street Fighter for a while and maybe something with The Avengers once(?). i just want him back on uncanny.

Justin K.

05-05-2009, 12:55 AM

i haven't been keeping up but i know he did Street Fighter for a while and maybe something with The Avengers once(?). i just want him back on uncanny.

The thought of a Land drawn M has me cringing

Slung

05-05-2009, 12:56 AM

What book is he on? Is he still working on any?

Last book I know was Ultimates (which was awful). He is SOOO slow now though that we'd have to have him rotate with two other artists just to get a monthly book.

Justin K.

05-05-2009, 01:01 AM

Last book I know was Ultimates (which was awful). He is SOOO slow now though that we'd have to have him rotate with two other artists just to get a monthly book.

His new stuff (http://www.dudetubeonline.com/2007/07/25/ultimates-20070724055637699.jpg) looks so different. Looking back at the Phalanx Covenant
it's more simplified. The new stuff is a bit more over-the-top, but still good.

Nicoclaws

05-05-2009, 01:49 AM

im not trying to make her black i just wish they
would go back to her orginal darker skin, whats the big deal?

I personnaly prefer her skin to be lighter than Synch and co. Not enough light black colors in comics.

blinkinrogue

05-05-2009, 02:11 AM

i just came about lobdell's interview about what he was planning to do with M if he contineud to write gen x. and im kinda glad he didnt continue writing it or we might not have seen M again. :frown:

Justin K.

05-05-2009, 02:20 AM

i just came about lobdell's interview about what he was planning to do with M if he contineud to write gen x. and im kinda glad he didnt continue writing it or we might not have seen M again. :frown:

What would have happened? I am curious.

blinkinrogue

05-05-2009, 04:25 AM

Slung

05-05-2009, 08:02 AM

That JonoGuy

05-05-2009, 11:52 AM

im not trying to make her black i just wish they
would go back to her orginal darker skin, whats the big deal?

If you're not trying to make her black then why are you objecting to what has been a consistent portrayal for her? You may be saying you're not, but I'm inclined not to believe you.

That JonoGuy

05-05-2009, 11:55 AM

It was obvious that was the original plan and I think it would have been brilliant. They wouldn't have gotten rid of Monet. The twins as Monet were more mature than Jubilee.

That is if Emma and Sean decided to let them stay together as M. I wonder how easy it would have been for them to separate. It would have been interesting to see them let the M Twins "out" ever now and them. M's story certainly would have much more fascinating to watch.

That JonoGuy

05-05-2009, 11:59 AM

One of the things I liked about M's original portrayed was that she didn't try to come off as sexy. She was beautiful, no doubt, but she didn't wear anything that really exaggerated her beauty.

SayOcean

05-05-2009, 12:01 PM

^ he said that a wall would fall on M and it would seperate as the twins. banshee and emma would decide if they will allow the twins to merge back and become M again or not let them merge again so as not to endanger them. seems the original plan is that there was no real M, only the twins.Yeah i thought everyone knew that...i was hoping for more future stories he had thought of

It was obvious that was the original plan and I think it would have been brilliant. They wouldn't have gotten rid of Monet. The twins as Monet were more mature than Jubilee. yeah but putting two 8 year olds, one is even handicapped in danger just doesnt make much sense

Here are some pics of M from her first appearance. She doesn't look as dark as you seemingly want her to be.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7664/17824420.png

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8820/37088789.png

It isn't much different than how she was portrayed in Generation X.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378451-183008-m_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378458-105955-m_super.jpg
ive done the picture thing.....im not saying that M had to be really dark....(what exactly is light black?) Im just saying when compared to synch in the same issues people are getting scans from their hues are closer to the same color/if not the same color than they would be now

That JonoGuy

05-05-2009, 12:18 PM

ive done the picture thing.....im not saying that M had to be really dark....(what exactly is light black?) Im just saying when compared to synch in the same issues people are getting scans from their hues are closer to the same color/if not the same color than they would be now

I didn't think anyone was disputing that her current portrayal in X-Factor is far too light. As for the differences in skin hue between M and Synch. Are you saying that the scans i posted earlier with both of them in it show them with the same hue? The difference is there, as it was the colorists intent. You may not be able to see it, but it is there.

Do you agree that the images i just posted are an accurate portrayal for her?

I am beginning to think you may have misunderstood this post...

That tone/color is right about where she should be though

as a reference to her current portrayal.

SayOcean

05-05-2009, 12:37 PM

I didn't think anyone was disputing that her current portrayal in X-Factor is far too light. As for the differences in skin hue between M and Synch. Are you saying that the scans i posted earlier with both of them in it show them with the same hue? The difference is there, as it was the colorists intent. You may not be able to see it, but it is there.

Do you agree that the images i just posted are an accurate portrayal for her?

I am beginning to think you may have misunderstood this post...

as a reference to her current portrayal.yeah Ive posted more pics where M and Synchs skin color matched up, or weren't that far apart....but it doesn't really matter, My scans didn't convince you....you and your 5 scans didn't convince me.....it's gay i know..

That JonoGuy

05-05-2009, 01:51 PM

Who should Monet's next relationship be with? No one in the X-Line springs to mind, but I am sure within the MU there is someone who would be a fitting match for her. Any thoughts?

blinkinrogue

05-05-2009, 02:09 PM

I was thinking angel because they would make a beautiful couple but knowing what angel did to husk, maybe monet would not be so receptive lols.

That JonoGuy

05-05-2009, 02:23 PM

I was thinking angel because they would make a beautiful couple but knowing what angel did to husk, maybe monet would not be so receptive lols.

I could see them hooking up, but I don't think they would be very good in a relationship. They are very similar(beautiful, rich, unable to share their feeling openly) that I would think that they would be more likely to clash.

Alphaxman

05-05-2009, 02:53 PM

I would image her color similar to Helle Berry or Beyonce while Synch was more P-Diddy/Kayne West.

I agree that they should not make her try to be sexy. She is beautiful and she knows it but she knows she doesn’t have to flaunt it.

I think it would have been a more unique mutant if she stayed combined twins and not be a “real” Monet. That would give her a weakness. I mean she is pretty much perfect right now. She is a powerful telepath, she is super strong, near invincible, can fly, and a genius. Give her heat vision and she would have been Supergirl.

yanapryde

05-05-2009, 03:00 PM

I Give her heat vision and she would have been Supergirl.

Monet probably thinks heat vision is tacky.:smile:

Alphaxman

05-05-2009, 03:25 PM

Monet probably thinks heat vision is tacky.:smile:

LOL your right and she would never be cought dead in a mid drif and short skirt. Too Briteny Spears for taste.

Madrox was lucky to see her cookie box so why would see show the whole world.

yanapryde

05-05-2009, 03:29 PM

I'd actually enjoy her thoughts on Supergirl.
I think she would find her vapid and tasteless.

That JonoGuy

05-05-2009, 03:32 PM

Marvel Vs DC. Monet Vs Supergirl. Bring it on!

More avatars coming at you with some lovely art by Valentine De Landro

Prodigy55

05-05-2009, 03:33 PM

Heat vision is tacky. I'm glad Monet doesn't have it. Her mutant power is to be perfect.

That JonoGuy

05-05-2009, 03:39 PM

Speaking of female powerhouses, what other non-marvel character would you like to see M go up against?

Prodigy55

05-05-2009, 03:41 PM

Moonstone for sure.

That JonoGuy

05-05-2009, 03:44 PM

Moonstone for sure.

Moonstone is a great choice. She'd probably have a one up on Monet due to her professional background. I don't see Monet standing much of a chance. It certainly would be entertaining to watch though.

psycwave

05-05-2009, 03:47 PM

I choose Arachne.

blinkinrogue

05-06-2009, 02:26 AM

Moonstone is a great choice. She'd probably have a one up on Monet due to her professional background. I don't see Monet standing much of a chance. It certainly would be entertaining to watch though.

well i dunno, M is M, it's not like she will let moonstone get the best of her. she'll probably teach moonstone fashion advice while beating her senseless :biggrin: :biggrin:

and yes, no heat vision please. her telepathic powers more than make up for any heat vision hehe.

Perfection/Emma 2

05-06-2009, 02:31 AM

Monet would crushed Karla. I hope to see Monet use her telepathy more in fights soon and gives nightmare suggestions

blinkinrogue

05-06-2009, 02:35 AM

^ she also needs to display her superior intellect more. omg, im getting repetitive over this hehe.

Slung

05-06-2009, 04:59 AM

yeah Ive posted more pics where M and Synchs skin color matched up, or weren't that far apart....but it doesn't really matter, My scans didn't convince you....you and your 5 scans didn't convince me.....it's gay i know..

Did you just use "gay" as a pejorative term? Hmmm...

PSA for you! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhKLbqLw_B8)

That JonoGuy

05-06-2009, 01:17 PM

well i dunno, M is M, it's not like she will let moonstone get the best of her. she'll probably teach moonstone fashion advice while beating her senseless :biggrin: :biggrin:

I didn't take into account M's telepathic abilities. She might be able to scramble her mind to the point where Moonstone might need psychiatric help herself. Moonstone is very resourceful and manipulative herself though, so I'm she she won't be going down that easily.

visi

05-06-2009, 06:13 PM

Hmmmmm good question, I do think their couplingy would be interesting, they're both very superficial and just sort of high brow. I also think she'd be good with Sunspot for some reason. They would just be y mocha perfection

That JonoGuy

05-06-2009, 06:31 PM

Hmmmmm good question, I do think their coupling would be interesting, they're both very superficial and just sort of high brow. I also think she'd be good with Sunspot for some reason. They would just be y mocha perfection

Great choice. I think they would probably be a much better fit than her and Angel.

Alphaxman

05-06-2009, 06:53 PM

Great choice. I think they would probably be a much better fit than her and Angel.

I agree that she would go for Berto over Warren. Plus he is pretty rich himself. And she would never go for Pagie seconds. It's was bad enough with Terry and James.

That JonoGuy

05-06-2009, 06:56 PM

I agree that she would go for Berto over Warren. Plus he is pretty rich himself. And she would never go for Pagie seconds. It's was bad enough with Terry and James.

Terry and James? I'm a little lost here. Did you mean Terry and Madrox?

Prodigy55

05-06-2009, 06:58 PM

I don't want her to hook up with Sunspot, he's way lame.

That JonoGuy

05-06-2009, 07:02 PM

I don't want her to hook up with Sunspot, he's way lame.

I don't necessarily want to see them together either, but i could definitely see them connecting.

Alphaxman

05-06-2009, 07:10 PM

Terry and James? I'm a little lost here. Did you mean Terry and Madrox?

Yeah sorry I meant Jamie.

blinkinrogue

05-07-2009, 10:49 AM

come to think of it, i think monet doesnt really care if her man is rich or not. arent madrox and synch middle class (well madrox is sort of upper-middle class i think?).

Justin K.

05-07-2009, 10:52 AM

come to think of it, i think monet doesnt really care if her man is rich or not. arent madrox and synch middle class (well madrox is sort of upper-middle class i think?).

While having coffee in Paris with Siryn, she claimed she bedded/dated 2 princes at once
Though deep down, M probably likes an average guy, I'm assuming. Madrox did win a million dollars
But that went towards X-Factor investigations.

SayOcean

05-07-2009, 10:56 AM

Im pretty sure Synch would be upper middle class.......And i really dont want M to turn into the cliche' poor little rich girl, I want her to be just as bastardly as Sunspot....they would be a pretty good couple, they could talk about being rich....and about their pigment keeps changing

Justin K.

05-07-2009, 11:00 AM

blinkinrogue

05-07-2009, 11:08 AM

Justin K.

05-07-2009, 11:12 AM

i havent read that issue i think so i am not a fan of M being written as... i dont know the term... too sexually active? ok so she ws originally made up of the twins who think boys are ewwww but still that was the M i liked, the girl too good for any boy. reading that about her sleeping with 2 princes makes her... i dont know... cheap? lols.

She's not so much sexual, though she has had a couple interactions. She seems more promiscuous and mischievious in an adult Manner.
In Gen X, she was mischievious in the smarty pants way, mostly to Emma. The Layla Miller of Generation X

Sleeping with 2 princes, that was never proven. Siryn laughed at the thought of that.

blinkinrogue

05-07-2009, 11:20 AM

She's not so much sexual, though she has had a couple interactions. She seems more promiscuous and mischievious in an adult Manner.
In Gen X, she was mischievious in the smarty pants way, mostly to Emma. The Layla Miller of Generation X

Sleeping with 2 princes, that was never proven. Siryn laughed at the thought of that.

whew! and i hope it remains unproven, lols.

PsylockeSpears

05-07-2009, 12:52 PM

Im Re-Reading Gen-X at the moment and i have fallen in love with M all over again (sure its the twinny M but ya know what i mean)

That JonoGuy

05-07-2009, 01:00 PM

Sleeping with 2 princes, that was never proven.

I don't see M really lying about something like that though. She seems more the type to gloat about it. If it was said by the M -Twins M, i might think they weren't being serious.

Justin K.

05-07-2009, 01:06 PM

I don't see M really lying about something like that though. She seems more the type to gloat about it. If it was said by the M -Twins M, i might think they weren't being serious.

She could have gloated in a rich-girl sense.
Example: I got shinier shoes than what you have on and what I got on right now

It contrasts them both sleeping with Madrox.
That's just how I see it though...

That JonoGuy

05-07-2009, 01:16 PM

Monet seemed to get hot and heavy with Synch pretty quickly. That's partly why i think it isn't out of the question she may have been telling the truth.

Justin K.

05-07-2009, 01:20 PM

Monet seemed to get hot and heavy with Synch pretty quickly. That's partly why i think it isn't out of the question she may have been telling the truth. I understand that no one really wants M to be seen a "slut".

I thought she was "hot and heavy" with Synch because of her time being trapped
in the Penance shell, to be able to feel human contact without shredding them.
I mean, now, I'm sure she's used to touch

That JonoGuy

05-07-2009, 01:24 PM

I thought she was "hot and heavy" with Synch because of her time being trapped
in the Penance shell, to be able to feel human contact without shredding them.
I mean, now, I'm sure she's used to touch

Well, if seems she is still dealing with her time in the Penance form(as seen in issue 13 of X-Factor), so it would make sense for her to still act out for some human contact.

SugarMan

05-08-2009, 10:03 AM

I've been thinking about Monet's characterization in Gen-X, particularly the catatonic state her sisters went into while impersonationg her. That was never fully explained. Seems the girls tried to mimic Monet, right down to her personality. So was this a problem of the girls, or Monet?

Justin K.

05-08-2009, 10:05 AM

SugarMan

05-08-2009, 10:16 AM

One of the girls was Autistic and it was the cause of "M" blanking out.

Ok, now I sort of remember something about that.

That JonoGuy

05-11-2009, 02:53 PM

Slung

05-11-2009, 06:27 PM

Im Re-Reading Gen-X at the moment and i have fallen in love with M all over again (sure its the twinny M but ya know what i mean)

Thats the best M anyway.

That JonoGuy

05-17-2009, 06:09 PM

I though I'd share some more avatars I made with art from Joe Madureira. Feel free to use them.

That JonoGuy

05-17-2009, 06:20 PM

Free-Man

05-17-2009, 06:21 PM

Was Gateway's connection to M(The Twins) ever fully explained? Do you think his relationship was solely with the girls or with the family as a whole, considering their troubled history.

I wouldn't mind seeing it brought up again as long as they don't make them related. Like we need THAT again.

There were some things they never explained. At some point, I think they even hinted that Monet was somehow related to Lucas Bishop. I'd like Peter David to shed some light on M's true ethnicity as well, as we've seen her go from being a tanned white girl, a black girl, and an Arab girl. I would like for Pete to have M clear it up with one quick word balloon: "My dad's Mulatto, and my mom was Algerian."

There, problem solved.

That JonoGuy

05-17-2009, 06:43 PM

There were some things they never explained. At some point, I think they even hinted that Monet was somehow related to Lucas Bishop.

Yeah, the Bishop connection was just Lobdell being a tease. He had no intention to make them related.

I'd like Peter David to shed some light on M's true ethnicity as well, as we've seen her go from being a tanned white girl, a black girl, and an Arab girl. I would like for Pete to have M clear it up with one quick word balloon: "My dad's Mulatto, and my mom was Algerian."

There, problem solved.

In the past, the M-Twins as M identified themselves as Native Algerians. I think her mother being Algerian was also established as well. Her father of course is a whole different story. I just hope that if he ever makes another appearance it will be as he was initially portrayed in Generation X. Plus, maybe we can get him back to his loony self.

Free-Man

05-17-2009, 06:48 PM

Yeah, the Bishop connection was just Lobdell being a tease. He had no intention to make them related.

In the past, the M-Twins as M identified themselves as Native Algerians. I think her mother being Algerian was also established as well. Her father of course is a whole different story. I just hope that if he ever makes another appearance it will be as he was initially portrayed in Generation X. Plus, maybe we can get him back to his loony self.

Well, when I was younger, I always thought of M as being a black heroine. I would like them to make her father a white/black biracial and then just keep her mother Algerian. Then everyone wins!

That JonoGuy

05-17-2009, 06:53 PM

Well, when I was younger, I always thought of M as being a black heroine. I would like them to make her father a white/black biracial and then just keep her mother Algerian. Then everyone wins!

I thought the same way when i was younger as well. My view of her was a pretty cut and dry view. She wasn't white, therefore she was black. Not the most enlightened view. I know now that there is a lot more in between.

That JonoGuy

05-17-2009, 06:59 PM

Has Monet had any other appearances in media outside of the Generation X TV Movie? I remember Penance showing up in the X-Men Animated Series from the 90's, but I don't remember if M had any cameos. I hope M at least makes a cameo in WatXM.

I found a site (http://svunlimited.net/gallery/categories.php?cat_id=63&page=1) with some screen caps of M from the Generation X TV Movie for your enjoyment(or disgust, whichever you choose).

Also, here are some more avatars I made. Feel free to use any of them.

darknessatnoon

05-17-2009, 07:03 PM

This story is outrageous (http://www.comcast.net/news/badeaupov/21/quotwhiteafricanamericanquotsuesnjmedicalschool/).

Free-Man

05-17-2009, 07:03 PM

I found a site (http://svunlimited.net/gallery/categories.php?cat_id=63&page=1) with some screen caps of M from the Generation X TV Movie for your enjoyment(or disgust, whichever you choose).

More confusion over her race! But I thought the movie was cool in a so bad it's good kind of way. Kind of like the Spirit and the Wonder Woman tv movie.

But I love how Jubilee was played by a white actress and Mondo was played by a light skinned black kid.

Justin K.

05-17-2009, 07:07 PM

Are M's eyes blue or brown?
Noticed in the newest her eyes were coloured blue
Miscolour? Others, they were brown.

That JonoGuy

05-17-2009, 07:09 PM

More confusion over her race! But I thought the movie was cool in a so bad it's good kind of way. Kind of like the Spirit and the Wonder Woman tv movie.

But I love how Jubilee was played by a white actress and Mondo was played by a light skinned black kid.

I enjoyed it as well. It wasn't a masterpiece, but it didn't need to be. Other than her horrid hair and somewhat bitchier attitude, Amarilis did a fairly good job as M.

That JonoGuy

05-17-2009, 07:09 PM

Are M's eyes blue or brown?
Noticed in the newest her eyes were coloured blue
Miscolour? Others, they were brown.

Monet should have brown eyes. I want Brian Reber back as the colorist. :frown:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/375581-126074-m_super.jpg

Free-Man

05-17-2009, 07:12 PM

I enjoyed it as well. It wasn't a masterpiece, but it didn't need to be. Other than her horrid hair and somewhat bitchier attitude, Amarilis did a fairly good job as M.

It's kind of a shame that the proposed TV series never came to pass. And where was Synch?

That JonoGuy

05-17-2009, 07:15 PM

It's kind of a shame that the proposed TV series never came to pass. And where was Synch?

Yeah, Synch could have easily made it into the movie. He could have been shown using M, Jubilee or even Banshee's power all at once. It would have been awesome to see his rainbow aura. I would gladly have taken him over their version of Mondo.

That JonoGuy

05-20-2009, 11:33 PM

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05-20-2009, 11:35 PM

That JonoGuy

05-20-2009, 11:45 PM

How would you rate M's various looks?

Here is how I would rate them from best to worst.

1. X-Factor - Part of a group look, but has an individual flare to it that is all Monet.

2. Generation X - Classic, but not very distinctive when it viewed with the whole team look.

3. Counter X - Other than the weird skirt thing I loved this look.

4. Jacket X-Corps - A stylish jacket look? What's not to love.

5. X-Corps - A simple militaristic look.

6. X-Corporation - Generic X-Men uniform.

7. Alternate Counter X - Not loving it, but at least it has some personality to it.

8. Adrienne's Generation X - Why fix something that isn't broken.

That JonoGuy

05-20-2009, 11:48 PM

I like the X-Factor look the best. For a hot second there, I was loving the X-Corps uniform until I realized she looks just like the Baroness from G.I. Joe:

http://baroness.fansector.com/images/gallery/baroness_cobra_gallery_0004.jpg

Ha! They do have a similar look, and they both work that uniform just the same.

Justin K.

05-21-2009, 12:17 AM

How would you rate M's various looks?

A Generation X (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5648/306551-72453-m_super.jpg)

B Adrienne's Generation X (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5648/306552-113216-m_super.jpg)

C Counter X (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5648/306553-45387-m_super.jpg)

D Alternate Counter X (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5648/306554-27809-m_super.jpg)

E X-Corps (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/308096-194653-m_super.jpg)

F Jacket X-Corps (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/529632-senza_titolo_23_super.jpg)

G X-Corporation (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29735/687861-monet15_super.jpg)

H X-Factor (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/231370-77126-m_super.jpg)

A. Red is definitely Monet's color and this is probably my favourite Generation X look. It's simple, and a classic look shared amongst the team.
Grade: A

B. A bit clunky and bulky, but still a look one can like. I love the consistent color scheme shared with the rest of the team. The mask shows they got something to hide without coming off as suspicious.
Grade: B+

C. The white side-skirt clashes too much with the yellow and red. An example of when clashing is not a good idea. Ballet slippers? No thanks.
Grade: C-

D. It was short-lived, but I liked it more than the other Counter X. It was trendy and different, with her own elements, but still maneuverable.
Grade: B

E. I like it. It was a simple uniform that both genders could wear without it looking awkward.
Grade: B-

F. Cute at first glance, but a bit formal for fighting..
Grade: C

G. Too common. What X-character didn't have one of those jackets? I prefer a trendsetting M.
Grade: D+

H. I don't like the cape! There, I said it! Otherwise, I love the look. Elegant yet simple. Heroic, yet sophisticated.
Grade A-

SayOcean

05-21-2009, 12:34 AM

I like the gen x and x factor ones the best....gen x wins slightly cause she looked darker.....:biggrin: the xmen one wasnt so bad...but what the f^ck is up with all that sh!t they have arong her waist....it reminds me of middle school when i went to public and all the ghetto girls tied those horrible windbreaker jackets around themselves

That JonoGuy

05-21-2009, 12:36 AM

H. I don't like the cape! There, I said it! Otherwise, I love the look. Elegant yet simple. Heroic, yet sophisticated.
Grade A-

I can see not liking the cape. I think that with the cape gone though, her gloves would look odd. I think they kind of balance each other out.

Honestly though, Monet doesn't need a cape to look hot flying through the air.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/319714-132827-siryn_super.jpg

Justin K.

05-21-2009, 12:41 AM

I can see not liking the cape. I think that with the cape gone though, her gloves would look odd. I think they kind of balance each other out.

Honestly though, Monet doesn't need a cape to look hot flying through the air.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/319714-132827-siryn_super.jpg

I love casual M best in X-Factor. From red pants and a tee
to black leather and a long coat. Her look in the Arcade arc was classy as well.
Dirty, Sexy Monet, seems a bit unusual, but it's all fun, a girls gotta let loose eventually.

Free-Man

05-21-2009, 04:19 AM

I can see not liking the cape. I think that with the cape gone though, her gloves would look odd. I think they kind of balance each other out.

Honestly though, Monet doesn't need a cape to look hot flying through the air.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/319714-132827-siryn_super.jpg

I'd prefer she and Siryn both lose their costumes. I mean, isn't the whole point of the book supposed to be that they're detectives, not superheroes?

M should just stick to her black duster, and Siryn can stick with that green jacket with the glider wings under the arms.

That JonoGuy

05-21-2009, 03:12 PM

I'd prefer she and Siryn both lose their costumes. I mean, isn't the whole point of the book supposed to be that they're detectives, not superheroes?

M should just stick to her black duster, and Siryn can stick with that green jacket with the glider wings under the arms.

I agree, it is just sad to see a good design go to waste.

And I believe the term is superdetectives. :biggrin:

The funny thing about the Sook designs is that it was mostly the women on the team whose look most resembled a superhero costume.

Quinnhop

05-21-2009, 05:12 PM

Dirty, Sexy Monet, seems a bit unusual, but it's all fun, a girls gotta let loose eventually.

I think she's been Cortex'd.

Free-Man

05-21-2009, 05:44 PM

The funny thing about the Sook designs is that it was mostly the women on the team whose look most resembled a superhero costume.

Female+Superhero Suits=Cheesecake

Cheesecake=Good Sales :biggrin:

SayOcean

05-24-2009, 11:24 AM

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/PoserKiller/grindhouse3.jpg they really need to hurry and make a new Gen x movie....i think sydney would make the prefect M

FeminineMystique

05-24-2009, 11:27 AM

I love her. She's wonderful, snarky, sarcactic bitchy and utterly hillarious to read. I'm also glad that, while making her more sympathetic the writers have stayed true to her "Rich bitch" persona and attitude. If only the same could be said for Emma Frost...

That JonoGuy

05-24-2009, 02:11 PM

First with Jubilee, then with Siryn. Which female hero should she befriend over a guy next?

SayOcean

05-24-2009, 02:58 PM

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/PoserKiller/2007-11-15t062336z_01_nootr_rtridsp.jpgseriously who is more prefect to play M?

Vanish

05-24-2009, 03:12 PM

he got darkstar character DEAD ON....get it????

and i think he wanted to Kill off M in one story,IM gald he didnt, thats probably the one thing i dont like about the guy

EDIT: oh and the Risque thing

Good job, good sir. :smile:

I can see where you are coming from. In GX it seemed when she was insulting it wasn't in a personal way. It seemed more of a "matter of fact" way. Now she seems to insult to inflict hurt. I think this should be explored. Has something happened that she is acting out in this way. I think this has definite story potential.

I agree with this. In some ways I side with Slung about Monet's current portrayal, but in others I'm really feeling current Monet a lot (obviously).

Monet should have brown eyes. I want Brian Reber back as the colorist. :frown:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/375581-126074-m_super.jpg

I think I LOVE this coloring of her so I agree!

How would you rate M's various looks?

A Generation X (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5648/306551-72453-m_super.jpg)

B Adrienne's Generation X (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5648/306552-113216-m_super.jpg)

C Counter X (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5648/306553-45387-m_super.jpg)

D Alternate Counter X (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5648/306554-27809-m_super.jpg)

E X-Corps (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/308096-194653-m_super.jpg)

F Jacket X-Corps (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/529632-senza_titolo_23_super.jpg)

G X-Corporation (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29735/687861-monet15_super.jpg)

H X-Factor (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/231370-77126-m_super.jpg)

LOL Monet is such a bad dresser. OMAGAH.

I think I only like her original Gen X costume and I only love her red X-Factor costume.

I despise the Rolling Stones shirt. Post-Calero artists have been doing Monet dirty with her wardrobe.

That JonoGuy

05-24-2009, 03:16 PM

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/PoserKiller/2007-11-15t062336z_01_nootr_rtridsp.jpgseriously who is more prefect to play M?

Leïla Bekhti of course.

Oh, you were being rhetorical. :biggrin:

Slung

05-24-2009, 03:25 PM

Leïla Bekhti of course.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8053/61942320.png

Oh, you were being rhetorical. :biggrin:

This is the correct answer. But the answer is copyrighted to me. So, please be sure to credit me whenever using this answer.

blinkinrogue

05-24-2009, 03:26 PM

I though I'd share some Joe Mad M avatars I made.

some of those pics are not by joe mad, i think by the artist who copied his style (roger cruz i think?)

blinkinrogue

05-24-2009, 03:31 PM

ah, yes roger cruz. swiping is so intriguing, reminds me of another cartoon that was based exactly on a scene from naruto (i think cowboy something)

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/09/11/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-172/

edit: i think naruto swiped from cowboy bebop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgvlMPO0Xq0

SayOcean

05-24-2009, 03:31 PM

This is the correct answer. But the answer is copyrighted to me. So, please be sure to credit me whenever using this answer.
you guys are very wrong...but its okay it takes a while but eventually everyone agrees with me....maybe if we were casting Omega Sentinel.....but that girl just doesnt have the looks to pull M off

Slung

05-24-2009, 03:41 PM

you guys are very wrong...but its okay it takes a while but eventually everyone agrees with me....maybe if we were casting Omega Sentinel.....but that girl just doesnt have the looks to pull M off

She's Algerian and French, and a solid actress what could possibly be more correct than that?

http://www.ecranlarge.com/upload/wiki/article/small_18464.jpg

http://a449.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/29/l_9932baa763ab49076e1a6785cc7c99e0.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fJ_JG6JfNsY/R8qdtWC-KrI/AAAAAAAAACs/4ju16le5gvA/s400/photo_06.jpg

And Omega Sentinel is INDIAN. Not all people brown people are the same, sheesh. :wink:

That JonoGuy

05-24-2009, 03:42 PM

some of those pics are not by joe mad, i think by the artist who copied his style (roger cruz i think?)

Actually, they are all by Joe Mad. The first and the last two are from the Phalanx Covenant, and the others are from Uncanny X-Men 325. All of which were drawn by Joe Mad.

SayOcean

05-24-2009, 03:45 PM

She's Algerian and French, and a solid actress what could possibly be more correct than that?

http://www.ecranlarge.com/upload/wiki/article/small_18464.jpg

http://a449.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/29/l_9932baa763ab49076e1a6785cc7c99e0.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fJ_JG6JfNsY/R8qdtWC-KrI/AAAAAAAAACs/4ju16le5gvA/s400/photo_06.jpg

And Omega Sentinel is INDIAN. Not all people brown people are the same, sheesh. :wink:cause she doesnt look like M....she looks a lil too light....unless you were talking about the current white washed version of M in Xfactor....she'll be prefect for that but seriously no one can beat Sydney in the M department

Slung

05-24-2009, 03:52 PM

cause she doesnt look like M....she looks a lil too light....unless you were talking about the current white washed version of M in Xfactor....she'll be prefect for that but seriously no one can beat Sydney in the M department

Is Sydney Algerian? North African? Leila actually IS the ethnicity of Monet. There is no guess work here. And the middle picture shows that in certain seasons, Leila is quite dark. Just like Monet seems to get darker with the seasons. Its perfect.

Oh, and Leila doesn't look much lighter than Sydney's pic you posted in two of the three pics I posted.

That JonoGuy

05-24-2009, 04:08 PM

Lets not retread this tired old Monet debate. It really serves no purpose other than taking up valuable Monet appreciation space.

Slung

05-24-2009, 04:35 PM

Lets not retread this tired old Monet debate. It really serves no purpose other than taking up valuable Monet appreciation space.

True true true. Good point!

Free-Man

05-24-2009, 04:48 PM

True true true. Good point!

Exactly. We all know she's black white and Algerian! Now let's all shut up and look at her!

Free-Man

05-24-2009, 05:55 PM

i always saw naiomi campbell as monet.

Monet is like 22 years old.

Justin K.

05-24-2009, 08:09 PM

i always saw naiomi campbell as monet.

LOL, no thanks...

SayOcean

05-24-2009, 08:38 PM

Is Sydney Algerian? North African? Leila actually IS the ethnicity of Monet. There is no guess work here. And the middle picture shows that in certain seasons, Leila is quite dark. Just like Monet seems to get darker with the seasons. Its perfect.

Oh, and Leila doesn't look much lighter than Sydney's pic you posted in two of the three pics I posted.no but sydney is biracial....just like M, and just cause they have the same racial background doesnt make them look like each other......out of the my friends who are around me now 3 out of the 5 thought M was black when i showed them scans of her first apperance.....the rest thought she was white.....so i guess its not such big stretch......okay im done

ZNOP

05-24-2009, 09:23 PM

Exactly. We all know she's black white and Algerian!

Is that a fact? Do you have scans of both her parents? Or perhaps, you can just tell me what issue(s) I can find both her folks in. Thanks

Justin K.

05-24-2009, 11:23 PM

okay im done

Good, there's more to M than racial debate.

ZNOP

05-25-2009, 03:26 PM

Good, there's more to M than racial debate.

Perhaps that's true... But, due to the lack of depth that Monet's character has developed over the years -- like the majority of "Generation X" What else is there to talk about but her ethnicity? Personally I, find it strange and yet, oh so compelling to contemplate why is it that we even bother to make the distinction between mixed racial and ethnic backgrounds only when it comes to being any percentage "Black" African decent? Storm was Simply "Black" until the "She has blue eyes" thing became an issue. Bishop was simply black until Gateway being Australian became part of his history. Now, it's Monet's turn. For the record "Black" is not a race, ethnicity, or culture... and, neither is "White" etc...

By definition color is the visual perceptual property corresponding in humans to the categories called red, yellow, blue and others. Color derives from the spectrum of light (distribution of light energy versus wavelength) interacting in the eye with the spectral sensitivities of the light receptors.

Free-Man

05-25-2009, 03:38 PM

Is that a fact? Do you have scans of both her parents? Or perhaps, you can just tell me what issue(s) I can find both her folks in. Thanks

Her dead mother was Algerian. Her dad was white in his first appearance, but was retconned as being black in all of his subsequent appearances. Until someone says something different, I'm assuming she has a north african mother and a mulatto father.

Perfection/Emma 2

05-25-2009, 06:34 PM

Justin K.

05-25-2009, 07:04 PM

Has Monet gotten to any fights for it's been a while for I only know of her She Hulk fight and against that guy in Paris. Also did she and and Siryn ever go toe to toe?

Proud to be a traitor:evilsmile:

The Siryn fight is in July.
She's been in plenty of fights in Generation X and the X-Corps.
During Secret Invasion, her and X-Factor took on Skrull Longshot
and M also helped fight the Darwin clones (Project Karma)

SayOcean

05-25-2009, 07:22 PM

Perhaps that's true... But, due to the lack of depth that Monet's character has developed over the years -- like the majority of "Generation X" What else is there to talk about but her ethnicity? Personally I, find it strange and yet, oh so compelling to contemplate why is it that we even bother to make the distinction between mixed racial and ethnic backgrounds only when it comes to being any percentage "Black" African decent? Storm was Simply "Black" until the "She has blue eyes" thing became an issue. Bishop was simply black until Gateway being Australian became part of his history. Now, it's Monet's turn. For the record "Black" is not a race, ethnicity, or culture... and, neither is "White" etc...

yeah I for one, dont know that much about M now that shes in XFACTOR I have no idea who she is....except the fact atht she feels sucidal about being Penance....it seems like a lot of posters just have a problem with her having darker skinned or being recognizied as a african american (if you were to look at her in her first appearances)

ZNOP

05-25-2009, 08:44 PM

Her dead mother was Algerian. Her dad was white in his first appearance, but was retconned as being black in all of his subsequent appearances. Until someone says something different, I'm assuming she has a north african mother and a mulatto father.

So, you'll compromise and say that Monet's father is "Mulatto" and not "Black" because you don't agree with the retcon? And, even though we've never seen Monet's mother you assume because canon-logically she is from "Algeria" she is what? Black?

I wonder why it's only the "Black(Brown)/White" biracial people who seem to have a special connotation applied to their being??? What about the Red and Yellow humans? What derogatory term is applied to those biracial people

SayOcean

05-25-2009, 09:11 PM

So, you'll compromise and say that Monet's father is "Mulatto" and not "Black" because you don't agree with the retcon? And, even though we've never seen Monet's mother you assume because canon-logically she is from "Algeria" she is what? Black?

I wonder why it's only the "Black(Brown)/White" biracial people who seem to have a special connotation applied to their being??? What about the Red and Yellow humans? What derogatory term is applied to those biracial peoplewell i assumed she was black because she was colored darker in her first apperances.....and no one is saying that biracial is exclusivly black/white person......but where Im From its rare to come across a person of white and asian background who claimed they were both, they either looked white and claimed it, or they looked asian and claimed....not that ive never met someone who claimed both their parents heritage....if they were not black(or brown) and white, its just its really rare, and im sorry if it seems like thats all i talk about when it comes to M, but its important to some of us and i probably wont stop talking about....you can ignore me if you want....

Perfection/Emma 2

05-25-2009, 11:01 PM

The Siryn fight is in July.
She's been in plenty of fights in Generation X and the X-Corps.
During Secret Invasion, her and X-Factor took on Skrull Longshot
and M also helped fight the Darwin clones (Project Karma)

Thanks for the heads up Justin and if you wouldn't mind answering "I know I should be asking the on the X-Men questions topic", but who did Monet fight during her X-Corp days?

Proud to be a traitor:evilsmile:

Vanish

05-25-2009, 11:20 PM

I totally forgot who she fought during X-Corp (all I remember is her doing more rescue type stuff), but I really loved Monet in that arc. So confident, so full of herself.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/479138-monet3_super.jpghttp://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/479154-monet4_super.jpghttp://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/479140-monet5_super.jpg

Perfection/Emma 2

05-25-2009, 11:27 PM

Oh thanks Vanish and she worked with Angel I see, cool

Proud to be a traitor:evilsmile:

ZNOP

05-25-2009, 11:39 PM

well i assumed she was black because she was colored darker in her first apperances.....and no one is saying that biracial is exclusivly black/white person......but where Im From its rare to come across a person of white and asian background who claimed they were both, they either looked white and claimed it, or they looked asian and claimed....not that ive never met someone who claimed both their parents heritage....if they were not black(or brown) and white, its just its really rare, and im sorry if it seems like thats all i talk about when it comes to M, but its important to some of us and i probably wont stop talking about....you can ignore me if you want....

First, I don't ignore my fellow posters... Unless they prove to be obnoxious, disgusting, and or just plain stupid. You do not fit the profile:wink:

"Uncanny X-Men #316" Monet's first appearance -- I said it's about time Marvel introduced another Black Mutant. I, took her dark complexion to be that of “African” decent and of course she is. But, I think you misunderstood my point. You are correct in your analysis that being biracial is not exclusively a black/white (African/European) phenomenon however the term “Mulatto” is... That being said there are many who would take the time to point out that because of her ancestry She is neither black nor white to which I would say... “If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... It's a duck!” Monet's skin color -- by today's definition is what makes her “black” in the eye of the obvious non-black. Logically, if someone were to ask me to state “Charlize Theron's,” nationally – even though I know she was born in Africa I would still hesitate in saying she was African because visually she is “White.” Monet was born in Sarajevo, Bosnia (Europe) and, if you were to describe her starting with that bit of information only, the first image that would come my mind would be that of a white women -- until the rest of the blanks were filled in, that being her mother was "Algerian" and her father was "Moroccan" After that -- I would come to the conclusion that she was biracial -- not Mulatto.

Now, as for people of European/Asian ancestry...

http://www.colorq.org/PetSins/article.asp?y=2002&m=11&x=11_5

http://www.colorq.org/

Justin K.

05-25-2009, 11:40 PM

When you mentioned M fighting that guy in Paris, she didn't actually fight him, but crucified him.
Basically, when she went to Paris, she fought the law and the law won
(She's no longer allowed in Paris according to Val Cooper)
She and Siryn escaped unharmed, but her father is not too proud.

That JonoGuy

05-26-2009, 12:03 AM

(She's no longer allowed in Paris according to Val Cooper)

That's probably for the best. She does have a tendency to leave a trail of mayhem behind.

That JonoGuy

05-26-2009, 12:10 AM

M's first appearance during the Phalanx Covenant.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7524/96863994.png

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8097/55280148.png

I wonder how things would have differed if it was the "real" M that had been taken by the Phalanx. I wonder if the phalanx would have still been unable to assimilate her. Since M was able to magically switch places with the twins, i wonder if it is something with the St. Croix DNA, and not just something that was singular to the twins.

ZNOP

05-26-2009, 12:26 AM

I wonder how things would have differed if it was the "real" M that had been taken by the Phalanx. I wonder if the phalanx would have still been unable to assimilate her.

Good question... I'd say yes.

Since M was able to magically switch places with the twins, i wonder if it is something with the St. Croix DNA, and not just something that was singular to the twins.

What did magic have to do with anything? Monet and all her siblings are/were able to merge into different combinations with different powers.

That JonoGuy

05-26-2009, 12:29 AM

Good question... I'd say yes.

What did magic have to do with anything? Monet and all her siblings are/were able to merge into different combinations with different powers.

I was being sarcastic. I don't remember their merging powers ever really being explained, hence the magic.

Bolebeau

05-26-2009, 12:40 AM

I wonder how things would have differed if it was the "real" M that had been taken by the Phalanx. I wonder if the phalanx would have still been unable to assimilate her.

Weren't the Phalanx pretty much unable to assimilate mutants at all? Paige is the only one I remember being infected, and that was only her outer layer that Creed tore off her. I remember the whole point of the X-Men's abduction being that they were trying to figure out a way to assimilate mutants.

That JonoGuy

05-26-2009, 12:47 AM

Weren't the Phalanx pretty much unable to assimilate mutants at all? Paige is the only one I remember being infected, and that was only her outer layer that Creed tore off her. I remember the whole point of the X-Men's abduction being that they were trying to figure out a way to assimilate mutants.

You might be right. I think i just remembered wrong. They were not able to scans her mind, but all mutants were hard to assimilate.

Justin K.

05-26-2009, 01:07 AM

Whipped this up quickly...

That JonoGuy

05-26-2009, 02:49 AM

Whipped this up quickly...

Looks nice. I edited one (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=8870640&postcount=776) of my earlier ones. The one you thought looked like Jasmine. I think It looks much better now.

Free-Man

05-26-2009, 04:24 AM

First, I don't ignore my fellow posters... Unless they prove to be obnoxious, disgusting, and or just plain stupid. You do not fit the profile:wink:

"Uncanny X-Men #316" Monet's first appearance -- I said it's about time Marvel introduced another Black Mutant. I, took her dark complexion to be that of “African” decent and of course she is. But, I think you misunderstood my point. You are correct in your analysis that being biracial is not exclusively a black/white (African/European) phenomenon however the term “Mulatto” is... That being said there are many who would take the time to point out that because of her ancestry She is neither black nor white to which I would say... “If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... It's a duck!” Monet's skin color -- by today's definition is what makes her “black” in the eye of the obvious non-black. Logically, if someone were to ask me to state “Charlize Theron's,” nationally – even though I know she was born in Africa I would still hesitate in saying she was African because visually she is “White.” Monet was born in Sarajevo, Bosnia (Europe) and, if you were to describe her starting with that bit of information only, the first image that would come my mind would be that of a white women -- until the rest of the blanks were filled in, that being her mother was "Algerian" and her father was "Moroccan" After that -- I would come to the conclusion that she was biracial -- not Mulatto.

Now, as for people of European/Asian ancestry...

http://www.colorq.org/PetSins/article.asp?y=2002&m=11&x=11_5

http://www.colorq.org/

Wouldn't her mother being algerian make her Berber? I'm pretty sure that her black heritage was meant to have come from her father, not the mom.

ZNOP

05-26-2009, 09:42 AM

Wouldn't her mother being algerian make her Berber? I'm pretty sure that her black heritage was meant to have come from her father, not the mom.

Berber? Yes, I would agree with that observation. Berbers are people of color. And, more over still, while it's true that "Berber" skin color ranges from black to white, (This statement, is the point I, am trying to make.) is due to migration and human reproduction -- which is the factor that keeps the human species from sputtering out -- the migration pattern -- east to west (the planet spins from east to west does it not?) proves that identity based on skin color is a misnomer. I proffer that being of color -- black, brown, tan, yellow, red, and white... (Yes, White is a color!) has nothing to do with race and or ethnicity at all and, more to do with planetary, and geographical location. Truthfully, I spent my sleep time this morning/yesterday doing intensive research to make this topic a more valid discussion in reference to Monet's ancestry. Culture and tradition IMHO is what makes us unique.

In closing... Any human, of any color, can breed together, learn any language, preform the same task(s) within reason, and die the same death.

Superiority/Inferiority -- implied or otherwise based on skin color -- comics or reality is a a lame attempt to say I am better than you.

M (Monet Yvette Clarisse Maria Therese St. Croix):
Species: Human Mutant

"Nuff, said!

Complex

05-26-2009, 11:47 AM

I don't know if I commented on this choice before, but I am really starting to like this pick. I did a bit is research earlier, and it seems she is quite an actress too. I could definitely see her in the role of M.http://b1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01252/18/02/1252372081_l.jpg

Thats a good choice for Monet, since she Leila Bekht has the same ethnic

That JonoGuy

05-26-2009, 02:52 PM

I'm a bit disappointed that Valentine De Landro won't be drawing Dirty, Sexy, Monet. Marco Santucci is good, but his Monet just doesn't do it for me.

Here are some more M avatars I made.

Perfection/Emma 2

05-26-2009, 03:05 PM

Just had to say it, who wants to see Monet versus Emma in a real fight?

Proiud to be a traitor:evilsmile:

Free-Man

05-26-2009, 03:45 PM

Just had to say it, who wants to see Monet versus Emma in a real fight?

Proiud to be a traitor:evilsmile:

They both have highly powerful mental abilities, so it'd come down to a fist fight. Despite Emma's diamond skin, M has super strength, super speed, and flight. Within a matter of seconds, she'd have Emma bound and gagged in Mastermind's evil bondage gear, which apparently is her only weakness. :wink:

Justin K.

05-26-2009, 04:21 PM

Just had to say it, who wants to see Monet versus Emma in a real fight?

Proiud to be a traitor:evilsmile:

Reminds me of a thread a made a while back...
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=233637
Same topic though...

Vanish

05-26-2009, 07:38 PM

I'm a bit disappointed that Valentine De Landro won't be drawing Dirty, Sexy, Monet. Marco Santucci is good, but his Monet just doesn't do it for me.

Here are some more M avatars I made.

WHAT???

I'm super disappointed. I agree, his Monet is...skeezy looking.

This is where my lead superhero David Yardin should've stepped in and saved the day...

That JonoGuy

05-26-2009, 07:54 PM

This is where my lead superhero David Yardin should've stepped in and saved the day...

David Yardin draws one good looking M. Heck, he draws the whole team superbly well. They really need to get him to do more than just the covers. I'd settle for a single issue fill-in.

SayOcean

05-26-2009, 09:32 PM

First, I don't ignore my fellow posters... Unless they prove to be obnoxious, disgusting, and or just plain stupid. You do not fit the profile:wink: lol really wow thanks ZNOP

"Uncanny X-Men #316" Monet's first appearance -- I said it's about time Marvel introduced another Black Mutant. I, took her dark complexion to be that of “African” decent and of course she is. But, I think you misunderstood my point. You are correct in your analysis that being biracial is not exclusively a black/white (African/European) phenomenon however the term “Mulatto” is... That being said there are many who would take the time to point out that because of her ancestry She is neither black nor white to which I would say... “If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... It's a duck!” Monet's skin color -- by today's definition is what makes her “black” in the eye of the obvious non-black. Logically, if someone were to ask me to state “Charlize Theron's,” nationally – even though I know she was born in Africa I would still hesitate in saying she was African because visually she is “White.” Monet was born in Sarajevo, Bosnia (Europe) and, if you were to describe her starting with that bit of information only, the first image that would come my mind would be that of a white women -- until the rest of the blanks were filled in, that being her mother was "Algerian" and her father was "Moroccan" After that -- I would come to the conclusion that she was biracial -- not Mulatto.

Now, as for people of European/Asian ancestry...

http://www.colorq.org/PetSins/article.asp?y=2002&m=11&x=11_5

http://www.colorq.org/really good explaination....although i hate using the term mulatto as it was used as a slur against me when i was yonger growing up in alabama.....but your links to the ideas of race when it comes to asian/white pairs is very intersesting

ZNOP

05-27-2009, 08:14 AM

Here are some more M avatars I made.

Do you think you can help me resize of my avatar? I would be greatly appreciative:smile:

That JonoGuy

05-27-2009, 01:55 PM

Do you think you can help me resize of my avatar? I would be greatly appreciative:smile:

I can try. Here is what I came up with. I had to edit it a bit. Is this okay?

ZNOP

05-27-2009, 04:01 PM

I can try. Here is what I came up with. I had to edit it a bit. Is this okay?

I see an attachment... But, I can't access it.

That JonoGuy

05-27-2009, 04:06 PM

I see an attachment... But, I can't access it.

Just right click it and go to save image as.

Free-Man

05-27-2009, 06:02 PM

Ya know the thing I love the most about Monet? HER MOUTH! She's like a tan Emma Frost from back when she was snappy and bitchy.
I find it funny that Siryn is the one who always ends up getting gagged, when it's quite obvious that M is the one with the deadly mouth!:wink:

That JonoGuy

06-01-2009, 03:23 PM

Since I've made quite a few M avatars and they are scattered across the thread, i thought I would bring them all together in one post.

One (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=8880350&postcount=845) Two (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=8748444&postcount=678) Three (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=8943460&postcount=887) Four (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=8990526&postcount=953) Five (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=8943233&postcount=881) Six (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=8870640&postcount=776) Seven (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=8681370&postcount=626) Eight (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=8467000&postcount=523) Nine (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=8353116&postcount=512)

There may be some newer ones in the mix, as i never seem to know when to leave things well enough alone.

Plus, here are some new ones.

Free-Man

06-01-2009, 03:49 PM

There is one thing never understood about M. Does she not miss her old Gen X teammates? I mean, she may have a pic or two of Ev somewhere in her room, but how come she never tries to get together with Jono or Paige? I know she doesn't like Emma, but she seemed to at least be on speaking terms with the others.

That JonoGuy

06-01-2009, 03:54 PM

I think she does miss her old teammates. I just don't think she is going to go out of her way to catch up with them. I think it is partly to do with how she wants others to view her: as uncaring and above them. If she were to run across them i think she would probably still try to come across that way, but we all know she is a big ole softy.

Free-Man

06-01-2009, 04:04 PM

The think she does miss her old teammates. I just don't think she is going to go out of her way to catch up with them. I think it is partly to do with how she wants others to view her: as uncaring and above them. If she were to run across them i think she would probably still try to come across that way, but we all know she is a big ole softy.

Probably right. I bet she screens all her incoming calls, and doesn't pick up if it's a former Gen-Xer.
One of the things that I was annoyed about in the current X-Factor book was the character of the Isolationist. How is PAD gonna make a character with the exact same powers as Ev, and then reveal it isn't him?

That JonoGuy

06-02-2009, 08:05 PM

I totally forgot who she fought during X-Corp (all I remember is her doing more rescue type stuff), but I really loved Monet in that arc. So confident, so full of herself.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/479154-monet4_super.jpg

Joe Casey portrayed her very well for that arc. Aaron Lopresti did a fantastic job drawing her as well. It was certainly much better than the last time he had a hand at drawing her during Hama's Gen X.

Faded

06-03-2009, 01:32 AM

Joe Casey portrayed her very well for that arc. Aaron Lopresti did a fantastic job drawing her as well. It was certainly much better than the last time he had a hand at drawing her during Hama's Gen X.

Yeah, I was happier with Lopestri's art than I have been in a lot of his other work (like Ms. Marvel).

I even really liked Austen's take on her (though he was supposedly to have said he was going to kill her off instead of Skin, and well...I'm just having none of that).

Justin K.

06-03-2009, 01:52 AM

Faded, I love your sig.

Faded

06-03-2009, 02:03 AM

Faded, I love your sig.

Thanksies!

I'm just overflowing with the love today, especially for our ladies and my special home girl that no one knows or likes ;_; (AFFINITY SAD FACE).

Justin K.

06-03-2009, 02:10 AM

Thanksies!

I'm just overflowing with the love today, especially for our ladies and my special home girl that no one knows or likes ;_; (AFFINITY SAD FACE).

Most of my faves are female characters as well.
I liked Risque, she was exotic. Off panel death = fail
Look very forward to this (http://comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/marvelcomics/200907/153_X_FACTOR_46.jpg) though.
How do you feel about that cover?

Free-Man

06-03-2009, 04:04 AM

coconutphone

06-03-2009, 07:26 AM

Re-read Gen X #1 the other day. I still remember how much I enjoyed this snooty and witty version of Monet that we relaly didn't see in the Phalanx x-over where she was introduced.

"Climbing trees Monet? Isn't that like totallly 2nd Grade?"

"Being the authority on all things immature I'll have to tke your word on that Jubilation."

ZING!

blinkinrogue

06-03-2009, 08:35 AM

why isnt M in marvel divas or models??????? she is more diva-ish and modelish than half of the members combined :biggrin:

Justin K.

06-03-2009, 11:12 AM

I love how M is looking straight into her cleavage.

Who can resist Siryn's cleavage?

That JonoGuy

06-06-2009, 10:18 PM

why isnt M in marvel divas or models??????? she is more diva-ish and modelish than half of the members combined :biggrin:

I'd rather see Monet in Models, Inc. than in Marvel Divas. That's not to say she wouldn't be a diva in Models. It seems such a waste to have shown that M has done some modeling and not give a little more insight into it.

Bring on the photo shoot.

Faded

06-06-2009, 11:58 PM

Most of my faves are female characters as well.
I liked Risque, she was exotic. Off panel death = fail
Look very forward to this (http://comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/marvelcomics/200907/153_X_FACTOR_46.jpg) though.
How do you feel about that cover?

OMG! Total sex. I really think its mind control or someone else disguised as either Monet or Siryn; either way I'm looking forward to them front-and-center.

AND RISQUE WAS AMAZING. I want her to return and be the third in the M/Sy clique. Like Monet, Risque shares similar taste in men with Siryn!

I'd rather see Monet in Models, Inc. than in Marvel Divas. That's not to say she wouldn't be a diva in Models. It seems such a waste to have shown that M has done some modeling and not give a little more insight into it.

Bring on the photo shoot.

YES.

That JonoGuy

06-07-2009, 12:02 AM

AND RISQUE WAS AMAZING. I want her to return and be the third in the M/Sy clique. Like Monet, Risque shares similar taste in men with Siryn!

All that drama just waiting to happen. Sounds good to me. :biggrin:

Justin K.

06-07-2009, 12:04 AM

OMG! Total sex. I really think its mind control or someone else disguised as either Monet or Siryn; either way I'm looking forward to them front-and-center.

AND RISQUE WAS AMAZING. I want her to return and be the third in the M/Sy clique. Like Monet, Risque shares similar taste in men with Siryn!

Front and center without any Madrox-Layla future stuff

I liked Risque's entrance when she first appeared and her cleopatra bangs
exotic, plus she seemed like a bad-girl.

all 3 of them in a fight would be all kinds of hot.

Wind-Breaker

06-07-2009, 12:19 AM

why isnt M in marvel divas or models??????? she is more diva-ish and modelish than half of the members combined :biggrin:

Well last time I checked the Models Inc mini was canceled. I pre-ordered it at my LCS and it was canceled with no plans of re-solicits.

Faded

06-07-2009, 12:55 AM

All that drama just waiting to happen. Sounds good to me. :biggrin:

Yay!
Support!

Someone give me an ugly Hawaiian shirt so I can negotiate with PAD!

Front and center without any Madrox-Layla future stuff

I liked Risque's entrance when she first appeared and her cleopatra bangs
exotic, plus she seemed like a bad-girl.

all 3 of them in a fight would be all kinds of hot.

I'm glad that you, a fellow X-Factor fan, is not feeling the whole future stuff either. Layla is proving to not be as much of a breakout presence as she once was and Ruby is the second worst of the Scott's children. I'm just not feeling it.

Anywho! Yeah, I thought about it and instead of Risque reuniting with Warpath, I think it would be much more interesting to see her pop up and meddle in Siryn's life again (besides, I'd imagine Jimmy is pretty hard to get a hold of these days what with a SECRET double-life and all).

I've seen people describe Risque as a female Gambit or as an older Jubilee so I wonder how Monet would feel about her.

Justin K.

06-07-2009, 01:16 AM

I'm glad that you, a fellow X-Factor fan, is not feeling the whole future stuff either. Layla is proving to not be as much of a breakout presence as she once was and Ruby is the second worst of the Scott's children. I'm just not feeling it.

Anywho! Yeah, I thought about it and instead of Risque reuniting with Warpath, I think it would be much more interesting to see her pop up and meddle in Siryn's life again (besides, I'd imagine Jimmy is pretty hard to get a hold of these days what with a SECRET double-life and all).

I've seen people describe Risque as a female Gambit or as an older Jubilee so I wonder how Monet would feel about her.

I'm not feeling the whole Ruby thing. Other people say she's awesome and cool, but she is just a mix of scott and emma, emma's diamond and blonde hair, scott's personality, and optic powers. Though she has been around for a short time... Child Layla is the Layla I will always cherish. Not a fan of future stories anyways, it distorts timelines and causes un-necessary speculation, timelines that are forgotten, and all that other stuff.

I love PAD's writing, and I hope Dirty, Sexy Monet really lives up to its name and shows us M doing what she does best, being dirty and sexy, lol. Plus those previews with her looked hot.

Maybe Risque re-appearing again could spark a X-Factor/X-Force team-up
One can hope, lol

Justin K.

06-07-2009, 01:41 AM

EDIT: DAMN! thread hiccup!!!!

That JonoGuy

06-07-2009, 07:11 PM

Monet ready to take on Emplate with the rest of Generation X.

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9293/81575288.png

Justin K.

06-08-2009, 01:57 AM

I'd rather see Monet in Models, Inc. than in Marvel Divas. That's not to say she wouldn't be a diva in Models. It seems such a waste to have shown that M has done some modeling and not give a little more insight into it.

Bring on the photo shoot.

She did make the cover once before

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/MMagazine.jpg

Pixie_Solanas

06-08-2009, 10:30 AM

Monet ready to take on Emplate with the rest of Generation X.

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9293/81575288.png

And Jubilee, dyking it up with her off-the-rack Land's End clothes.

blinkinrogue

06-08-2009, 12:11 PM

ahhhh classic gen x. me loves

Free-Man

06-08-2009, 12:25 PM

Well last time I checked the Models Inc mini was canceled. I pre-ordered it at my LCS and it was canceled with no plans of re-solicits.

I actually chatted with Paul Tobin about this. It wasn't canceled, they had to rewrite the entire series because at the last moment, Quesada ordered him to remove Mary Jane and tie the story into the Hellcat mini.

yanapryde

06-08-2009, 02:24 PM

Error Error Error

That JonoGuy

06-08-2009, 02:33 PM

I actually chatted with Paul Tobin about this. It wasn't canceled, they had to rewrite the entire series because at the last moment, Quesada ordered him to remove Mary Jane and tie the story into the Hellcat mini.

That's good to know. Certainly Hellcat fans will be pleased to hear that.

She did make the cover once before

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/MMagazine.jpg

That is what I was referring to when I said M has done some modeling. I'd like to see it brought up and expanded upon. Maybe tell how she got got "discovered" and why she left. I'm sure PAD could get a compelling story in there somewhere.

yanapryde

06-08-2009, 02:41 PM

So I tried to post this earlier, but for some reason it wouldn't appear.
My handle was listed as the last poster, and yet still my post is missing.
So here I am trying again.

I wanted to share a favorite Monet moment.
I believe, after researching, that it occurred in Uncanny X-Men, where Monet was gracious enough to point out to Stacy X, that she was merely a mutant prostitute hitching a ride with the X-Men.....and not a hero. Or something to that effect.
I love love loved it.

Faded

06-08-2009, 02:45 PM

Error Error Error

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29735/687862-monet16_super.jpg

Loved this, too. I actually quite liked Austen's first two arcs.

That's good to know. Certainly Hellcat fans will be pleased to hear that.

That is what I was referring to when I said M has done some modeling. I'd like to see it brought up and expanded upon. Maybe tell how she got got "discovered" and why she left. I'm sure PAD could get a compelling story in there somewhere.

Sook needs to come in an draw an anniversary issue.

Its a crime we didn't get more gorgeous Monet, devilish handsome Madrox, and shaggy but presentable Rictor.

yanapryde

06-08-2009, 02:53 PM

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29735/687862-monet16_super.jpg

Loved this, too. I actually quite liked Austen's first two arcs.

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Ah fantastic! Thank you kindly!
I loved that exchange so much. The execution of the art was fantastic as well.
The gesturing made by Monet; waving her hand to point out the X-Men and then do the same pointing at her....Oh its just priceless.

blinkinrogue

06-09-2009, 11:07 AM

when is dirty sexy monet coming out again?

Daniel Mengsk

06-09-2009, 11:10 AM

when is dirty sexy monet coming out again?

EDIT: Never mind

coconutphone

06-09-2009, 11:26 AM

This week! :D

blinkinrogue

06-09-2009, 11:34 AM

^ thanks! P. david is posting in the xfactor thread hope he posts here too (or if he did, i cant seem to remember lols).

mr. david, are M's gazillion abilities all psionic? :biggrin:

That JonoGuy

06-09-2009, 03:45 PM

I never cared for Austen's portrayal of her. I like that he had her put Stacy in her place, but I thought the scene seemed to lack some real Monet wit.

elixir86

06-10-2009, 03:50 AM

HI GUYS!
I'M A MONET FAN LIKE U AND IWRITE BECAUSE I NEED UR HELP....BETTER...MONET NEEDS OUR HELP!!!!!!

I DON'T KNIOW IF SOMEONE OF U KNOW uncannyxmen.net ; ON THERE THERE A LITTLE GAME CALLED MARVEL VOTING THING THAT WILL LAST FOREVER GOING ON SINCE YEARS.

WELL THE RULES ARE REALLY SIMPLE: EVERY USER CAN VOTE ONLY ONCE PER DAY, ADDING A POINT TO THE FAVOURITE CHARACTER AND SUBTRACTING ONE FROM THE LESS LIKED ONE.

AFTER YEARS AND YEARS ONLY 6 CHARACTER REMAINED "ALIVE":

Cyclops 360
Doctor Doom 1015
M 729
Shadowcat 557
Silver Surfer 563
Storm 1219

AS YOU CAN SEE MONET IT 3rd BUT HER ENEMIES ARE RALLING AGAINST HER! WE NEED YOUR HELP TO RAISE HER POINTS, OR SHE WE'LL BE ELIMINATED!!!
SO please COME ON THERE, SUBSCRIVE TO THE FORUM AND VOTE DAILY FOR OUR BELOVED MONET!
help usssssssssssssss!!!!!!

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5598

That JonoGuy

06-10-2009, 04:04 PM

Ages Of Apocalypse Monet

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2015/aoamonet.png

Has Monet been involved in any crossover where she WASN'T just a background character. Well, besides her debut in PC.

Puunk

06-10-2009, 05:27 PM

when is dirty sexy monet coming out again?

It came out today - Monet was amazing. Amazing.

That JonoGuy

06-13-2009, 03:25 PM

I just reread X-Men: The End last night. I have to say i really liked how Claremont handled her character. Unfortunately, I never got around to getting Book 3. How did you like her portrayal?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/384736-30848-m_super.jpg

On the art front, I thought Sean Chen did a good job with her look. I could have done without her wearing her Gen X uniform, but considering most of the character designs weren't that great maybe it was a good idea to stick with something more familiar.