Monet St. Croix Appreciation

[Gene M.]

Well, at least she got over it.
It was a lot easier for her once she accepted his closet homosexuality. Seriously. "Power aura" my ass.

[frog]

I'm thrilled that M's fertile. Unlike some X-characters...

You know, her family does have a history of twins . . .

That could be interesting.

[Swashbuckler]

If she's pregnant with Madrox twins imagine when they start bumping each other in her womb. Suddenly it's triplets, and etc. etc. till M just explodes.

[sinjection]

And to sinjection, unless you can get off that racist shtick (meaning, that M shouldn't be with a white guy), I'm not responding to any more of your posts in this thread.

Then you might as well stop responding now.

I believe M should have been allowed to be successful in her pursuit of Synch rather than be in the deplorable, depraved circumstance she finds herself at this present time.

There are too few same race relationships between black characters in the MU. That's not my "shtick", that's my honest opinion. I stand by it firmly.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[worstblogever]

If she's pregnant with Madrox twins imagine when they start bumping each other in her womb. Suddenly it's triplets, and etc. etc. till M just explodes.

That is the grossest and most original visual I've had in awhile, Swash. I salute you. Still, I hope she delivers healthy babies, and they have her nose. (Don't ask me why, I like the way M's nose is rendered...)

[worstblogever]

It was a lot easier for her once she accepted his closet homosexuality. Seriously. "Power aura" my ass.

Wasn't it a rainbow power aura, at that when they drew it? Damn... I never caught that before.

[Gene M.]

Wasn't it a rainbow power aura, at that when they drew it? Damn... I never caught that before.
He was more fabulous than Dazzler's loose fitting halter-top prison uniform.

Oh, and M kicks butt.

[worstblogever]

He was more fabulous than Dazzler's loose fitting halter-top prison uniform.

Oh, and M kicks butt.

Thanks for staying on topic. Yeah, M and Madrox seems like it's going to be a relationship that will keep Jamie on his toes if it continues in any aspect. Although, SPOILERS Since apparently X-Factor #25's actions will put him in a coma, I don't know if he'd be able to be there for M if she is pregnant.

[sinjection]

That's because white writers don't know how to write black characters! In order for her feelings to be truly explored she should move to Wakanda and be with some 80 year old black character, because they're both black, - make it 20 year old and you'll have my vote ;) and even though they have never met, and the reasons are totally asinine, it should just be.

Which could be preferrable than being impregnated by the duplicate of some white male freak of a mutant who didn't even know his dupe was doing the deed with M in the first place.

It's kill the black male character, or don't create any black male characters at all, and hook up the black female characters and female characters of color with white male characters. It's been that way for years and years.


____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[Dagger]

Which M do you guys prefer? The original who were the twins merged together with the snark, the Penance turned M with slightly less witty snark, or the Peter David written super-model snarky M???

[worstblogever]

Which M do you guys prefer? The original who were the twins merged together with the snark, the Penance turned M with slightly less witty snark, or the Peter David written super-model snarky M???

Man, the first one was good... so good... but David's is pretty awesome, too. Definitely not the second... The first one would've been better if it wasn't for the reveal by Larry Hama about the twins, and there were only two to pick from.

I guess I choose Peter David's version, just for kicking *ss, taking names, and letting people know how damned smooth she really is.

[Gene M.]

Which M do you guys prefer? The original who were the twins merged together with the snark, the Penance turned M with slightly less witty snark, or the Peter David written super-model snarky M???
I'll say the merged twins version, because that M was awesome. My brain skips over the Hama reveal like it never happened.

[Deus ex Chris]

Which M do you guys prefer? The original who were the twins merged together with the snark, the Penance turned M with slightly less witty snark, or the Peter David written super-model snarky M???
Definitely the current M. I have an aversion to Generation X.

[Dagger]

Man, the first one was good... so good... but David's is pretty awesome, too. Definitely not the second... The first one would've been better if it wasn't for the reveal by Larry Hama about the twins, and there were only two to pick from.

I guess I choose Peter David's version, just for kicking *ss, taking names, and letting people know how damned smooth she really is.
My favorite was the first. I thought she was an awesomely unique character! Two young girls merge together and make this incredibly confident, powerful young woman who also happens to go into catatonic stupors because one of the girls has that mental disorder that I can't think of it's name right now:/

[Dagger]

Definitely the current M. I have an aversion to Generation X.
BECAUSE YOU HATE ME!!!!

[worstblogever]

My favorite was the first. I thought she was an awesomely unique character! Two young girls merge together and make this incredibly confident, powerful young woman who also happens to go into catatonic stupors because one of the girls has that mental disorder that I can't think of it's name right now:/

I guess it's not that I hate that M was two girls... it's that I dislike that Penance ended up not being what I thought sounded cool... a survivor of war torn Yugoslavia named Yvette.

Then there's the whole Hollow thing in Loners... I dunno. The less said about it the better. The point is, M is awesome, Hollow will be awesome. Let's just hope that M was forced to impersonate Hollow and that was it.

[Deus ex Chris]

BECAUSE YOU HATE ME!!!!
It's true! I can't help myself!

Wanna webcam later?

[Dagger]

It's true! I can't help myself!

Wanna webcam later?
Why??? All I ever did wrong was love the 90's!!!!

And M is the best female in any X-book going right now!

Sounds great! I'll be there with bells on...and that's it.

[Faded]

M rocks. She should sleep with Siryn. They're my favorite couple.

Haha, that'd be kinda cute. I can see M right now just needing someone to be there for her and I wouldn't entirely rule that out as a possibility.

[Starleafgirl]

Somebody suggested she'd be great on the New X-Force, and I can't disagree. They need a telepath, and a bruiser, and a flier. She's all three. Plus, based off of her trip to Paris with Siryn, we know she won't hesitate to get violent if she's got to.

Not to mention the way she took out the anti-mutant hostage-takers on the subway when she and Jubilee made that trip to New York City? Anyone else thinking M just has very bad luck when it comes to her girls' day outs? :rolleyes:

That's because white writers don't know how to write black characters! In order for her feelings to be truly explored she should move to Wakanda and be with some 80 year old black character, because they're both black, and even though they have never met, and the reasons are totally asinine, it should just be.

LOL! Of course. :D

You know, her family does have a history of twins . . .

That could be interesting.

Ooo, now THAT'S an interesting thought! Oh, let it be twins! :D Of course, if they were twins with Madrox's power... uh oh... Lol. If they managed to make it out of the womb (despite Swashbuckler's suggestion to the otherwise), it'd be nearly impossible to keep track of who's who and who's who's duplicate!

Which M do you guys prefer? The original who were the twins merged together with the snark, the Penance turned M with slightly less witty snark, or the Peter David written super-model snarky M???

Good question. I like the twins' version better; they were obviously playing their sister to be the smartest, coolest girl ever and it showed. When the "real" M showed up, she had a shorter temper, a ruder 'tude, and she wasn't quite as cerebral as the twins led everyone to believe. Of course, this M was dealing with just having come out of the Penance shell (big-time shudder at that storyline, but it's canon now).

Despite liking the twins' version better, I like the real M in Generation X. After seeing the twins portray her for so long, the real M became more interesting just because she was a wild card. No one knew what she was really like, of what she was capable, or what she thought.

I've only read the tiniest bit of M in X-Factor (although I'm going to buy X-Factor #13 and #14 when I can), so all I can say is that I really, really don't like what I've seen so far. Which is to say... the Vanity magazine cover and her dancing around naked in her room listening to music (on her iPod, as I recall?) then going stark raving mad postal when Madrox walks in on her. That doesn't sound like the smart young woman I used to know. That sounds like a young woman in crisis.

My favorite was the first. I thought she was an awesomely unique character! Two young girls merge together and make this incredibly confident, powerful young woman who also happens to go into catatonic stupors because one of the girls has that mental disorder that I can't think of it's name right now:/

Autism. Although, not terribly well-portrayed autism. My best friend at the time (the 90s)'s sister had autism and I didn't really see a connection. But autism's different for everyone.

I guess it's not that I hate that M was two girls... it's that I dislike that Penance ended up not being what I thought sounded cool... a survivor of war torn Yugoslavia named Yvette.

Then there's the whole Hollow thing in Loners... I dunno. The less said about it the better. The point is, M is awesome, Hollow will be awesome. Let's just hope that M was forced to impersonate Hollow and that was it.

I agree (and will add that Loners #6 comes out tomorrow!!)! Although Yvette doesn't sound like a very Albanian (or Serbian, for that matter) name to me. I could be wrong, though. It's possible that Emplate named her, since the early version of the Penance was born the way she is (at least, Scott Lobdell implied this once in a source other than the comics themselves). And if she was born an ultradense, razor-sharp mutant, I'm thinking that didn't bode very well for her mother.

But this isn't a Hollow thread, so yeah. Back to M. :D

[frog]

Autism. Although, not terribly well-portrayed autism. My best friend at the time (the 90s)'s sister had autism and I didn't really see a connection. But autism's different for everyone.



One of my brothers suffered from autism. He was able to function enough to get a Master's in math and teach at Georgia Tech, but he didn't have an easy life at all. It was very hard for him to get along with other people.

I don't believe the writer understood what autism is because Monet didn't act at all like someone who has it.

[Starleafgirl]

One of my brothers suffered from autism. He was able to function enough to get a Master's in math and teach at Georgia Tech, but he didn't have an easy life at all. It was very hard for him to get along with other people.

I don't believe the writer understood what autism is because Monet didn't act at all like someone who has it.

There you go, then. Although you have to remember that "Monet" was more than the sum of her parts and there was Nicole there, too. Althoug, I'll agree that Monet's bouts of "autism" weren't anything at all like someone who has it. It's not outright catatonia, as far as I know.

[frog]

There you go, then. Although you have to remember that "Monet" was more than the sum of her parts and there was Nicole there, too. Althoug, I'll agree that Monet's bouts of "autism" weren't anything at all like someone who has it. It's not outright catatonia, as far as I know.

No, I've never seen a case like that. People with very severe autism will refuse to respond to others but they don't randomly go into catatonic fugues.

I'm afraid that's probably the worst diagnosis Beast ever made!

[Swashbuckler]

I really wish PAD could have had M run into Hollow. I'm really curious as to who she is now. Did M know her before she was put in that body?

[RoguishGurl]

I just had the perfect idea! If M was ever in an X-men movie, Alicia Keys should play her!

http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/D20070415/998_723609565_alicia_keys__12__H003515_L.jpg

http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/.%2F2007%2F11%2F14%2Fpics%2F06a.jpg

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/3363/AliciaKeys_Kambo_5511070_400.jpg

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5135/akeystribeca2007ox6.jpg

[Wind-Breaker]

I just had the perfect idea! If M was ever in an X-men movie, Alicia Keys should play her!

http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/D20070415/998_723609565_alicia_keys__12__H003515_L.jpg

http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/.%2F2007%2F11%2F14%2Fpics%2F06a.jpg

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/3363/AliciaKeys_Kambo_5511070_400.jpg

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5135/akeystribeca2007ox6.jpg

I've always thought that too, from the few stuff she has done on screen, her acting seems strong enough to be able to pull it off. Plus she pull off the "look of perfection" M look. Great casting choice.

[Starleafgirl]

I really wish PAD could have had M run into Hollow. I'm really curious as to who she is now. Did M know her before she was put in that body?

God question. I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this before, but PAD wanted M to run into Hollow. If Loners #6 ends with Hollow somehow being freed up, and someone lets PAD know, he'll probably fit it in. I just hope he reads The Loners first to get some idea of where she's been lately, lol.

Oh, but come to think of it, from Hama's, shudder, "origin" it doesn't look like the two of them knew each other until after M was put in the body.

No, I've never seen a case like that. People with very severe autism will refuse to respond to others but they don't randomly go into catatonic fugues.

I'm afraid that's probably the worst diagnosis Beast ever made!

Right, but to be fair, apparently all the world's best doctors (only the best for Cartier St. Croix's daughters, right? lol.) came to the same conclusion. :D

Oh, and regarding Alicia Keys, I agree. That's a nice choice. :cool: Never thought of it before, but nice.

[Matthew K.]

Oh, and regarding Alicia Keys, I agree. That's a nice choice. :cool:

Right on RG. Apt choice.

[Magneto X]

I dunno.

I just had the perfect idea! If M was ever in an X-men movie, Alicia Keys should play her!

http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/D20070415/998_723609565_alicia_keys__12__H003515_L.jpg

http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/.%2F2007%2F11%2F14%2Fpics%2F06a.jpg




I have a hard time believing Alicia Keys can read my mind.

However:


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/streetcarp645/RosarioDawson1.jpg


http://www.shunn.net/bill/log/img/meme-rosario.jpg

[Matthew K.]

Alicia Keyes has gotten smoking hot lately (did Jessica Abla give her a make-over?)

Rosario's decent too...I liked her in Grindhouse.

[worstblogever]

Damn... Keys vs. Dawson. That's a tough pick. We do know that Rosario isn't above comic books, based off her own. She'd probably get the nod, based off of being in and around the industry more.

[Magneto X]

Damn... Keys vs. Dawson. That's a tough pick. We do know that Rosario isn't above comic books, based off her own. She'd probably get the nod, based off of being in and around the industry more.

It's just that I can see Dawson really hauling off and smacking someone.

[worstblogever]

It's just that I can see Dawson really hauling off and smacking someone.

Have you seen Smokin' Aces? Alicia Keys was no slouch in that. I'm still leaning towards Dawson, but it's close.

[RoguishGurl]

It's just that I can see Dawson really hauling off and smacking someone.

You got a point there. But Keys looks more like M to me. hmm, we should find someone with Alicia's look and Rosario's attitude.

[Matthew K.]

You got a point there. But Keys looks more like M to me. hmm, we should find someone with Alicia's look and Rosario's attitude.
and we shall crown her "my dreamgirl"

[Hi-Fi]

Rosario is beautiful AND a fantastic actress. She gets my vote.

Though Alicia looks more like Monet.

[RoguishGurl]

and we shall crown her "my dreamgirl"

haha. okay, I'll start making the crown.

[Faded]

The most recent addition to the Sugababes (kinda almost) looks like Monet!

http://estb.msn.com/i/8C/69641A75F260146DE9E12F678729FE.jpg

[That JonoGuy]

The most recent addition to the Sugababes (kinda almost) looks like Monet!

http://estb.msn.com/i/8C/69641A75F260146DE9E12F678729FE.jpg

The thought of her never even crossed my mind. She would be perfect. Assuming she can act though.

[That JonoGuy]

One of my brothers suffered from autism. He was able to function enough to get a Master's in math and teach at Georgia Tech, but he didn't have an easy life at all. It was very hard for him to get along with other people.

I don't believe the writer understood what autism is because Monet didn't act at all like someone who has it.

Hasn't it only been recently that the myths about autism have been dispelled. It makes sense that at the time that Scott Lobdell came up with M, he wouldn't be as knowledgeable about the subject as we are now.

[Starleafgirl]

The most recent addition to the Sugababes (kinda almost) looks like Monet!

http://estb.msn.com/i/8C/69641A75F260146DE9E12F678729FE.jpg

She looks exactly what I'd expect from X-Factor's Monet, I think. Now, can she act? ;) And what's her name, for that matter? lol.

Hasn't it only been recently that the myths
about autism have been dispelled. It makes sense that at the time that Scott Lobdell came up with M, he wouldn't be as knowledgeable about the subject as we are now.

Fair enough, but he could have researched it. Otherwise, he might've gone with "suffers from spells of catatonia" or some such. Weirder things have happened in comics...

[That JonoGuy]

She looks exactly what I'd expect from X-Factor's Monet, I think. Now, can she act? ;) And what's her name, for that matter? lol.

Amelle Berrabah

Fair enough, but he could have researched it. Otherwise, he might've gone with "suffers from spells of catatonia" or some such. Weirder things have happened in comics...

Her catatonia probably could have been attributed as a side affect of the twins being joined. Who knows. I do hope we get to see the twins again someday. It would be interesting to see how the autism would be dealt with now. Especially in the hands of Peter David.

[blinkinrogue]

Which M do you guys prefer? The original who were the twins merged together with the snark, the Penance turned M with slightly less witty snark, or the Peter David written super-model snarky M???

Actually the version i liked best was the phalanx covenant M, but she lasted only 4 issues or so issues so.....

I guess the first one bec she was so smart and confident and not "mad" all the time, she was the epitome of being cool, calm, and collected.

SPeaking of hollow/penance, she should have remained an entirely seperte entity.

[RoguishGurl]

The only version of M that I have read is the X-Factor M. So she is my fav.

[Starleafgirl]

Her catatonia probably could have been attributed as a side affect of the twins being joined. Who knows. I do hope we get to see the twins again someday. It would be interesting to see how the autism would be dealt with now. Especially in the hands of Peter David.

That's a good enough explanation for me. :D But yeah, I hope the twins do show up. They've got plenty of mysterious powers that could yet be explored, but I'm interested in seeing the autism -- and the interaction between Monet and her sisters -- handled by PAD.

[Faded]

Ideally, I'd love a mixture of early Gen-X M and current Monet, but my ideal situation isn't really realistic.

So let's just say I'm satisfied, at least. :)

[Xplicit Content]

New to the CBR forums. (What's up, y'all?)

Saw this topic and my eyes lit up. I'm all about appreciating Monet...great character who was taken to a whole new level of greatness, thanks to PAD. I hope she never leaves X-Factor, because at this point, I want him to write her forever. The only thing I will say about the current incarnation of M vs. the GenX M is that I'm not crazy about the enhanced powers. I liked her with the strength/invulnerability, flight, enhanced intellect and marginal borderline psi powers...the full blown psionics seems a little overkill...but M's still one of the best things going in the X-Universe. As for actresses, if M was ever cast anywhere, I'd go with Lauren London. I think she has the cover girl look (she's fine as hell) and the attitude for M.

http://people.freenet.de/dbsradio3/LLKINGMAG-06.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/4117/576541947sx.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1057/1439453800_c209e107ab.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1208/1439453868_7bab2db8dc.jpg

[Post-It]

New to the CBR forums. (What's up, y'all?)

Saw this topic and my eyes lit up. I'm all about appreciating Monet...great character who was taken to a whole new level of greatness, thanks to PAD. I hope she never leaves X-Factor, because at this point, I want him to write her forever. The only thing I will say about the current incarnation of M vs. the GenX M is that I'm not crazy about the enhanced powers. I liked her with the strength/invulnerability, flight, enhanced intellect and marginal borderline psi powers...the full blown psionics seems a little overkill...but M's still one of the best things going in the X-Universe. As for actresses, if M was ever cast anywhere, I'd go with Lauren London. I think she has the cover girl look (she's fine as hell) and the attitude for M.

http://people.freenet.de/dbsradio3/LLKINGMAG-06.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/4117/576541947sx.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1057/1439453800_c209e107ab.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1208/1439453868_7bab2db8dc.jpg

Dont get me wrong she is attractive but I think she looks alot like Lil' Kim which is not a good thing.

I'd personally love for Alicia Keys to play M. I believe one of her many talents is acting and as far as Im concerned Alicia is perfect.

[Xplicit Content]

Whoa, Lil' Kim? I don't see that, heh.

http://celeb.wohoo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/lil-kim-hip-hop-weekly-magazine.jpg

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/6232/LaurenLon_Leste_14434348_400.jpg

[BabeBro]

Why use that pic of Lil' Kim? LOL! She's looked better since then:
http://www.250kb.de/u/071123/j/3701fda7.jpg
http://www.250kb.de/u/071123/j/0c5f2356.jpg
http://www.250kb.de/u/071123/j/18530b8b.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g48/gborders03/awwkim3.jpg
I love Kim, but she could never play Monet.

[BabeBro]

BTW, Monet is my fav after Rogue :D

[hugekent]

I was thinking Monet was Spanish, or Latino. Am I wrong?

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Monet wins the prize of the most bitable X-Princess in history.

[Jackob]

I was thinking Monet was Spanish, or Latino. Am I wrong?

she is french/bosinan(her dad) and algerian(her mother)

[Slung]

Why not pick an actual Algerian actress to play Monet? Somebody should google search and find an atractive one.

The only Algerian actress I have found who has any sort of "name" is this one. But she doesn't quite looke Monet to me. Or does she?

Rachida Brakni:
http://archives.madame.lefigaro.fr/photos/20051222.PHO4578.jpg

[Jackob]

Why not pick an actual Algerian actress to play Monet? Somebody should google search and find an atractive one.

The only Algerian actress I have found who has any sort of "name" is this one. But she doesn't quite looke Monet to me. Or does she?

Rachida Brakni:
http://archives.madame.lefigaro.fr/photos/20051222.PHO4578.jpg

that does look like a good fit

[RoguishGurl]

Why not pick an actual Algerian actress to play Monet? Somebody should google search and find an atractive one.

The only Algerian actress I have found who has any sort of "name" is this one. But she doesn't quite looke Monet to me. Or does she?

Rachida Brakni:
http://archives.madame.lefigaro.fr/photos/20051222.PHO4578.jpg

She's pretty! She works for me.

[BabeBro]

I like Meagan Good :D
http://www.abstracthiphop.com/hip-hop-honeys/meagan_good_red_skirt.jpg

and for some reason Beyonce' recently
took this pic at an event and reminded me of Monet :D
http://i13.tinypic.com/85vbehv.jpg

[sinjection]

I like Meagan Good :D
http://www.abstracthiphop.com/hip-hop-honeys/meagan_good_red_skirt.jpg

You and me both, BabeBro. You and me, both!

and for some reason Beyonce' recently
took this pic at an event and reminded me of Monet :D
http://i13.tinypic.com/85vbehv.jpg

She's stacked isn't she? Both sistas are gorgeous. Both would make fine M's. But I have to go with the Algerian girl.

This is one thing that irks me about Ultimate x-men. The writers changed Ororo's national origin from Kenyan to Moroccan. I believe this was an attempt to negate Ororo's black African heritage, making her more Arabic instead.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[GoingGreen]

Why not pick an actual Algerian actress to play Monet? Somebody should google search and find an atractive one.

The only Algerian actress I have found who has any sort of "name" is this one. But she doesn't quite looke Monet to me. Or does she?

Rachida Brakni:
http://archives.madame.lefigaro.fr/photos/20051222.PHO4578.jpg

It's the hair that screams M. The skin tone should be darker, though.

Then again, M's pretty white in X-Factor. She was a lot darker originally. As were her sisters. Her brother was gray.

[Xplicit Content]

Why not pick an actual Algerian actress to play Monet? Somebody should google search and find an atractive one.

The only Algerian actress I have found who has any sort of "name" is this one. But she doesn't quite looke Monet to me. Or does she?

Rachida Brakni:
http://archives.madame.lefigaro.fr/photos/20051222.PHO4578.jpg
I think nobody's really going with a legit Algerian for the reason you mentioned, there aren't any known ones out there. The woman you posted doesn't do it for me. I think Monet's look should be more youthful.

Christina Milian is another option for me.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/195/503883417_f81702f7e4.jpg

[sinjection]

I'm thinking the Algerian actress looks very much like this drawing of M, and vice versa:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mcomics.png

M looks as if she could be in her late 30s or early 40s in that illustration. Something's going on with her neck.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[GoingGreen]

If Aaliyah hadn't died, she would have been the PERFECT Monet.

http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/redir?src=image&clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freewebs.com%2Fcds andstuff%2Faaliyah-i%2520care%25204%2520u.jpg&moduleId=image_details.jsp.M&clickedItemDescription=Image Details

http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/redir?src=image&clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jayepurplewolf.com %2FAALIYAH%2Faaliyah14.jpg&moduleId=image_details.jsp.M&clickedItemDescription=Image Details

http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/redir?src=image&clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fwowhollywood.net%2Fima ges%2Fa%2FAaliyah%2FAaliyah3.jpg&moduleId=image_details.jsp.M&clickedItemDescription=Image Details

[Xplicit Content]

Aaliyah would've been great.

Uh, I realize this pick here will cause me to lose all credibility, but please be aware it's in jest and based on appearance...Kim Kardashian? She's Armenian, but she could pass as Algerian, heh. Yes, I realize she can't act...she can't even make a good porn, but the girl is gorgeous.

http://noezbuckets.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/kim-kardashian.jpg

[Jackob]

well the thing with m more than physical features for me is the "im better than you and i know it" additude and if someone can pull that off it is great.

[The Mirrorball Man]

And how about Moroccan actress (http://www.viewimages.com/Search.aspx?mid=76580771&epmid=3&partner=Google) Zinab Oukach? (http://www.exposay.com/zinab-oukach-2007-toronto-international-film-festival---rendition-movie-premiere/p/13521/6/)

[Xplicit Content]

well the thing with m more than physical features for me is the "im better than you and i know it" additude and if someone can pull that off it is great.
Very true...and Kardashian has the intellect of a 5 y/o, so that's yet another reason I should be shot, heh.

It's too bad Kristen Bell is a skinny little white girl...because she had the M persona down on Veronica Mars.

[sinjection]

And how about Moroccan actress (http://www.viewimages.com/Search.aspx?mid=76580771&epmid=3&partner=Google) Zinab Oukach? (http://www.exposay.com/zinab-oukach-2007-toronto-international-film-festival---rendition-movie-premiere/p/13521/6/)

This lady is Moroccan? She looks as if she could be from Moscow. She didn't even look Semitic. Ultimate Ororo is supposed to be Moroccan. There have to be Moroccans having darker skin than Ms Oukach has.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[sinjection]

If Aaliyah hadn't died, she would have been the PERFECT Monet.

http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/redir?src=image&clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freewebs.com%2Fcds andstuff%2Faaliyah-i%2520care%25204%2520u.jpg&moduleId=image_details.jsp.M&clickedItemDescription=Image Details

http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/redir?src=image&clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jayepurplewolf.com %2FAALIYAH%2Faaliyah14.jpg&moduleId=image_details.jsp.M&clickedItemDescription=Image Details

http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/redir?src=image&clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fwowhollywood.net%2Fima ges%2Fa%2FAaliyah%2FAaliyah3.jpg&moduleId=image_details.jsp.M&clickedItemDescription=Image Details

I just cringe when I think of an Aliyah lookalike M involved with Jamie Madrox.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[RoguishGurl]

This lady is Moroccan? She looks as if she could be from Moscow. She didn't even look Semitic. Ultimate Ororo is supposed to be Moroccan. There have to be Moroccans having darker skin than Ms Oukach has.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

Yeah, skin pigmentation is a very fickle thing because it is polygenic. I mean I know some black people who are lighter than her. It just depends on genetics and stuff like that.

[DaeJi]

I just cringe when I think of an Aliyah lookalike M involved with Jamie Madrox.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

Especially just ONE! I mean, the guy's called Multiple Man, time to lay back and enjoy girl! :D

[Jackob]

I just cringe when I think of an Aliyah lookalike M involved with Jamie Madrox.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

what specificaly is wrong with madrox? he is a neat guy

[GoingGreen]

what specificaly is wrong with madrox? he is a neat guy

I think Sinjection is dissing Aaliyah as M. Not Madrox.

Still, I think Aaliyah would rock it as M. Eric Dane should NOT play Multiple Man ever again. He's too good as McSteamy to be Multiple Man. Gambit maybe, if he could get the accent. Multiple Man should be for... someone funnier. I would say Dane Cook, but no. Dane Cook is too annoying.

[Pach!]

I think Sinjection is dissing Aaliyah as M. Not Madrox.

Still, I think Aaliyah would rock it as M. Eric Dane should NOT play Multiple Man ever again. He's too good as McSteamy to be Multiple Man. Gambit maybe, if he could get the accent. Multiple Man should be for... someone funnier. I would say Dane Cook, but no. Dane Cook is too annoying.
Chances are he meant it made him cringe because Madrox's white.

[sinjection]

Yeah, skin pigmentation is a very fickle thing because it is polygenic. I mean I know some black people who are lighter than her. It just depends on genetics and stuff like that.

Don't I know it. I have relatives who have been mistaken for white.

I guess there was an article in an issue of EBONY magazine a few months ago featuring an article titled: "I Am Not White". I didn't read the article myself. But I can guess that it dealt with the trials many very, very light-skinned blacks go through when their race is questioned.

Then again, in places like Algeria, Morocco, Egypt...the photographer's camera will always seem to find the lighter-skinned people and never the darker-skinned and black people who do live in those nations as well.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[sinjection]

I think Sinjection is dissing Aaliyah as M. Not Madrox.

No. I think Aaliyah could have pulled off the role of M. I just don't like the character of Madrox. From what I knew of him years ago, he was just another mutant whose power was to make duplicates of himself. Today's x-writers have made him into a smarmy degenerate whose duplicates are all c*** hounds.

I wouldn't want to see such a creature anywhere near Aaliyah.

If Aaliyah was ever cast as M, then I would hope some handsome young brother would be cast as Synch to be her opposite attraction.

[Matthew K.]

No. I think Aaliyah could have pulled off the role of M. I just don't like the character of Madrox. From what I knew of him years ago, he was just another mutant whose power was to make duplicates of himself. Today's x-writers have made him into a smarmy degenerate whose duplicates are all c*** hounds.

I wouldn't want to see such a creature anywhere near Aaliyah.

If Aaliyah was ever cast as M, then I would hope some handsome young brother would be cast as Synch to be her opposite attraction.

Would you like some cheese for that wine?

[sinjection]

Would you like some cheese for that wine?

Am I being wined and dined? I'm certainly not whining.

I'm stating a fact.

The thought of a Madrox as he is currently depicted by x-writers, being in close proximity to Aaliyah, let alone involved in an intimate relationship sickens me.

I'd rather see an Aaliyah M lookalike involved with a young brother cast in the role of Synch. That's my opinion, not a whine.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[frog]

I hope Monet is the one that is pregnant. I'd love seeing how her superpowers measure up against the trials of motherhood.

And I especially hope Madrox is the daddy so we can have the 3000 Men and a Baby story arc! :D

[Swashbuckler]

Agreed, that would be incredibly hillarious.

[DaeJi]

I hope Monet is the one that is pregnant. I'd love seeing how her superpowers measure up against the trials of motherhood.

And I especially hope Madrox is the daddy so we can have the 3000 Men and a Baby story arc! :D

That would be hilarious. And how would the woman whose physically perfect in every way (I hope Maddox know how @#$%ing luck he is :evilangry ) react to all the... "flattering" chances a woman's body goes through during pregnancy. And can you imagine her and Maddox in the delivery room?! :D (Hint: woman often scream the most vile things at the bady's father and more than one man's hand has been broken during that joyous occasion).

[sinjection]

Well as long as the impregnated Monet looks like the lady from Morocco and not like the beauteous Aaliyah, I don't have a problem with her being pregnant by that horny mutant freak.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[frog]

That would be hilarious. And how would the woman whose physically perfect in every way (I hope Maddox know how @#$%ing luck he is :evilangry ) react to all the... "flattering" chances a woman's body goes through during pregnancy. And can you imagine her and Maddox in the delivery room?! :D (Hint: woman often scream the most vile things at the bady's father and more than one man's hand has been broken during that joyous occasion).

At least Monet would always have someone around for diaper duty and baby sitting. They just have to be careful with which dupes are handling the bundle of joy.

[DaeJi]

Well as long as the impregnated Monet looks like the lady from Morocco and not like the beauteous Aaliyah, I don't have a problem with her being pregnant by that horny mutant freak.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

She looks like neither. And really, feel free to switch off any time.

[Jackob]

I hope Monet is the one that is pregnant. I'd love seeing how her superpowers measure up against the trials of motherhood.

And I especially hope Madrox is the daddy so we can have the 3000 Men and a Baby story arc! :D

i just hope that madroxs good dad dupe wasnt wasted on his minister dupe

but that would be probably the best story in x-factor history if that went down

[Jackob]

That would be hilarious. And how would the woman whose physically perfect in every way (I hope Maddox know how @#$%ing luck he is :evilangry ) react to all the... "flattering" chances a woman's body goes through during pregnancy. And can you imagine her and Maddox in the delivery room?! :D (Hint: woman often scream the most vile things at the bady's father and more than one man's hand has been broken during that joyous occasion).

she just starts squeezing his hand and like 12 more of him are in the room that would be great.

[frog]

she just starts squeezing his hand and like 12 more of him are in the room that would be great.

This gets better and better! :D

[sinjection]

She looks like neither. And really, feel free to switch off any time.

I don't feel free. I am free. There's no doubts about that.

And I breathe a sigh of deep relief that the Monet suffering the strange possible pregnancy by something that is nothing more than a clone...like that sheep "Lucy"...is nothing like the beautiful Aaliyah.

There are too many mutant females of color suffering the indignities of misguided romances and their consequences at the hands of the x-writers.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[DaeJi]

she just starts squeezing his hand and like 12 more of him are in the room that would be great.

What would be get is if they all have broken hands.

[frog]

i just hope that madroxs good dad dupe wasnt wasted on his minister dupe

but that would be probably the best story in x-factor history if that went down

If Madrox has an infinite number of dupes I'm sure there's more than one suitable for daddy duty.

[Matthew K.]

I don't feel free. I am free. There's no doubts about that.

And I breathe a sigh of deep relief that the Monet suffering the strange possible pregnancy by something that is nothing more than a clone...like that sheep "Lucy"...is nothing like the beautiful Aaliyah.

There are too many mutant females of color suffering the indignities of misguided romances and their consequences at the hands of the x-writers.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X
Just because you're racist & narrow-minded doesn't mean the "beautiful characters of color" that you claim to like are...get over it. And get over yourself.

[sinjection]

Just because you're racist & narrow-minded ...

Uncalled for and untrue in any case. So being the big man that I am, I'll simply let such foolishness slide by without further remark on it.


....doesn't mean the "beautiful characters of color" that you claim to like are...get over it. And get over yourself.

Unfortunately, those "beautiful characters of color" are often written by white male writers who put them into situations that if they were actual flesh and blood females with minds of their own, wouldn't EVER go for.

No woman in her right mind would sleep with a clone or kiss an animal.


Just telling it like it is.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[RoguishGurl]

Uncalled for and untrue in any case. So being the big man that I am, I'll simply let such foolishness slide by without further remark on it.

sinjection, sometimes your comments do come across as racist. I'm not saying you are, but the way you present yourself makes it seem like you are. Some of the comments you make towards interracial relationships make it seem that way. Maybe you should just say it in a different way. I'm sure no one here has any problems with having more minority characters or same race relationships, but they just have a problem because it seems that you put down some characters just because they are white. That's all. Maybe if you express your opinion in a different way, no one will assume that you are racist.


Now back to M, I like her. hmm, maybe I could be her for next Halloween! That would be cool. I still like Alicia Keys as M, or maybe Zoe Kravitz!

[RoguishGurl]

Zoe Kravitz as M?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y279/NrllAless/blog/news/covergirls/zoe_elle2.jpg

http://www.aolcdn.com/ch_bv/zoe-kravitz-on-the-road-335a072307.jpg

[sinjection]

sinjection, sometimes your comments do come across as racist.

How is that possible? I haven't ever used a racist or sexist pejorative or slur. I haven't ever impugned any race or anyone's lifestyle. Those posters who seem to have a problem with me, I have always ignored to avoid silly confrontation. How then are my comments racist?

There isn't any other way I see to express my disdain for what I see happening to black characters and characters of color in the x-books. No. I am not pleased that x-writers have chosen to involve a black female character in a romantic relationship with a "beast"...he is even called "BEAST". It doesn't get anymore plain than that. Don't I have a right to my opinion?

I don't like the fact that so many black characters, black male mutant characters in especial, have been depowered or destroyed. The black male mutant has been depreciated and decimated. Bishop is looked on unfavorably by his fellow mutants. David Alleyne suffered long and hard at the hands of a bullying white male mutant. A mutant who'd assumed the appearance of a black male mutant with a cornrow hairstyle and named "Slick", was humbled by a pipsqueak of a white male mutant, revealed to be a pathetic little troll character, with a cornrow hairstyle, and his girlfriend was appropriated by the pipsqueak of a white male who'd humbled him.

I don't have to go through the entire litany of my concerns and complaints again. I don't see how posting my honest opinion of those complaints and concerns can be construed as being racist. I have no control over what other people think of me, say about me or to me. I can ignore most of it, which I do. If some say that my posts are intended to "bait" members into a confrontation, then I can say the same thing with respect to many of their posts. I haven't accused anyone in this public forum of being racist. That is a very serious accusation. I have disagreed with what many of you seem to believe are entertaining situations in these x-books. I have a contrary viewpoint. I've posted messages reflecting that viewpoint. I may have been somewhat controversial at times, but I've always been a perfect gentleman about it :)

Now back to M, I like her. hmm, maybe I could be her for next Halloween! That would be cool. I still like Alicia Keys as M, or maybe Zoe Kravitz!

I'm sure I'd like M. I know I'd like Nezhno. I'd read more about them except for the fact they both appear in x-publications :) I agree with the member who posted the pic of the Algerian actress. I understand that M is now being colored "lighter" in the books these days, evidently to stress her Arabic heritage. If such is the case, then that Algerian actress would be perfect in the role of an Algerian superheroine.

Alicia Keyes could possibly be cast opposite the character playing John Stewart in the JL action movie. Or, if ever the Black Panther movie gets into production, Alicia could be cast as Monica Lynne.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[sinjection]

Zoe Kravitz as M?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y279/NrllAless/blog/news/covergirls/zoe_elle2.jpg

http://www.aolcdn.com/ch_bv/zoe-kravitz-on-the-road-335a072307.jpg

She is a lovely girl. No questioning that. It's getting so anyone could post a pic of any exotic-looking female and say, "Here's M" :)

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[Brian M.]

http://www.betterthanfudge.com/img/fatstar.jpg

M?

[Cayman]

Amelle Berrabah


I love Amelle!

[Jackob]

http://www.betterthanfudge.com/img/fatstar.jpg

M?

more like MMMMMMMMMMM:p

[Divalykeprincess]

http://www.betterthanfudge.com/img/fatstar.jpg

M?




That's funny!

[Wind-Breaker]

http://www.betterthanfudge.com/img/fatstar.jpg

M?

Thats just...so...wrong lol

[Slung]

Here is another Algerian actress (actually, she's a french actress of Algerian descent - Monet is Algerian and speaks French!!).

Her name is Leila Bekhti. HOT!

http://b7.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01245/79/14/1245854197_l.jpg

http://b1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01252/18/02/1252372081_l.jpg

http://a449.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/29/l_9932baa763ab49076e1a6785cc7c99e0.jpg

[Monty_Cristo]

http://www.betterthanfudge.com/img/fatstar.jpg

M?

you must have cropped off the part where she is sitting on a miserable M.

[Jackob]

Here is another Algerian actress (actually, she's a french actress of Algerian descent - Monet is Algerian and speaks French!!).

Her name is Leila Bekhti. HOT!

http://b7.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01245/79/14/1245854197_l.jpg

http://b1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01252/18/02/1252372081_l.jpg

http://a449.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/29/l_9932baa763ab49076e1a6785cc7c99e0.jpg

she looks good for M, and she has m`s background to. good fit

[sinjection]

Here is another Algerian actress (actually, she's a french actress of Algerian descent - Monet is Algerian and speaks French!!).

Her name is Leila Bekhti. HOT!

http://b7.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01245/79/14/1245854197_l.jpg

http://b1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01252/18/02/1252372081_l.jpg

http://a449.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/29/l_9932baa763ab49076e1a6785cc7c99e0.jpg

She could pass for a member of my family.

___sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[sinjection]

you must have cropped off the part where she is sitting on a miserable M.

If that's Star Jones, I don't think M would be miserable if she were sitting on her today. In fact, I would imagine M would think a feather had fallen on her.

You see, through the wonders of medical science and healthy eating, Star Jones is now a very shapely and lovely black woman. Star is looking so good these days, she'd probably have to fight off the remainder of the remainder of Madrox's perverted, sex-crazed duplicates if she ever made a cameo appearance in an x-book.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[Fatguy]

A lot of good suggestions on who would make a good M, but I'm afraid the correct choice has already been put forth ;)





However:


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/streetcarp645/RosarioDawson1.jpg


http://www.shunn.net/bill/log/img/meme-rosario.jpg

Rosario so owns this role. I could see her on the fashion scene AND smashing some face.

[Slung]

She could pass for a member of my family.

___sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

Really? She's beautiful. The other Algerian girl I found (while gorgeous) seemed too light skinned (and maybe a little old - 30) for Monet. Leila is 23 according to her mySpace page. Perfect movie Monet. Now, lets just hope she speaks English well since her native langague is probably French.

I think its cool when we can find the right nationality for her. I kind of wish they had found an actual Kenyan (Or at least an East African) actress to play Storm too.

[Cayman]

I kind of wish they had found an actual Kenyan (Or at least an East African) actress to play Storm too.

I kind of wish they had found an actual actress to play Storm.

[Slung]

I kind of wish they had found an actual actress to play Storm.

LOL - that too, I suppose. I edit:WOULD have settled for a young Angela Basset myself.

[Starleafgirl]

Christina Milian is another option for me.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/195/503883417_f81702f7e4.jpg

She's the one I chose in my "casting of Generation X" video. :D

she is french/bosinan(her dad) and algerian(her mother)

Bosnian actually only comes from the fact that she was born in the capital of Serbia (her father's an Ambassador, so I suppose the St. Croix family was there at the time of her birth). She's French Algerian, one of the darker skinned Algerians.

Like... Algerian Women look like this:
http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/places/images/ga/algeria_saddlebag-guardian.jpg

Then again, M's pretty white in X-Factor. She was a lot darker originally. As were her sisters. Her brother was gray.

Her brother was only gray after his mutant power manifested, as I recall. I could be wrong. Why am I even nitpicking this point? Moving on...

I just don't like the character of Madrox. From what I knew of him years ago, he was just another mutant whose power was to make duplicates of himself. Today's x-writers have made him into a smarmy degenerate whose duplicates are all c*** hounds.

Actually, there's a dupe of Madrox living in a small town as their minister who has a young son and a doting wife. He's a pillar of the community and a family man. So, please, think of this before you start calling all of Madrox's dupes sex-crazed and perverted again.

but they just have a problem because it seems that you put down some characters just because they are white. That's all. Maybe if you express your opinion in a different way, no one will assume that you are racist.

I know you already responded to this, sinjection, but I just wanted to say I agree with RoguishGurl's assessment and point to that as the possible reason for why some people may see many of your comments as racist...

Here is another Algerian actress (actually, she's a french actress of Algerian descent - Monet is Algerian and speaks French!!).

Her name is Leila Bekhti. HOT!

Perfect in so many ways! Thanks for posting!! :) Sorry, Fatguy, but I am really liking Leila Bekhti for this one.

[Cayman]

LOL - that too, I suppose. I wouldn't have settled for a young Angela Basset myself.

Yeah, she would've been perfect. She was so great in Strange Days, I'd love to see her in an action role again.

[Slung]

Yeah, she would've been perfect. She was so great in Strange Days, I'd love to see her in an action role again.

Glad my accidentally typing "wouldn't" didn't make you think I didn't want Basset. She would have been AWESOME for Storm.

[Faded]

Here is another Algerian actress (actually, she's a french actress of Algerian descent - Monet is Algerian and speaks French!!).

Her name is Leila Bekhti. HOT!

http://b7.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01245/79/14/1245854197_l.jpg

http://b1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01252/18/02/1252372081_l.jpg

http://a449.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/29/l_9932baa763ab49076e1a6785cc7c99e0.jpg

Oooh! She's pretty from the side!

[RoguishGurl]

Here is another Algerian actress (actually, she's a french actress of Algerian descent - Monet is Algerian and speaks French!!).

Her name is Leila Bekhti. HOT!

http://b7.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01245/79/14/1245854197_l.jpg

http://b1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01252/18/02/1252372081_l.jpg

http://a449.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/29/l_9932baa763ab49076e1a6785cc7c99e0.jpg

Okay, that is the best M I have seen! Good job Slung!!

[Cayman]

She does look very M.

[sinjection]

Actually, there's a dupe of Madrox living in a small town as their minister who has a young son and a doting wife. He's a pillar of the community and a family man. So, please, think of this before you start calling all of Madrox's dupes sex-crazed and perverted again.

So why couldn't the x-writers have hooked M up with one of that freak mutant's "noble" dupes instead of one of his many perverted dupes? That's what I'm saying. The x-writers seem to always give the black characters and characters of color, the short end of the stick when it comes to matters of relationships and real power - with the possible exception of Storm re: power (if you can call being "blue team leader" of the x-men "power").

x-writers had Storm in near romantic relationships with Nightcrawler and with ...you all already know who :) . One x-writer placed Cecilia Reyes in a romantic relationship with a mutant who is also totally unsuited to her physically. In the meantime, you have julian keller and that Laura girl. you have Cyclops and Emma Frost, Polaris with Havoc, Cannonball with Lila Cheney, Gambit with Rogue, Gambit's eyes are kinda funky, but at least he looks human. The white characters almost always seem to be matched with another attractive white character. The black female characters have been matched with ... let's just say men who are physically unequal to their beauty. M has been matched with a perverted clone.

Storm could have been matched with Bishop years ago. Why didn't that happen? Why was the honorable Synch killed off only to have M impregnated by the perverted dupe of a truly freakish mutant? Those are not unreasonable or hostile questions. Those are valid queries.



I know you already responded to this, sinjection, but I just wanted to say I agree with RoguishGurl's assessment and point to that as the possible reason for why some people may see many of your comments as racist...

I will say this for the final time. I am not responsible for how people perceive my posts. If they misinterpret what it is I am truly saying - and that has happened more times than I can mention - there is really nothing I can do about it. If I were a troublemaker, I would be responding to any and every post containing what they must believe are "retaliatory remarks". As you and RG have seen, I ignore those posters. Those posters know who they are, too. I have been a gentleman and a good citizen throughout. Have I posted pics of obese white women to any threads? :D No I haven't. Have I posted pics of the worst and most questionable sights one might see at a gay pride parade? No. I haven't. That's not me. That's not why I'm here.

I do have a right to my opinion and the right to express that opinion. I have done so in a classy manner, if I must say so myself.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[DaeJi]

I will say this for the final time. I am not responsible for how people perceive my posts. If they misinterpret what it is I am truly saying - and that has happened more times than I can mention - there is really nothing I can do about it. If I were a troublemaker, I would be responding to any and every post containing what they must believe are "retaliatory remarks". As you and RG have seen, I ignore those posters. Those posters know who they are, too. I have been a gentleman and a good citizen throughout. Have I posted pics of obese white women to any threads? :D No I haven't. Have I posted pics of the worst and most questionable sights one might see at a gay pride parade? No. I haven't. That's not me. That's not why I'm here.

I do have a right to my opinion and the right to express that opinion. I have done so in a classy manner, if I must say so myself.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

You don't have to post a bunch of racial slurs or pictures to be construed as racist. If I went around talking about how sick I am of "blacks preying on the white characters, especially the women," you can bet your butt I would be called racist by everyone, including you. Plus, you have one viewpoint. ONE. Get another one and you'll have two.

I like the Siryn/Maddox/M triangle. Although I do think that in the end Maddox and Siryn work better than Maddox and M, I would still LOVE to see M as the one he knocked up.

[Pach!]

I think if people are going to give their opinion about a story they should have at least read it, so they know what they're talking about.

When Monet slept with Madrox she didn't know it was a clone. And the clone isn't perverted. It just had sex.

Unless sex is perverted to certain people?

Whatever, it's like Frenzy, people form opinions about her not knowing anything at all abut the character except that she's black.

[DaeJi]

Whatever, it's like Frenzy, people form opinions about her not knowing anything at all abut the character except that she's black.

Whose Frenzy?

[sinjection]

Really?

I wouldn't lie to you.

She's beautiful.

As are many members of my family. Like most black American families, there has been much intermarriage and interracial relationships. This is not to say those of us who are more "African" in appearance aren't attractive. If such were the case, we would not be attractive to those caucasians of Greek, Anglo and Scandanavian extraction, hispanics and Asians...and some people whom I truly cannot identify, into our family.

I think your latest entry works best for M by the way.

___sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[Jackob]

I think if people are going to give their opinion about a story they should have at least read it, so they know what they're talking about.

When Monet slept with Madrox she didn't know it was a clone. And the clone isn't perverted. It just had sex.

Unless sex is perverted to certain people?

Whatever, it's like Frenzy, people form opinions about her not knowing anything at all abut the character except that she's black.

i formed my opinions of frenzy knowing that she is realy tall
because im a hieghtist

[Slung]

I wouldn't lie to you.



As are many members of my family. Like most black American families, there has been much intermarriage and interracial relationships. This is not to say those of us who are more "African" in appearance aren't attractive. If such were the case, we would not be attractive to those caucasians of Greek, Anglo and Scandanavian extraction, hispanics and Asians...and some people whom I truly cannot identify, into our family.

I think your latest entry works best for M by the way.

___sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X
Thats cool - having a pretty family is always nice. I think my family is pretty attractive too. :). Thanks for appreciating my Monet hunt.

[Post-It]

I like the Siryn/Maddox/M triangle. Although I do think that in the end Maddox and Siryn work better than Maddox and M, I would still LOVE to see M as the one he knocked up.

On one hand its always funny for the Miss Perfect to get pregnant. But to allow to happen so soon and by a duplicate is horrible. SHE HAS BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH. The reason she is so cold at times is her characters has been through an emotional ringer. I know Syrin has also but at least her and Jamie have a history. Can you imagine if she keeps it?

Try that convo with your kid, " Hey, so I was young and I slept with this thing who was made by a guy but is really part of the guy which was after I was trapped in some thing for a while by my older brother...."

[DaeJi]

On one hand its always funny for the Miss Perfect to get pregnant. But to allow to happen so soon and by a duplicate is horrible. SHE HAS BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH. The reason she is so cold at times is her characters has been through an emotional ringer. I know Syrin has also but at least her and Jamie have a history. Can you imagine if she keeps it?

Try that convo with your kid, " Hey, so I was young and I slept with this thing who was made by a guy but is really part of the guy which was after I was trapped in some thing for a while by my older brother...."

Hence the greatness of it; story is all about conflict, and if a creator really loves a character and wants people to love them as well, they put that character through Hell.

[Post-It]

Hence the greatness of it; story is all about conflict, and if a creator really loves a character and wants people to love them as well, they put that character through Hell.

Good point. I was just hoping that after her horrible childhood she could find some stability.

[DaeJi]

Good point. I was just hoping that after her horrible childhood she could find some stability.

Heh, your avatar makes that statement unintentionally hilarious. :D

And besides, having a child may be good for her. Perhaps having such a defenseless creature rely on her for everything would help her to deal with what she went through as Penance.

[Slung]

Heh, your avatar makes that statement unintentionally hilarious. :D

And besides, having a child may be good for her. Perhaps having such a defenseless creature rely on her for everything would help her to deal with what she went through as Penance.

Meh, I'm hoping the whole Monet is Penance is twins is Penance thing is ignored and retconned out of existence. I remember Hama telling a fan that he was going to be on GenX until he drove it into the ground. He was taken off before he could completely destroy it, but the title never recovered.

Poor Monet. I think the whole scenario was just a psychic ruse on her part to keep people off track of her real secrets. Yeah, thats it.

[Nyssane]

Whose Frenzy?

*GASP*

You must not be reading X-Men right now. :( She's an X-Baddie who has worked for Apocalypse, Magneto, and Sinister and still made time to be mind-controlled into working for the X-Men.

[DaeJi]

*GASP*

You must not be reading X-Men right now. :( She's an X-Baddie who has worked for Apocalypse, Magneto, and Sinister and still made time to be mind-controlled into working for the X-Men.

I know, I know, I was just making a joke :p

[bluedmighty]

Stopped in to show "M"iss Perfect some luvin.

[Starleafgirl]

I remember Hama telling a fan that he was going to be on GenX until he drove it into the ground. He was taken off before he could completely destroy it, but the title never recovered.

THAT RAT BASTARD! :mad: He ruined my favorite character and marred my favorite series ON PURPOSE?!

[Xplicit Content]

Just came up with another look-alike while watching the Victoria's Secret fashion show (heh), Selita Ebanks. Why not cast a covergirl for our Vanity Fair girl? I'm pretty sure she acts also...though it's more of an aspiring type of deal. She has the smarts too.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/117/315473268_d321f96c2b.jpg
http://www.pr.com/upload/article_attachment_1172024985.jpg
http://st.blog.cz/f/famous-life.blog.cz/obrazky/9734099.jpg
http://www.thehimalayantimes.com/Aeon/News/2007/10/06/images/200710051530043.jpg

[Novaya Havoc]

Look how HARDCORE M is!!!!

http://www.pop-arena.com/articles/genx/71.gif

[Slung]

Look how HARDCORE M is!!!!

http://www.pop-arena.com/articles/genx/71.gif

She didn't fly though. And she wasn't Algerian. Two points deducted for that.

[That JonoGuy]

She didn't fly though. And she wasn't Algerian. Two points deducted for that.

And that hair... don't even get me started.

[Slung]

And that hair... don't even get me started.

You're right. THAT was a mess too. Lets talk about how Chamber was completely left out and replaced with Cyclops junior.

[Xplicit Content]

I actually thought Monet from that God awful Gen X movie was one of the only things they got right.

After seeing Cloverfield, I decided that the girl who played Lily is Monet.

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/72/90/98f.jpg

[Slung]

I actually thought Monet from that God awful Gen X movie was one of the only things they got right.

After seeing Cloverfield, I decided that the girl who played Lily is Monet.


Does she have a french accent or have a North African heritage like MY perfect choice? ;)

Here is another Algerian actress (actually, she's a french actress of Algerian descent - Monet is Algerian and speaks French!!).

Her name is Leila Bekhti. HOT!

http://b7.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01245/79/14/1245854197_l.jpg

http://b1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01252/18/02/1252372081_l.jpg

http://a449.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/29/l_9932baa763ab49076e1a6785cc7c99e0.jpg

[Teh m0nk3y]

Layla Bekhti is truly the perfect fit for M. She has all the base requirements needed, which people usually forget to factor in. How did you find out about her?

[Slung]

Layla Bekhti is truly the perfect fit for M. She has all the base requirements needed, which people usually forget to factor in. How did you find out about her?

I Googled Algerian actress baby. Looked for one around the right age and who had some kind of film cred. She was the best of the best. :D

[Teh m0nk3y]

I think I'll watch Sheitan to see her in action. :)

[Xplicit Content]

Does she have a french accent or have a North African heritage like MY perfect choice? ;)
I dunno, but I bet my choice is a great French kisser!!!:evilsmile

[Starleafgirl]

You're right. THAT was a mess too. Lets talk about how Chamber was completely left out and replaced with Cyclops junior.

Or how Penance was left out and replaced with... oh, no one. Hmm.

I actually thought Monet from that God awful Gen X movie was one of the only things they got right.

After seeing Cloverfield, I decided that the girl who played Lily is Monet.

Hmm, she could be okay; she looks okay and can act, but I still like Slung's choice better. Not holding out any hope for that other suggestion, Ms. Ebanks, though, on the acting or the looks front. Slung's choice, on the other hand, looks startlingly like what I'd expect Monet to look like in real life.

I suppose we'd all be happy to have Monet played by anyone competent as long as she got into a good movie with her full powers set. ;)

Oh, but on to the REAL reason I posted in this thread again...

Is Monet preggers? Does anyone know for sure at this point? Is Wolfsbane's breath really that bad? :D

[Tre Styles]

Oh, but on to the REAL reason I posted in this thread again...

Is Monet preggers? Does anyone know for sure at this point? Is Wolfsbane's breath really that bad? :D

Nope. It turned out to be Siryn who is going to be Jamie's baby momma.:eek:
But Monet gets some good lines in the latest X-Factor.

[Starleafgirl]

Nope. It turned out to be Siryn who is going to be Jamie's baby momma.:eek:
But Monet gets some good lines in the latest X-Factor.

*tear* Banshee was gonna be a Granddad (if he lived)! It's so sad that he's gone! Although M, as one of the Gen X kids, was basically one of his surrogate daughters as well. :rolleyes:

That's a great tagline, btw: Siryn, Jamie's baby's momma.

Anyway, thanks for clearing that up for me, Tre. :D

[Catlin]

But Monet gets some good lines in the latest X-Factor.

Who knew Monet was a Three's Company fan? :D

I never liked M at all, until PAD began writing her. She has grown on me and I hope she sticks around for a long, long time.

[ZNOP]

Layla Bekhti is truly the perfect fit for M. She has all the base requirements needed, which people usually forget to factor in. How did you find out about her?


I, believe you mean "Leila Bekhti" I, still feel that Stacey Dash is a fantastic choice for Monet.

[La Fea]

*tear* Banshee was gonna be a Granddad (if he lived)! It's so sad that he's gone! Although M, as one of the Gen X kids, was basically one of his surrogate daughters as well. :rolleyes:

That's a great tagline, btw: Siryn, Jamie's baby's momma.

Anyway, thanks for clearing that up for me, Tre. :D

You really should be reading X-Factor, starleafgirl!

[Teh m0nk3y]

I, believe you mean "Leila Bekhti" I, still feel that Stacey Dash is a fantastic choice for Monet.

Typo is how old now? 01-27-2008?

[ZNOP]

Typo is how old now? 01-27-2008?

Well, honestly if one were to do a search on the name that you provided they would come up with a reference to this thread and a different person(s). No? I, just Clarified things is all and, save the people the trouble. No harm done.

[Starleafgirl]

You really should be reading X-Factor, starleafgirl!

Hehehe, yeah? I bought some back issues, they were pretty good. #13 through #16.

Not a huge Monet fan (is that heresy in this thread? lol), I just thought I'd see a bit of what she's been up to since Generation X, in the #13-#15 arc, and the concept of #16 looked good, too.

I've got a bit of post-Generation X of all the kids, though most of it is that awful Chuck Austen stuff (well they weren't in much else together, lol). ;D "Divided We Stand" looks like it'll be good for some post-GenX Husk, though. :)

[Starleafgirl]

A Monet/Talia al Ghul (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6632986&postcount=86) comic strip that every Monet fan should read, if you havne't already. :biggrin:

[Slung]

Resurrecting the Monet thread with some awesome Bachalo images: my favorite Monet artist EVER!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378458-105955-m_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378463-164260-m_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378461-186709-m_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/112168-177645-m_super.jpg

[Slung]

And some more!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/386049-15991-m_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/368187-4853-m_super.gif

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/368185-141893-m_super.gif

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/112176-59808-m_super.jpg

[Dagger]

Resurrecting the Monet thread with some awesome Bachalo images: my favorite Monet artist EVER!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378458-105955-m_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378463-164260-m_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378461-186709-m_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/112168-177645-m_super.jpg
OMG, How much I miss Gen. X soooo bad!!!!! I'm re-reading all my 90's comics! '94-'97 was my favorite 'era' for X comics!!

[Xplicit Content]

One of my favorite moments in Messiah CompleX wasn't even story-related...it was the huge gift of seeing Bachalo reunite with Monet.

[La Fea]

One of my favorite moments in Messiah CompleX wasn't even story-related...it was the huge gift of seeing Bachalo reunite with Monet.

It was far too brief and not what I had hoped though. She was like...in the background the entire time except during that red scene with Warpath.

I guess I had my hopes too high though knowing coming into the crossover that he'd be penciling and she'd be appearing.

I wanted more, Bachalo! MORE. NOW PLZ.
WILL BJ FOR A BC M.

[Michael Sean]

Resurrecting the Monet thread with some awesome Bachalo images: my favorite Monet artist EVER!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378458-105955-m_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378463-164260-m_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378461-186709-m_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/112168-177645-m_super.jpg


I like these. I need to dig out my Gen X comics and get more familiar with the series. Monet, Synch, and Husk were my favorites.

[Dagger]

It was far too brief and not what I had hoped though. She was like...in the background the entire time except during that red scene with Warpath.

I guess I had my hopes too high though knowing coming into the crossover that he'd be penciling and she'd be appearing.

I wanted more, Bachalo! MORE. NOW PLZ.
WILL BJ FOR A BC M.
lulz. You're such a whore for your passions. Loves it.

[La Fea]

Just to clarify: I will BJ for a CB M, though I'm not opposed to Brian Cronin's version either.

[Dagger]

Just to clarify: I will BJ for a CB M, though I'm not opposed to Brian Cronin's version either.
lolol!!! I heart you so much1

[Cicero]

Does anyone know where to find the image from Monet's 1994 Marvel Universe card, by Bachalo? I have the card, but my scanner's on the other side of the continent right now and I was hoping to use it for a project at home. I've found Jubilee's online, but not those of any of the rest of Generation X.

[Justin K.]

A monet moment I love :smile: So ruthless and funny. Monet rules!

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/MonetSiryn1.jpg

[psycwave]

I love M. She is like........perfection. They should bring Jesse Bedlam back to have them hook up. Her bitchiness to his over the top jerk/clown type behaviour. Opposites attract.

[La Fea]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/484379-monet3_super.jpg

...but she's not too sexy for your vote.

VOTE OR DIE:

CBR's Top 50 X-Men (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=233090)

[timbox]

...but she's not too sexy for your vote.

VOTE OR DIE:

CBR's Top 50 X-Men (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=233090)

Omg La Fea, whoring for votes. Shame on you.

[La Fea]

Omg La Fea, whoring for votes. Shame on you.

Gotta make a living somehow, my dear timbox.

[timbox]

Gotta make a living somehow, my dear timbox.

I'm just glad that I would never do anything like that.

[La Fea]

I'm just glad that I would never do anything like that.

Mmhmm.

You call them sleepovers, I just call it business.

[timbox]

Mmhmm.

You call them sleepovers, I just call it business.

I do like your style. I'll give you that much.

[XaviersMisprint]

sometimes i hate myself for thinking that i am basically a male version of monet st. croix... but then i realize, she's frigen awesome, so why not like myself? i mean, i can't fly, i cannot read minds or punch holes through brick walls, but i am hot as burning sin and i am a divalicious mothafreaka.

haha no, i'm being so sarcastic right now. i love monet, she's such an asshole, but she's so good at it. and parents always tell their children to practice with what they're good at to pursue in life....

[Justin K.]

If you appreciate Monet, this thread's for you :smile:

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=233266

[Starleafgirl]

A monet moment I love :smile: So ruthless and funny. Monet rules!

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/MonetSiryn1.jpg

I think that moment shows how ruthless the real Monet is... the real Monet who was imprisoned and fed from for years by her brother and, let's face it, wasn't a very nice person before all that, either.

I don't think it's funny. I think it's sad. I pity her.

Even as far back as the late Generation X issues, she didn't see any problem with ruthlessly knocking out baddies (remember the Monet/Jubilee New York trip?), but in the final issue, when Emma kills that policeman, Monet's still innocent enough to be shocked to witness it. She could've been more shocked that her mentor would do such a thing, but I really do think, from her reaction, that it shook her to the core.

I suppose the events in her life (and in that issue of X-Factor, of course, lol), since the end of Generation X have led her to this point.

Yeah, I know, I'm taking comics way too seriously. But that's what we're here for. :D

And, I admit, if I don't think about it being MONET being the one doing the actual killing, it is a little funny. :D

[ChrisLHanssen]

Someone please tell me what is M's mutant power?

[Justin K.]

I think that moment shows how ruthless the real Monet is... the real Monet who was imprisoned and fed from for years by her brother and, let's face it, wasn't a very nice person before all that, either.

I don't think it's funny. I think it's sad. I pity her.

Even as far back as the late Generation X issues, she didn't see any problem with ruthlessly knocking out baddies (remember the Monet/Jubilee New York trip?), but in the final issue, when Emma kills that policeman, Monet's still innocent enough to be shocked to witness it. She could've been more shocked that her mentor would do such a thing, but I really do think, from her reaction, that it shook her to the core.

I suppose the events in her life (and in that issue of X-Factor, of course, lol), since the end of Generation X have led her to this point.

Yeah, I know, I'm taking comics way too seriously. But that's what we're here for. :D

And, I admit, if I don't think about it being MONET being the one doing the actual killing, it is a little funny. :D

The guy broke one of her expensive eggs she bought in paris (with bullets) and he was a part of an anti-mutant protest. Love Monet's reaction :smile: apathetic yet ruthless

[Slung]

I dont think sinjection's posts were racist, i mean not as racist as some people in other threads discussing the strange absense of black(african) mutants on X teams (theres only two)

but whatever

I think its funny that everyone is posting pics of lighter skinned actressess M is a darkskinned woman and to be portrayed by anything lighter than she really is would be a slap in the face

when they did that weird Dreamshaper book her brother looked black, her sisters looked black, her current coloring is just a mistake....thats it

and Zoe Kravtiz.....uhh wow....thats lenny and lisa bonet's kid right??? wow.... uhh yeah she would be the prefect M it seems shes a model and probably tall like M is supposed to be

and stacy dash was 30 when she played a 15 year old so her playing M wouldnt be that far fetched

Monet is North African closer to Berber or Arab. So, she should be someone of that racial background. To portray her any different would be a slap in the face. Also Monet's father was white French Algerian I believe (at least in his initial appearances).

Here were some actual Algerian actresses that I found earlier in this thread!

Why not pick an actual Algerian actress to play Monet? Somebody should google search and find an atractive one.

The only Algerian actress I have found who has any sort of "name" is this one. But she doesn't quite looke Monet to me. Or does she?

Rachida Brakni:
http://archives.madame.lefigaro.fr/photos/20051222.PHO4578.jpg

Here is another Algerian actress (actually, she's a french actress of Algerian descent - Monet is Algerian and speaks French!!).

Her name is Leila Bekhti. HOT!

http://b7.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01245/79/14/1245854197_l.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378458-105955-m_super.jpg

http://a449.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/29/l_9932baa763ab49076e1a6785cc7c99e0.jpg

[Leirus]

Monet is North African closer to Berber or Arab. So, she should be someone of that racial background. To portray her any different would be a slap in the face. Also Monet's father was white French Algerian I believe (at least in his initial appearances).

Here were some actual Algerian actresses that I found earlier in this thread!

Correct !!, I know that in America the people is considered either white, black, hispanic or native... but there is no need to squeeze other people in that classification... I do not like when she is pictured as a african american, and not because of racism, but because she is North African . You would have problems trying to tell apart a lot of people from the south of spain or italy from people from the North of Moroco, Tunisia or Algeria...

[Yogaflame]

Actually, Arab or European looking North Africans are still the minority. A lot of Berbers are in fact some of the darkest people you will ever meet, their roots being East African.

Her father has been portrayed alternatively as white and black, so that's up in the air. Speaking French is a hold over from colonial times, so that's not exactly a sign of ethnicity, so much as culture.

To me, Monet and her siblings have always been portrayed as far more "Africoid" than anything else. Her brother even has dreadlocks! I like it when she has nice, rich brown skin the color of cocoa. A little lighter is fine too, but its not nice when they color her the shade one might associate with an Italian or Greek. It goes against her earlier representations from Gen X, which I think would be her standard.

[ExodusCloak]

Actually, Arab or European looking North Africans are still the minority. A lot of Berbers are in fact some of the darkest people you will ever meet, their roots being East African.

Her father has been portrayed alternatively as white and black, so that's up in the air. Speaking French is a hold over from colonial times, so that's not exactly a sign of ethnicity, so much as culture.

To me, Monet and her siblings have always been portrayed as far more "Africoid" than anything else. Her brother even has dreadlocks! I like it when she has nice, rich brown skin the color of cocoa. A little lighter is fine too, but its not nice when they color her the shade one might associate with an Italian or Greek. It goes against her earlier representations from Gen X, which I think would be her standard.

Umm Algeria is another story though 97% of the population is classified as Berber-Arab, anyway her skin being brown can pretty much change shades drastically depending on how much time she spends in the sun.

[Home made ectoplasm]

Resurrecting the Monet thread with some awesome Bachalo images: my favorite Monet artist EVER!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378458-105955-m_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378463-164260-m_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378461-186709-m_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/112168-177645-m_super.jpg

Just reading these issues for the first time, makes me really appreciate M as a character.

[Hi-Fi]

LOL. I love Monet and Jubes in these early issues. And Paige. And Jono. And Angelo. Heck, I love all of them. Gen X was so good at the beginning.

[Home made ectoplasm]

LOL. I love Monet and Jubes in these early issues. And Paige. And Jono. And Angelo. Heck, I love all of them. Gen X was so good at the beginning.

I got the first 20 issues for $20! I assumed it was a 90s crapfest, I apolgise unreservedly!

[Hi-Fi]

I got the first 20 issues for $20! I assumed it was a 90s crapfest, I apolgise unreservedly!
Are you shitting me? Those are fantastic issues. Well, not all of them, but most of it! Bachalo's art was amazing. Have you read the Christmas issue yet? Great art.

And perfect M:

"I studied the roads before we left, Mr. Cassidy. There is no bridge".

[Home made ectoplasm]

Are you shitting me? Those are fantastic issues. Well, not all of them, but most of it! Bachalo's art was amazing. Have you read the Christmas issue yet? Great art.

And perfect M:

"I studied the roads before we left, Mr. Cassidy. There is no bridge".

I know that now! I am so pissed off about Skin, Synch and Banshee being dead :mad:

[Slung]

Actually, Arab or European looking North Africans are still the minority. A lot of Berbers are in fact some of the darkest people you will ever meet, their roots being East African.

When you google "Berber Women", this is what you might get:
http://www.historyofjihad.org/africa5.jpg
http://www.mythinglinks.org/sahara2.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2364/2287318317_9478e644c2.jpg?v=1206871798


There are very dark Berbers - there are also very light Berbers with blonde hair and blue eyes.

We don't even know for sure if Monet is Berber. She may be Arabic or she may have an East African heritage. Who knows. Berber is a good guess since it makes up 80% of the population of Algeria.

Her father has been portrayed alternatively as white and black, so that's up in the air. Speaking French is a hold over from colonial times, so that's not exactly a sign of ethnicity, so much as culture.

We do know that her father's earliest appearances make him a white French military man and later appearances towards the end of the run show him as black. And her brother was shown as very dark with dreadlocks.

To me, Monet and her siblings have always been portrayed as far more "Africoid" than anything else. Her brother even has dreadlocks! I like it when she has nice, rich brown skin the color of cocoa. A little lighter is fine too, but its not nice when they color her the shade one might associate with an Italian or Greek. It goes against her earlier representations from Gen X, which I think would be her standard.

The Berbers are a Mediterranean people much like Egyptians, Spaniards and Sicilians. So, yes, she could look Italian or Greek. I believe that look is too light in comparison to her initial appearances, but it is an accurate portrayal of someone of her ethnicity.

My favorite Monet is definitely Bachalo's from early Generation X though!

One of Monet's earliest appearances in UXM by Joe Mad:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/112165-73478-m_super.jpg

Whatever Monet's ethnic background, she is one of my favorite characters and kicks butt! :biggrin:

[Yogaflame]

Umm Algeria is another story though 97% of the population is classified as Berber-Arab, anyway her skin being brown can pretty much change shades drastically depending on how much time she spends in the sun.

Berber-Arab is a contradictory term coined by racist Eurocentrists. The original Berbers are quite distinct from 'Arabs', predating that culture by thousands of years in the area. 'Arabs' are mixed peoples who started living in North Africa/the Middle East largely since the spread of Islam in the middle ages. Even from a generous date of 1600BC(with the influx of Semites), native Berber culture extends to 10,000BC and beyond, when the Sahara was an huge inland sea, not desert. In this way, the Berbers are far more closely aligned with the ancient people of KMT, Dogon and West Africa, who separated when Lake Chad began to shrink about 5,000 years ago, creating the 'separation' between Saharan Africa and sub-Saharan Africa.

[ExodusCloak]

Berber-Arab is a contradictory term coined by racist Eurocentrists. The original Berbers are quite distinct from 'Arabs', predating that culture by thousands of years in the area. 'Arabs' are mixed peoples who started living in North Africa/the Middle East largely since the spread of Islam in the middle ages. Even from a generous date of 1600BC(with the influx of Semites), native Berber culture extends to 10,000BC and beyond, when the Sahara was an huge inland sea, not desert. In this way, the Berbers are far more closely aligned with the ancient people of KMT, Dogon and West Africa, who separated when Lake Chad began to shrink about 5,000 years ago, creating the 'separation' between Saharan Africa and sub-Saharan Africa.

Maybe they are if you trace the genology backwards, but on a phenotype level the vast majority of the population of Algeria post the arrival and growth of Islam share very similar features with people from countries like Libya and the Middle East.

http://www.goalvideoz.com/images/players/59194saifi.jpg
http://images.google.ie/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&q=algerian&btnG=Search+Images
http://images.google.ie/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&q=people+of+algeria&btnG=Search+Images

But then again, like everywhere in the world you can all types of people in different shapes, sizes etc...and M's change in skin tone can be put down to Sun Block and wearing caps.

Here's Samir Nasri the Arsenal Football player who's of Algerian Decent but was born in France after his parents moved there. I'm just throwing this in because I like Arsenal.
http://images.google.ie/images?q=samir%20nasri&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

[timbox]

Is Monet from Earth? Yes or no?

[Slung]

Is Monet from Earth? Yes or no?

Define "Earth".

[Yogaflame]

Maybe they are if you trace the genology backwards, but on a phenotype level the vast majority of the population of Algeria post the arrival and growth of Islam share very similar features with people from countries like Libya and the Middle East.

But then again, like everywhere in the world you can all types of people in different shapes, sizes etc...and M's change in skin tone can be put down to Sun Block and wearing caps.



Berbers look like this:


http://bp2.blogger.com/_h5L0bq0pIhY/SALkdk_k4EI/AAAAAAAAA_U/9-s5syBukCI/s320/Black_Berbers.jpg


http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Egypt/Berbers.jpg

Yes, there are a lot of lighter, more "European" looking people that have co-mingled with the indigenous Berbers and are called Berbers, as well as Arabs who are mistakenily called Berber or North African, but they are all travellers who have since settled (to put it tactfully coughinvaderscough). The natives of North Africa are very dark indeed.

And while sun exposure can create more melanin, the change in people of color is not as drastic as European types, who can change several degrees of value depending on sun exposure. Put one of those above pictured Berbers in a vault for a month without sunlight and they won't magically turn the complexion of Carmen Elecktra. It doesn't work like that.

M was always portrayed very dark in the Gen X run, usually the same palatte as Synch or Storm. Like so....


http://tentative.net/mfiles/interior/monetmarius.jpg

Here is one with her brother Marius too.

Its cool to change color a little bit, but some of her appearances in X-Factor have been far too drastic, and PAD even defended that portrayal with "no one's ever really said her race".

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/X-Men2006withoutdeadpool.JPG/500px-X-Men2006withoutdeadpool.JPG

Monet has always been shown to be a dark, African girl with global sophistication. This should be continued. That's all I am saying.

[Starleafgirl]

I didn't read the whole thread but I read/skimmed this page and...

Is Monet from Earth? Yes or no?

Her body is.



Kidding, kidding. :D Anyhow...


M was always portrayed very dark in the Gen X run, usually the same palatte as Synch or Storm. Like so....

http://tentative.net/mfiles/interior/monetmarius.jpg

Here is one with her brother Marius too.

Not always! Check out some very early issues... she's got a lighter tone -- not only "brown" per se... it's difficult to describe. Marius wasn't always that dark, either... I remember the flashback to when he was all angsty over his mutant powers manifesting and then killing his mom. He still looked African-ish but I wouldn't say he was all that dark...

Some Lighter Early Monet:
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/41000/40460/196575-m_400.gif
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/245007-157661-hollow_super.JPG
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/112150-157277-m_super.JPG

In any case, I've always appreciated Monet as a woman of color. Just what shade of color, well... :rolleyes:

[Magneto X]

Berbers look like this:


http://bp2.blogger.com/_h5L0bq0pIhY/SALkdk_k4EI/AAAAAAAAA_U/9-s5syBukCI/s320/Black_Berbers.jpg

http://tentative.net/mfiles/interior/monetmarius.jpg

Here is one with her brother Marius too.

Its cool to change color a little bit, but some of her appearances in X-Factor have been far too drastic, and PAD even defended that portrayal with "no one's ever really said her race".

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/X-Men2006withoutdeadpool.JPG/500px-X-Men2006withoutdeadpool.JPG

Monet has always been shown to be a dark, African girl with global sophistication. This should be continued. That's all I am saying.

That sounds like a good plan. Good for a more inclusive-looking Marvel as well.

[jarrod]

Monet's skin tone has always fluctuated... it does seem to be noticably lighter in X-Factor than it was Generation X. Early Gen X was more middle ground though, she was overtly darkened later on and her father's race retconned entirely.

With X-Factor, I think they're likely attempting to be truer to her regional heritage and might have reretconned her father's race back to caucasian... might be nice to see PAD weigh in on it on panel. Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing PAD deal with Monet's complicated family background either, it could definitely use some fixing up...

[Starleafgirl]

With X-Factor, I think they're likely attempting to be truer to her regional heritage and might have reretconned her father's race back to caucasian... might be nice to see PAD weigh in on it on panel. Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing PAD deal with Monet's complicated family background either, it could definitely use some fixing up...

Rofl, "reretconned" ? Can they do that? As if it wasn't complicated enough! :biggrin:

And yeah, let's see a family photo with Mom, Dad, Marius, Monet, and the twins. That'll put an end to this debate... at least, until they rereretcon. Unreretcon? :)

[Slung]

Berbers look like this:

Yes, there are a lot of lighter, more "European" looking people that have co-mingled with the indigenous Berbers and are called Berbers, as well as Arabs who are mistakenily called Berber or North African, but they are all travellers who have since settled (to put it tactfully coughinvaderscough). The natives of North Africa are very dark indeed.

And while sun exposure can create more melanin, the change in people of color is not as drastic as European types, who can change several degrees of value depending on sun exposure. Put one of those above pictured Berbers in a vault for a month without sunlight and they won't magically turn the complexion of Carmen Elecktra. It doesn't work like that.

M was always portrayed very dark in the Gen X run, usually the same palatte as Synch or Storm. Like so....


From my understanding, Berbers were lighter skinned and inhabited the Northern part of Africa. And "Moor" was just a word the Spanish used to describe the people from the North African and Middle Eastern countries. I could be wrong however. That being said, today, there are so many different shades of people who live in that area.

With Arabic, Eastern African and Europeans all migrating in the Berbers' lands, they have a wide shade of skin color today. Which means, Monet could be whatever color the artist chooses. And her siblings could be darker or lighter than her as well. I like her early GenX complexion best.

[Yogaflame]

From my understanding, Berbers were lighter skinned and inhabited the Northern part of Africa. And "Moor" was just a word the Spanish used to describe the people from the North African and Middle Eastern countries. I could be wrong however. That being said, today, there are so many different shades of people who live in that area.

With Arabic, Eastern African and Europeans all migrating in the Berbers' lands, they have a wide shade of skin color today. Which means, Monet could be whatever color the artist chooses. And her siblings could be darker or lighter than her as well. I like her early GenX complexion best.


Yeah, your history there is a little off. First of all, as I described in my first two posts, the Berbers are the native Africans who have inhabited the lands for over 10,000 years, their artwork from Tassili, Algeria depicting the moister, savannah-like climate of those times. When the climate shifted dramatically and the area we know as the Sahara dried up, the peoples split up, some going south and west(Dogon, Akan, Yoruba, etc), some hugging the Mediterranean directly north(Cathage, and other groups), and some heading east(to the Nile, KMT). They were all dark skinned people.

Moors are those same peoples who, in the dark ages of Europe, brought civilization, the arts, science and bathing to the continent from their empire based in Spain and Portugal. This epoch also marked an incursion of Arabs, as the Moors were largely converted to Islam, but the name actually derives from the 3rd century BC Algerian kingdom of Maures. Mauros in Greek means very dark or black.

You are correct in stating the term Moor is applied to both Arabs and Berbers, just as Berbers is applied to native north Africans and Arabs, so there is certainly a lot of chance for confusion. A wide range of ethnicities and cultures do certainly occupy northern Africa.

As for M, however, below are images from Monet's first appearances in Uncanny X-Men 316, 317, and X-Men 37. Notice her skintone in comparison to both Storm and Synch. The second image are pages from Gen x 7 and 4. Again we can compare her richly brown skintone compared to Jubilee(Chinese American), Skin( Latino American) and Synch (African American). She and Synch are nearly the same, whereas she is much darker than both Skin and Jubilee. She is also depicted as nearly the same color as Gateway, a native Australian who is consistently very dark in color.

As a biracial person myself, I understand that people of mixed ethnicities can come in a spectrum of hues, that is not the point. The point is that Monet, from her very inception and through the vast majority of Gen X and various appearances since, is a darker skinned woman. And that image I posted in my last post, with all the newer X-people, shows her as far too pale, and that has happened several times in X-Factor. I don't have the issue with me, but I swear, there was one issue where she kept on getting paler and paler every page, and sometimes she is colored the same as Siryn, who is a red-haired Irish lass!

http://photos-151.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v322/123/10/39607151/n39607151_33260779_2625.jpg

http://photos-151.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v322/123/10/39607151/n39607151_33260780_3002.jpg

[SayOcean]

Im agreeing with Yoga M has always been drawn a typical black girl, Look at her brother, and the M twins they all looked black, I find it disturbing that PAD would say that, do you have a link or something

nice pic scans yoga

[Leirus]

From my understanding, Berbers were lighter skinned and inhabited the Northern part of Africa. And "Moor" was just a word the Spanish used to describe the people from the North African and Middle Eastern countries. I could be wrong however. That being said, today, there are so many different shades of people who live in that area.

With Arabic, Eastern African and Europeans all migrating in the Berbers' lands, they have a wide shade of skin color today. Which means, Monet could be whatever color the artist chooses. And her siblings could be darker or lighter than her as well. I like her early GenX complexion best.

Yep, In Spain we call moors to any people from north africa, and by extension to everyone from islamic faith, even when they are persians or turks... It is a normal word currently in use and usually does not have a negative meaning (What I mean, is not like "Nigger")...

And yes, around the mediterranean see the people have a wider veriety of skin shades then in, say, Norway... I have friends who can pass easily for moors and usually the people think I am english (and that pisses me off a lot, because I can not try to be a cool exotic latin men when I travel groargs)

So M could, in fairness, be really light or a lot darker... with limits, she could not be as dark as Storm, for example... It depens on her familiar background, and we do not have enough info about that (his father is a human chamaleon...)

[That JonoGuy]

I have no problem with M's current look. She still looks like a woman of color to me. I guess some people just want to make her darker than what she is.

[Slung]

Yeah, your history there is a little off. First of all, as I described in my first two posts, the Berbers are the native Africans who have inhabited the lands for over 10,000 years, their artwork from Tassili, Algeria depicting the moister, savannah-like climate of those times. When the climate shifted dramatically and the area we know as the Sahara dried up, the peoples split up, some going south and west(Dogon, Akan, Yoruba, etc), some hugging the Mediterranean directly north(Cathage, and other groups), and some heading east(to the Nile, KMT). They were all dark skinned people.

Moors are those same peoples who, in the dark ages of Europe, brought civilization, the arts, science and bathing to the continent from their empire based in Spain and Portugal. This epoch also marked an incursion of Arabs, as the Moors were largely converted to Islam, but the name actually derives from the 3rd century BC Algerian kingdom of Maures. Mauros in Greek means very dark or black.

You are correct in stating the term Moor is applied to both Arabs and Berbers, just as Berbers is applied to native north Africans and Arabs, so there is certainly a lot of chance for confusion. A wide range of ethnicities and cultures do certainly occupy northern Africa.


This really isn't hear or there, but I did a little more research on the Berbers and everything I've read, is that yes, the Berbers were a North African group that lived for thousands of years in the area and are traditionally understood as a lighter group more akin to the Mediterranean peoples or Egyptians. and why wouldn't they - they live right next to the Mediterranean and Egypt. Makes sense. The intermingling with other African races, arabs and Europeans has, of course, affected the group. It doesn't really matter to me either way, but from what I've read just now in thirty minutes of googling, that seems to be the case. Of course, this could be incorrect, but this is from a couple encyclopedia excerpts and then a message board of Algerian people. So take it as you will. Its weird cause I don't even care. I just wanted to know what the truth was.

It seems: Monet should be darker than Rictor and lighter than Storm.

[Leirus]

This really isn't hear or there, but I did a little more research on the Berbers and everything I've read, is that yes, the Berbers were a North African group that lived for thousands of years in the area and are traditionally understood as a lighter group more akin to the Mediterranean peoples or Egyptians. and why wouldn't they - they live right next to the Mediterranean and Egypt. Makes sense. The intermingling with other African races, arabs and Europeans has, of course, affected the group. It doesn't really matter to me either way, but from what I've read just now in thirty minutes of googling, that seems to be the case. Of course, this could be incorrect, but this is from a couple encyclopedia excerpts and then a message board of Algerian people. So take it as you will. Its weird cause I don't even care. I just wanted to know what the truth was.

It seems: Monet should be darker than Rictor and lighter than Storm.

Lol,but then again, how dark should Rictor be? Mexicans can be pretty dark or light, depending on the amount of indigenous or spanish blood they have... that is not the same for everyone !! :smile: Probably the only group of persons who tends to be the same shade of white is the anglosaxons & descendents, because they tend to not mix with other folks...:wink:

[Starleafgirl]

Lol,but then again, how dark should Rictor be? Mexicans can be pretty dark or light, depending on the amount of indigenous or spanish blood they have... that is not the same for everyone !! :smile: Probably the only group of persons who tends to be the same shade of white is the anglosaxons & descendents, because they tend to not mix with other folks...:wink:

Err, or as soon as anglosaxons mix, they're called something else, like biracial. Mixed blood. Not Anglo-Saxon. Plus, Mexican (and Algerian) is a nationality, not an ethnicity. There are white Jamacians.

I agree with you about different shades of Mexicans, though; you reminded me that that is the case (I tend to think of only one light-ish shade for that group).

[Slung]

Lol,but then again, how dark should Rictor be? Mexicans can be pretty dark or light, depending on the amount of indigenous or spanish blood they have... that is not the same for everyone !! :smile: Probably the only group of persons who tends to be the same shade of white is the anglosaxons & descendents, because they tend to not mix with other folks...:wink:

I just randomly picked someone who is probably darker than Syrin (but strangely has always been very white looking).

[Justin K.]

Monet and Siryn are the ultimate Dynamic Duo :biggrin:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/Notahooker.jpg

[That JonoGuy]

Monet and Siryn are the ultimate Dynamic Duo :biggrin:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/Notahooker.jpg

I adore those two. I would have never imagined they would be so good together. I want a mini series starring those two. Hell, give me an ongoing.

I can't wait till M has to babysit.

[Justin K.]

I adore those two. I would have never imagined they would be so good together. I want a mini series starring those two. Hell, give me an ongoing.

I can't wait till M has to babysit.


Agree :biggrin: Plus Monet does have some respect for Siryn too. Those two in one book would kick ass. I'd buy, as long as it isn't Stroman doing the art (*shudders*). Raimondi would be so perfect for that...

Another moment I like with the two

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/SirynandMonet2.jpg

[Slung]

Monet and Syrin are pretty cool together.

I miss Monet and Jubilee and Monet and Emma Frost's interactions a little too though.

It was obvious seeing Monet always out-snark Emma.

[Justin K.]

Monet and Syrin are pretty cool together.

I miss Monet and Jubilee and Monet and Emma Frost's interactions a little too though.

It was obvious seeing Monet always out-snark Emma.

Agree :biggrin:
I miss Bachalo and Generation X :frown:

[Starleafgirl]

I adore those two. I would have never imagined they would be so good together. I want a mini series starring those two. Hell, give me an ongoing.

I can't wait till M has to babysit.

You've already got an ongoing, now pray that X-Factor stays good. :rolleyes:

The two of them together like that makes me wish Siryn had visited her father at the Massachuttes Academy and kicked butt with Generation X for an arc. :biggrin:

I'd also like to see M babysitting. :evilsmile:

Monet and Syrin are pretty cool together.

I miss Monet and Jubilee and Monet and Emma Frost's interactions a little too though.

It was obvious seeing Monet always out-snark Emma.

Yes, I'd like to see M make a condescending comment to Jubes about her New Warriors gig or out-snark Emma in Uncanny X-Men.

Agree
I miss Bachalo and Generation X

Agreed. :frown:

[Justin K.]

You've already got an ongoing, now pray that X-Factor stays good.

The two of them together like that makes me wish Siryn had visited her father at the Massachuttes Academy and kicked butt with Generation X for an arc.

I'd also like to see M babysitting. :evilsmile:

Yes, I'd like to see M make a condescending comment to Jubes about her New Warriors gig or out-snark Emma in Uncanny X-Men.

Agreed. :frown:

Time to reminisce (not sure how you spell that word) :smile:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7b/Twin_ms.jpg/180px-Twin_ms.jpg

[Yogaflame]

This really isn't hear or there, but I did a little more research on the Berbers and everything I've read, is that yes, the Berbers were a North African group that lived for thousands of years in the area and are traditionally understood as a lighter group more akin to the Mediterranean peoples or Egyptians. and why wouldn't they - they live right next to the Mediterranean and Egypt. Makes sense. The intermingling with other African races, arabs and Europeans has, of course, affected the group. It doesn't really matter to me either way, but from what I've read just now in thirty minutes of googling, that seems to be the case. Of course, this could be incorrect, but this is from a couple encyclopedia excerpts and then a message board of Algerian people. So take it as you will. Its weird cause I don't even care. I just wanted to know what the truth was.



I find it amusing that you compare Egyptians with Mediterranean(which I take to mean Greeks, Italians and the like, no?) The ancient people of KMT(that's the real name kids, which translates to mean "The Black People" or "Land of the Black People" ). A lot of energy has been spent on trying to whitewash the people of KMT, so I am sure your diligent research through Google brought up the typical, Eurocentric misinformation, but they were Black Africans, make no mistake. Here is a picture from ancient KMT showing themselves and other peoples:

http://www.geocities.com/wally_mo/Egypt_files/image004.jpg

The first person is an Egyptian, the second, a Semite, the third, a Nubian, and the fourth, a European. This is taken from Ramesses III's tomb walls, so even in the New Kingdom, the people of KMT self-identified as black African.

[Leirus]

I adore those two. I would have never imagined they would be so good together. I want a mini series starring those two. Hell, give me an ongoing.

I can't wait till M has to babysit.

OOOOhhh M babysitting !! Great idea !! Have we been told when the baby is due?

[Justin K.]

OOOOhhh M babysitting !! Great idea !! Have we been told when the baby is due?

I read somewhere Siryn is due 3 weeks early in X-factor #38

[Slung]

I find it amusing that you compare Egyptians with Mediterranean(which I take to mean Greeks, Italians and the like, no?) The ancient people of KMT(that's the real name kids, which translates to mean "The Black People" or "Land of the Black People" ). A lot of energy has been spent on trying to whitewash the people of KMT, so I am sure your diligent research through Google brought up the typical, Eurocentric misinformation, but they were Black Africans, make no mistake. Here is a picture from ancient KMT showing themselves and other peoples:

http://www.geocities.com/wally_mo/Egypt_files/image004.jpg

The first person is an Egyptian, the second, a Semite, the third, a Nubian, and the fourth, a European. This is taken from Ramesses III's tomb walls, so even in the New Kingdom, the people of KMT self-identified as black African.

30 minutes of googling is hardly extensive. Although the Berber people discussing this with Arabs and Westerners on a message board seemed to suggest something different than what your saying. As did the encyclopedias I clicked on. But then another article suggested something different and then another something different. So make of that as you will. And yes, I read about people trying to "whitewash" it. I also read about people trying to do the opposite. I don't know if you have some sort of vested interest in this or what. I do not. I merely have been commenting that Monet isn't A) African-American and IS B) North African and thus her looks should reflect that unique heritage. Because that is cool too.

You've been talking historically about what a Berber is. But wait...If we are talking about today: which WE ARE, Berbers ARE closer to Arabic or Mediterranean people. Who CARES what color they were 8 thousand years ago (Egyptians have been both white and black as well depending on which time period we're talking about). We are talking about Monet, a modern day character. And today Berbers are more Mediterranean or Arabic. Yes, they can have dark skin. More often than not, they have lighter skin than people from lower African countries. Hence, Monet can look either way. And has. Her father is white. Her dream vision of her brother looked African-American. Then her father was black. Then Monet looked black. Then Monet looked Mediterranean.

So I guess this is one of those moments where I say "I don't care" and move on.

[Justin K.]

30 minutes of googling is hardly extensive. Although the Berber people discussing this with Arabs and Westerners on a message board seemed to suggest something different than what your saying. As did the encyclopedias I clicked on. And yes, I read about people trying to "whitewash" it. I also read about people trying to do the opposite. I don't know if you have some sort of vested interest in this or what. I do not. I merely have been commenting that Monet isn't A) African-American and IS B) North African and thus her looks should reflect that unique heritage. Because that is cool too.

You've been talking historically about what a Berber is. But wait...If we are talking about today: which WE ARE, Berbers ARE closer to Arabic or Mediterranean people. Who CARES what color they were 8 thousand years ago (Egyptians have been both white and black as well depending on which time period we're talking about). We are talking about Monet, a modern day character. And today Berbers are more Mediterranean or Arabic. Yes, they can have dark skin. More often than not, they have lighter skin than people from lower African countries. Hence, Monet can look either way. And has. Her father is white. Her dream vision of her brother looked African-American. Then her father was black. Then Monet looked black. Then Monet looked Mediterranean.

So I guess this is one of those moments where I say "I don't care" and move on.

UGH! I just came home from school, don't need to learn more about history here on CBR :frown:

[Slung]

UGH! I just came home from school, don't need to learn more about history here on CBR :frown:

Sorry, I really have no idea what I'm even talking about - as evidenced by my babbling. Can't we all except that Monet is just cool whether a lighter or darker shade?

[Justin K.]

Sorry, I really have no idea what I'm even talking about - as evidenced by my babbling. Can't we all except that Monet is just cool whether a lighter or darker shade?

Agree :biggrin:
Screw in depth details
Bad enough they're giving each x-man an origin story (Wolverine, original five, xavier in legacy). Monet rocks.
After seeing the X-factor #38 cover, I'm glad she's on it. :smile:
Glad to see she's on a cover, it all can't be madrox (even though he's in the backdrop). Monet deserves to shine dammit! :tongue:

[elixir86]

FOR ALL THE MONET FANS!!!!
WE NEED YOUR HELP
on Uncannyxmen.net there's a game going on called "Marvel Voting Thing that will last forever"....Monet is currently at the 4th place, but we need ur help to gain more position! We need to take out silver surfer and Doctor Doom and we need your help!!! So please registrer and partecipate!!!
SAVE MONET!!

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4018

[Slung]

FOR ALL THE MONET FANS!!!!
WE NEED YOUR HELP
on [some site] there's a game going on called "Marvel Voting Thing that will last forever"....Monet is currently at the 4th place, but we need ur help to gain more position! We need to take out silver surfer and Doctor Doom and we need your help!!! So please registrer and partecipate!!!
SAVE MONET!!

I would...but, its not a happy place for Jean Grey fans.

[Greg Anderson]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/terry3906/scans_daily/x-factor-21-10.jpg
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[Starleafgirl]

Ah, yes, the "Monet doggie breath barf" moment. That's funny, but somehow I find it difficult to believe refined and cultured Monet St. Croix would talk like that...

[psycwave]

Dear Monet Fans,
The perfect man for Monet St. Croix is Jesse Aaronson aka Bedlam. That is all.
Psycwave


We must revive him!!!

[x_goalkeeper]

Monet St. Croix is awesome... love her interactions with Madrox, Siryn, Rahne, and Layla. Though she was a bit too subdued in Messiah Complex...

[coconutphone]

Can't wait to see how Monet deals with the impending baby.

[Justin K.]

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/X-Factor%20Moments/AngryMonet.jpg

Don't piss off Monet :tongue:

[x_goalkeeper]

Haha, never mess with Monet!

[Justin K.]

Even though Monet is awesome, I thought this was her worst costume :frown:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/monet-bigcostume4.jpg

[La Fea]

Monet St. Croix is awesome... love her interactions with Madrox, Siryn, Rahne, and Layla. Though she was a bit too subdued in Messiah Complex...

Yes.

Despite a lovely, Bachalo drawn conversation with Warpath, her appearances in Messiah Complex were very disappointing! She even let some Emma snark go without so much an eye roll!!!!!!!!

I want to see my girl Monet interacting with more X-Characters, even though I like the family she's built within X-Factor.

[Greg Anderson]

Even though Monet is awesome, I thought this was her worst costume :frown:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/monet-bigcostume4.jpg

Still sexy, though.

[Justin K.]

Still sexy, though.

It'd be perfection without the white thingies and if she had different footwear
Agreed though :smile:

[x_goalkeeper]

Yes.

Despite a lovely, Bachalo drawn conversation with Warpath, her appearances in Messiah Complex were very disappointing! She even let some Emma snark go without so much an eye roll!!!!!!!!



At least one little snark from Monet and and an eye roll and I would've been happy... but not even that happened!

[Justin K.]

At least one little snark from Monet and and an eye roll and I would've been happy... but not even that happened!

Surprised she showed sympathy to Warpath :eek:
The Monet I know is usually not sympathetic... except when Banshee died
that got her down (he was her teacher)

[Cicero]

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/X-Factor%20Moments/AngryMonet.jpg

Is her t-shirt bulletproof, or did she knock the bullets from the air with her hands? Her shirt ought have holes in it following this scene if the bullets were deflected by her chest, but it doesn't.

[Yogaflame]

In the old days it was cool just to say the clothes had been treated with unstable molecules. :confused:

[La Fea]

Surprised she showed sympathy to Warpath :eek:
The Monet I know is usually not sympathetic... except when Banshee died
that got her down (he was her teacher)

I loved it as long as she doesn't make a habit out of it.

It was nice for a once-a-year type thing.

[Leirus]

I loved it as long as she doesn't make a habit out of it.

It was nice for a once-a-year type thing.

It is me or you have been a long time out? Welcome !!

I think there are some characters who should not have many times of being down or self-loathing... Emma and M are two perfect examples...

[x_goalkeeper]

Surprised she showed sympathy to Warpath :eek:
The Monet I know is usually not sympathetic... except when Banshee died
that got her down (he was her teacher)

Well, Monet isn't that cold... so I can understand that one

[Justin K.]

Well, Monet isn't that cold... so I can understand that one

True, she shows she's not a complete snob and is friends with Siryn, and like mentioned earlier, was sad about Banshee's death. I liek the fact that she developed from a one dimensional snob to a more rounder character. :smile:

[Cicero]

In the old days it was cool just to say the clothes had been treated with unstable molecules. :confused:

I thought about that, but it doesn't really fit with what we've seen of other X-Men being shot while wearing unstable molecule costumes; the costumes tend to rip where the bullets hit.

[That JonoGuy]

Even though Monet is awesome, I thought this was her worst costume :frown:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/monet-bigcostume4.jpg

I never understood the fuss about that costume. I quite liked it.

[x_goalkeeper]

Even though Monet is awesome, I thought this was her worst costume :frown:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/monet-bigcostume4.jpg

It is kind of weird... superhero costume with an apron-looking skirt around it?

[Greg Anderson]

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3286/monet013uc.jpg

[Justin K.]

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3286/monet013uc.jpg

HA! the look on Rictor's face :tongue:

[SayOcean]

i bet he was thinking....if only she had one more piece of equipment

[Kaos]

i bet he was thinking....if only she had one more piece of equipment

Nah. He's down with the poo-tang.

[Justin K.]

I loved it as long as she doesn't make a habit out of it.

It was nice for a once-a-year type thing.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/MonetSad1.jpg

[Starleafgirl]

Does anyone know which issue shows a white Cartier St. Croix sipping tea or whatnot, then a robotic thing (Orphanmaker?) gets his arm cut off by Cartier's mysterious, high-tech security system?

I was looking for that when I came across of a couple of very interesting M tidbits. First, in Generation X #16, M defeated Synch by telling him to synchronize his aura to her abilities. Synch, having super-strength and whatnot, says that he already has, but then M says that he hasn't. She says that that's only the after-effect of her mutant power.

Since we now know that this is the twins posing as M (and, keep in mind at that point, that there was no real M), we know that M's "perfectness" power is really a bunch of after-effects (super strength, flying, telepathy, etc.) of combining two powered beings into one (as we later saw with M-Plate, a combined being's powers are sometimes different from and more powerful than those of its parts).

I think it's interesting to note that this makes M just as much a freak among mutants as the rest of the cast (and hey, maybe having a mutagenic vampire for a brother is kind of freakish too) and that, despite appears, she really does fit in with the rest of the Generation X team. Of course, they took that aspect of her character away when they decided to make a real M who, surprise surprise, really is "perfect" (I won't even get into the various ways it hurt the character of Penance...).

Anyway, M says that Emplate was never able to feast on her genetic marrow. I think the writer's implying that's because she's just too powerful as a combined being, but it could also be just because of that rule sometimes that mutant powers don't work on siblings, lol. While Synch's aura is "looking for purchase within her genetic resonance" (God I love old Gen X's writing lol), his face betrays his "shock and horror -- as the truth unfolds before him!" And then he cries out.

So, like, Synch knew even back in issue #16 that there was something seriously different about M. Wonder if he ever said anything.

The other thing I noticed is in Generation X #17, though I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned in this thread before. M (or the twins posing as M, actually) is able to telepathically (and quite violently) repel Emma's mind probe. I'm sure Emma wasn't pulling any punches, either, considering she knows M's telepathic.

So that shows the twins, as M, might be on par or, with proper training, be able to surpass Emma Frost's telepathic abilities (and isn't she supposed to be the most powerful telepath left?). Why they didn't bring them over for New X-Men is beyond me, but maybe Cartier just wanted them to have a normal life (or he had a precog on retainer that told him how that was going to end with death every other month, lol).

Right next to Emplate's entry in the new hardcover handbook series is Holly-Ann Ember. Not sure if she's a mutant, but Storm gave her Charles Xavier's business card... guessin' she might be about Julie Power's age by now? It's just really sad how they leave all these characters lying around and then only turn around to create new ones. Holly-Ann Ember could've shown up in New X-Men, too. Just think what havoc they (the writers) could've wrecked with a limited-ability reality-warper. :P

Wouldn't it be interesting, just for a story arc or so, to have the other M in X-Factor, too? One with (presumably) greater telepathic ability (due to being two very powerful little girls stuck together?) and a better vocabulary? One that isn't boney skinny and isn't liable to sing she's too sexy for her robe? :tongue:

And everyone likes this more reserved, less obnoxious M better until she zones out at a key moment, making everyone realize they should be appreciating their M more (who flies in to save the day?). ;)

It'd be very odd for everyone else to try to figure out which one's which at any one time. It'd be funny for twins-M to deliver a crushing one-liner and make someone realize she's not all that different from the real M... :rolleyes:

One reason I can think they'd show up is to help defend Madrox and Siryn's baby from Emplate. Unless of course their baby isn't a mutant, in which case, nevermind. In either case, at the end, someone would probably say "Thank God that's over, having one Monet around is hard enough!" :rolleyes:

But with M & M and multiple Madroxes running around...? Oh, I think there's some fun to be had. Certainly brings an all-new meaning to the phrase "double date." Also, would the twins-M be attracted to Madrox at all...? Hmm.

Sigh. It's nice to imagine this but not so nice to realize it'll never happen. :tongue: True, they've never said how M-Day affected the M Twins or Emplate, but I have a feeling that explaining the twins' powers (which include dimensional stuff and the whole gestalt/merging thing) is more than PAD wants to do. Of course, he could just leave it vague and have everyone who doesn't know the character assuming M's got a twin. That'd be funny.

Emplate's available, by the way. According to his official bio, he "presumably escaped" during the riot at the school. I believe there was still a gaping hole left there from Penny's escape and, besides, you know D.O.A. could scrape up the resources to free his boss at such a turbulent time.

Things happened so quickly at the end that they never said whether Cartier St. Croix took Emplate home when he came to visit and took the twins home (which I always presumed) or that he escaped at some point. All Cartier St. Croix actually said in that issue was that he was going to talk with his son to finally settle things with him.

Annnnnd... cue the creepy flashback of Marius killing dear old dead Mom. So I'm guessin' that conversation didn't go as well as he'd hoped.

[SailorCallie]

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3286/monet013uc.jpg

That is so Naked Gun 2 1/2! :biggrin:

[x_goalkeeper]

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/MonetSad1.jpg

I noticed in the 3rd panel that M reminded me of Negasonic Teenage Warhead :eek: