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08-09-2006, 07:41 AM
ANNIHILATION #1 (!!!), Giffen & DiVito, out today . . .

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I can't do a detailed review at the moment, so I'll just hit the high points.


Beautiful carnage, courtesy of Mr. DiVito.
Sparkling dialogue, courtesy of Mr. Giffen.
Nova and Gamora, gettin' it on.
Firelord, kickin' bug-chick ass.
Galactus and the Surfer throw down with Tenebrous and Aegis as Thanos looks on, smiling.
One heck of a "we are so screwed" cliffhanger for Nova and company.

Aaaaah, ANNIHILATION. Worth every penny.

Soundrave
08-09-2006, 07:54 AM
Sounds great! I didn't see the Nova / Gamora coupling coming . . .

Did you also pick up the Corps Files? If so, how was the content in that?

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08-09-2006, 07:59 AM
I picked it up, but I haven't really looked at it yet.

drwho
08-09-2006, 08:13 AM
I picked it up, but I haven't really looked at it yet.

Did you get a preview issue or does your comic store really open this early already with thier books?

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08-09-2006, 08:17 AM
A little from column A, a little from column B.

Soundrave
08-09-2006, 08:25 AM
A little from column A, a little from column B.


Translation: he threw a brick through the window, broke into the shop, and stole it
(John Byrne reading issues on the shelf and not buying them doesn't quite as egregious anymore, does it?)

Elegance Liberty
08-09-2006, 08:39 AM
GUH, my LCS doesn't open for another hour now. D=

Nova/Gamorra? Huh... I always though Gamorra was with Adam Warlock. Oooooh, Gamorra you playa. >=D

This gonna be AWESOME. With DiVito*art... it's gonna be like paradise.

aniscape
08-09-2006, 09:45 AM
GUH, my LCS doesn't open for another hour now. D=

Nova/Gamorra? Huh... I always though Gamorra was with Adam Warlock. Oooooh, Gamorra you playa. >=D

This gonna be AWESOME. With DiVito*art... it's gonna be like paradise.


Just wait till Warlock gets wind of that :eek: Super Nova vs. Warlock I would love to see that match up!

Elegance Liberty
08-09-2006, 10:33 AM
Just braved the rain to get the comic and the handbook-thing.

My quick thoughts:

- Is it wrong of me to want to smack Cammi across the face? She got pretty annoying rather quick.

- Damn, Gamora's hot. How in the heck did Nova end up in bed with her?

- Peter's funny. =D

- Woah, what happened to Firelord?

- DUDE! Galactus kicking ass! Never thought I'd see that before!

- DOUBLE CRAP! Galactus got his ass kicked!

- End of the issue NO!


Next month can't come soon enough AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH.

cappa donna
08-09-2006, 10:47 AM
- Woah, what happened to Firelord?
The power cosmic, you might've heard of it.

BTW, where the hell are the spoiler tags?

Elegance Liberty
08-09-2006, 10:58 AM
Hah hah. Well, I didn't get to read #4 of 'Annihilation: Silver Surfer' (I'll probably pick it up sometime within the next week or two), so I wasn't sure if I missed something there or not.

Plus i'm still kinda tired, so I might have glossed over something in this particular issue.

Bignasty
08-09-2006, 11:27 AM
This was such a great read. It did an incredible job of illustrating just how futile the situation really is for Nova and the United Front.

Speaking of Nova, he has come a long way from the pages of Annihilation Prologue, and I don't see him returning ever. Such a wonderful job has been done with this character!

And normally I could care less about Firelord, but even he turned out badass. It just proves that given a great story, any of these characters can turn into stars.

On an unrelated, but very disappointing note: I was unable to get the Nova Corps Files book. Apparently none of the stores in my area received enough of these. This reminds me of the Prologue, which I had to get off of E-bay. Truly enfuriating.

NMoline
08-09-2006, 11:29 AM
Are Aegis and Tenebrous Really that powerful? I mean Galactus and Surfer, two of the most powerful beings in Marvel Lore! Oh well I have a feeling Galactus and Surfer will have their revenge! This is shaping up to be the best cosmic story ever.

On a side topic I can't believe this won't cross Civil War since all the anti-reg prisoners are being sent to the negative zone which we know is Annhilus Domininon!

Elegance Liberty
08-09-2006, 11:40 AM
On a side topic I can't believe this won't cross Civil War since all the anti-reg prisoners are being sent to the negative zone which we know is Annhilus Domininon!

Good question. Has anyone asked Andy if 'Annihilation' takes place before or after 'Civil War'?

Soundrave
08-09-2006, 11:56 AM
On a side topic I can't believe this won't cross Civil War since all the anti-reg prisoners are being sent to the negative zone which we know is Annhilus Domininon!


Annihilus never controlled ALL of the Negative Zone. His dominion was always contested by rival warlords such as Blastaar and Syphonn. Plus there are vast expanses of the N-Zone not under the control of any warlord . . . it's a big place.

Expletive Deleted
08-09-2006, 12:10 PM
On a side topic I can't believe this won't cross Civil War since all the anti-reg prisoners are being sent to the negative zone which we know is Annhilus Domininon!Wait, what?

They're using the Negative Zone as a prison?

That's just . . . silly.

NMoline
08-09-2006, 12:19 PM
Annihilus never controlled ALL of the Negative Zone. His dominion was always contested by rival warlords such as Blastaar and Syphonn. Plus there are vast expanses of the N-Zone not under the control of any warlord . . . it's a big place.

First page final panel,
"From what we've been able to piece together our universe is expanding into the universe Annihilus rules -- Called the Negative Zone"
Sounds like in this story Annihilus does rule the Negative Zone.

Soundrave
08-09-2006, 12:25 PM
First page final panel,
"From what we've been able to piece together our universe is expanding into the universe Annihilus rules -- Called the Negative Zone"
Sounds like in this story Annihilus does rule the Negative Zone.

I think you're taking it too literally.

drwho
08-09-2006, 01:01 PM
All I can say is wow after reading this.

Best parts:

1. The art especially depicting the Galactus battle.

Worst parts:

1. So now are we to believe that this mini is going to totally change the characterization that we have come to know as Nova.

2. Nova sleeping with Gamora.

Elegance Liberty
08-09-2006, 01:03 PM
Just wait till Warlock gets wind of that :eek: Super Nova vs. Warlock I would love to see that match up!

Now that I have some good references of Nova and Gamora (just need some for Warlock)... fan art of that MUST happen. ;]

Soundrave
08-09-2006, 01:07 PM
2. Nova sleeping with Gamora.

Well he is "the Human Rocket."

Arilou
08-09-2006, 01:27 PM
2. Nova sleeping with Gamora.

Now I'm *really* curious about what's up with Warlock.

Honestly, things seemed to be going so well last time we saw him! (In the Thanos mini)

IMJ
08-09-2006, 01:30 PM
On an interesting note, in the Captain marvel v1 issue where he fights Thor, Captain Marvel uses Thor's hammer to expel excess energy into the negative zone, creating a new star there....
I wond if little continuity bits like this will be used in Annihilation (I can already think of a zillion great ways to incorporate that into the story...)

Hiromi
08-09-2006, 02:45 PM
Now THAT's how I want all of my super cosmic crossovers to be.

cduceil
08-09-2006, 03:03 PM
Love A#1, I'm a little concerned for the fate of the Big G and SS, they are two of my favorite characters, they both went down too, too easy, way too easy. The battle didn't even last two pages (I know it was depicted on five pages). It pains me that I have to wait until the end of Annihilation until we find out more (that's at least 6 months away).

aniscape
08-09-2006, 03:08 PM
Love A#1, I'm a little concerned for the fate of the Big G and SS, they are two of my favorite characters, they both went down too, too easy, way too easy. The battle didn't even last two pages (I know it was depicted on five pages). It pains me that I have to wait until the end of Annihilation until we find out more (that's at least 6 months away).

Who knows how long that battle went for... We were only told the final moments! I would like to think with that much cosminc strength it would have lasted at least a week :) At least it will in my mind :cool:

Sheldon
08-09-2006, 03:32 PM
This issue was awesome, you got a real feeling of how desperate things are, Nova has had some nice character growth. I can't wait for Drax to meet up with Thanos. I didn't mind how quickly SS and Galactus went down, because I have a feeling we haven't seen the end of them.

Great art, great scope, and a great cliffhanger...

jsg2295
08-09-2006, 03:50 PM
I really enjoyed this issue.
I believe they didnt have too much of the Battle scenes between the big "G" and "T&A" because there will be another battle between them.
As I got to through the issue...My mind kept screaming at me...STARSHIP TROOPERS...I havent gone through all the postings in this forum so I dont know if this has been talked about.
As for the Queen at the end ...I half expected Nazi Doogie Howser to go up to her and scream out..."Its afraid!!"

Desaad
08-09-2006, 03:58 PM
Awesome issue.

Shaping up to be a wonderful event.

Bignasty
08-09-2006, 05:10 PM
Did anyone notice that the Worldmind didn't make an "appearance" in this issue? I thought it was staying with Nova until this was all over, yet there was no mention or interaction.

aniscape
08-09-2006, 05:18 PM
Did anyone notice that the Worldmind didn't make an "appearance" in this issue? I thought it was staying with Nova until this was all over, yet there was no mention or interaction.


Yeah... wonder if something happened to it?

Also did you notice how when Nova called the strike in he stated that the Medic regrew his leg? hmm ... if they can do that why not the scar on his face?

dopexvii
08-09-2006, 05:22 PM
ahhh why do they keep screwing around with gamora's character in anihilation =@

ReigningBlood
08-09-2006, 05:36 PM
I loved the issue, and thought the art with Galactus/SS taking on Aegis and Tenebrous was amazing. Now, my only question is this; when Thanos is talking to Annihilus about discovering the biological application of cosmic power, and having it at his disposal is he refering to the Silver Surfer? I would think so.

CyberCoyote
08-09-2006, 06:29 PM
So is Thanos really working with Annihilus here? From Bug-Thingette's memories it looked like Thanos, Tene..those guys, were allowing assistance from the Wave. I don't see those two bothering to allow Annhi's intervention.

As far as them taking down galactus and the Surfer, they are both on G's level and Surfer, although powerful, is not. They were simply outmatched. I can dig that.

Oh, by the way..confirmation that Drax is just doing all this to get to Thanos? :) C'mon Mad titan. got a little sumptin for ya! :D

astronato
08-09-2006, 06:54 PM
I really enjoyed this first issue. There was a sense of dread throughout the story. The action was almost non stop yet the characters shined through. The artwork was beautiful. Giant bugs and explosions in space. It was a feast for the fanboy eye. lovely!

And by taking the two characters I had figured would end this,out in the first issue, we've been served a sweet swerve. Not what I was expecting, and that is a good thing.

I'm not up on Starlord. What happenned to him?

Already, I wish this was an ongoing.

jonwes
08-09-2006, 09:13 PM
Hmmm... last I had hear of Star-Lord was the painted series no one bought a few years back when Marvel tried to do a sci-fi line (anyone remember Seeker 3000 - anyone? I liked it.) but I looked on Wikipedia and I guess the original Star-Lord was in some Thanos series and thats where he got the cybernetic implants, etc.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/starlor1.htm

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08-09-2006, 09:15 PM
He got the cybernetic implants some time between his last series and "Samaritan" in THANOS. The whos, wheres, and whys are thus far unknown, as evidenced by the "he doesn't like to talk about it" line.

aniscape
08-09-2006, 09:45 PM
Hey ... Anyone else notice how Annihilus Quantum Powered up when he got agitated talking to Thanos? hmmm... might he be loosing control of the Quantum Bands?

Expletive Deleted
08-09-2006, 09:50 PM
The CCR is yellow, too.

Still, I guess it's possible.

Lord S
08-09-2006, 09:58 PM
I thought it was pretty good. The best part for me was seeing Thanos, (in his Darkseid stance), standing over the fallen Surfer...smiling. That was badass.

I too was disappointed in seeing, (the hot and sexy), Gamora jump in bed with Nova...I was hoping Ronan would nail her a few times before passing her back to Adam. Oh well.

Mjolnir
08-10-2006, 01:34 AM
Giant-people smack-down!

Mississippienne
08-10-2006, 01:38 AM
I too was disappointed in seeing, (the hot and sexy), Gamora jump in bed with Nova...I was hoping Ronan would nail her a few times before passing her back to Adam. Oh well.

Don't be playa-hatin', boo. Gamora is just getting her lovin' where she finds it.

Mysterio's Helmet
08-10-2006, 01:55 AM
Attention: Mr. Richard Rider. This is your booty call. Please wake up! :D

For that scene alone, Nova's going to go "over" with everybody.

Loved the issue and from the "hype" of the ending I had a feeling that the big G was the one who was going to take the fall. Thanos doing his usual stick but I can see it coming already. Drax is going to get him.

This whole Annihilation is kind of a "simile" or "metaphor" (don't know my literary text as best I should) for a changing of the guard in the cosmic Marvel Universe.

I really see Thanos and Annihilus going bye bye by the end of this storyline. I think that's where it's leading anyway.

Excellent start and I'm pimping it hardcore to anybody who'll listen.

So much better than Civil whatsitsname.....:)

Deadpooligan
08-10-2006, 03:47 AM
That was quite possibly the most epic issue I've ever read. Galactus fighting to a knockout? His poor cool helmet damaged? Silver Surfer cracked?

The only thing this is missing is Thanos in his armor. Then it'd be perfect...

overcomebyfumes
08-10-2006, 04:01 AM
It's so obvious that Thanos is going to get the secrets of the power cosmic and then turn on Annilihus and kick his chitinous ass all over creation... but I soooo want to see it happen. Can't wait.

Pax.

Arilou
08-10-2006, 06:07 AM
Yeah, Thanos smiling like that is BAD NEWS. And given how Annihilus treats him, I guess Annihilus will be on the recieving end!

Soundrave
08-10-2006, 06:15 AM
Did anyone notice that the Worldmind didn't make an "appearance" in this issue? I thought it was staying with Nova until this was all over, yet there was no mention or interaction.

It was probably too busy narrating the Nova Corps Files this week.

TinMan
08-10-2006, 07:41 AM
I am really loving this whole event, I can't wait to have every issue of Annihilation and be able to read it from beginning to end.

I'm just gonna say that most of my comments have been covered so far in the thread and that I can't wait for the next issue.

Elegance Liberty
08-10-2006, 07:45 AM
It was probably too busy narrating the Nova Corps Files this week.

Lollerskates.

I gotta say, the smackdown Tenebrous (sp?) and Aegis laid on Galactus and SS was sweet. (And I gotta say it: I LOVE Aegis' hair. Don't ask me why, I just do) Did anyone else notice how cracked up -literally- Surfer was?

As for Thanos... Annihilus better watch his back, 'cause this is one "alliance" I don't forsee lasting too much longer.

Oh MAN, between waiting for 'Annihilation #2' and Xenosaga Ep. 3, my September is going to be chock full of intergalactic space melodrama with lots of alien butt kicking. =]

aniscape
08-10-2006, 08:06 AM
Oh MAN, between waiting for 'Annihilation #2' and Xenosaga Ep. 3, my September is going to be chock full of intergalactic space melodrama with lots of alien butt kicking. =]

I couldn't have said it better myself :) Xenosaga August 29th and then Annihilation 2 a couple weeks later... Man all work is gonna do is get in the way. Man I hate being responsible :(

garin
08-10-2006, 10:06 AM
I hope Tenebrous makes it out of this alive, he is a kick-ass character design.

Jack
08-10-2006, 12:07 PM
Holey moley.

I'm late reading this, since I decided to reread the Prologue and all the minis first, in order. Took ages (damn those are some dense books) but it was so worth it; I enjoyed Annihilation #1 so much more.

BeastieRunner
08-10-2006, 01:50 PM
That was *&%#^*@!!!! awesome!! Best. Event. Ever. And that was only a #1. :eek:

jsg2295
08-10-2006, 01:55 PM
I hope Tenebrous makes it out of this alive, he is a kick-ass character design.
From what I understand "T&A" are going to be around for awhile.

BeastieRunner
08-10-2006, 01:56 PM
From what I understand "T&A" are going to be around for awhile.

I so want to make a bad joke.

Sean Walsh
08-10-2006, 02:17 PM
I so want to make a bad joke.

Allow me........

BOOBIES AND BUMS!!!!!!!!!

See? That was bad. :p

Will.S
08-10-2006, 02:50 PM
I enjoyed the book and it's war setting, it's alot more full scale in scope.

It really feels like the cosmic universe is in great peril especially with the Skrulls being destroyed at every turn and the Kree coming under so much heavy fire although I would have liked to have seen more races come together other than the big 2 such as the Shi'ar and the Badoon. Loved seeing Drax in action again in all his primal knife wielding combat glory but with his powers being much more grounded it makes him a much weaker character than he was before which has it's disadvantages since it also makes him more vulnerable to death. At the same time he's definitely gonna get creamed by Thanos whenever they finally throw down.

I was surprised to see Gamora shacking with Nova but I liked it at the same time. Props to Firelord for doing his major part of the attack and I loved how there were so many things going on at once. Rich Rider and Peter Quill's relationship and interaction make them great foils to each other. The Galactus/Surfer vs A & T fight in the end took an interesting turn, I didn't expect for them to be defeated so easily but Aegis and Tenebrous sucked out alot of power from the Fallen One on top of whatever their power levels were already.

Andrea Divito's art is solid from start to finish with some spot on depictions of certain characters. I liked Jorge Lucas's Ronan alot more though and I would have gone with another colorist than Villiari since the textures and colors tend to come off somewhat bland. Plus the jacket Nova sports veers dangerously into a 90's look but so far so good.

aniscape
08-10-2006, 03:23 PM
I enjoyed the book and it's war setting, it's alot more full scale in scope.

It really feels like the cosmic universe is in great peril especially with the Skrulls being destroyed at every turn and the Kree coming under so much heavy fire although I would have liked to have seen more races come together other than the big 2 such as the Shi'ar and the Badoon. Loved seeing Drax in action again in all his primal knife wielding combat glory but with his powers being much more grounded it makes him a much weaker character than he was before which has it's disadvantages since it also makes him more vulnerable to death. At the same time he's definitely gonna get creamed by Thanos whenever they finally throw down.

I was surprised to see Gamora shacking with Nova but I liked it at the same time. Props to Firelord for doing his major part of the attack and I loved how there were so many things going on at once. Rich Rider and Peter Quill's relationship and interaction make them great foils to each other. The Galactus/Surfer vs A & T fight in the end took an interesting turn, I didn't expect for them to be defeated so easily but Aegis and Tenebrous sucked out alot of power from the Fallen One on top of whatever their power levels were already.

Andrea Divito's art is solid from start to finish with some spot on depictions of certain characters. I liked Jorge Lucas's Ronan alot more though and I would have gone with another colorist than Villiari since the textures and colors tend to come off somewhat bland. Plus the jacket Nova sports veers dangerously into a 90's look but so far so good.

Don't forget that the Rigellians are there along with a bunch of other races from all over. Plus did you not catch the Centaurion manning one of those big guns on page 2 :)

The explanations given for the Badoon and Shi'ar are reasonable.

Herald of Asgard
08-10-2006, 05:19 PM
Magnificent! With only a few minor complaints (namely Nova's characterization, as previously mentioned), this was a simply mind-blowing issue. I only wish Super-Skrull was there to help out. I'm still waiting to see what Thanos has up his sleeve, and to see him drive Drax into the ground. If only the Galactus battle could've went on for a bit longer, although, I highly doubt thats the last we'll see of Galactus and Surfer.

Woe be to the man who says Annihilation isn't the best Crossover/Event in recent memory for Marvel. This is excellent stuff.

Until next month

bfrank
08-10-2006, 05:21 PM
Wait, what?

They're using the Negative Zone as a prison?

That's just . . . silly.

yes, cuz we all know that the negative zone is "paradise"!

jsg2295
08-10-2006, 05:33 PM
I so want to make a bad joke.
I wrote it that way on purpose.

Will.S
08-10-2006, 06:28 PM
Don't forget that the Rigellians are there along with a bunch of other races from all over. Plus did you not catch the Centaurion manning one of those big guns on page 2 :)

The explanations given for the Badoon and Shi'ar are reasonable.
I think the main problem for me was that alot of the soldier fodder were Kree which makes sense since they are in fact in Kree territory but I would have liked to have seen more other races such as the ones I mentioned but I give credit to Giffen for acknowledging them and telling why they haven't participated yet.

Plus after reading the book again I overlooked the backround soldiers and found that there is indeed more diversity than I had noticed initially with various races also in the battle. The art is very detailed and meticulous in the battle scenes so I have to also hand it to Andrea for all that extra stuff he was able to pack in.

Armless Penguin
08-10-2006, 07:30 PM
Annihilation has been such a great read so far. This issue was fantastic, and it's interesting seeing all of these characters coming together. I can't wait for more.

Mr.Musgrave
08-10-2006, 10:07 PM
Worst parts:

1. So now are we to believe that this mini is going to totally change the characterization that we have come to know as Nova.

2. Nova sleeping with Gamora.


1. Would it be easier to believe that he went to a intergalactic war where thousands (millions?) of people were killed and he came out of it unchanged? People who go to war and see serious action rarely come out unchanged. It would be absurd for him to be flying around cracking jokes while the universe died.

2. War makes strange bedfellows. What's the problem?

steve2275
08-10-2006, 11:14 PM
Just braved the rain to get the comic and the handbook-thing.

My quick thoughts:

- DOUBLE CRAP! Galactus got his ass kicked!

- End of the issue NO!


i didnt c that comin

Mjolnir
08-11-2006, 02:53 AM
anyone get the variant as well?
i did cus my LCS only had 2 copies...the temptation was too great.

i'd like the next couple of issues to maybe not be told from Nova's POV i think. thanks to the minis, i care very much about all 4 (well, 3 remaining) main characters, and i'd especially like to see Ronan's front-line thoughts, on top of his experiences.

Titan76
08-11-2006, 08:59 AM
I haven't read the Annihilation minis(and really don't plan to because of budget) but I got this issue and it was very good. Only I have two questions:

Who are Aegis and Tenebrous?
It said that these guys are on Galactus's level of power but I have never heard of them before.

And if they are on Galactus's level then why are they with Thanos?

Expletive Deleted
08-11-2006, 09:28 AM
They're new, having just been introduced in ANNIHILATION: SILVER SURFER #2, and we don't know much about them.

Tenebrous and Aegis are, like Galactus, part of the universal balancing act called the Cosmic Consonance. Thing is, they were in some way corrupted. Millions of years ago, Galactus managed to trap them in the Kyln, a cosmic prison on the edge of the universe. When Annihilus busted through the Kyln on his way into the MU from the Negative Zone, they were freed. They've got a mad-on for Galactus, so they allied themselves with Thanos and Annihilus. The specifics of their deal is thus far unknown.

aniscape
08-11-2006, 09:32 AM
I haven't read the Annihilation minis(and really don't plan to because of budget) but I got this issue and it was very good. Only I have two questions:

Who are Aegis and Tenebrous?
It said that these guys are on Galactus's level of power but I have never heard of them before.

And if they are on Galactus's level then why are they with Thanos?

I guess Annihilation isn't as stand alone as Andy thought :) All those are answered in the minis ;)

Aegis and Tenebrous (T & A as we like to call them around here) are new characters created in the Surfer Mini. Apparently Galactus Jailed them at the beginning of the Universe and they have been there since. When the Annihilation wave came and destroyed the prison they were freed and hell bent on searching for Galactus.

As for why Thanos is with them... well it's Thanos and we all want to know that answer too. But I assume he made a deal with and led them to Galactus and Surfer.

Shouda stated this first. Follow this link and all your questions will be answered http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=123646

almost forgot about it sorry E.D. :D

Titan76
08-11-2006, 10:24 AM
Thank you both for the answers.

Willminus2
08-11-2006, 02:23 PM
Were is Adam Warlock, Moondragon, and Pip? I would love to see them invested in this. Especially since the little midget can teleport. I mean he could theoretically teleport Adam Warlock right to Annihilus and then hopefully Warlock could take him out. That would be really boring though.

Expletive Deleted
08-11-2006, 02:26 PM
Moondragon is confirmed, but she hasn't appeared on panel yet. The NOVA CORPS FILES book revealed that she's been kidnapped by Thanos.

Adam and Pip's status is, last I heard, still unconfirmed.

Willminus2
08-11-2006, 07:26 PM
I miss Adam Warlock.

mandog
08-12-2006, 01:52 PM
This was a sweet issue. Some of the art was a bit bland in spots (the Nova stuff) and was great in others (Galactus stuff) Other than that its a great series. I better get to see Galactus stomp a mud hole in T&As asses.

Kid Kamikaze10
08-12-2006, 01:59 PM
This series is awesome.

At first, I thought of it as a way to fill in the void that the Ultimates and Civil War leave open for me, but now, it's slowing becoming more interesting than CW, IMO.

Oh yeah, Thanos once again shows that no matter who you are, you do NOT f**k with him...... Unless you're Squirrel Girl.......... Or maybe Drax (if he gets lucky).

Joe Acro
08-12-2006, 02:16 PM
I don't know what all's been said, but I just want to throw my thoughts in. Ever since it was revealed the 616 universe is leaking into the Negative Zone, Annihilation has continued to let me down.

Issue #1 is no different. This comic is an utter mess.

spoiler
From the start, there's a problem. The recap at the beginning is highly unsatisfactory. The only information that can't be found in the Prequel is the fact that the Skrull empire has apparently been destroyed. There's no information about what Ronan was up to or why Surfer is working with Galactus. On top of that, there's been a skip in time. The (for some reason current Marvel mandate) time of six months (according to what calendar) has passed. Stuff has apparently happened in these six months, including the Annihilation Wave returning from its retreat in Nova's LS (has it been a cycle?) and the counter-forces teaming up.

The thing with Firelord makes no sense, considering Novas was able to rip through the Wave and almost defeat Annihilus. Firelord, with his mighty Power Cosmic, has to make himself comatose to defeat part of the fleet and incapacitate (not even kill!) an Annihilus Queen.

Gamora is sleeping with Nova. This makes little sense given where we left her in Infinity Abyss. She was in what seemed like a truly loving relationship with Adam Warlock. Maybe this was resolved in Ronan. If it had been, the summary of events neglected to tell me.

The item with Surfer and Galactus made little sense. Galactus reunited with Silver Surfer in order defeat these two cosmic entities. Yet, neither one of them is able to do much, if anything, to Aegis and Tenebrous. This is especially bad considering it has been established that Galactus once defeated the two of them on his own. Galactus can't even noticably scrath, much less defeat, one of them?

A couple of positive notes:
The initial fight sequence is well done.
Marvel has finally put Starlord in mainstream continuity! Although, the reason he has a cybernetic eye is unclear. Maybe it has something to do with why he isn't Starlord anymore...
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BeastieRunner
08-12-2006, 03:56 PM
Joe Arco, I strongly suggest you read the recent Drax mini, Annihilation minis, and well pretty much all mini's in the cosmic universe of Marvel since probably 1995 if this is confusing you this much.

I can understand if you haven't and you're confused, so it's a good excuse to go bin digging and finding some great stories. The whole series is really new reader friendly, I don't understand the problem. :confused:

ADDENDUM: Nova Corps Files is another (cheaper) form of getting some catch up work done.

lucifernomi
08-12-2006, 06:13 PM
It's so obvious that Thanos is going to get the secrets of the power cosmic and then turn on Annilihus and kick his chitinous ass all over creation... but I soooo want to see it happen. Can't wait.

Pax.

Personally, I'm hoping that Thanos has realized that Anihilus has gotten way too powerful, and that letting him win is too much of a liability, and is actually planning to help SS and Galactus, also squaring his beef with the two.

BeastieRunner
08-12-2006, 06:14 PM
Andy has said that Thanos isn't taking over but . . . I hope he doesn't stop it personally.

JuggernautRM
08-12-2006, 07:42 PM
Thanos...cosmic power....


"Behold THANOS...Herald to Galactus!"

Joe Acro
08-12-2006, 08:40 PM
Joe Arco, I strongly suggest you read the recent Drax mini, Annihilation minis, and well pretty much all mini's in the cosmic universe of Marvel since probably 1995 if this is confusing you this much.

I can understand if you haven't and you're confused, so it's a good excuse to go bin digging and finding some great stories. The whole series is really new reader friendly, I don't understand the problem. :confused:

ADDENDUM: Nova Corps Files is another (cheaper) form of getting some catch up work done.

The problem is that I was told by someone, possibly Andy Schmidt, that I wouldn't need to pick up the mini-series to know the major events in them. Those events would be recapped in Annihilation itself. I don't need to read Drax or much of anything cosmic-related that Marvel put out in the last eleven years. I simply need to know what happened in two of the Annihilation mini-series, specifically Ronan and Super-Skrull. At the very least, I could've gotten a Previously... page like in the Ultimate titles.

BeastieRunner
08-12-2006, 08:53 PM
Try the Nova Corps Files.:)

Will.S
08-12-2006, 09:08 PM
The problem is that I was told by someone, possibly Andy Schmidt, that I wouldn't need to pick up the mini-series to know the major events in them. Those events would be recapped in Annihilation itself. I don't need to read Drax or much of anything cosmic-related that Marvel put out in the last eleven years. I simply need to know what happened in two of the Annihilation mini-series, specifically Ronan and Super-Skrull. At the very least, I could've gotten a Previously... page like in the Ultimate titles.
Ronan and Super Skrull really need little to no explaining for Annihilation #1 since Super Skrull died sacrificing himself to destroy a planet destroyer (which is why he doesn't appear anywhere) and Ronan was doing his own thing for a bit after escaping Godthab Omega until he decided to join the united front which is his best chance at surviving.

There are some "Field reports" on this forum which Expletive posted that have some gap bridging info so check those out. If anything just get the Annihilation Nova Corps files that came out this week since they sum up all of the events and are up to date.

Guts/Batman
08-12-2006, 11:27 PM
I really liked this issue. I didn't read the Annihilation minis (thinking about getting the trades when they come out though, IF they come that is), and didn't find myself lost at all.

Joe Acro
08-13-2006, 08:45 AM
I really liked this issue. I didn't read the Annihilation minis (thinking about getting the trades when they come out though, IF they come that is), and didn't find myself lost at all.I'm not saying I was lost, just that I was expecting a better summary.

Ronan and Super Skrull really need little to no explaining for Annihilation #1 since Super Skrull died sacrificing himself to destroy a planet destroyer (which is why he doesn't appear anywhere) and Ronan was doing his own thing for a bit after escaping Godthab Omega until he decided to join the united front which is his best chance at surviving.

There are some "Field reports" on this forum which Expletive posted that have some gap bridging info so check those out. If anything just get the Annihilation Nova Corps files that came out this week since they sum up all of the events and are up to date.
I wish they had mentioned Kl'rt dying in the summary, but may Nova doesn't know about him. I'll check out those "Field reports." Thank you.

Again, I don't know if this has been mentioned anywhere, but how does Super Skrull's role at the end of Young Avengers tie into Annihilation?

Will.S
08-13-2006, 09:03 AM
Again, I don't know if this has been mentioned anywhere, but how does Super Skrull's role at the end of Young Avengers tie into Annihilation?
From what I understand it, Super Skrull's appearance in Young Avengers took place before Annihilation so we all assume that Kl'rt just went back into outer space after helping out the YA.

jonwes
08-13-2006, 12:33 PM
I think the problem is that Super Skrull wasn't in the position to just "fly away" at the end of Young Avengers. If Annihilation is after YA (and it probably is) then that means that Skrull's ruse has failed and that the YA are in trouble.

Jack
08-13-2006, 01:03 PM
I think the problem is that Super Skrull wasn't in the position to just "fly away" at the end of Young Avengers. If Annihilation is after YA (and it probably is) then that means that Skrull's ruse has failed and that the YA are in trouble.
Super Skrull starts Annihilation out with a really bad standing in the Skrull Empire. It's reasonable to assume that this is because his scheme was discovered. Then the Skrull Empired gets, well, annihilated.

And the Kree Empire has just been taken over by House Fiyero, so they probably weren't too fussed about tying up loose ends from the former administration.

Will.S
08-13-2006, 01:59 PM
And the Kree Empire has just been taken over by House Fiyero, so they probably weren't too fussed about tying up loose ends from the former administration.
I hope to actually see Fiyero House during this mini and their insane usurping power in the wake of Annihilation. I mean c'mon, if there's no kingdom to rule over what would be the point?

agrich
08-17-2006, 02:32 PM
Joe Arco, I strongly suggest you read the recent Drax mini, Annihilation minis, and well pretty much all mini's in the cosmic universe of Marvel since probably 1995 if this is confusing you this much.

I can understand if you haven't and you're confused, so it's a good excuse to go bin digging and finding some great stories. The whole series is really new reader friendly, I don't understand the problem. :confused:


I've read a bunch of these things and skimmed others, and if they at any point explained how Gamora went from a loving relationship with Adam Warlock at the end of Infinity Abyss to the character she was in the Ronan series and now sleeping with freaking Nova, I've definitely missed that story. I guess it's "new" reader friendly, like for those people who have no concept of the history of characters like Gamora and arguably Thanos, but if you ARE familiar with their history, I'd call it fairly reader hostile.

Expletive Deleted
08-17-2006, 02:59 PM
Eh, Gamora and Adam (at least since the Infinity Watch era) had one of the most passionless romances I've ever seen in a comic book. Granted, there was even an in-story reason for him to be an aloof, unemotional jerk, but that's not really an excuse. And since she was last seen stuck with him (and a cosmic toddler) in an incredibly small pocket dimension . . .

I can see where longtime fans with an investment in the characters might be irritated by the lack of explanation for the revamp, but the combination of Glorian's shenanigans and your basic behind-the scenes break-up works well enough for me.

agrich
08-17-2006, 03:19 PM
I can't argue with people who didn't think much of the Gamora-Warlock relationship, such as it was, but the character of Gamora had no context in the Marvel Universe apart from being Warlock's companion/teammate/whatever. I read the Ronan series, and it's not like anything in it relied on who Gamora was or is (aside from the line about her being the most dangerous yada yada). To this point I'm wondering, why use the character at all, although there's still time to change my mind.

That said, I'm on board for the rest of the series to see what the story is, I just disagree with the idea that 1) reading all the other minis or cosmic adventures over the past decade explains it, and 2) that it's terribly reader friendly. Not saying there's anything wrong with enjoying it, but there are a lot of reasonable questions to be asked even if you've been keeping up. Clearly some aren't bothered by them, as you say.

Lord S
08-18-2006, 11:53 PM
I just remembered this...anyone else find it absolutely hilarious to see Drax fighting the aliens with a pair of knives? Wasn't he the one preaching in the 'Nova' mini for people to pick up a gun and start fighting? Funny. :D

Raker Q.
08-19-2006, 08:57 AM
heh...Drax with knives is kind of lame....I miss the old Drax

Acrosurge
08-19-2006, 09:26 AM
heh...Drax with knives is kind of lame....I miss the old DraxI loved Annihilation #1. I've got a bit of cosmic background, being a Surfer fan, but many of these characters (and histories) are brand new to me, and I've still loved the series. I've never felt out of the loop, so it must be at least kind of accessible to new readers. The story seems to be flowing just fine, either way.

As for Drax, I like the new one. He's lean and mean and the knives set him apart from the typical, "fly around with super-strength and project force bolts from hands" type character. That and Drax was sharing way too many character traits with the Savage Hulk to begin with. Now, I feel he's his own character, despite seemingly having less powers. When it comes down to it, its not about the powers or weapons, but the character.

Raker Q.
08-20-2006, 01:54 AM
Never said I wanted the typical, "fly around with super-strength and project force bolts from hands" type character...I just see knives more as a weapon for an urban street fighter type character than a cosmic character...
so yes I agree with ...."When it comes down to it, its not about the powers or weapons, but the character.".....I still like the character of Drax....and love Annihilation....as long as Drax continues to destroy....then I'm happy :)

Arilou
08-20-2006, 09:46 AM
I can't argue with people who didn't think much of the Gamora-Warlock relationship, such as it was, but the character of Gamora had no context in the Marvel Universe apart from being Warlock's companion/teammate/whatever. I read the Ronan series, and it's not like anything in it relied on who Gamora was or is (aside from the line about her being the most dangerous yada yada). To this point I'm wondering, why use the character at all, although there's still time to change my mind.

That said, I'm on board for the rest of the series to see what the story is, I just disagree with the idea that 1) reading all the other minis or cosmic adventures over the past decade explains it, and 2) that it's terribly reader friendly. Not saying there's anything wrong with enjoying it, but there are a lot of reasonable questions to be asked even if you've been keeping up. Clearly some aren't bothered by them, as you say.

Actually there is the *other* tie she has.... Namely that Thanos trained her. And that thus she can to some degree help with that, though with Drax there that part seems a bit redundant as well.

Joe Acro
08-20-2006, 09:48 AM
Actually there is the *other* tie she has.... Namely that Thanos trained her. And that thus she can to some degree help with that, though with Drax there that part seems a bit redundant as well.
She severed all ties with Thanos years ago. (Well, at least in our time...)

Arilou
08-20-2006, 03:13 PM
She severed all ties with Thanos years ago. (Well, at least in our time...)

Not really relevant, what I meant is that she *knows* Thanos. In case he wants to defect, or trick the United Front or something (we all know he's not going to play second fiddle to Annihilus....)

As I said that makes her kind of redundant because Drax is there, but then Drax probably is more likely to just stab him in the eye.

cappa donna
08-21-2006, 12:15 PM
Gamora's there because she wants to beat the annihilation just like everybody else and she's a huge asset. Makes sense to me. Don't like the Galactus fight all that much, because he didn't show enough offense. oh yea, Nova's the man! :cool:

The Fury
08-22-2006, 03:55 AM
Finally read this. I like it, thought it was good. Art was nice, story moving along nicely.

Did find it odd Galactus lost, considering he beat them once already. But still we do not know if that happened, but i also find it hard to believe that those 2 big characters are being commanded by Annhilius.

I guess we'll see where it all leads.

Sheldon
08-22-2006, 04:13 AM
heh...Drax with knives is kind of lame....I miss the old Drax
The new drax has grown on me. However, whenever I see him with the knives I think someone was watching chronicles of riddick or something...

Arilou
08-22-2006, 08:59 AM
Finally read this. I like it, thought it was good. Art was nice, story moving along nicely.

Did find it odd Galactus lost, considering he beat them once already. But still we do not know if that happened, but i also find it hard to believe that those 2 big characters are being commanded by Annhilius.

I guess we'll see where it all leads.

I don't think T&A are being "commanded" by Annihilus in any real sense. He pointed them in the direction of Galactus and let them do his dirty work (or rather, Thanos did)

Bobster777
09-01-2006, 09:32 PM
One of the best first issues of any mini I have ever read. So much excitement and developments. Man, I just can't wait to get my hands on the next issue.

Dark Soul # 7
09-04-2006, 12:12 PM
I finally got my issue today and let me tell you. I am so eternally grateful that I did NOT read any spoilers.

From page 1 with the resistance fighting the wave in a truly epic cosmic war scene through the badassedness of Ronan, Firelord and Drax to the omnious ending this issue blew my mind away two or three times.

I for one like the Nova's new and though, battle-hardend personality. It's war, people change. Cammi was delightful as ever with her attitude and "friendship" with Drax.

The battle in the end was short but as somebody said we only saw the last moments of it. It might as well have lasted a week for all we know. Also consider that Galactus and Silver Surfer were alone against not only two beings in the same ballpark as Galactus but also faced with a large portion of the Wave and posibly Thanos tactical mind.

For me of course the greatest part was seeing Firelord being not only a badass but a self-sacrificing hero. Hope he survives and gets to kick more bug ass.

The art was the best I've seen in ages. Why Di Vito is not one of the buissnesses top artist names is beyond my understanding.

10 out of 10. A perfect score. It feels like I'm cheating on Civil War by liking Annihilation so much, but it feels so good.:evilsmile

DHX
09-04-2006, 01:06 PM
The new drax has grown on me. However, whenever I see him with the knives I think someone was watching chronicles of riddick or something...

THATS WHATS BEEN BUGGING ME ABOUT DRAX!!!thanks for pointing it out.

BigBoss
09-04-2006, 06:24 PM
I am wanting to get it but I am too busy trying to get all the civil war tie ins.