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BPlante
08-06-2006, 11:07 PM
ok...say you were in charge of forming a team of DC's 10 most powerful heroes to take on any other team of 10 heroes. so sort of like a JLA. which 10 heroes do you put on this team?
slevin
08-06-2006, 11:24 PM
here the big list:
1.ALL STAR SUPERMAN (of cousre)
2.ION
3.BATMAN
4.SHAZAM
5.THE FLASH
6.WONDER WOMAN
7.NEW BLUE BEETLE
8.THE ATOM
9.SUPERGIRL
10.MR.TERIFFIC
BPlante
08-06-2006, 11:28 PM
here the big list:
1.ALL STAR SUPERMAN (of cousre)
2.ION
3.BATMAN
4.SHAZAM
5.THE FLASH
6.WONDER WOMAN
7.NEW BLUE BEETLE
8.THE ATOM
9.SUPERGIRL
10.MR.TERIFFIC
no green lantern or martain manhunter? interesting... would anyone put the spectre or lucifer morningstar on this team of DC's best?
Paul Newell
08-06-2006, 11:32 PM
Most powerful?
Superman
Captain Marvel
Supergirl
Power Girl
Martian Manhunter
The Spectre
Wonder Woman
Lobo
Ion
Ambush Bug
BPlante
08-06-2006, 11:44 PM
Most powerful?
Superman
Captain Marvel
Supergirl
Power Girl
Martian Manhunter
The Spectre
Wonder Woman
Lobo
Ion
Ambush Bug
not as in pure strength...just abilities...the 10 best of all DC...
Paul Newell
08-07-2006, 12:20 AM
They don't all rely on strength...And they would all be considered the most powerful heroes in the DCU...Well...Except Ambush Bug. :)
mrc1214
08-07-2006, 05:56 AM
Im not a DC expert so my list may be a little off but here
1. Superman
2. Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
3.Captain Marvel
4. Martian Manhunter
5.Spectre
6.Power Girl
7. Wonder Woman
8.Flash
9.Super Girl
10. Firestorm
Rik Levins
08-07-2006, 07:55 AM
1. Spectre
2. Ion
3. Mr. Majestic
4. Orion
5. Pre-Crisis Superman
6. Duplicate Boy (from the Pre-Crisis Heroes of Llalor)
7.Pre-Crisis Mon-El with anti-lead serum (which also made him immune to red suns, at least back in the early days)
8. Wally West Flash
9. Captain Marvel
10. Dr. Manhattan
Sir Tim Drake
08-07-2006, 07:59 AM
1. Wonder Woman
2. Wonder Girl
3. Mary Marvel
4. Supergirl
5. Andromeda
6. Big Barda
7. Light Lass
8. Starfire
9. Power Girl
10. Thunder
ChildOfTheDarkholde
08-07-2006, 08:02 AM
Wonder Woman
Power-Girl
Big Barda
Starfire
Lady Shiva
Dr.Light (Kimiyo)
Jade
Supergirl
Mary Marvel
Andromeda
Fenix
08-07-2006, 08:50 AM
Spectre
Superman
Wonder Woman
Shazam
Supergirl
Dr. Fate
Zatanna
Flash
Hal Jordan
Ion
Count Vertigo
08-07-2006, 09:08 AM
Im surprised no one mentioned Captain Atom or Major Force
Matt Linton
08-07-2006, 11:54 AM
Dr. Fate
Spectre
Superman (pre-Crisis)
Green Lantern (Hal)
Flash (pre-Crisis)
Captain Marvel
Orion
Firestorm (original)
Wonder Woman
Captain Atom
Francis
08-07-2006, 12:06 PM
Ion's a Green Lantern.
For most powerful team,
Lucifer Morningstar
Martian Manhunter
Superman
Ion
The Spectre
Dr. Fate
John Constantine (who is deceptively powerful)
Ganthet
Destruction of the Endless (who would make a great superhero)
Elaine Belloc
mswood
08-07-2006, 01:26 PM
Well my choices would all be normal DC universe heroes. No beings like Spectre.
Superman
Wonder Women
Green Lantern (Hal)
Flash
Dr. Fate
Martian Manhunter
Captain Marvel
Supergirl
Captain Atom
Zatanna
Captain Smith
08-07-2006, 01:46 PM
The Spectre has a history of being a team member and a supehero. That criterion takes out folks like the Endless and Lucifer.
If you want those operating specifically as heroes - he is in.
Spectre
Hal
Dr. Fate
Captain Marvel
Superman
Martian Manhunter
Captain Atom
PreCrisis Wildfire
Captain Atom
Firestorm
In reality - the Spectre can total all the rest.
kentonator
08-08-2006, 08:14 AM
PC Superman
Batman
Capt. Atom
Zatanna
Spectre
ION
Dr. Fate
Capt. Marvel
Wally West Flash
GL Hal.
geordiesteve
08-08-2006, 08:20 AM
Superman
Batman
Martian Manhunter
Green Lantern
Wonder Woman
Captain Marvel
Fate
Power Girl
Big Barda
Zatanna
I didn't put Spectre on, even though he is enormously powerful, perhaps more so than any of the others, as I don't think it is a hero, in the traditional sense of the word like the others above who have all been on or connected to the JLA, JSA, JLU etc.
caats19
08-08-2006, 09:22 AM
spectre was in the jsa. and he was freaking hal jordan for awhile. of course he counts.
marshal99
08-08-2006, 09:58 AM
The Spectre is a whole new different level from anyone else. He is the DCU biggest gun but he's also the one to fall by the sidelines whenever a story needed a cosmic pansy to make a threat looked powerful. :D
He was a honorary member of the JSA , served as a member of the all star squadron during world war II. Whenever he's in a team , as per usual , he got his powers dumbed down.
colmustard
08-08-2006, 11:53 AM
ok...say you were in charge of forming a team of DC's 10 most powerful heroes to take on any other team of 10 heroes. so sort of like a JLA. which 10 heroes do you put on this team?
1. Superman
2. Firestorm
3. Martian Manhunter
4. Supergirl
5. Power Girl
6. Wonder Woman (Diana)
7. Flash (Wally)
8. Green Lantern (Hal)
9. Dr. Fate
10. Batman
Accepting the premise of the question I do not want Batman on the other team.
I also chose to exclude beings such as the Spectre. There is a whole can of worms there waiting to be opened.
Captain Smith
08-08-2006, 01:05 PM
The Spectre usually turns you into a can of worms and drops you at the bait shop or in the chicken coop.
1. Whoever most closely resembles Chuck Norris in the DCU.
2-9. Irrelevant.
(Apologies in advance, I couldn't help it. The line for my beatings starts here...)
Kara Zor El
08-08-2006, 03:50 PM
Im surprised no one mentioned Captain Atom or Major Force
Major Force is a baddie!
Superman
Wonderwoman
Hal Jordon
Martian Manhunter
Supergirl
Powergirl
Captian Marvel
Mary Marvel
Captian Marvel Jr
The Eradicator
amorn
08-08-2006, 04:19 PM
1. Superman - Brawn
2. Batman - Brain
3. The Spectre - Magic
4. Ion - Power
5. The Flash - Speed
6. The Atom - Science
7. Martian Manhunter - Psychic
I think 7 is already way too powerful, i mean the Spectre alone wiped out pretty much every magic users in DCU but if i have to add to make it 10 then:
8. Zatanna
9. Captain Marvel
10. Firestorm
Phantom Druid
08-08-2006, 04:33 PM
Yeah this list is pretty much as I expected, with most people picking the same as I would have. Maybe we should slim it down to the top 5 to see who makes the cut ? Also, can I count Black Adam since he was in the JSA before ? In that case my top 5 would be
1- Captain Marvel
2- Black Adam
3- Martian Manhunter
4- Flash
5- Wonder Woman
The only reason that I didn't pick Superman and green lantern is because they have a known weakness ( Kryptonite & yello ) that people like Captain Marvel don't have . I also think DR. Fate is bad-ass but if he lost his helmet he might be screwed . Otherwise, they all would be up there. Still love Fate, Supes & Greenie. I want a new Dr. Fate solo comic dammit !!
nuclearman
08-08-2006, 06:23 PM
1. Superman
2. Captain Marvel
3. Martian Manhunter
4. Wonder Woman
5. Supergirl
6. Firestorm
7. Spectre
8. Green Lantern (Hal)
9. Green Lantern (Rayner)
10. Green Lantern (Stewart)
Erebus
08-08-2006, 07:01 PM
Just the most powerful?
Ion
Spectre
Zatanna
Captain Atom
Phantom Stranger
Firestorm
Metron
The Flash
Martian Manhunter
Hal Jordan
Phantom Druid
08-08-2006, 08:14 PM
Just the most powerful?
Ion
Spectre
Zatanna
Captain Atom
Phantom Stranger
Firestorm
Metron
The Flash
Martian Manhunter
Hal Jordanhow come Zatanna and no dr. fate ? I like Zatanna too , just curious
Erebus
08-08-2006, 10:10 PM
how come Zatanna and no dr. fate ? I like Zatanna too , just curious
The most powerful incarnations of Doctor Fate I've seen are PC Kent Nelson (non-existant) and Nabu (a cosmic). All the other Fates have just seemed like standard hero-magicians to me. Zatanna, however, can do practically anything. Bad guy comes along?. Liaj ot og. Guy threatning to destroy the Earth? Peels. Feeling parched and tired? Ettal Ahcom. She can do practically anything, which is why PIS and CIS are usually needed to write her correctly.
mervyn
08-08-2006, 10:55 PM
Green lantern (hal)
Ion
Superman
Captain Marvel
Dr. Light
Dr. Fate
Zatanna
Captain Atom
Martian Manhunter
Supergirl/powergirl
Apathy Boy
08-08-2006, 11:03 PM
A lot of people misunderstand how Zatanna's powers work. It's not that anything she says backwards will come true; it's that, for her to cast a spell, she has to say it backwards. (She can cast spells without the backwards-speech, but that's how she's best able to focus her power.) That's why most of her spells are so simple, and why she struggles with more complicated spells like changing people's personalities.
So give the advantage to Dr. Fate. Zatanna is one of the world's most powerful human magicians, but Dr. Fate is more-or-less a god. I don't think Zatanna would've survived a fight with the Spectre for a fraction of the time that Dr. Fate did in THE DAY OF VENGEANCE SPECIAL.
Erebus
08-08-2006, 11:07 PM
A lot of people misunderstand how Zatanna's powers work. It's not that anything she says backwards will come true; it's that, for her to cast a spell, she has to say it backwards. (She can cast spells without the backwards-speech, but that's how she's best able to focus her power.) That's why most of her spells are so simple, and why she struggles with more complicated spells like changing people's personalities.
So give the advantage to Dr. Fate. Zatanna is one of the world's most powerful human magicians, but Dr. Fate is more-or-less a god. I don't think Zatanna would've survived a fight with the Spectre for a fraction of the time that Dr. Fate did in THE DAY OF VENGEANCE SPECIAL.
Wasn't that Nabu-Fate?
Apathy Boy
08-08-2006, 11:20 PM
Wasn't that Nabu-Fate?Yeah, that's true. Though the host-less Fate was considerably weakened by that point, so I'd say he was probably less powerful than the Kent Nelson version of the character.
marshal99
08-08-2006, 11:24 PM
Zatanna was never THAT powerful until identity crisis seemed to boost up her magic level. Dr. Fate have always been one rung above her.
In the old Silver Age JLA , Zatanna had lost much of her power when she exhaust her natural magic reserves when she used her magic too much .
In the JLA/JSA crossover where the original Mr. Terrific died , Zatanna fell into a magical trap and nearly died if not for Dr. Fate who not only saved her but healed her in seconds. Also , in pre-crisis , when superman sought Zatanna's help for magical assistance in making him invulnerable to magic , she was unable to help him and then superman had to fly to earth 2 to ask Dr. Fate for help , which he could but superman changed his mind at the end.
And remember , it was hector hall fate who beat chaos lord ,Mordru and put him in the rock of eternity , Mordru who had beaten the magical power of the thunderbolt and held back the rest of the JSA.
Also , in Swamp thing , Dr. Fate was very much in the frontline against the approaching of the darkness along with the rest of the magical big guns like phantom stranger and spectre while Zatanna was in a room with the rest of the earthbound lesser sorcerers trying to provide psychic support to the frontline and it was only one simple psychic bolt from the darkness that would have killed Zatanna if it wasn't for her father , Zatara who took the spell to himself and died in her place.
Zatanna have always been 2nd string and by right , should have been dead instead of her father.
AaronJ
08-09-2006, 10:45 AM
1. Superman
2. Supergirl
3. Powergirl
4. Batman
5. Wonder Woman
6. Captain Marvel
7. Zatanna
8. Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
9. Ion
10. Flash
Mulett
08-09-2006, 12:37 PM
I would say that The Spectre is the most powerful as he has always been portrayed as such. After that, it would be the Kryptonians, Wonder Woman (her power grows and grows) and then the Marvel family.
1/ The Spectre
2/ Superman, Supergirl and Power Girl
3/ Wonder Woman
4/ The Marvels/Black Adam
But power is a little over rated. Given the right circumstances, an un-powered hero could win out. Batman, for instance, could defeat Black Adam if he used enough guile.
Gozwald73
08-09-2006, 06:52 PM
Batman
Oracle
Vril Dox
Marij'n
Aquaman
Black Canary
Blue Jay
Green Arrow (Hawke - the REAL GA)
Steel
Phase
combine leadership with brains and you have an unbeatable team
;)
colmustard
08-11-2006, 07:38 AM
1. Superman
2. Firestorm
3. Martian Manhunter
4. Supergirl
5. Power Girl
6. Wonder Woman (Diana)
7. Flash (Wally)
8. Green Lantern (Hal)
9. Dr. Fate
10. Batman
Accepting the premise of the question I do not want Batman on the other team.
I also chose to exclude beings such as the Spectre. There is a whole can of worms there waiting to be opened.
I was actually thinking of this and I want to amend my list. I haven't seen anyone else list Deadman and in a team setting he could be incredibly powerful. He could easily reduce the teams from 10 v 10 to 11 v 9 ... or at the very worse 10 v 9 (if he can't control who he takes over).
So, my new list:
1. Superman
2. Firestorm
3. Martian Manhunter
4. Supergirl
5. Power Girl
6. Wonder Woman (Diana)
7. Deadman
8. Green Lantern (Hal)
9. Dr. Fate
10. Batman
I dropped the Flash. He's one of my all time favorite characters (at least Barry was), but in this scenario Deadman is better.
Atomlad
08-12-2006, 06:14 PM
Well, going with those considered 'heroes' in the conventional comic book sense (bye bye, Black Adam), and avoiding hard to define magic entities (Dr Fate, Spectre):
1. Superman- by definition
2. Supergirl, Powergirl, any other Kryptonian
3. Captain Marvel- "Superman" of the former Fawcett Universe
4. Ion- (Green Lantern) ^2
5. Captain Atom- "Superman" of the former Charlton Universe
6. GL Hal Jordan
7. Any top notch Green Lantern (Alan, John, Guy, Kilowog)
8. Wonder Woman
9. Martian Manhunter
10.Batman (prep time!)
The Scribe
08-12-2006, 08:36 PM
Well, going with those considered 'heroes' in the conventional comic book sense (bye bye, Black Adam), and avoiding hard to define magic entities (Dr Fate, Spectre):
1. Superman- by definition
2. Supergirl, Powergirl, any other Kryptonian
3. Captain Marvel- "Superman" of the former Fawcett Universe
4. Ion- (Green Lantern) ^2
5. Captain Atom- "Superman" of the former Charlton Universe
6. GL Hal Jordan
7. Any top notch Green Lantern (Alan, John, Guy, Kilowog)
8. Wonder Woman
9. Martian Manhunter
10.Batman (prep time!)
I agree with most of these.
1. Superman-Supergirl, Powergirl, any other Kryptonian
2. Wonder Woman
3. Captain Marvel- "Superman" of the former Fawcett Universe
4. Martian Manhunter
5. Captain Atom- "Superman" of the former Charlton Universe
6. GL Hal Jordan,Ion, Any top notch Green Lantern (Alan, John, Guy, Kilowog)
7. The Spectre
8. Dr. Fate
9. Lobo
10.Batman
Also, Firestorm, Orion, Donna Troy, and Zatanna.
Kintales
08-12-2006, 10:17 PM
1. Superman
2. Wonder Woman
3. Captain Marvel
4. Martian Manhunter
5. Flash (Wally)
6. The Spectre
7. Ion
8. GL Hal Jordan
9. Firestorm
10. Captain Atom
MarsCactus
08-12-2006, 11:59 PM
1. The Spectre
2. Sentinel
3. The Flash (Wally)
4. Captain Marvel
5. Dr. Fate
6. Batman
7. The Atom
8. Orion
9. Hourman (android)
10. The Human Bomb (any of them)
I don't think my team's the "most powerful" at all.. but it'd still be cool to see...
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