Best book you've read this week? (8/2)

[Jack Zodiac]

I didn't get very many books this week, but I did decide to pick up The Creeper #1. After seeing his short in Brave New World last month, I wasn't too impressed, but the cover looked nice and I usually love Steve Niles, so I gave it a shot. And Lord, am I glad I did.

It was amazing. The story retold Jack Ryder's origin as The Creeper to make it more modern, but didn't intrude upon the original Ditko version very much at all. And the art was great. I have no idea who Justiniano is, but his Creeper was one crazy lookin' bastard. If I had a scanner, I'd let you guys see the page where Jack makes the transformation to him. His eyes get huge and his grin starts speading while he's facedown on some pointy rocks. :) Crazy.

Anyway, I know it's early still, but what's the best book you guys got this week?

[howyadoin]

The new comic order here was delayed till tomorrow.

[Sophisticated_Gamer]

I would have to say Freakonomics...so funny yet so true

[ragnarok_2012]

I wasn't really impressed by what I read of Freakanomics, but at least it seemed fun.

This last weekend, I finished the Opium Wars: The Addiction of One Empire and the Corruption of Another, by W. Travis Hanes III & Frank Sanello.

It was fascinating.

[Sebastian22]

chronicle of a death foretold. i actaully just finished it like 5 mins before i saw this thread

[mrc1214]

The best book i read was Usagi Yojimbo 95. 52 week 13 was also pretty good.

[mrc1214]

I didn't get very many books this week, but I did decide to pick up The Creeper #1. After seeing his short in Brave New World last month, I wasn't too impressed, but the cover looked nice and I usually love Steve Niles, so I gave it a shot. And Lord, am I glad I did.

It was amazing. The story retold Jack Ryder's origin as The Creeper to make it more modern, but didn't intrude upon the original Ditko version very much at all. And the art was great. I have no idea who Justiniano is, but his Creeper was one crazy lookin' bastard. If I had a scanner, I'd let you guys see the page where Jack makes the transformation to him. His eyes get huge and his grin starts speading while he's facedown on some pointy rocks. :) Crazy.

Anyway, I know it's early still, but what's the best book you guys got this week?

What was the story about just the prigin?? And its a 6 issue mini-series right?? I was going to pick this up cause i had a small week.

[Forefinger]

I read my textbook. It's really good! I'm so excited to be reading a textbook!

[TinMan]

I read my textbook. It's really good! I'm so excited to be reading a textbook!

Pfft, dumbass.

Moon Knight #4 was pretty good, as was Uncanny X-Men #477. I also picked up New Excalibur #10 and 52 #13, but I didn't have time to make it through those last night.

[Lubichev]

Beyond Band of Brothers: The War Memoirs of Major Dick Winters, Commander of Easy Company.
A quick, interesting read.......
Not a comic book, but could be turned into a good one.

[Forefinger]

Pfft, dumbass.

Moon Knight #4 was pretty good, as was Uncanny X-Men #477. I also picked up New Excalibur #10 and 52 #13, but I didn't have time to make it through those last night.
Phht, you are the dumbass for picking up all those shitty X titles.

[Jack Zodiac]

The new comic order here was delayed till tomorrow.

That blows, Howy. Well, when they do come in, if you're the slightest bit interested, it was a great read.

What was the story about just the prigin?? And its a 6 issue mini-series right?? I was going to pick this up cause i had a small week.

Yeah, it's just his origin story, which is only slightly different from the original. And yeah, it's just a six issue mini-series right now. And because I had such a small week, too, I picked it up. So, I strongly agree with your idea. ;)

Phht, you are the dumbass for picking up all those shitty X titles.

Damn, he's got you there, TinMan.

[howyadoin]

So far, the new Punisher was great. Tied up the Barracuda storyline nicely.

[Jack Zodiac]

I thought the ending was great, but the whole story arc was just too subpar compared to all of Ennis's previous arcs. Especially after reading The Tyger midway through the "Barracuda" arc. Still, no doubt, great ending. I'll give it this, too. Frank was a cold motherfucker throughout this arc. The body count was the highest it's been, I think, since the very first issue when he sets up that chaingun outside of that ninety year-old Mafia boss's birthday party. Very nice.

[howyadoin]

I thought the ending was great, but the whole story arc was just too subpar compared to all of Ennis's previous arcs. Especially after reading The Tyger midway through the "Barracuda" arc. Still, no doubt, great ending. I'll give it this, too. Frank was a cold motherfucker throughout this arc. The body count was the highest it's been, I think, since the very first issue when he sets up that chaingun outside of that ninety year-old Mafia boss's birthday party. Very nice.I really liked seeing the guy's skanky wife get eaten.

And not in the sexual sense.

[StoneGold]

Probably Moon Knight. Although this week felt a little week. Might just be in comparison to last week's, which was an amazing week.


But I said it before and I'll say it again: it's OK to not like Huston and Finch's Moon Knight. But just know that only pussies don't like it.

[mattbib]

I won't get this week's comics until next Wednesday. :(

[howyadoin]

Probably Moon Knight. Although this week felt a little week. Might just be in comparison to last week's, which was an amazing week.


But I said it before and I'll say it again: it's OK to not like Huston and Finch's Moon Knight. But just know that only pussies don't like it.Picked it up today, but haven't read it yet. The description you guys gave last week (I think) sold me on it.

[Jack Zodiac]

I didn't get it, yet, but I think I'll get the first trade when it comes out. Face stabbings? Who could pass that up?

[EZMOHR]

I guess comic wise, it was 52 Week 13. The Ralph/Suecrow was just...I gots to think that was Morrison's imput for the week.

Bookwise, I read Zodiac by Robert Graysmith (I think that is his name) this week. It's a nice little history book about the Zodiac killer. Though, I only read it because I want to see the movie that is based on the book coming out next year. Tomorrow, I'm gonna read Isabelle Allende's Zorro. I'm not expecting much.:(

[Pól Rua]

I've just finished re-reading George R. R. Martin's 'A Clash of Kings' and it's even better than I remembered it.

On the comics front, the biggest news for me was the first trade of 'The Exterminators', a comic which I like to describe as what happens when Roger Corman decides to film William Burroughs' Naked Lunch as a radioactive bug film and gets Charles Bukowski to white the screenplay.
Seriously. It's that good. It is not, however, what one would describe as a hygienic read and you may feel a need to scrub your brain after each reading.

Or maybe just cleanse with fire.

[Jack Zodiac]

I guess comic wise, it was 52 Week 13. The Ralph/Suecrow was just...I gots to think that was Morrison's imput for the week.

Probably, since Zauriel was in that part, and Lord knows nobody wants to even try to write him other than Morrison.

What's wrong with writers that they're so afraid to write other creator's characters?

[Kid Omega]

BPRD: UNIVERSAL MACHINE 5 was my favorite read, with BATTLER BRITON 2 and AGENTS OF ATLAS 1 both being pleasant surprises.

The NAT TURNER Encore Edition is a great lil' read as well.

[mrc1214]

Probably, since Zauriel was in that part, and Lord knows nobody wants to even try to write him other than Morrison.

What's wrong with writers that they're so afraid to write other creator's characters?

IMO failure that they wont live up to the 1st writer. If I were a writer id be a little intimidated to write something Morrison wrote before me.

[StoneGold]

Picked it up today, but haven't read it yet. The description you guys gave last week (I think) sold me on it.
This month's issue is a tad more expository. It does have some action, but not really till towards the end, and not to the extreme levels of the first three issues.

It does have Marc Spectre either going completely insane or talking to Konshu though, depending on your perspective. And Konshu coming to him in the form of the guy whose face Moony bit off his head in #2.

[Jack Zodiac]

BPRD: UNIVERSAL MACHINE 5

Awesome ending for the arc, and that scene where Roger's sitting under Cloacina again was downright beautiful.

IMO failure that they wont live up to the 1st writer. If I were a writer id be a little intimidated to write something Morrison wrote before me.

True, but I can't understand what's stopping good writers from picking up after other good writers.

[StoneGold]

Probably, since Zauriel was in that part, and Lord knows nobody wants to even try to write him other than Morrison.

What's wrong with writers that they're so afraid to write other creator's characters?
In this case, it's probably that he's a superhero who is an angel. Let's face it, that's some sticky subject matter.

[Jack Zodiac]

True. I wouldn't mind seeing him getting dragged over to Vertigo for a mini-series. Or, if DC would grow some junk and start printing more anthologies, he could back up in Tales of the Unknown or something.

[mrc1214]

True, but I can't understand what's stopping good writers from picking up after other good writers.

Very good point I think Johns could handle alot of characters. Infact has he wrote anything bad that you know of?? I like IC so i know alot of people conisder that his 1st failure. And Waid is on 52 as well right??

[StoneGold]

True. I wouldn't mind seeing him getting dragged over to Vertigo for a mini-series. Or, if DC would grow some junk and start printing more anthologies, he could back up in Tales of the Unknown or something.
Publishing books that don't sell is growing junk? Got it.




Sorry, but they usually don't. Not for years.

[gary bolt]

BPRD The Universal Machine #5 was my favorite of the week (big developments handled with style) followed by Mouse Guard #4 (awesome illustrations!).

[Kid Omega]

Very good point I think Johns could handle alot of characters. Infact has he wrote anything bad that you know of??

Do you have a few hours?

[StoneGold]

AGENTS OF ATLAS 1 both being pleasant surprises.

Agents of Atlas was great, but there was one little thing bugging me about it. And it's really no one's fault, Marvel has had a really poor handle on the character for years. And it goes way before Quesada. But no one can ever figure out an age for Jimmy Woo. He fought the Claw in the 50s, but most of the time he's shown fairly young today, and that always bugs me. But other than that, the story was great.

[Tadhg Adams]

Do you have a few hours?

Dear Alex,

It doesn't take a few hours to type the word "Everything."

Sincerely,
Trix

[Takusa]

As much as I liked Spider-Man 2099 #12, I liked Ultimate Wolverine VS Hulk #1 more.

[bfrank]

Suecrow
Laugh out loud.....

[Ed Cunard]

Dear Alex,

It doesn't take a few hours to type the word "Everything."

Sincerely,
Trix

You shut it with your fancy fast "touch typing."

[mrc1214]

Dear Alex,

It doesn't take a few hours to type the word "Everything."

Sincerely,
Trix


You really think everything he wrote/writes was terrible?? Im not arguing cause everyone has their opinion but any reason why??

[Kid Omega]

You really think everything he wrote/writes was terrible?? Im not arguing cause everyone has their opinion but any reason why??


1. over-reliance on story concepts/continuity from the eighties

2. fan-wankery

3. paper thin characterizations

4. Meandering, poorly constructed plots

5. over-reliance on meaningless cliff-hangers/dramatic beats

6. Claremont-style dropping of sub-plots that have no bearing on anything

7. Did I mention fan-pandering?

8. no themes, points, or motifs to his work. It's all just soap opera rehashing of old stories.

9. He has no "voice" of his own. You could take any book he writes, put any name on it, and people would go "okay".

10. No understanding of human motivations as plot momentum. This is maybe his worst crime. In his books, people do things just 'cause, and that's how the story moves. It's ridiculous.

11. Yellow. Fear. Monster.

12. Things often just flat-out make no sense. I give you REBIRTH and INFINITE CRISIS... they make NO sense.

Other folks can freely add to the list...

[howyadoin]

Other folks can freely add to the list...I haven't read anything with his name on it in awhile, so I only heard this second-hand... but didn't he have some needlessly-elaborate plot explanation for Hal's grey hair?

[StoneGold]

I haven't read anything with his name on it in awhile, so I only heard this second-hand... but didn't he have some needlessly-elaborate plot explanation for Hal's grey hair?
It wasn't needlessly elaborate, unless you ignore all the rest of the stuff it was tied into. Just Parallax made him age prematurely. So it was tied into all the needlessly elaborate plot explanations, but the grey hair in and of itself was pretty simple.

[Ed Cunard]

I haven't read anything with his name on it in awhile, so I only heard this second-hand... but didn't he have some needlessly-elaborate plot explanation for Hal's grey hair?

Oh, yes--someone told me about that too. I hadn't laughed that hard in a while.

[howyadoin]

It wasn't needlessly elaborate, unless you ignore all the rest of the stuff it was tied into. Just Parallax made him age prematurely. So it was tied into all the needlessly elaborate plot explanations, but the grey hair in and of itself was pretty simple.Simpler than the idea that he had grey hair because he was old enough to have grey hair?

[mrc1214]

1. over-reliance on story concepts/continuity from the eighties
2. fan-wankery
3. paper thin characterizations
4. Meandering, poorly constructed plots
5. over-reliance on meaningless cliff-hangers/dramatic beats
6. Claremont-style dropping of sub-plots that have no bearing on anything
7. Did I mention fan-pandering?
8. no themes, points, or motifs to his work. It's all just soap opera rehashing of old stories.
9. He has no "voice" of his own. You could take any book he writes, put any name on it, and people would go "okay".
10. No understanding of human motivations as plot momentum. This is maybe his worst crime. In his books, people do things just 'cause, and that's how the story moves. It's ridiculous.
11. Yellow. Fear. Monster.
12. Things often just flat-out make no sense. I give you REBIRTH and INFINITE CRISIS... they make NO sense.

Other folks can freely add to the list...

Ill give you credit for giving examples instead of saying you just hate it. I liked Crisis. It got me back into comics. So you dont like Claremont either or just his plot dropping?? And just out of curiousity what books do you read? And couldnt you consider alot of comics rehashing of old events.

[howyadoin]

So you dont like Claremont either or just his plot dropping?I used to, till I realized how many of the ideas in his classic Uncanny run were stolen from other sources.

[StoneGold]

Simpler than the idea that he had grey hair because he was old enough to have grey hair?
No, but I wouldn't call it needlessly elaborate either. Now, you could call Parallax in general needlessly elaborate, but once you have that established, the hair was a minor extension from that. And Parallax wasn't there to explain the hair.

[Jack Zodiac]

Very good point I think Johns could handle alot of characters. Infact has he wrote anything bad that you know of?? I like IC so i know alot of people conisder that his 1st failure. And Waid is on 52 as well right??

Well, no one writer can always spin gold. For a long time I though Johns could do no wrong, but there've been a few misses in a few of his titles, like the dragging feeling from the last few years of JSA, despite the good stories, or some of the senselessness of Infinite Crisis. And yeah, Waid'll be part of 52 here and there. It's a fun group project.

Publishing books that don't sell is growing junk? Got it.

If it's taking a risk, it's growing junk. Marvel's doing alright with their couple of anthologies, and with the kind of talent DC has in its pool, I could see an anthology book with a target audience (like a Mystery in Space or House of Secrets) doing well enough. 52's been steady, but I think that's a special case considering the gap it's filling. Anyway, yeah... it'd take balls to attempt an ongoing anthology, so I stand by my rhetoric.

2. fan-wankery

6. Claremont-style dropping of sub-plots that have no bearing on anything

7. Did I mention fan-pandering?

10. No understanding of human motivations as plot momentum. This is maybe his worst crime. In his books, people do things just 'cause, and that's how the story moves. It's ridiculous.

11. Yellow. Fear. Monster.

12. Things often just flat-out make no sense. I give you REBIRTH and INFINITE CRISIS... they make NO sense.

Plowed! Yeah, I'll give ya' that his books smack of a bit of fan wankin'. I understand it, though. The guy was a nerd who grew up on comics and crapped when he got the chance to write The Flash (who I stand by to counter your paper-thin characterization comment, 'cause I loved his Wally West). And yeah, most of the villains he used in JSA were typical "I'm evil 'cause I wanna' blow some shit up" kinda' guys, like Johnny Sorrow and Extant and Per Degaton. However, again, I stand by his run on The Flash for decent character-motivated villains. His rogue stories were great.

And yeah... Rebirth was somethin'. They could've simplified it so much and just brough Hal back saying he'd been redeemed as The Spectre, and it would've been gravy. The retconning his behaviour from Coast City's destruction and on was as ridiculous as the story that spawned it. And, I agree, his greatest foul-up of all was dropping interesting plots right after they started to seem really interesting. Like Roulette, the daughter of the original Mr. Terrific. Could've been a great story.

I used to, till I realized how many of the ideas in his classic Uncanny run were stolen from other sources.

His old stuff? The stuff that didn't suck? What'd he steal, if you can remember?

[howyadoin]

His old stuff? The stuff that didn't suck? What'd he steal, if you can remember?Off the top of my head, the Hellfire Club is lifted entirely from an old episode of the British Avengers TV show, and the Brood are a pretty blatant Aliens ripoff.

There were also a ton of little things swiped from Frank Herbert's Dune books, but I can't remember the specifics at the moment.

[Jack Zodiac]

Yeah, the Brood are definitely Geiger design rip-offs. The Brood's habits, though, predate some of the "Aliens" stuff, like the way they live and act as a hive and how their offspring take on the characteristics of their hosts. And I never watched "The Avengers," so I don't know what the Hellfire Club connection is there.

I'm gonna' have to look this up, though. I loved Herbert's Dune, so I'm interested to see what little things Claremont used over the years.

[howyadoin]

I never watched "The Avengers," so I don't know what the Hellfire Club connection is there.The connection is, he stole the whole thing, and even used character names, if I remember correctly. I'm sure he'd justify that as an homage, though.

[Jack Zodiac]

I got curious and looked it up on Wikipedia, and it certainly seems like an homage (using the actors' real names as the characters' names, and basing the Hellfire Club itself on the actual club), but again, I never saw "The Avengers," so he could've stolen everything from looks to mannerisms for all I know.

[howyadoin]

I got curious and looked it up on Wikipedia, and it certainly seems like an homage (using the actors' real names as the characters' names, and basing the Hellfire Club itself on the actual club), but again, I never saw "The Avengers," so he could've stolen everything from looks to mannerisms for all I know.Well, I'm not real big on the "homage" defense, I guess. To me it smacks of Liefeldism.

[mrc1214]

Since you guys were talking about stolen from other sources. Was Squadron Supreme intended to be like the JLA. There were differences but the basic concept of the character were exactly like the JLA. I liked it but i did feel it was ripped off. Anyone know if there was reasoning behind ??

[hoffmandu]

Dynaic Nunchaku. It wins cuz it was the only book I read last week. Oh well, taught me how to twirl some chucks in my spare time, and when the time comes, save the day. Now where's my orange headband/cowel.

[Kid Omega]

I got curious and looked it up on Wikipedia, and it certainly seems like an homage (using the actors' real names as the characters' names, and basing the Hellfire Club itself on the actual club), but again, I never saw "The Avengers," so he could've stolen everything from looks to mannerisms for all I know.


Find the episode and watch it. It will make you cringe at how much of a rip the X-Men stuff is. Blatant.

[Kid Omega]

Since you guys were talking about stolen from other sources. Was Squadron Supreme intended to be like the JLA. There were differences but the basic concept of the character were exactly like the JLA. I liked it but i did feel it was ripped off. Anyone know if there was reasoning behind ??

Squadron Supreme was an inside joke between the editors and writers of JLA and the AVENGERS at the time.

They are intended to be the JLA, straight up. Just as the Sh'iar Imperial Guard is the Legion.

Inside Jokes.

[Kid Omega]

And couldnt you consider alot of comics rehashing of old events.

I would not, no. Please elaborate.

[Ed Cunard]

Well, I'm a little behind, but so far it's been the first third of the 30th Anniversary issue of The Comics Journal. The only other things I read comicswise were the latest Young Avengers, the Morrison Batman, and Jonah Hex, and I didn't really care for Devil In The White City, the book I was reading.

The first third of TCJ, though? All about the history, trials and tribulations of the direct market, Alex Toth appreciations and obituaries, a half-finished Alex Toth interview that was beautiful (meaning Gary Groth and Alex Toth don't talk, they argue and sling barbs at one another--highly entertaining). I haven't even gotten to the big interview section yet, but it looks pretty good too.

[mrc1214]

I would not, no. Please elaborate.

Thanks for the Squadron info. I dont know if i should have said rehashing instead of how boring some of them are. Like the FF for example how many times to I need to see Reed and Sue arguing. Wolverine can get boring to me with how he now the almighty and nothing can stop him. Spiderman, New Avengers, all very boring to me.

[Kid Omega]

I dont know if i should have said rehashing instead of how boring some of them are. Like the FF for example how many times to I need to see Reed and Sue arguing. Wolverine can get boring to me with how he now the almighty and nothing can stop him. Spiderman, New Avengers, all very boring to me.


I would suggest you expand your horizons. there are many many comics out there, and not all of them are about the Sub-Mariner's thousandth rage at the surface world, if you get my point.

[Jack Zodiac]

Find the episode and watch it. It will make you cringe at how much of a rip the X-Men stuff is. Blatant.

I'll look it up, but quite honestly, I'm not that interested. I found the Hellfire Club to be one of the most boring groups in X-Men history, and their storylines lasted far longer than they should have. The fact that they're still kickin' as X-Men villains is a wonder to me.

Well, I'm a little behind, but so far it's been the first third of the 30th Anniversary issue of The Comics Journal. The only other things I read comicswise were the latest Young Avengers, the Morrison Batman, and Jonah Hex, and I didn't really care for Devil In The White City, the book I was reading.

Young Avengers was great, and I can't wait for the next series to launch. I just hope they either get Heinberg to stick to a schedule, or fall back on releasing them as maxi-series. They were in one of the Civil War crossovers, Young Avengers/Runaways, so I'm glad to see other writers using them. On top of that, the issue got me interested enough to look into the Runaways and their book. So if you haven't read that yet, I'd recommend it, too.

Allen also won Favorite Breakout Talent in Wizard's Fan Awards.

[mrc1214]

I would suggest you expand your horizons. there are many many comics out there, and not all of them are about the Sub-Mariner's thousandth rage at the surface world, if you get my point.

Thats what im trying to go but i need to start getting TPBs. Books like the League of Extraordinary Gentleman, Seven Soldiers, Astro City, Hellboy etc. I do read Usagi Yojimbo and think its great. All the DC titles i get i like alot. The only Marvel book ill get TPBs for is Runaways because its so highly recommended. But as far as rehashing i do feel like ive read whats going on in Astonishing X-Men a couple times before but i could be wrong.

[howyadoin]

A few other books I'm really diggin' lately: Battler Britton, The Leading Man, and Wormwood: Gentleman Corpse.

[Winslow]

Battler Britton

I've enjoyed Ennis' War Stories Vertigo trades. I need to try this out.

Oh - and I read trades - so the week to week thingy doesn't work for me. Last week I read Usagi Yojimbo 20 at like the 19 before it, it rocked.

[howyadoin]

I've enjoyed Ennis' War Stories Vertigo trades. I need to try this out.Yeah, you really do. I read the first two BB issues tonight, and they're top-notch war comics.

[Michael P]

Agents of Atlas was great, but there was one little thing bugging me about it. And it's really no one's fault, Marvel has had a really poor handle on the character for years. And it goes way before Quesada. But no one can ever figure out an age for Jimmy Woo. He fought the Claw in the 50s, but most of the time he's shown fairly young today, and that always bugs me.
On t'other hand, they pretty much put an end to that problem with this story, didn't they?

And I agree about the lack of use of Zauriel. Heck, the fact that he's a superhero who's an angel is one of the reasons I find him so darn compelling. I'd love to take a crack at him.

[JeffreyWKramer]

But as far as rehashing i do feel like ive read whats going on in Astonishing X-Men a couple times before but i could be wrong.

You're not wrong. ASTONISHING X-MEN is a very good homage book, but it's still that more than anything else. Whedon's love of the Claremont/Byrne-era UNCANNY X-MEN is evident all through BUFFY - hell, he admitted the "Dark Willow" storyline was a homage to "Dark Phoenix" as much as anything - and on ASTONISHING he brings it back to the source.

ASTONISHING is still a good book, IMHO. It's a demonstration that things need not be wildly new and creative to be entertaining, and good in their own way. But, wildly creative it ain't.

[mrc1214]

You're not wrong. ASTONISHING X-MEN is a very good homage book, but it's still that more than anything else. Whedon's love of the Claremont/Byrne-era UNCANNY X-MEN is evident all through BUFFY - hell, he admitted the "Dark Willow" storyline was a homage to "Dark Phoenix" as much as anything - and on ASTONISHING he brings it back to the source.

ASTONISHING is still a good book, IMHO. It's a demonstration that things need not be wildly new and creative to be entertaining, and good in their own way. But, wildly creative it ain't.

Its entertaining yeah, but i would just rather spend my money on something else.

[Michael P]

I guess you and me are the only ones who like Uncanny because everyone else bitched about it.
I liked it too. I don't know why everyone was so bitchy about Clayton Henry's art. Just because the man doesn't cross-hatch is no reason to get snippy.

[TinMan]

I guess you and me are the only ones who like Uncanny because everyone else bitched about it.

Nah, theres a lot of people on the X-Boards that are loving it.

[mrc1214]

I liked it too. I don't know why everyone was so bitchy about Clayton Henry's art. Just because the man doesn't cross-hatch is no reason to get snippy.

The other things people complained about was how easily Vulcan won. I think it was intended to be that way.

[Forefinger]

Nah, theres a lot of people on the X-Boards that are loving it.
And they suck too!


No, I'm kidding I'm glad that they have gotten good again, I just got turned off to anything X related, so odds are I'll never pick up another X book. Same thing with Spider-Man, Superman, and others that I've grown out of over the years.

*edit* whoa. That's weird. I was editing my post and then it posted it again!

[TinMan]

The other things people complained about was how easily Vulcan won. I think it was intended to be that way.

Agreed, Brubaker was showing what Vulcan is capable of, but he did get tired after destroying the first two ships, so we know his power isn't limitless. Some people just bitch about everything rather than enjoying a story.

[Forefinger]

Yeah, I'll usually just drop titles when I get frustrated or lose interest in them, theres no sense in puttin the money into it if you aren't enjoying reading it.
I'm stuck with books that I'll never read again due to my continuing to buy shit out of habit.

[mrc1214]

I'm stuck with books that I'll never read again due to my continuing to buy shit out of habit.

What do you read then more indy books?? I dropped half my Marvel titles because they suck. Marvel really need new writers on Spiderman,FF, New Avengers. I wont read them until they get new writers which doesnt seem like its happening.

[Forefinger]

What do you read then more indy books?? I dropped half my Marvel titles because they suck. Marvel really need new writers on Spiderman,FF, New Avengers. I wont read them until they get new writers which doesnt seem like its happening.
I just stopped buying most comics in general. I've also started collecting some titles that I like exclusivly in TPB format. Eventually my goal is to only buy a few titles that I really enjoy reading, exclusivly in TPB format. Buying monthly comics is a tough habit to break though.

[mrc1214]

I just stopped buying most comics in general. I've also started collecting some titles that I like exclusivly in TPB format. Eventually my goal is to only buy a few titles that I really enjoy reading, exclusivly in TPB format. Buying monthly comics is a tough habit to break though.

It will save you some money buying your titles like that. I think comics are going to die out in general if they dont start getting more kids involved. But the prices and the stupid big events are too much for them too afford. There targeting an older group which is good but its going to catch up with them eventually.

[Forefinger]

It will save you some money buying your titles like that. I think comics are going to die out in general if they dont start getting more kids involved. But the prices and the stupid big events are too much for them too afford. There targeting an older group which is good but its going to catch up with them eventually.
I agree. I'm thinking that eventually print comics will go away and that people will download them off the internet or something.


Marvel has raised the price of their trades to 18 to 19 bucks a TPB. So if you are buying one that has 6 issues, and the regular books cost $ 3 each, you aren't getting any savings.

I just prefer to read books in TPB format.

[Brian Cronin]

I certainly don't mind some friendly back and forths where people who are friendly with each other tease each other. As, well, come on, that's just plain ol' good fun.

But there's a certain point where the joke goes too far, and "You're a piece of shit!" is just about that level. So just keep that in mind in the future.

-Brian

[howyadoin]

I'm stuck with books that I'll never read again due to my continuing to buy shit out of habit.That's a pretty bad habit, and the main reason I don't pre-order or have a pull list. If I decide to drop a book it's gone, and I'll go look for something else to try instead.

[K'Nort]

Wormwood: Gentleman Corpse.

How is that? I pre-ordered it (love Templesmith) and it didn't make it and I don't know whether it's worth trying again. (I didn't prepay.)

[howyadoin]

How is that? I pre-ordered it (love Templesmith) and it didn't make it and I don't know whether it's worth trying again. (I didn't prepay.)It's really, really good.

[Forefinger]

That's a pretty bad habit, and the main reason I don't pre-order or have a pull list. If I decide to drop a book it's gone, and I'll go look for something else to try instead.
I have a pull box so that I make sure to get copies of a couple of books that aren't real big sellers. But I have no problem telling comicbookguy that I don't want something anymore. I guess I do buy whatever he specifically ordered for me though, out of guilt.

[Forefinger]

I certainly don't mind some friendly back and forths where people who are friendly with each other tease each other. As, well, come on, that's just plain ol' good fun.

But there's a certain point where the joke goes too far, and "You're a piece of shit!" is just about that level. So just keep that in mind in the future.

-Brian
Sorry Brian. TinMan and I have already discussed toning it down here on the Comm board. I guess some of the old habits die hard.

[Sophisticated_Gamer]

for me it has to be planet hulk #97 :D

[mrc1214]

for me it has to be planet hulk #97 :D

That was a good book wrong thread though. The 8/9 one is up.