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mattbib
08-02-2006, 07:43 AM
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CHALLENGE 4: ICON

Good morning, designers!

Behind every great superhero is a great costume. For your fourth challenge you will be redesigning the look of a beloved superheroine: Power Girl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Girl).

Power Girl has a long, convoluted history. Originally created to be little more than Superman's blonde bombshell of a cousin, she's since been retconned into being a descendant of Atlantis, and most recently as a refugee from Earth-2. You are to create an iconic costume for Power Girl, one that establishes her as an easily-recognizable character and elevates her to the pantheon of heroes that includes Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman.

Submission Requirements

Artwork may be done in any medium but should be in color. In other words, if you submit a black-and-white drawing the costume must be black and white.
Artwork may be no larger than 550-pixels wide and 800-pixels long.
Entries must be inserted into your post, as opposed to attached, using such services as Photobucket.com or imageShack.com. If you are unable to use such a service you may e-mail (mattbib@comcast.net) your entry and we will host the image for you for the duration of the competition.
All submissions should include a written description of the costume, explaining, to the best of your ability, material, functionality, design inspiration, etc.
You have only five days, through Midnight PDT of Sunday, August 6, to post your design within this thread. Failure to complete this challenge will result in immediate elimination from CBR Project Runway. There will be no extensions or exceptions.

Post any questions, comments, or concerns about this challenge in this thread, however please do not comment on submissions until the voting thread is posted this coming Monday.

Designers, make it work!

atoningunifex
08-02-2006, 08:06 AM
Isn't this bascially the same challenge as last week? Last week we had to take a character known primarily for her large breasts and make her more mainstream. Now we have to take a character known primarily for her large breasts and make her iconic.

mattbib
08-02-2006, 08:09 AM
Isn't this bascially the same challenge as last week? Last week we had to take a character known primarily for her large breasts and make her more mainstream. Now we have to take a character known primarily for her large breasts and make her iconic.Conceptually the challenge is similar. But from a design and goal standpoint? I'd say no.

Gonzogoose
08-02-2006, 09:46 AM
No, last week's was about taking an obscure character (to general audiences) and making her appeal to a wider audience. This week it's taking a popular mainstream character and making her iconic enough to hang with the most popular mainstream characters in existence. A little different.

This is going to be a hard one I think. I just wrote a column on creating an iconic character, so it's funny this should be our challenge. :)

ScottDMSimmons
08-02-2006, 01:13 PM
I love Power Girl.

I might have this one in earlier because of my wedding on Sunday. Good thing I know of a few elements I'd like to include already. I'll have to think of some stuff before starting the drawing.

Scott

atoningunifex
08-03-2006, 09:56 PM
http://alyxchance.com/powergirlfinal.jpg

Here's my design.

I used the traditional Power Girl colors of white, blue and red. I changed it up a little and used the red to emphasize the white which in turn empahsizes her most-discussed attributes. I wanted to retain the playful sexiness of the character while at the same time creating a more mature and streamlined look.

I restyled PG's hair into something a little more glamorous. I replaced the cape with a jacket that is very open in the front and wraps around in back and comes forward again to form a skirt. The skirt is fastened with a sigil that I created for the character. The sigil represents the differing origins of the character and her retcon survival. Again, the traditional colors are used.

I made the gloves and boots smaller and sleeker. The white bodysuit underneath the jacket has a plunging neckline that is slightly reminiscent of the Superman sigil (at least at the bottom).

When designing this I wanted to focus more on the Power and less on the Girl.

mattbib
08-03-2006, 11:02 PM
Dude...I love it. And I think this is the first drawing I've personally commented on in the contest. The logo/sigil is tops...it's what a character needs to become iconic. I'm not too keen on the boots, but otherwise definitely a great design.

Affinity
08-04-2006, 01:29 AM
I love Power Girl a lot as a character, she's great (and recently she's ALREADY hanging with the big guns, IMO). Nice choice, Matt, though I was hoping for another OC.

Anyway...

ATONING! Wow! I love the collar, first of all. It's so 60s, Star Trek TOS Yeoman uniform, I love it. The hair is especially great. Awesome. Someone's got my vote so far!

howyadoin
08-04-2006, 01:36 AM
That is pretty hot. I think the boots should be pointier, though.

bakla
08-04-2006, 12:19 PM
Dude...I love it. And I think this is the first drawing I've personally commented on in the contest. The logo/sigil is tops...it's what a character needs to become iconic. I'm not too keen on the boots, but otherwise definitely a great design.
Atoning is the quickest draw in these challenges (pun intended) - always first with the designs. And this particular one is very you, Matt. Your own costume redesigns sport a similarly clean/spare aesthetic, plus you do like looser skirt-like motifs.

I always liked Power Girl myself, but I'm very attached to her original costume - thre's something aabout those Cockrum-esque foldover boots, gauntlets and cut-out breast opening that just smacks of Super Hero to me. Must be because that's when I grew up reading comics. Anyhow, I have difficulty imaging something "iconic" for her since her original outfit seems that way to me. I myself can think of multiple fashion variations, but iconic is harder to grasp, because I don't think there are many iconic looks among female superheroes, save for Wonder Woman. People may blur the fine line between tradional and iconic, which isn't the same thing (I might think Mary Marvel is iconic, but not really). This challenge should be interesting. I'm particularly interested in seeing what Veggie Goat will come up with.

atoningunifex
08-04-2006, 12:47 PM
Anyhow, I have difficulty imaging something "iconic" for her since her original outfit seems that way to me.

This is how I felt as well. I spent hours at work just trying to figure out a way to do an iconic look for Power Girl that wasn't reminiscent of her original costume. As you can see, I eventually just went with it.

And I'm only the fastest because I have to be. The Wacom tablet doesn't work with my computer anymore and I don't have a scanner. So I have until Friday morning to get something drawn to scan at work. Nothing like a deadline to get the juices flowing!

.::OkieDokieArtichokie::.
08-05-2006, 04:48 PM
Okay so "iconic" pretty much means "boobs". Thus, my entry is self-explanatory: BOOOOOBS!!!!!!!!!

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/868/powergirlalternatecy2.jpg




Heh, no, just kidding. As hot as that drawing is, I dont think it counts.



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http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/6803/powergirlqe6.jpg

I, like everyone else, found Power Girl's costume pretty iconic already. So this was a tough one for me. I decided to keep the basic white as a base color. Of course you can't have traditional/iconic without "primary colors" (Superman, Wolverine, the Flash, Spiderman, Wonder Woman, even Batman's blue and yellow little number from back in the day). So I chose to use yellow and blue. No red. It looks ugly on her.

Another thing I associate with pretty iconic females is the breast-size. So... I let her keep her big breasts. maybe they aren't ginormous compared to some artists, but for my style that's pretty darn big. And her cutout? It's a much cuter star. I think the circle was too forgettable. She also gets to be showing her cute tummy but she still has enough clothing to be more than an excuse to draw naughty-bits.

She has a matching star on her belt with a "P!" on it. Simple, memorable, and it makes it's point. And of course she keeps her (now blue) cape. Capes kick so much arse. Yay for capes! She also graduated to high heels. The ultimate in feminine footwear, yet symbolic of power and poise.

She gets a tousled little bob because I really feel it fits her personality and that is very important to making a character just "feel right". And I gave her a golden little design thingy on her right thigh of stars (which extend all the way around) and a single lightening bolt.

Oh yeah, and I tried very hard to NOT make this scream "manga!" For branching out of my day-to-day style I am pretty okay with how this came out (rare for me) so hopefully it wont do too poorly. I did just about all of this in a day. Except adding in the clouds (and a few minor details). I had drawn those for another picture a long time ago and never used them. Just randomly painted clouds sitting on my desktop and I figured they'd finally have a use now. All in all this was a quickie little experiment and don't lay into me TOO badly.

... I'd do her. >_>

EDIT: Oh my gosh hearts to me for deadlining the whole thing! <3<3<3<3 That's like... the best part of the picture. Sometimes you are just in the mood for that kind of look, eh?

Vegetarian Goat
08-06-2006, 04:23 PM
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e309/VegetarianGoat/Runway4.jpg

ok.. Description time!

To me, an iconic character is more than the visual- it's the whole package. It's the story- the intent of the character that make the visual mean what it does, and not the other way around. And that's why i spent a great deal of time finding out about Power Girl's origins before i went into the design... i wanted her design to reflect her iconic origins..

Only, i found out her origins weren't so iconic. In fact, they were fairly unorganized, and were quite flotsam-y. So, i figured instead of designing an iconic look for a decidedly un-iconic character, i'd do my best to shape up the motives and intent of the character to match the visual. Power Girl purists beware- you may hate this. But i feel it's a much stronger origin, and a much more interesting character than the Power Girl we were meant to design for:

Basically, I imagine Karen Starr as a college student (Metropolis U!) who's obsessed with her home-town hero, Superman. In a desperate bid to get his attention (and his favor. Ooo!) she becomes entangled in one of his hairier adventures- Lex Luthor is on the hunt for the rarest of all kinds of Kryptonite- UltraViolet Kryptonite.

(Yes, i realize there's no such thing as UV-K. I made it up. It's basically white, with a purple-ish glow.) UV-K is a form of K that has been affected by Solar radiation the way Superman is- it's a form of mutant K, in a sense. Basically, it's capable of bestowing superhuman abilities to a human the way the sun bestows them to a kryptonian. The only catch- the "victim" loses all sense of self- in effect, he/she becomes a kryptonian in body and mind.

So Lex is on the hunt for this rare kind of K (for obvious reasons), except Karen inadvertently finds it, and is exposed to it first, gaining all the powers of Superman, and coming to the false belief that she's a relative or *gulp* mate for Superman. Superman destroys that chunk of UV-K before Lex can use it, and immediately feels responsible for Karen, who's suddenly bursting with power, and has no memory of who she is.

The problem is, her old life hasn't been erased. There's overwhelming evidence that pegs her as a human, not a Kryptonian. Suddenly, she's a stranger in her own body, with no way of completely regaining what she's lost. This struggle with identity- the loss of self, and trying to regain, is what would hopefully connect with audiences. Superman, Batman, Spider-Man- all iconic characters. They all speak to raw, human emotions and situations, and that's why we as readers have the attachment we do to those characters. Sure, they all have smashing good costumes, but without the contextual knowledge of why those costumes are important, i guarantee they'd be less iconic.

As for the design elements i chose and the reasons why:

I didn't want to change that much. i agree with everyone who said that her costume is already pretty iconic to those that even know the character exists. Also- i don't know why, but i've always thought of Power Girl as kind of the superhero epitome of the 60's Mod movement. Hence, certain elements to the costume: The choker, the heavy eyeliner, the plastic shiny go-go boots, the belt/hemline of the skirt. The abstract design elements (the circles)...

I felt that this kind of look could remain cemented in a certain time period (the way Batman is cemented in Art Deco, and Doc Strange is cemented in 60's Psychedelia), but could also reflect current fashion trends, depending on the artistic interperetation- adaptation to different styles is always important for an iconic character.

Also, a good iconic character NEEDS (as both Chad and Okie have superbly pointed out) a strong, easily recognizable, marketable symbol, a la Superman's "S", Batman's Bat, Spider-Man's Spider, Captain America's.... uh... America....

So i gave Power Girl an abstracted star. Very similar to Okie's, in a sense, and i kind of feel like i should've changed it since she put hers up before i did.. but if we both did it, there must be something to the idea. Stars have a way of representing the idea of power- of calling that idea to the mind of anyone who sees it. But i wanted to make mine more than a star- maybe a double meaning type of thing. I toyed with the idea of making it P shaped, but i couldn't find a design that i liked, so i abstracted it to the point where it could look like a beam of some sort, hitting a surface and splashing, also (hopefully) recalling the abstract idea of power. This star is found on both her amulet, and also on the right hip of her belt/skirt.

The white of her costume should always have a purple-ish glow/hue to it, but remain fundementally white, to recall the appearance of UV-K.

Also, i really wanted her to have a little cape. I like little capes.

Vegetarian Goat
08-06-2006, 04:25 PM
And for the record- i love Okie's. Do you have a website somewhere? Or a DeviantArt page?

.......and do you take requests? ;)

.::OkieDokieArtichokie::.
08-06-2006, 05:43 PM
And for the record- i love Okie's. Do you have a website somewhere? Or a DeviantArt page?

.......and do you take requests?

Hehe, thanks :)

I'm sure yours is awesome too, but I would know for sure because I CANT STOP LOOKING AT ANYTHING BUT THE HAIR! Oh. My. God. I want. Her hair. *drools*

Heh, but seriously it all looks stellar. She looks like a little fashionista/mod girl. Actually the whole thing looks like a professional fashion design/ character model.


Oh and... I have a dA page. But it's ugly and I hate it and nobody is allowed to see it ever. :(

Vegetarian Goat
08-06-2006, 05:56 PM
Hehe, thanks :)

I'm sure yours is awesome too, but I would know for sure because I CANT STOP LOOKING AT ANYTHING BUT THE HAIR! Oh. My. God. I want. Her hair. *drools*

Heh, but seriously it all looks stellar. She looks like a little fashionista/mod girl. Actually the whole thing looks like a professional fashion design/ character model.

Hehe. I'm glad you noticed the mod influence... i haven't even had time to write up my description yet, but if you're picking up on it, then i must've done my job right! Thanks a bunch!

Oh and... I have a dA page. But it's ugly and I hate it and nobody is allowed to see it ever. :(

Aww... that's no fun! Your stuff for this competition has been awesome! how can your dA page be ugly? Is it the green? It's all the green, isn't it...

.::OkieDokieArtichokie::.
08-06-2006, 06:44 PM
Well the green is so ugly that it distracts you from my awful pictures. So I actually appreciate it.

And you like TMNT? <3! I didn't think anybody did anymore :( I hope we get to redesign THEM. My Raphie-poo is gonna be wearing.... Um... Me. Hehe :D

atoningunifex
08-06-2006, 08:00 PM
Oh and... I have a dA page. But it's ugly and I hate it and nobody is allowed to see it ever. :(

If you win Project CBRunway you have to let us see the Deviant Art page. No more of this false modesty crap, young lady. *taps foot* Are we clear on this?

;)

.::OkieDokieArtichokie::.
08-06-2006, 08:06 PM
If you win Project CBRunway you have to let us see the Deviant Art page. No more of this false modesty crap, young lady. *taps foot* Are we clear on this?

*bites*

I wont win. Not in a million bajillion years.


What does cativant mean? Somebody used it to insult my art (I think) and it apparently is very foreign or very made-up.

My modesty is not false. It comes from years of having eyesight and taste (the... judgement kind... not the tongue kind).


*wanders off babbling*

Gonzogoose
08-07-2006, 12:57 AM
Mine's coming, I'm just waiting for it to upload into imageshack. My PC froze as I was uploading it. Sorry.

Gonzogoose
08-07-2006, 12:59 AM
http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/204/powergirl1fa7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Description coming. Ran out of time evident by the unfinished coloring job... and I'll reduce the size. Please bear with me. If this disqualifies me then that's cool.

Okay, like everyone else, this was hard for me. I literally went through 12 different designs trying to find one more iconic than the original, but they were all too similar, and I wanted to do something more unique.

On the final design I literally went through 6 variations and three color schemes before settling on this.

Now, I wanted to keep the spirit of the original and the sex appeal, but make her more majestic and, of course, iconic. I look at PG as the rebel/wayward child/black sheep of the Superman family, and so she couldn't have the same appearance as Supes or Supergirl, but I still wanted her to be recognizable as part of that mythos.

The cutout on the chest is an altered design of the Superman symbol, and the blue trim on it separates her from them even further. Had I been able to finish the logo in time, which goes on the back of the cape, It would have kept the yellow face and had a stylistic "PG" in it.

At first I had the red as the dominant color, but I felt the white was both more true to her personality and that it stood out more, so I switched them. It still wasn't bold enough, so I added the blue trim to set it off.

I toyed with gloves, but I felt the wristbands denoted a more powerful and timeless being.

The boots are the classic Supes boots more or less, only blue because red just seemed to bland.

The reason the left arm is covered was a stylistic one, nothing more. I wanted to make her hip and modern as well as iconic, and that seemed to almost do it, and the slanted skirt part finished that goal.

The full red cape was overkill, and no other solid color seemed right, so I went with the two-toned look. The red is still there and is strikingly bold, but the white really makes her pop when it's spread out.

I kept the hair short, but not quite as short. I was going for the Kate Beckinsale look in Underworld, but of course here it's blowing in the wind, and the coloring job on it is horrible. :)

I was a little concerned about the red, white and blue motif, but I really hoped the yellow would break that up. I'm not sure if I pulled that off or not, but ultimately I'm happy with it. She looks iconic, hip, still sexy, but not too cheap. I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out.

I will post some of the designs I went through on my blog tomorrow.

[Edit: Here's an updated version and tough of the logo if it's allowed. http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/633/powergirl1smallcy0.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=powergirl1smallcy0.jpg) http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5575/powergirllogosmalllo3.th.gif (http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=powergirllogosmalllo3.gif)]

.::OkieDokieArtichokie::.
08-07-2006, 01:07 AM
:( Where's Scott?

Gonzogoose
08-07-2006, 02:17 AM
Scott got married today. He knew he might not make it, so that's what's up.

(And just so no one thinks mine's a photo manip, here are the pencils: http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5343/powergirlpencilset5.th.jpg (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=powergirlpencilset5.jpg)]

.::OkieDokieArtichokie::.
08-07-2006, 02:47 AM
Scott got married today. He knew he might not make it, so that's what's up.

So he said. But he was gonna post one earlier. I had just assumed he was waiting till the last minute to throw it up or have someone upload for him. I'm so disappointed.

I mean, seriously, this contest should easily take precedence over whatever boring thing a person could be doing on their wedding night. I'm sure there's just no comparison. ;)

Gonzogoose
08-07-2006, 02:50 AM
So he said. But he was gonna post one earlier. I had just assumed he was waiting till the last minute to throw it up or have someone upload for him. I'm so disappointed.

I mean, seriously, this contest should easily take precedence over whatever boring thing a person could be doing on their wedding night. I'm sure there's just no comparison. ;)

LOL. Yeah, well that was the plan, but he emailed me early, early this morning saying he didn't know if he'd make it. I was hoping he would, but ya know. I would have gladly posted it for him.

ScottDMSimmons
08-07-2006, 05:52 AM
I was hoping to make it in, but for anyone who has gotten married or even just been involved in planning a wedding, there is NO TIME. It goes fast, and there is so much to do and so many things you don't take into account that have to be thought up fast or on the fly just let go. So many people came into town from all over too and we were swept up in a whirlwind of activity and gatherings. This included some family Shannie hasn't seen in 15-20 years when she was a teenager, my mom's aunt and also her cousin I never had met before, and my dad who had in recent years battled cancer. We were pretty much tired every night we came home, especially Saturday (night before) and last night (day of). I'm up for just abit to touch base with you before sleeping again.

It was a BEAUTIFUL ceremony within a local park's gazebo, next to a cute lodge for the reception. Most everyone we had invited was there. After I sent all the grandparents and parents out on the arms of my best friends, our little ring girl (Shannie's niece) and flower girl (my friend's daughter) made their way out too and I was "thrown out" of the lodge following behind the reverend. Shannie came out as our song "Our Favorite Adventure" by K's Choice played, and she looked so beautiful and was walked by her grandfather who is a great great guy. We said our "I do"s, exchanged rings, and performed a sand ceremony, which was really cool and had some people talking about it afterwards. We were introduced and went for photos. An hour later we went to the lodge, did our first dance and I danced with my mom, and she with her granddad. We had toasts, done so well by my friend Ken and her brother Kyle, and then we all ate (well, Shannie and I didn't so much--we were busy talking with everyone). Cake was up next... and I was bummed I didn't have but a piece (it was Bonbonerie-- the best Cincy cake people). We did the Hokey Pokey with all the kids, gave our friends and the kids gifts, and I threw out a surprise dedication of YMCA to my old Hasbro boss, who is a personal trainer at the Y.... which got a big laugh from everyone who knows him. My adoptive father had a big surprise for me and got choked up when he was trying to say his speech which was in relation to his adopting me all those years ago. Bells went off every now and then for Shannon and me to kiss, and when I had the mic to introduce a song, I couldn't help but first tell Shannon how much I loved her.

The theme of the wedding was "The Art of Love", which was started out by my invitation, website, and table cards. Her mom helped continue the theme and had a book set out for people to add drawings, pictures or poems to. My buddy Mark showed us his great cartoon of us, and our niece showed us her poem... and we have yet to look at the others. My parents did a nice photo of us, framed and in sepia tone.

We got plenty of gifts, but I will always think that one of the biggest was my mom and dad getting my father to stay for the reception (he was originally only attending the ceremony), making him feel welcome and really he just had a blast. And of course the best wedding gift I got was Shannon and her love. And we celebrate five years together next month.

We got gobs of pictures since my dad (adoptive one) and I are photographers, we had photographer friends shooting the wedding, including our primary one, Steph Carson. Steph and her crew shoot weddings in photo-journalist style, and love to shoot fun and sometimes silly images... which works well for me and Shannon. My DJ, Dave Spiess, was someone I worked with when I was a wedding photographer and he did an awesome job for us!

Sorry I didn't make it in on time, Okie, Matt, Veg, Aton, and Brant! I wish you guys the best of luck with the contest and I'll be voting in the next few rounds. I hope you all can forgive me for not making it in, and have fun with the rest of the contest!

The professional pictures will be a few days. Here are a few pictures taken by a friend with a cell phone camera.

Scott

Shannon and me at our table:

http://www.scottdmsimmons.com/photo_080606_006.jpg

A more medium shot:

http://www.scottdmsimmons.com/photo_080606_005.jpg

ScottDMSimmons
08-07-2006, 06:07 AM
Me and my mom dancing:

http://www.scottdmsimmons.com/photo_080606_002.jpg

The cellphone cameraman and my birth dad:

http://www.scottdmsimmons.com/photo_080606_021.jpg

My dad telling Shannie's mom something funny:

http://www.scottdmsimmons.com/photo_080606_004.jpg

Fabian
08-07-2006, 06:17 AM
I was hoping to see your version of PowerGirl Scott. I was enjoying your entries and it's a shame if we've seen the last of them.

Congrats on getting married though. Now hurry up and finish your honeymoon before the next CBR contest.

atoningunifex
08-07-2006, 06:29 AM
Congratulations, Scott! Looks like it was a swell time!

Jack Flash
08-07-2006, 06:58 AM
wow congrats all around!

I love the symbol that Atoning's chosen. The colors pop. She's amazing and hip, yet classic and 60s all at once. The boobs are still there, but the cut out takes away from their enormity rather than spot-lighting them, even though she still has the biggest guns in the industry. The blue gloves and chunky boots are both wonderful touches. She looks like she's ready for the runway or for T.O. Morrow! I likes it!

Gonzo! This one is seriously your best yet. I can see that you're stepping up your game! The symbol/clasp on the belt is wonderful! and your chest cut out is like a cross between lips and a heart! Or is that my imagination, either way, they take a bit of the spot light off her boobs without making her less sexy. love the simple wrist protectors. my only criticism is that the skirt hangs a little wierd for me.

Okie Doke! Your style is amazing. it's cute. its hawt. The coloring always blows me away. Love the shoes. love the tatt. Love the star shaped cut away. My only worry is that I think her bottom might be a little too risque for me to call it iconic. The fact that you didn't use red, really makes your piece stand out from the field. incredible job!

Veggie Goat! Totally wow. I love the circle theme. The belt is amazing. The circles in the boots tie in so well. The one finger glove is really cool. The scarf and cool clasp make her feel updated yet like Okie Doke said earlier, there is a retro mod feel to the look as well. I love the symbol on the clasp. Great Job.

Scott! Congratulations on getting hitched! post your design in the play along at home thread when you get a chance! I really enjoyed your work in this contest!

ScottDMSimmons
08-07-2006, 07:50 AM
Thanks, guys!

We're not going on a honeymoon until next month (Labor Day weekend). Our schedules don't really allow it. She returns to work tomorrow, and I start teaching a new class tonight (6-10).

I can probably have Power Girl done late tonight or tomorrow during the daytime to show you folks.

We are also seeing a few family members off today. My mother-in-law, her husband, and my father are coming over this afternoon too. I think a few more people got added as I type.

Scott

.::OkieDokieArtichokie::.
08-07-2006, 08:42 AM
My only worry is that I think her bottom might be a little too risque for me to call it iconic.

Well what she ACTUALLY has now shows off her camel-toe and an awful lot of butt.

The only thing about her outfit-bottom in my drawing is that I turned the top part into a belt so the actual "bottoms" look small, but the belt is part of the panty things (like on my bathing suit), and around back they cover most of the butt. They are just low-lut looking in front. I'm trying to think of an example... But I cant. I just woke up.

It's easier to see they are normal cut if you had the belt be the same color and realize that it's just a part of the same fabric. IF you look, the fabric at the eges od her hips slopes down and widens, and it would become a full covering in the rear. I just made a visual belt by changing the colors. Then they are modest (in my opinion) compared the pics I saw of PG while researching this.

I just feel like a ho now because my bathing suit bottoms look like that and I dont think they're "slutty" :( I dunno. Hopefully I didn't blow it. Thanks for the feedback :)

mattbib
08-07-2006, 08:50 AM
Sorry I'm so late, all. I'm at camp for the week and had Safe Swim Defense/Safety Afloat training all morning, and the PCs that we adults can use are pretty old/slow. But here we are. The next challenge WILL be posted sometime Wednesday morning.

mattbib
08-07-2006, 08:57 AM
Oh, and congrats Scott!

And now we're down to four...

Jack Flash
08-07-2006, 10:16 AM
Well what she ACTUALLY has now shows off her camel-toe and an awful lot of butt.

The only thing about her outfit-bottom in my drawing is that I turned the top part into a belt so the actual "bottoms" look small, but the belt is part of the panty things (like on my bathing suit), and around back they cover most of the butt. They are just low-lut looking in front. I'm trying to think of an example... But I cant. I just woke up.

It's easier to see they are normal cut if you had the belt be the same color and realize that it's just a part of the same fabric. IF you look, the fabric at the eges od her hips slopes down and widens, and it would become a full covering in the rear. I just made a visual belt by changing the colors. Then they are modest (in my opinion) compared the pics I saw of PG while researching this.

I just feel like a ho now because my bathing suit bottoms look like that and I dont think they're "slutty" :( I dunno. Hopefully I didn't blow it. Thanks for the feedback :)


I don't think you blew it at all! It's gorgeous! I don't think it looked "Slutty". just risque. I guess in my mind there is a difference and a line! You didn't cross it.

bakla
08-07-2006, 10:38 AM
Well what she ACTUALLY has now shows off her camel-toe and an awful lot of butt.

The only thing about her outfit-bottom in my drawing is that I turned the top part into a belt so the actual "bottoms" look small, but the belt is part of the panty things (like on my bathing suit), and around back they cover most of the butt. They are just low-lut looking in front. I'm trying to think of an example... But I cant. I just woke up.

It's easier to see they are normal cut if you had the belt be the same color and realize that it's just a part of the same fabric. IF you look, the fabric at the eges od her hips slopes down and widens, and it would become a full covering in the rear. I just made a visual belt by changing the colors. Then they are modest (in my opinion) compared the pics I saw of PG while researching this.

I just feel like a ho now because my bathing suit bottoms look like that and I dont think they're "slutty" :( I dunno. Hopefully I didn't blow it. Thanks for the feedback :)
See, I think sexy is iconic for super-heroines. It just can't be too risque in any way that is unfamiliar to the audience. I have so many costume designs that people would consider too much, yet they show much less skin than Wonder Woman, who is definitely iconic. In other words, yours isn't too risque, although I wonder if it's iconic enough. However, iconic looks are tricky. It has a lot to do with familiarity and how it portrays the character properly, and not necessarily good design or good fashion. Obviously you want a mix of it all.

Gonzogoose
08-07-2006, 03:17 PM
Gonzo! This one is seriously your best yet. I can see that you're stepping up your game! The symbol/clasp on the belt is wonderful! and your chest cut out is like a cross between lips and a heart! Or is that my imagination, either way, they take a bit of the spot light off her boobs without making her less sexy. love the simple wrist protectors. my only criticism is that the skirt hangs a little wierd for me.

Thanks, Jack Flash! I really did want to bring it this round, so I'm glad everyone's liking it. And yeah, the symbol does kind of have the heart thing, which is what I kind of wanted. Hadn't noticed the lips look though, so maybe that is your imagination. ;) Point taken on the skirt. I actually originally had it as a half skirt only covering one leg, but after a while that looked stupid. So I wanted to keep that same flow, and make it curve upwards to fit the rest of the design. I like it, but that's me. :)

Scott, your wedding looked like it was a blast, I really wish I could have been there. Congratulations again, man, can't wait to see the rest of the pictures!

Gonzogoose
08-07-2006, 03:18 PM
As for my competitors, I've not really commented too much on previous rounds, and I won't here either until the contest is over because I feel that would be bad form. All I have to say about this round is that all are gorgeous art and designs, and I'm privileged to be judged among you all. Good luck!

Gonzogoose
08-07-2006, 06:34 PM
I posted some of the designs I went through before getting to the final version on my blog (link in my signature) if anyone wants to check them out.

.::OkieDokieArtichokie::.
08-07-2006, 06:36 PM
I posted some of the designs I went through before getting to the final version on my blog (link in my signature) if anyone wants to check them out.

Linkie no workie.

ScottDMSimmons
08-07-2006, 08:49 PM
Linkie no workie.

Try this: http://www.brantfowler.com/blog/blog.html

Brant, your link (currently as of 10:50PM--he'll fix it) leads to a web address with a slash at the end.

Gonzogoose
08-07-2006, 09:28 PM
Thanks for the correction, Scott, I'm fixing it now!

ScottDMSimmons
08-07-2006, 10:20 PM
No problem, Brant!

I'll be posting my design in the play along thread if anyone wants to see it.

I found time tonight to scan in the pencils which was as far as I got before the wedding stuff started up.

Scott