What Happens to Astonishing After....

[SincereAgape]

Joss Whedon and artist John Cassaday leave the book? It would be nice to Marvel to continue on with the title and keep it as their mainstay. Brubaker and Carey have done a great job with Uncanny and X-men, but I still believe that X-men will need that Level A type superstar writer.

Have there been any rumors on who might or if they will be replacing Whedon? Crosses fingers for Gaimen.

[Brian M.]

I believe it's staying. Someone big will take over the title. I'm hoping they put McNiven on art.

[Jake V]

The current rumor is Jeph Loeb and Michael Turner.

No, I'm not joking.

[Brian M.]

The current rumor is Jeph Loeb and Michael Turner.

No, I'm not joking.


I don't remember much of Loeb's writing but with a lot of it coming out soon I'll be able to refamiliarize myself with it. I could like that though. I'm simple.

[Nick Kal]

That's 4 titles for Loeb... that's not good. I love him, but his books are always late.

[Jake V]

That's 4 titles for Loeb... that's not good. I love him, but his books are always late.
Eh. Between being paired with slow artists, and his son, y'know, dying, I wouldn't put the blame squarely on his shoulders.

[Nick Kal]

Eh. Between being paired with slow artists, and his son, y'know, dying, I wouldn't put the blame squarely on his shoulders.

True.

As for Michale Turner.... blagh. Can you imagine how anorexic Kitty and Emma would look... well, just look at the Warsong covers...

[Brian M.]

True.

As for Michale Turner.... blagh. Can you imagine how anorexic Kitty and Emma would look... well, just look at the Warsong covers...


That's Silverstri.

[Nick Kal]

That's Silverstri.

Oh... I just looked again. True. More anorexic looking then... and generic.

[Young Avenger]

True.

As for Michale Turner.... blagh. Can you imagine how anorexic Kitty and Emma would look... well, just look at the Warsong covers...

I can imagine Kitty and Emma looking like Fathom wearing their respective costumes.

[Brian M.]

I can imagine Kitty and Emma looking like Fathom wearing their respective costumes.

I remember seeing a cover Turner did for DC of Power Girl I think it was and all I saw was her tits. They were bigger than her head.

[Jake V]

I remember seeing a cover Turner did for DC of Power Girl I think it was and all I saw was her tits. They were bigger than her head.
As they should be.

[Brian M.]

As they should be.


Good point, it was a beautiful cover.

[kate-pryde]

The current rumor is Jeph Loeb and Michael Turner.

No, I'm not joking.

Blah...

Joss really isn't that busy now, unless Wonder Woman or Goners get finally greenlit. You'd think he'd be able to keep going on Astonishing. It's not like when he was running three tv series at the same time his wife had a baby and he never slept.

Joss could do what he's doing with the Buffy Season 8 comics for Dark Horse- he's writing the outline for first 20 issues and the first couple issues and then having the former Mutant Enemy staff writers handle the actual writing for the rest of the issues. That kind of situation wouldn't be bad for Astonishing, and I wouldn't mind seeing someone like Tim Minear or Jane Espenson or "Ultimate" Drew Goddard co-writing Astonishing.

There were all those rumors that Joss had a ghost-writer for the Dangerous arc, but if Joss was colaborating with someone the fans trusted, I don't think that would be such a problem.

Someone should do a petition to get Joss to stay on Astonishing and post about it on Whedonesque...

[Babylon23]

If Michael Turner comes onto the book as artist, then I shall be departing. The last thing I want to see is the "Anorexic X-Men".

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Knowing that Pak has now been given two mini-series primarily featuring the Astonishing cast I would have thought that this was like his try out for Astonishing...:confused:

[Steven F.]

I would LOVE it if Michael Turner came to the book. He is one of the best artists in the field right now.

I don't see it happening though, since his cancer has come back again.

[jj9126]

Ouch, Loeb? That's certainly bad news. The guy has some talent but his books are just so bland.

Hopefully Marvel will land a more exciting creator (perhaps outside of the comic book world) prior to Whedon's departure.

What does everyone think the first Whedon plot to be retconned will be?

[Dioces]

Hopefully, they don't bring on Damon Lindelof or it will become a tri-monthly book :D

[fishtaco]

Love him or hate him, Chuck Austen created a large response from the fans. Maybe they'll bring him back. :p :D

[rilokyle]

I do love Michael Turner, but I highly doubt he'll come and pencil the series. Maybe a mini-series, but not Astonishing, because the books would be late every month, and Marvel is not big on having their books shipping late.

Michael's art is truly beautiful- I loved Fathom, and am currently enjoying Soulfire a lot. Its true that his females always look the same, but I still think they all look pretty.

[SincereAgape]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but there are times when I don't understand the hate Michael Turner gets. His art is beautiful, especially during his early Witchblade issues in which he told a great story as well.

As for Loeb as the writer....that would be awesome. His style is very simliar to Whedon's and the thing about Loeb is that he has great charcterization. In addition, even though Loeb runs through villian galleries like Terrell Owens changes teams - he does USE bad guys and reinvents them which is needed for the X-bad guys.

[jawbreaker]

anyone know if Marvel intends for the cast to stay the same regardless of who writes the book?

[Brian M.]

Love him or hate him, Chuck Austen created a large response from the fans. Maybe they'll bring him back. :p :D


You were this close, this close to being alright in my book. Now I hope you die. Die.

[Affinity]

Aw, I was going to say Damon Lindelof (like I said in the Ult. Hulk v Wolverine thread) if the guy can get his act together. I love Lost (and even though he's not the only writer on the show) it's great with the plots and stories, and Ult. Wolvie v Hulk was actually rather good considering we could have just had "RAWWWWR! SNIKT" and "HEY BUB LOLZ" or whatever. If they made him he would do good. But he's just another TV boy and they'd let him be the next Golden boy of Marvel, so that wouldn't work and we WOULD get it tri-monthly. Which hurts.

As for artists, I'd love to see

McNiven, Silvestri, perhaps Turner if he does a good job (did Superman/Batman Supergirl arc take forever to come out? Same team as UT said, I think), NO JIM LEE (Granted I love the art, but they're so solid and rigid backed and ghahgahzyha), and maybe...hmm, who was it that really struck me recently?

Oh yeah.

OLIVIER COIPEL, BABY! He did the Uncanny arc, he can do this!

[Vaal]

Michael's art is truly beautiful- I loved Fathom, and am currently enjoying Soulfire a lot. Its true that his females always look the same, but I still think they all look pretty.
If I'm going to see that many ribs, they better be smothered in BBQ sauce.

[Mariah]

If I'm going to see that many ribs, they better be smothered in BBQ sauce.
Omg, that's funny. You are so getting sigged.

[Sophisticated_Gamer]

If astonishing xmen got cancelled, i swear i will kill myself, i will stuff a shotgun up my ass and pull the triger, i swear...i mean for me who got into xmen recently, the astonishing is by far the most kick ass xmen ever!!!! All the other ones suck ( no offence to anyone)!

[milly3cat]

Brubaker and Carey have done a great job with Uncanny and X-men, but I still believe that X-men will need that Level A type superstar writer.
.

I don't want Brubaker on astonishing, I don't think he is good enough. Not a fan of uncanny or X men at the moment.

[Gene M.]

Love him or hate him, Chuck Austen created a large response from the fans. Maybe they'll bring him back. :p :D

I think this is the first time I've ever seen anyone use smileys in a post about Chuck Austen.

[Affinity]

Let alone Fish.

[e]dit

We've seen Carey write the Astonishing team wonderfully. That'd be nice if he could do both books. I think Marvel just plain LIKES Brubaker more, though.

[Madrox84]

Hmmm i dunno how i would feel about Loeb taking over as the writer on Astonishing X-Men... His stuff can be very hit and miss.

As for Turner on art, that would be cool.

As for other creative teams, what about Millar and McNiven?

[Ronin Gunslinger]

I say Millar/McNiven or BKV/Coipel, any would suit me. As long as it's written well and drawn by an artist i like, I'm fine with it.

[Affinity]

I don't know about BKV. I loooove this guy, but I didn't like that the X-Men got relatively owned by the Runaways, just as a plug for them. It was okay I guess.

His Ultimate run was fabulous and so, I guess I could be happy if he did it write. PUN! PUN! *five level alarm*

[Armless Penguin]

I love BKV, but I'm not sure he would take the job even if it were offered. He seems to be focusing more right now on characters he has created rather than other peoples' creations, so that might put him off. But then again, he is a huge Whedon fan.

[NewChad]

In keeping with the 'superstar' nature of Astonishing I think Loeb and Turner fit the bill - as long as Turner can keep the schedule - which with his cancer might be a problem.

I second (or third, or whatever we're up to) the McNiven call - great artist.

As for writers? Get Bryan Singer to do it instead of Ultimate X. Or get the other writers Doherty and whatsisname.

[Doodle Bob]

They should keep up the tradition of having "non-traditional" writers for Astonishing. I'm thinking Bryan Singer, Jon Favreau or Kevin Smith. Maybe they could coax Gene Wolfe or Robert Anton Wilson to write it...

[Editor]

If astonishing xmen got cancelled, i swear i will kill myself, i will stuff a shotgun up my ass and pull the triger, i swear...i mean for me who got into xmen recently, the astonishing is by far the most kick ass xmen ever!!!! All the other ones suck ( no offence to anyone)!

I hope it gets cancelled.


In all seriousness, I don't really think there NEEDs to be 3 X-titles. Of course they're all making money for Marvel so i doubt it will get cancelled, but i miss seeing Cyclops and Shadowcat on a more regular basis.

I want to see them in something EPIC. The small insular stories are fine but i don't like the way that Whedon has effectively kidnapped the characters meaning the other characters are having ALL the fun.

[Titan76]

As for other creative teams, what about Millar and McNiven?
The next project Millar has going with him is with Bryan Hitch again that has yet to be annouce.

Turner is only doing a mini for Marvel as part of his deal with them so don't expect to see him on Astonishing. Like wise with Silvestri who is also said to be doing only a mini series too.

Loeb also has four projects he will be doing. Ultimate Avengers Vols 3 & 4, Wolverine, and another I can't remember right now. So I don't see him doing this.

It will be interesting though to see who takes over this title after Whedon leaves. I hope Marvel can at least keep Cassaday on the book though.

[eggie]

I would love to see Millar and Hitch on Astonishing provided they give Hitch plenty of lead time.

[Soccerballer002]

Does anyone know why Whedon is leaving...just curious?

[Cayman]

Does anyone know why Whedon is leaving...just curious?

He's going back to his day job, I believe.

Cay

[Cayman]

I'd give it to Pak and McNiven.

Cay

[Micro]

I don't want to sound overly negative, but do we really need 3 core X-books? To many people, Astonishing has been the only decent X-book worth reading since 2004. Couldn't have Joss Whedon simply written X-Men or Uncanny? I think once Whedon leaves, we should let Astonishing go with him, and leave it as something special he worked on, and maybe one day in the future he can return to it. I think Marvel should focus on making Uncanny a 'superstar'(as someone said earlier) book, it used to be one, why not make it one agian. The way I see it Marvel has enough X-books to appeal to everyone if they market them right. I think Marvel should go back to the formula that worked with the X-Men:

Uncanny X-Men - Appeal to classic X-Men fans, and Astonishing fans. The book would deal with the core school, and team, aswell as mutant rights and PR. Similar to what is being done in Astonishing, but with a slightly larger, and changing roster.

X-Men - The Covert Action team. Would appeal to 3rd generation X-Men fan's(80's-90's fans) and feature characters made popular in that era. This book would be suited for Scott Lobdell or Fabian Nicieza fans.

Excalibur - The Claremont X-Men. I would give Claremont a few characters and have an international team of X-Men travel the world. I would put Alan Davis on art of course.

Generation NeX - This would be a combination of Generation X and New X-Men. I would have Cannonball leading the next generation of X-Men.

I think putting Loeb and Turner on an X-book is great idea, just not Astonishing. I don't think it's going to appeal to the same fanbase that like Whedon, and no matter how good it is, people will compare the two. This is why I think either a new book should be created for Loeb(Marvel loves new #1's anyways) or simply put Loeb and Turner on Uncanny or X-Men.

[Madrox84]

I'd give it to Pak and McNiven.

That would be an alright choice i suppose, i love McNiven's art but i'm not a huge fan of Pak...

Millar and Hitch would be cool.

[Brian M.]

I think this is the first time I've ever seen anyone use smileys in a post about Chuck Austen.


Chuck Austen is not writing X-Men anymore :D

[Zombienorthstar]

I can give Austen genuine praise.


The issue in which Northstar is recruited is one of the best stand alone issues ive ever read.

:D

[rilokyle]

I can give Austen genuine praise.


The issue in which Northstar is recruited is one of the best stand alone issues ive ever read.

:D
Despite all the bad plotlines and characterizations, there were a few things I liked that Austen did. He brought Northstar to the X-Men and I liked what he did with him. He also brought back Havok and Polaris, and while I didn't like how they were written, he made them A-listers again. Austen also made decent use of Jubilee and Husk too. So yeah, there are a few things I liked about Chuck's run. :D

[kate-pryde]

Does anyone know why Whedon is leaving...just curious?

It sounds like a time issue, and in an interview at Comic Con, Joss said he didn't want to get roped into doing more issues like he did after issue 12. It sounded like he wants to move on, but he still I hope someone managed to convince him to stay.

Joss has written two movie scripts (Wonder Woman and Goners) and is waiting for greenlights to start production. If those fall through (Goners isn't that high profile and it's been nearly a year since there's been any news and how many re-writes is the WW script going to take?), he really doesn't have that much on his plate, other than the Buffy comics which he isn't really that involved with. The Buffyverse TV movies have completely fallen through and the Browncoats can try all they want for a Serenity sequel, it ain't gonna happen. But if he starts directing a movie, there's no way he'd have time to write Astonishing, or at least be able to keep any sort of schedule.

Jeph Loeb and Joss do go back a ways, so I can see Joss picking him as his successor. Jeph was in-charge of the Buffy Animated Series that never got off the ground.

But I'd rather see Astonishing stay as a premiere book (preferably with Joss staying on), and not turn into a run of the mill X-title. But I don't want to see some celeb writer take over who's not a hardcore X-fan, just because it's the "in" thing to write comics now.

Joss has brought so many fans back to the X-books, I'd hope he stays on Astonishing in some capacity for another couple of arcs.

[CE_Rap]

The only thing Turner should be allowed to do on Astonishing is teh covers. I would really hate it if he was the regular Penciler. Every single woman would look like Fathom, have the same body, the same poses, and that goes for the guys too.

His strongest work is his covers, and if he could apply that to the inside of his books, i'd like him.

There has got to be some new, really strong talent out there in the art department. I'm of the opinion that the only way to make superstars is to actually give them the chance. I want Marvel to grow a pair and put a really good artist on the book, then just let him become a star.


I'm with the "Lobdell/Nicieza" crew for writers. I'm a 90's guy. Loeb would be cool for a bit but i think i like him better in Ultimates.

[Affinity]

Ed Benes, I've recently fallen in love with. But I still want Coipel. Or Yu.

Yes, Leinel Yu is great.

And Damon Lindelof, of course.

[Bobster777]

I can give Austen genuine praise.


The issue in which Northstar is recruited is one of the best stand alone issues ive ever read.

:D
I have to agree about this issue. It was truly a touching issue. This was the best issue during his run.

[lament]

I can give Austen genuine praise.


The issue in which Northstar is recruited is one of the best stand alone issues ive ever read.

:D

Yeah, I agree. It was a beautiful issue. I loathed a lot of Austen's run, but I'll give him props for bringing Northstar into the picture.

[Zombienorthstar]

Yeah, I agree. It was a beautiful issue. I loathed a lot of Austen's run, but I'll give him props for bringing Northstar into the picture.


See Northstar is both one of my gratest loves and biggest regrets of Austens run...he gave us this wonderful insightful issue...full of all of Northstars great character points- the nature of prejudice, the difficult family relationships, his superiority complex:

XAVIER: You're not a god, Jean Paul
NORTHSTAR: YES I AM!!!

But then after this issue...near enough NOTHING.

He back the resident celibate gay man....

[CE_Rap]

Ed Benes, I've recently fallen in love with....Yes, Leinel Yu is great.




I would go with either, but for Leinel, only if he gets an inker.

[lament]

See Northstar is both one of my gratest loves and biggest regrets of Austens run...he gave us this wonderful insightful issue...full of all of Northstars great character points- the nature of prejudice, the difficult family relationships, his superiority complex:

XAVIER: You're not a god, Jean Paul
NORTHSTAR: YES I AM!!!

But then after this issue...near enough NOTHING.

He back the resident celibate gay man....

Oh, I know what you mean. Northstar is my favorite character, and I want him to wind up with a writer who:

1) Doesn't use him as the token gay guy: Really, he's a great character with more to offer than just his sexual orientation. I want to see JP with a writer who understands who he is as a person and is willing to use him for more than just the PC aspect.

2) Lets him have a love life: Even though I don't want JP's sexuality to be the totality of his character, I do think it's about time he got a boyfriend. He's been out of the closet since 1992, and other than getting hit on by a Tom Selleck look-a-like at Rick Jones' wedding, he's been celibate. :(

[Zombienorthstar]

Oh, I know what you mean. Northstar is my favorite character, and I want him to wind up with a writer who:

1) Doesn't use him as the token gay guy: Really, he's a great character with more to offer than just his sexual orientation. I want to see JP with a writer who understands who he is as a person and is willing to use him for more than just the PC aspect.

2) Lets him have a love life: Even though I want JP's sexuality to be the totality of his character, I do think it's about time he got a boyfriend. He's been out of the closet since 1992, and other than getting hit on by a Tom Selleck look-a-like at Rick Jones' wedding, he's been celibate.


Exactly...im gay but even then im MUCH more interested in Jean Pauls 'god complex'....cant they just have him have a guy and not make an issue of it?

[lament]

Exactly...im gay but even then im MUCH more interested in Jean Pauls 'god complex'....cant they just have him have a guy and not make an issue of it?

For real. I think a lot of writers get stuck on the fact that JP is gay and can't move past it. If he was a heterosexual character, giving him a lover would be a non-issue. I would think that JP would be incredibly fun to write at the moment, since he's just had his brain twisted like a pretzel by the Hand. Talk about your issues.

What was this thread about again? :p Oh, who should take over Astonishing. You know, I'm honestly not sure. I want it to be someone who isn't currently on an X-title, though. I don't care if it's a big name. There are loads of great writers and artists out there who could do amazing things with this title.

EDIT: I would be okay with Millar or BKV.

[Zombienorthstar]

For real. I think a lot of writers get stuck on the fact that JP is gay and can't move past it. If he was a heterosexual character, giving him a lover would be a non-issue. I would think that JP would be incredibly fun to write at the moment, since he's just had his brain twisted like a pretzel by the Hand. Talk about your issues.

What was this thread about again? :p Oh, who should take over Astonishing. You know, I'm honestly not sure. I want it to be someone who isn't currently on an X-title, though. I don't care if it's a big name. There are loads of great writers and artists out there who could do amazing things with this title.


Come to think of it...Northstar would be a good Astonishign addition...he and Emma would be cool.

[lament]

Come to think of it...Northstar would be a good Astonishign addition...he and Emma would be cool.

I would be more than okay with JP showing up in Astonishing. I really want him in an X-title, because I think he fits well in this section of the MU.

You know, I always thought Emma and JP would work well together. I think they'd understand each other.

I'm also hoping Warren shows up in Astonishing.

[Zombienorthstar]

I would be more than okay with JP showing up in Astonishing. I really want him in an X-title, because I think he fits well in this section of the MU.

You know, I always thought Emma and JP would work well together. I think they'd understand each other.

I'm also hoping Warren shows up in Astonishing.

For ages i championed the idea of Psylocke and Northstar as being 'Will and Grace with superpowers'

[lament]

For ages i championed the idea of Psylocke and Northstar as being 'Will and Grace with superpowers'

I could be okay with that. I went through an anti-Psylocke phase for a while, but I'm starting to get over it.

I just took a look at Michael Turner's art, and I really hope he doesn't come on board. I'm not liking it.

[Mister Mets]

The current rumor is Jeph Loeb and Michael Turner.

No, I'm not joking.

Loeb's hit or miss with me, but he's certainly a big enough writer.

And I can't say that Turner's a bad choice, although he'll be a step down from Cassady.

anyone know if Marvel intends for the cast to stay the same regardless of who writes the book?

Since Morrison got to pick his team, and Whedon got to pick his team, I'm assuming Loeb/ Turner will be able to put whoever they want on the book.


Blah...

Joss really isn't that busy now, unless Wonder Woman or Goners get finally greenlit. You'd think he'd be able to keep going on Astonishing. It's not like when he was running three tv series at the same time his wife had a baby and he never slept.

Joss could do what he's doing with the Buffy Season 8 comics for Dark Horse- he's writing the outline for first 20 issues and the first couple issues and then having the former Mutant Enemy staff writers handle the actual writing for the rest of the issues. That kind of situation wouldn't be bad for Astonishing, and I wouldn't mind seeing someone like Tim Minear or Jane Espenson or "Ultimate" Drew Goddard co-writing Astonishing.

There were all those rumors that Joss had a ghost-writer for the Dangerous arc, but if Joss was colaborating with someone the fans trusted, I don't think that would be such a problem.

Someone should do a petition to get Joss to stay on Astonishing and post about it on Whedonesque...

Wonder Woman to the best of my knowledge has been greenlit, and he's currently understandably busy writing the screenplay for a movie which can make/ break his career. Plus, he may be planning comic books with other characters (Spider-Man god willing.)
I'm not sure how popular the idea of rotating writers would be, especially if people buy the book because they want to see Whedon on the X-Men. If the results are good, I wouldn't mind, but I'd rather it not be like Buffy/ Angel, where his episodes were held to a different standard than the others.

That's 4 titles for Loeb... that's not good. I love him, but his books are always late.

Loeb does have plenty of lead time on this, and most of his current projects.

Knowing that Pak has now been given two mini-series primarily featuring the Astonishing cast I would have thought that this was like his try out for Astonishing...:confused:

I think the writer of Astonishing X-Men should be bigger than the writers on the other books, and I don't think Pak qualifies, although there are few writers who do (Loeb/ Millar/ Bendis/ Ellis come to mind).

[lament]

Loeb's hit or miss with me, but he's certainly a big enough writer.

And I can't say that Turner's a bad choice, although he'll be a step down from Cassady.



I like Loeb, but he wouldn't be my first choice for Astonishing. Millar is probably the best choice, imho.

As for Turner, I don't connect with his art, but it wouldn't stop me from buying the book or anything.

I would hope (and expect) that at least Scott and Emma stay on the team. I'm open as far as the rest of the cast.

[Mister Mets]

I would love to see Millar and Hitch on Astonishing provided they give Hitch plenty of lead time.

That would be awesome.

The next project Millar has going with him is with Bryan Hitch again that has yet to be annouce.

Turner is only doing a mini for Marvel as part of his deal with them so don't expect to see him on Astonishing. Like wise with Silvestri who is also said to be doing only a mini series too.

Loeb also has four projects he will be doing. Ultimate Avengers Vols 3 & 4, Wolverine, and another I can't remember right now. So I don't see him doing this.

It will be interesting though to see who takes over this title after Whedon leaves. I hope Marvel can at least keep Cassaday on the book though.

Loeb's announced Marvel Work........
Ultimates 3
Ultimates 4 (Assuming Ultimates 3 is 12-13 issues like the first 2 volumes, even if its monthly and there are no gaps between collections, the first issue won't be published for another year and a half)
Onslaught Reborn (5 issue project)
Spider-Man Project with J Scott Campbell
Wolverine (12 issues)
Ultimate Power (3 issues)

I still think he can fit in twelve issues of Astonishing X-men, especially with the lead time he has on some of the projects.

I don't want to sound overly negative, but do we really need 3 core X-books? To many people, Astonishing has been the only decent X-book worth reading since 2004. Couldn't have Joss Whedon simply written X-Men or Uncanny? I think once Whedon leaves, we should let Astonishing go with him, and leave it as something special he worked on, and maybe one day in the future he can return to it. I think Marvel should focus on making Uncanny a 'superstar'(as someone said earlier) book, it used to be one, why not make it one agian. The way I see it Marvel has enough X-books to appeal to everyone if they market them right. I think Marvel should go back to the formula that worked with the X-Men:

Uncanny X-Men - Appeal to classic X-Men fans, and Astonishing fans. The book would deal with the core school, and team, aswell as mutant rights and PR. Similar to what is being done in Astonishing, but with a slightly larger, and changing roster.

X-Men - The Covert Action team. Would appeal to 3rd generation X-Men fan's(80's-90's fans) and feature characters made popular in that era. This book would be suited for Scott Lobdell or Fabian Nicieza fans.

Excalibur - The Claremont X-Men. I would give Claremont a few characters and have an international team of X-Men travel the world. I would put Alan Davis on art of course.

Generation NeX - This would be a combination of Generation X and New X-Men. I would have Cannonball leading the next generation of X-Men.

I think putting Loeb and Turner on an X-book is great idea, just not Astonishing. I don't think it's going to appeal to the same fanbase that like Whedon, and no matter how good it is, people will compare the two. This is why I think either a new book should be created for Loeb(Marvel loves new #1's anyways) or simply put Loeb and Turner on Uncanny or X-Men.

The weird thing is that Uncanny X-Men and X-men do have some excellent creative teams at the moment, so I don't think I'd really change them much.
I like the idea of "Astonishing X-Men" being the book with a-list creators, and hope Marvel's smart enough to announce an "Astonishing Spider-Man" book one day.

[Bobster777]

I like Loeb, but he wouldn't be my first choice for Astonishing. Millar is probably the best choice, imho.

As for Turner, I don't connect with his art, but it wouldn't stop me from buying the book or anything.

I would hope (and expect) that at least Scott and Emma stay on the team. I'm open as far as the rest of the cast.
Ohh, Millar on Astonishing. I think that would be a great fit.

[X-Factor]

Whoever grabs Astonishing I hope still injects humor into this title.

[Mister Mets]

With the Ultimate Wolverine announcement, it seems Loeb/ Turner are out.

Thanks to Whedon/ Cassady, and that rumor, whoever's next has big shoes to fill.

One artist I wouldn't mind seeing on the book= David Mack, who had been rumored for a Wolverine project, and Ultimate X-Men at different times. Pair him with a writer like Ellis/ Loeb/ Millar, and you've got a tremendous hit on your hands.

And it just occured to me that Millar/ Romita Jr would make a great team on this book.

[kate-pryde]

Wonder Woman to the best of my knowledge has been greenlit, and he's currently understandably busy writing the screenplay for a movie which can make/ break his career. Plus, he may be planning comic books with other characters (Spider-Man god willing.)

According to the last update at Comic Con, Joss has turned in his first draft of Wonder Woman, and now is working on re-writes. Technically, a greenlight is a go-ahead for financing, meaning it goes from development into pre-production. That has not happened.

Like so many other Warner Bros adaptations, this project is going to go through dozens of re-writes. Look at how long it took for Superman Returns or the latest Batman movie to be developed. They went through dozens of drafts and many writers and directors until Warner Bros execs found a script and director they could agree on. The same thing has happened to the Ender's Game movie which is on it's seventh version of the script right now.

I wouldn't hold my breath on the Wonder Woman movie or Goners. Joss doesn't like to be told what to do. He does his own thing and that's not what Warner Bros wants. Joss doesn't do cookie-cutter popcorn fluff, which is what Warner Bros wants. So, either WB trusts Joss with 100+ million dollars and let him do what he wants, or they give Wonder Woman to some other writer and director who will churn out cookie-cutter fluff. With the Warner Bros having a bad summer, it's not going to make their decision any easier.


I think the writer of Astonishing X-Men should be bigger than the writers on the other books, and I don't think Pak qualifies, although there are few writers who do (Loeb/ Millar/ Bendis/ Ellis come to mind).

High profile is fine, but they have to know how to handle the characters. I don't want some big name to come in and do his vision of the X-Men. The top priority is someone who loves these characters.

Loeb at least has experience writing X-Men. He wrote some good issues of Cable and X-Force, and he hopefully wouldn't ignore everything that happened in the '90s.

Joss has said that he hoped Warren Ellis would succeed him:

ON WHO SHOULD TAKE OVER ‘ASTONISHING X-MEN’:
I have at least four answers, and if I only give one, I’m going to insult the others. But I’ll just say the first name that comes to my mind is [Planetary writer] Warren Ellis. I’m still pretty much in awe of him because he has a sparseness and cinematic quality that I’ve tried to capture a little bit. And [Love & Rockets co-creator] Jaime Hernandez. I actually think that his clean and crisp style would be really fun. Obviously, he does his own thing and would never want to do it, but I think that he would be interesting. Those two.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/movies/wonderwoman/000204454.cfm

[larroca fan]

I think what your saying aboput Turner is true, but dont be harsh about anorexics, my best mate is going threw it at the moment and i don't think it's right to be harsh about someone with that condition.