Magneto...gone.

[aim33]

So Grant Morrison pretty much killed Magneto at the end of the New X-Men series. It kinda got me mad...I mean, he's like the number one villian. After Wolverine pretty much sliced his head off, I doubt he'll be back. I kinda wish he would come back. It'd be unrealistic if he did come back (the whole X-Men series is unrealistic anyway, so it wouldn't really matter)...but is there a possibilty of Magnteo coming back? :evilangry

[Brian M.]

So Grant Morrison pretty much killed Magneto at the end of the New X-Men series. It kinda got me mad...I mean, he's like the number one villian. After Wolverine pretty much sliced his head off, I doubt he'll be back. I kinda wish he would come back. It'd be unrealistic if he did come back (the whole X-Men series is unrealistic anyway, so it wouldn't really matter)...but is there a possibilty of Magnteo coming back? :evilangry

...How long have you been away from comics? Becuase he came back 2 months after he was killed. He's been depowered...maybe. You need to read New Avengers arc The Collective. It will explain a lot about Magneto's current state.

[Beast]

What he said. The person who claimed to be Magneto in New X-Men was really just an imposter looking to use Magneto's visage for his own means. You can hit up Wikipedia for the full details. But the real Magnus never died. He was off recovering in secret on Genosha during the time that Xorn/Xorneto was running around.

[Matthew K.]

So Grant Morrison pretty much killed Magneto at the end of the New X-Men series. It kinda got me mad...I mean, he's like the number one villian. After Wolverine pretty much sliced his head off, I doubt he'll be back. I kinda wish he would come back. It'd be unrealistic if he did come back (the whole X-Men series is unrealistic anyway, so it wouldn't really matter)...but is there a possibilty of Magnteo coming back? :evilangry
Wish Granted! :D

Magneto is/has been back for a bit now. So you don't have to be mad anymore, your "number one" villain is back in business.

see this site for details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto_(comics)

ps. part of the fun of sci-fi & XM is suspending your belief & using your imagination to enjoy the tales (unrealistic or not)

[aim33]

OOOOHHH!!!! Okay, thanks so much, guys. I guess I have been a little behind lately. I really couldn't believe Magneto died, so i guess it's true; he hasn't died. Long live Magneto!! lol

[Matthew K.]

OOOOHHH!!!! Okay, thanks so much, guys. I guess I have been a little behind lately. I really couldn't believe Magneto died, so i guess it's true; he hasn't died. Long live Magneto!! lol
Yeah, let's just say certain characters are harder to "kill" than others ;)

[Brian M.]

Yeah, let's just say certain characters are harder to "kill" than others ;)

Give him the Phoenix Force. One of the most powerful forces in the Universe and she dies at the snap of a finger.

[aim33]

ok , instead of making a new topic, im just going to post here....so ive been reading the x men comics for a bit...so far ive read Uncanny X men issues #1-#24; Giant Size X men #1, Uncanny X-Men #90-100; Ultimate X men issues #1-#12 (didnt really like it), New X-Men issues #120-157ish, AStonishing X men Issues #1-15 lol... is there anything else i should be reading or am i on the right track??

[Brian M.]

ok , instead of making a new topic, im just going to post here....so ive been reading the x men comics for a bit...so far ive read Uncanny X men issues #1-#24; Giant Size X men #1, Uncanny X-Men #90-100; Ultimate X men issues #1-#12 (didnt really like it), New X-Men issues #120-157ish, AStonishing X men Issues #1-15 lol... is there anything else i should be reading or am i on the right track??

Do you smoke weed?

[Matthew K.]

ok , instead of making a new topic, im just going to post here....so ive been reading the x men comics for a bit...so far ive read Uncanny X men issues #1-#24; Giant Size X men #1, Uncanny X-Men #90-100; Ultimate X men issues #1-#12 (didnt really like it), New X-Men issues #120-157ish, AStonishing X men Issues #1-15 lol... is there anything else i should be reading or am i on the right track??
Sounds like your headed in the right direction. Did you just discover the X-Men books after the movie & decide to jump in?

There is a CD out there that puts a lot of the older Uncanny XM issues together in one place. Here's a link for it on ebay if you want to check it out: http://collectibles.search.ebay.com/x-men-40-years_Comics_W0QQbsZSearchQQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZco mpareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfposZQ5AIP Q2fPostalQQfromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ 1QQsacatZ63QQsadisZ200QQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ2QQsatit leZxQ2dmenQ2040Q20yearsQQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs

[aim33]

Do you smoke weed?


No.

[aim33]

Sounds like your headed in the right direction. Did you just discover the X-Men books after the movie & decide to jump in?

Actually, I did. LoL

[rilokyle]

ok , instead of making a new topic, im just going to post here....so ive been reading the x men comics for a bit...so far ive read Uncanny X men issues #1-#24; Giant Size X men #1, Uncanny X-Men #90-100; Ultimate X men issues #1-#12 (didnt really like it), New X-Men issues #120-157ish, AStonishing X men Issues #1-15 lol... is there anything else i should be reading or am i on the right track??
Hi! Welcome to the x-boards Aimee! :) Let's see if we can't get you all caught up. I would stop with X-Men 157, and just pick up with X-Men 188 and 189. Those issues only came out a month ago, and is the brand new start of a new creative team and x-roster. It's really good, and is a self-contained story, so it is easy to follow. It features Rogue, Iceman, Cannonball, Mystique, Cable, and Sabretooth.

As for Uncanny X-Men, I'd pick up issue 475 and 476, which also came out last month. That's the start of another new creative team, and features Havok, Polaris, Warpath, Rachel Grey, Nightcrawler, and Professor X.

And it seems your all caught up with Astonishing X-Men, so that's good.

Feel free to ask any questions- there are a lot of threads that have answers. :) WELCOME!

[Matthew K.]

Actually, I did. LoL
That's good. XM is a fun book!

Here's some links you might find useful on the CBR boards:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=49690

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=419

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=9696


ps. if you want to quote anyone, just hit the "quote" button at the bottom right of the poster's post

[aim33]

awesome...thanks, man!

[Matthew K.]

awesome...thanks, man!
anytime friend :)

[Brian M.]

No.


Sorry I was just curious. Me either, I just really wanted to know what was funny.

[aim33]

what?? btw, i say lol after every sentence. just become a "lol" habit. lol... get used to it

[aim33]

well these x-comics are like really confusing now.....theres so many different versions/stories and stuff. eek

[rilokyle]

well these x-comics are like really confusing now.....theres so many different versions/stories and stuff. eek
Yeah, the x-books are full of trickery.

I say, stick with X-Men, Astonishing, and Uncanny for now. Its all in the same universe, and continuity. Two of the teams live at the mansion, while one recently ventured off into space. Recent issues are recapping the events in the last year, so its not impossible to understand what's going on.

I'd say the basic thing to know is that, 90% of the world's mutants lost their powers, courtsey of the Scarlett Witch going crazy. But even that is kinda old news.

Professor X lost his powers, but he can walk.

Thats the basics for now. I don't want to give you too much information all at once. :)

[SincereAgape]

It kinda sucks because Magneto has been nothing but a whipping boy since his return.

[aim33]

k cool...oh in astonishing x men, where is the professor and all the others while this is happening? where did storm, rogue, iceman, gambit--and all those ppl go?

[Mariah]

k cool...oh in astonishing x men, where is the professor and all the others while this is happening? where did storm, rogue, iceman, gambit--and all those ppl go?
Do you even read the x-books? They are in other books at the moment that all of that went down.

They're all back minus Storm whose over in Black Panther as his new wife, and Gambit's in limbo.

[fishtaco]

Aim, you should read some of Magneto's earlier appearances, such as in....

Classic X-Men 12, 19.
Fantastic Four V.S. The X-Men #'s 1-4.
New Mutants (1st Series) 29, 35, 38-40, 53-54, 59-61, 75
Uncanny X-Men #'s 141, 150, 161, 196, 199-200, 203, 210, 219, 253, 274-275, Annual 10.
X-Men (2nd Series) 1-3.

The movie's writers (especially in X3) really didn't understand Magneto as a character. He was written like a hypocrite, a moron, and a lunatic. Morrison also didn't seem to understand Magneto very well, either.

Magneto is a man who has experienced the worst humanity has to offer, not to mention several other losses of those that were dear to him, and it gave him reason to become what many consider a villain. While Dr. Doom and initially Magneto wanted to take over the world, Doom wanted power, where Magneto believed that it is the only way to spare his people the horrors he experienced. Believe it or not, Magneto wants mutants and humans to get along moreso than any X-Man, including the dreamer himself, Professor X. The problem, and the difference between him and Professor X, is that because of Magneto's first-hand experience, he chooses a more realistic approach to the mutant-human problem. Professor X and his team, on the other hand, believe in the same thing, although they have the optimism and faith in both humanity and mutantkind that their goals can be met.

As time progressed, anti-mutant hysteria grew, and at this same time, Xavier asked Magneto to take his place as the leader of the X-Men (for complicated reasons). The X-Men faked their deaths and went underground, striking at their enemies from the shadows and eventually scattering, fighting all their enemies across the world (it should be noted that Magneto had very little influence in this decision; it was more of Storm's decision).

As the X-Men became more and more frustrated, as more and more of them and their allies died, bled, and the worse things got, they would have realized that while mutants and humans living in peace is the best thing that can happen, it simply won't happen. It's the equivelant of not having a job and instead trying to win the lottery. Sure, it would be great to just win the lottery all the time and not have to have a job because of it, but it won't happen. It's unrealistic. Magneto knows what is unrealistic because he was in the holocaust. The only X-Man that has been through the same as him (perhaps worse) is Phoenix. Magneto isn't a goody-good guy, but he's not evil either. He's in between. That terrorist attack that he had Pyro make on that building that had the cure in it? Totally out of character. Turning the earth on it's head, Kick, and demanding blind obediance from an army of children? Totally out of character. The movies, and Grant Morrison, who really is overall a great writer, got it all wrong.

I highly reccomend you look at the issues I mentioned above.

[Haunt]

The movie's writers (especially in X3) really didn't understand Magneto as a character. He was written like a hypocrite, a moron, and a lunatic. Morrison also didn't seem to understand Magneto very well, either.


i thought the movie Magneto (for the first 2 films) was completely in-character. he was portraying Magneto pre-Mutant Alpha. he was Professor Xavier except mentally-scarred by the Holocaust. his plan was to make the worlds leaders mutants, so that they'd bring humans and mutants together. sounds like Magneto to me.

[fishtaco]

i thought the movie Magneto (for the first 2 films) was completely in-character. he was portraying Magneto pre-Mutant Alpha. he was Professor Xavier except mentally-scarred by the Holocaust. his plan was to make the worlds leaders mutants, so that they'd bring humans and mutants together. sounds like Magneto to me.Oops. Did I say "especially in X3?" No, you're right. I was fine with Magneto in the first two movies, except for when he re-programmed Mastermind at the end (his methods are not that extreme, even pre Mutant Alpha, in my opinion). He's generally a good man, but the scars on his soul caused him to break away from the hope and optimism that sustained the X-Men through their most dangerous times (by rights, the status quo should be a total nightmare for the X-Men here in 2006 continuity, but editorial decided to change this course of direction to go back to 60's mode years ago, and it's kind of hard to go back to, since it took 17+ years to build up). He doesn't hate all humans; he hates the humans who are determined to murder him and the rest of mutantkind, including the X-Men. He has a personal score to settle with the Soviet government. They took Anya from him, and then they took Isabelle from him. They were seconds away from firing a nuclear bomb at him, and he retaliated in a combination of self-defense and revenge, leaving a hatred between him and the Soviets that never healed. The collapse of the Soviet Union in real life kind of made this plot seem kinda irrelevant, but you can't blame the editors or bad writers for this one, can ya? ;)

[jmc247]

i thought the movie Magneto (for the first 2 films) was completely in-character. he was portraying Magneto pre-Mutant Alpha. he was Professor Xavier except mentally-scarred by the Holocaust. his plan was to make the worlds leaders mutants, so that they'd bring humans and mutants together. sounds like Magneto to me.

Parts of the first two films Magneto was in character.

At the end of the second film Magneto went totally out of character when he decided to try to eradicate every last human on Earth and when he leaves Charles and the X-Men to die.

[Darkstorm5000]

Parts of the first two films Magneto was in character.

At the end of the second film Magneto went totally out of character when he decided to try to eradicate every last human on Earth and when he leaves Charles and the X-Men to die.

That was something that kind of irked me too...

[jmc247]

That was something that kind of irked me too...

I really feel the second and third x-men movies got rid of the metaphor of mutants equal blacks and instead went to muslims as a metaphor for mutants given the post 911 world.

And, certain X-men writers did the same thing at about the same time like the one that had Magneto a drug using psychopathic terrorist attacking NY City.

The problem is that Magneto is a very set character and you can't just turn him into Bin Laden or Zarqawi without pissing off the audience.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

aim33, welcome aboard the Magneto Express. Read X-Men #1-3(second series) and learn that every other villian in X-history is inferior to the greatest.

[rondre sleazde]

You should enjoy all the x-books past, present and future

[daniel2099]

that was so open ended we know hell be back but as what?

the devastated father ?
the man who failed his contrey
the mutant crusader?

bets on who gets him next new avngers or x men

[Beast]

that was so open ended we know hell be back but as what?

the devastated father ?
the man who failed his contrey
the mutant crusader?

bets on who gets him next new avngers or x men
All three, because he's a multi-dimensional character. Regardless of what Morrison tried to say. ;)