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Oliverhannah
07-30-2006, 06:03 AM
She bought Darkstar, Illyana, Hawkeye and co..back!

Illyana is lucky to escape before wanda changed world again!
I hope Illyana make appear AXM as villian!

Would love see Darkstar make appear X-Men but i don't know if she's depowered or not.....

The Fury
07-30-2006, 06:38 AM
Wanda brought them back alive but she changed it back again.

So Characters such as the 2 dead Cuckoos, Quinten Quire, Illyana, Doug Ramsey, Pyro or any other character that was bought back to life due to Wanda's magic will remain dead when the world is reset. (Okay so Apocalypse is alive, but I'm unsure if that was due to Wanda ot just it's friggin' Apocalypse).

Illyana escaped to Limbo right? Did she take others with her? Well considering Wanda's magic is powerful enough to remove Sabretooth (and others) from Mojoverse, i do not think Illyana came back.

jarrod
07-30-2006, 09:21 AM
Well considering Wanda's magic is powerful enough to remove Sabretooth (and others) from Mojoverse, i do not think Illyana came back.
Er, when did that happen? As I understand it, Wanda's woogie was limited to Earth only?

The Fury
07-30-2006, 09:29 AM
Er, when did that happen? As I understand it, Wanda's woogie was limited to Earth only?
Although someone will probably come along and tell me I'm talking out my arse.

According to the comics, Xorn II absorbed Juggs, Nocturne and the current Brotherhood in to his head. This turned out to be a portal to Mojoverse. Now, Nocturne and Juggs escaped, Mojo followed, but no mention of the other. Presumed they stayed there. then HoM happened and all of a sudden the Brotherhood were back on Earth. Unless it is said they went home between when Juggs and Nocturne returned, I'll presume it pulled them from it.

Just like Wanda's thing pulled the souls of the dead from where ever they were.

Of course I'm one who argues about it not being limited to earth due to Captain Marvel's involvement and as a representative to the Kree Empire, then the Kree much have changed as well, it is only a small change for them but a change none the less.

rilokyle
07-30-2006, 09:35 AM
Oh you know Illyana is totally going to come back soon. Christina and Nunzio purposley had her teleport to Limbo before the reality crashed, so now Illyana is just biding her time there, until a writer decides he wants to use her. Cross your fingers!

Beast
07-30-2006, 10:00 AM
Although someone will probably come along and tell me I'm talking out my arse.

According to the comics, Xorn II absorbed Juggs, Nocturne and the current Brotherhood in to his head. This turned out to be a portal to Mojoverse. Now, Nocturne and Juggs escaped, Mojo followed, but no mention of the other. Presumed they stayed there. then HoM happened and all of a sudden the Brotherhood were back on Earth. Unless it is said they went home between when Juggs and Nocturne returned, I'll presume it pulled them from it.

Just like Wanda's thing pulled the souls of the dead from where ever they were.

Of course I'm one who argues about it not being limited to earth due to Captain Marvel's involvement and as a representative to the Kree Empire, then the Kree much have changed as well, it is only a small change for them but a change none the less.
Nope, they traded Juggernaut and Nocturne to Mojo for passage back to Earth 616. So the Brotherhood was back on Earth when HoM happened. And Wanda didn't actually pull souls of the dead. She just basically rewrote history entirely so that those characters who died, never had the history that caused them to die. Which retroactively had them back alive in the HoM version of reality. As for whether it was limited to Earth, that's a tougher call. When Wanda woogied reality, history changed in such a big manner that those characters like Captain Marvel and the Kree may have just been constructs that fit that changed reality. As for Illyana, yes she escaped to Limbo as the "No More Mutants" woogie went off, protecting her from being returned to dead. Nunzio and Christina wrote that out for her character, so she could be returned to life at some point. :)

The Lucky One
07-30-2006, 02:49 PM
Well, 616 Proteus was revived in the HoM reality and managed to remain after Wanda's woogie... however, that's because he was outside of the 616 reality at the time, fighting the Exiles. The only other person that might be true of is the HoM Magik, since she teleported to Limbo; all of the others should have gone back to being dead. Although it was hinted at the end that Hawkeye might have somehow survived the woogie.

-D

Beast
07-30-2006, 02:58 PM
Well, 616 Proteus was revived in the HoM reality and managed to remain after Wanda's woogie... however, that's because he was outside of the 616 reality at the time, fighting the Exiles. The only other person that might be true of is the HoM Magik, since she teleported to Limbo; all of the others should have gone back to being dead. Although it was hinted at the end that Hawkeye might have somehow survived the woogie.

-D
She probably purposefully let him live, cause he was so annoyed she killed him in the first place. ;)

Faded
07-30-2006, 03:33 PM
When did Darkstar return to the land of living?

Haunt
07-30-2006, 06:02 PM
Well, 616 Proteus was revived in the HoM reality and managed to remain after Wanda's woogie... however, that's because he was outside of the 616 reality at the time, fighting the Exiles. The only other person that might be true of is the HoM Magik, since she teleported to Limbo; all of the others should have gone back to being dead. Although it was hinted at the end that Hawkeye might have somehow survived the woogie.

-D

really? i haven't seen Clint Barton alive, anywhere. he just disappeared with the rest of Wanda's imaginary playmates. all that was left was his costume, which was probably his real costume.

The Lucky One
07-30-2006, 09:05 PM
really? i haven't seen Clint Barton alive, anywhere. he just disappeared with the rest of Wanda's imaginary playmates. all that was left was his costume, which was probably his real costume.

He hasn't been seen alive anywhere. However, in one of the zillion follow-up issues to HoM, a newspaper headline about his death was seen stuck to the wall of Avengers Mansion with arrows, and Cap gave a secretive little smile when he saw it. Hawkeye's back, make no mistake; I'd imagine Marvel is just waiting for a writer to come along with a good idea for what to do with him. Hell, for all we know he'll return in the middle of Civil War. (In fact, until recent revelations, many people were speculating that "Daredevil" was really Hawkeye.)

-D

The Fury
07-31-2006, 03:27 AM
As for Illyana, yes she escaped to Limbo as the "No More Mutants" woogie went off, protecting her from being returned to dead. Nunzio and Christina wrote that out for her character, so she could be returned to life at some point. :)
Okay, didn't know the exchange thing the evil guys did with Mojo.

Wanda's magic would have changed the Kree as well, making them just contructs is a bit weird. (but then to Wanda everythign is a construct). Magic is not bound by distance. or boudaries.

Illyana is dead.

The Sword Is Drawn
07-31-2006, 03:54 AM
Illyana is dead.

I have a feeling we'll be seeing the Illyana from House of M, again someday. They finished that New X-Men issue with Illyana in Limbo, for a reason. Just in case they ever wanted to bring her back...

Beast
07-31-2006, 05:50 AM
I have a feeling we'll be seeing the Illyana from House of M, again someday. They finished that New X-Men issue with Illyana in Limbo, for a reason. Just in case they ever wanted to bring her back...
Exactly. Would be rather weird to have HoM Illyana running around though. But that would actually be a pretty good storyline, trying to explain to her the whole altered reality thing. :)

Atom_basher
07-31-2006, 06:50 AM
Exactly. Would be rather weird to have HoM Illyana running around though. But that would actually be a pretty good storyline, trying to explain to her the whole altered reality thing. :)


Not to mention HOM illiyana is a major bitch

The Sword Is Drawn
07-31-2006, 07:09 AM
Not to mention HOM illiyana is a major bitch

What always seemed odd to me is that HoM Illyana became a member of SHIELD in training. Wheras HoM Colossus stayed as a farmer in Russia.

Oliverhannah
07-31-2006, 08:19 AM
Magik was seen once again in the House of M reality. Not a true Alternate Earth as such, House of M was a temporary recreation of Earth-616 by Scarlet Witch, in which mutants were dominant on Earth. Magik was a member of a S.H.I.E.L.D. squadron of young mutants called the Hellions. Like most of the other Hellions, she eventually joined the side of the New Mutants; a team being groomed as future leaders; in fighting the establishment of the House of M in Japan, in a showdown against impossible odds. Almost ironically, given her track record, Magik appeared to be one of the few to survive. She teleported to Limbo right before Scarlet Witch altered reality yet again, leading to fan speculation that this version of Illyana is still alive.

Hopeful she make appearing in AXM as Perfection HAHAHAHA!!!:eek: :rolleyes:

Erik Lehnsherr
07-31-2006, 05:16 PM
It's interesting how Wanda was able to just pull someone as powerful as Genis into the House of M affairs like she did. That's just amazing power when you think of it.

Matthew K.
07-31-2006, 05:27 PM
Not to mention HOM illiyana is a major bitch
She reminded me of our Illyana during some of her New Mutants years.

Seems it's just another writing loophole for Magik's eventually return :)

All The Best Names Were Taken
07-31-2006, 06:24 PM
Just a thought, if Hawkeye is alive (which he probably is), they'll reveal this as a cliffhanger right? So how will that differ to the cliffhanger that revealed he was alive in the HOM universe?

Mjolnir
08-01-2006, 03:48 AM
Magik was seen once again in the House of M reality. Not a true Alternate Earth as such, House of M was a temporary recreation of Earth-616 by Scarlet Witch, in which mutants were dominant on Earth. Magik was a member of a S.H.I.E.L.D. squadron of young mutants called the Hellions. Like most of the other Hellions, she eventually joined the side of the New Mutants; a team being groomed as future leaders; in fighting the establishment of the House of M in Japan, in a showdown against impossible odds. Almost ironically, given her track record, Magik appeared to be one of the few to survive. She teleported to Limbo right before Scarlet Witch altered reality yet again, leading to fan speculation that this version of Illyana is still alive.

Hopeful she make appearing in AXM as Perfection HAHAHAHA!!!:eek: :rolleyes:

oh hell yeah

The Sword Is Drawn
08-01-2006, 04:40 AM
oh hell yeah

It'd be infinitely better than what we'll probably get.

Which let's be honest is going to Emma, isn't it?:rolleyes:

Callisto
08-01-2006, 05:19 PM
As for Illyana, yes she escaped to Limbo as the "No More Mutants" woogie went off, protecting her from being returned to dead. Nunzio and Christina wrote that out for her character, so she could be returned to life at some point. :)


really interesting, but the thing is, the illyana that would return wouldn't be our illyana but the psychotic one from house of m.

Callisto
08-01-2006, 05:24 PM
Magik was seen once again in the House of M reality. Not a true Alternate Earth as such, House of M was a temporary recreation of Earth-616 by Scarlet Witch, in which mutants were dominant on Earth. Magik was a member of a S.H.I.E.L.D. squadron of young mutants called the Hellions. Like most of the other Hellions, she eventually joined the side of the New Mutants; a team being groomed as future leaders; in fighting the establishment of the House of M in Japan, in a showdown against impossible odds. Almost ironically, given her track record, Magik appeared to be one of the few to survive. She teleported to Limbo right before Scarlet Witch altered reality yet again, leading to fan speculation that this version of Illyana is still alive.

Hopeful she make appearing in AXM as Perfection HAHAHAHA!!!:eek: :rolleyes:



but house of m illyana wasn't even shown being able to teleport to limbo.

Matthew K.
08-01-2006, 07:00 PM
really interesting, but the thing is, the illyana that would return wouldn't be our illyana but the psychotic one from house of m.
Illyana from HoM was pretty kickass--reminded me of 616 Illyana quite a bit, but she wasn't psycho was she? (I missed her final issue)

rilokyle
08-01-2006, 10:09 PM
really interesting, but the thing is, the illyana that would return wouldn't be our illyana but the psychotic one from house of m.
Yeah, I wouldn't want the HoM Illyana. I'd prefer it with we got the teenage Illyana we all knew from the 80s. Maybe the two can merge or something and revive her.

X-Factor
08-01-2006, 11:23 PM
Unfortunately, I believe Illyana is returning in the near future.

Volk1
08-01-2006, 11:40 PM
Unfortunately, I believe Illyana is returning in the near future.

Unfortunately? Why? You a fan of the "dead is dead" rule? Or you don't like Ilyana....just curious......

X-Factor
08-01-2006, 11:50 PM
Unfortunately? Why? You a fan of the "dead is dead" rule? Or you don't like Ilyana....just curious......

The latter. Just have never been a fan of the character 'tisall.

But if she worked with Stephen Strange in his new mini, I could see that working well.

Volk1
08-02-2006, 12:18 AM
The latter. Just have never been a fan of the character 'tisall.

But if she worked with Stephen Strange in his new mini, I could see that working well.
That's cool.

Yeah her and Dr. Strange working would be fantastic. And it actually makes sense.

Her powers, her connections, her persona; I think she's an interesting character. Hopefully she does appear in Strange's mini and wins some new fans. :cool:

Callisto
08-03-2006, 08:08 AM
do you think when illyana died, her soul went to limbo?