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Beast
07-28-2006, 09:13 AM
From Superhero Hype:
The Hollywood Reporter says that X-Men: The Last Stand will hit DVD on October 3 in two editions:

20th Century Fox Home Entertainment is expected to announce Friday that "X-Men: The Last Stand," which since its May 26 theatrical opening has grossed $233 million at the boxoffice, will arrive on DVD on Oct. 3 in two extras-laden special editions.

The highlight of the third "X-Men" movie's DVD debut: three alternative endings, each with optional commentary by director Brett Ratner. The single-disc DVD release also includes 10 deleted scenes; audio commentaries from Ratner, the writers and the producers; a preview of the upcoming Ben Stiller movie "A Night at the Museum;" and two hidden "Easter eggs," one of the Beast reciting Shakespeare and the other of the X-Jet landing in Washington.

Fox also is preparing a collector's edition that includes an exclusive 100-page commemorative book with an all-new story penned by Marvel Comics master Stan Lee. It is his first original Marvel Comics book in five years.

In addition, Fox is packaging all three "X-Men" movies into a trilogy pack.
Edit 1: According to DavisDVD the standard edition has an MSRP of $29.98 and the Collector's Edition has an MSRP of $39.98. The Trilogy Pack is expected to retail for $44.98.

Edit 2: We have cover art for all three of the releases! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/X-3.jpg

Beast
07-28-2006, 09:15 AM
Sounds kick ass. I hope one of the alternate endings is the one from the novel. Where Rogue doesn't take the cure and Beast remains at the school as a teacher instead of getting that high profile appointment as the U.N. Ambassador. The theatrical ending was sorta flat to me. The Easter Eggs sound cool also, especially the 'Beast reciting Shakespear' one. Put me down for the one with the book and bonus Stan Lee comic, he hasn't written X-Men in decades. So that certainly is a drawing point. I'm really surprised it's not going to be a 2-Disc set though. Here I was hoping we'd avoid a double dip, like we have with X2 so far.

fishtaco
07-28-2006, 09:21 AM
I wonder if any creators will be on the special features DVD, like in X2. Aside from Stan Lee, of course.

Beast
07-28-2006, 09:27 AM
I wonder if any creators will be on the special features DVD, like in X2. Aside from Stan Lee, of course.
Hopefully Stan Lee and Chris Claremont will be, given they both had cameos in the film. At least we won't be subjected to Chuck Austin again like on the X2 DVD. I don't need another story about Nightcrawler's twin wangs.

Affinity
07-28-2006, 09:30 AM
Wow! I know I'm getting this.

God, I hate my copy of X-Men 1, it was the 1.5 Edition (I had just gotten into X-Men through the movies), but the X2 DVD was cool.

I hope they put readable menus up this time, lol.

It sounds like fun, though, I'll definitely pick it up. And Beast, I've seen pictures of the alternate scene you're talking about, where Beast stays as a teacher? It was a picture of Beast, Iceman, and Storm smiling at the part where all the kids come back. I don't remember, someone remind me where the hell they went?

MDactor1980
07-28-2006, 09:37 AM
theres not going to be anything special about the 3-movie set right?

I got the first box set with 1.5 and x2... and i don't want to buy another box set... if i can just get all of the x3 dvd goodness in one spot

Beast
07-28-2006, 09:40 AM
theres not going to be anything special about the 3-movie set right?

I got the first box set with 1.5 and x2... and i don't want to buy another box set... if i can just get all of the x3 dvd goodness in one spot
Nope. It will probably just be a straight repackaging. Maybe a new keepcase for the X-Men 1.5 set instead of the crappy cardboard beastie. God, I really hate those.

Cayman
07-28-2006, 10:19 AM
Sounds good. This is one DVD I'll actually get.

Cay

Brian M.
07-28-2006, 10:47 AM
The more I think back onto this movie the more I realize how much I liked it. Except for Scott dieing and Logan taking his place in the story it was a good movie.

Beast
07-28-2006, 10:50 AM
The more I think back onto this movie the more I realize how much I liked it. Except for Scott dieing and Logan taking his place in the story it was a good movie.
I enjoyed it also. I wish it would have been at least 20 minutes longer though, and had a lot more character moments. It suffered from jumping from scene to scene way too much. But it was still damn good. :)

The Fury
07-28-2006, 10:52 AM
From Superhero Hype:
One of those Alternate Endings better be Cycops returning alive and saving Jean.

*Shakes fist angrily*

Ditto, more Cyclops from the deleted scenes as well.

Beast
07-28-2006, 10:54 AM
One of those Alternate Endings better be Cycops returning alive and saving Jean.

*Shakes fist angrily*

Ditto, more Cyclops from the deleted scenes as well.
I doubt they'll be that big of changes. But a few more Scott moments before he's killed by Jean would be nice. Even if they're in the deleted scenes. :)

curefreak
07-28-2006, 11:00 AM
does this mean i have to get both discs to get all the extra goodness?

Brian M.
07-28-2006, 11:22 AM
One of those Alternate Endings better be Cycops returning alive and saving Jean.

*Shakes fist angrily*

Ditto, more Cyclops from the deleted scenes as well.


If that happens two things will occur. #1 that will nolonger be an alternate ending in my mind, it will be the ending and #2 I'll have died b/c I orgasmed myself to death.

Beast
07-28-2006, 12:01 PM
does this mean i have to get both discs to get all the extra goodness?
No, just get the Collector's Edition. If it turns out to be a 2-Disc set as most of Fox's Collector's Editions are... it will have everything that's on the 1-Discer plus more.

curefreak
07-28-2006, 12:15 PM
No, just get the Collector's Edition. If it turns out to be a 2-Disc set as most of Fox's Collector's Editions are... it will have everything that's on the 1-Discer plus more.
good i was hoping that would be the case.:)

rilokyle
07-28-2006, 03:18 PM
Yay! I can't wait to see the Rogue/Bobby kiss! :D

Mariah
07-28-2006, 03:28 PM
If that happens two things will occur. #1 that will nolonger be an alternate ending in my mind, it will be the ending and #2 I'll have died b/c I orgasmed myself to death.
What a way to go! I sincerely hope the alternate endings are better than this one, because I hated Wolvie having to kill Jean. LAME-O imo.

Will.S
07-28-2006, 03:37 PM
Looks to be a pretty decent DVD, I'm looking forward to the deleted scenes and seeing the film a few more times to get the feel of the score.

I wish it came out sooner though.

Gene M.
07-28-2006, 04:30 PM
Dang. I still have yet to buy X2. The version with the Stan Lee comic sounds awesome.

Beast
07-28-2006, 05:25 PM
First post updated with the cover-art for the three releases. :)

xakko
07-28-2006, 08:39 PM
i may ask for the collector's edition for christmas... maybe.

at least with a DVD i could just fast forward past the wolverine stuff that would just irritate me.

Gene M.
07-28-2006, 08:41 PM
i may ask for the collector's edition for christmas... maybe.

at least with a DVD i could just fast forward past the wolverine stuff that would just irritate me.

Past the Wolverine stuff? So you're only gonna watch the credits?

xakko
07-28-2006, 08:44 PM
Past the Wolverine stuff? So you're only gonna watch the credits?
i thought there was 3 seconds of Colossus without Wolverine in it- with the TV?

Gene M.
07-28-2006, 08:46 PM
i thought there was 3 seconds of Colossus without Wolverine in it- with the TV?

Oh yeah... I must've missed the only part without Logan when I blinked that one time.

Beast
07-28-2006, 08:48 PM
i thought there was 3 seconds of Colossus without Wolverine in it- with the TV?
Plus there's all those great Beast scenes to watch.

I do feel bad for Angel fans though, he really got shafted in this one.

xakko
07-28-2006, 09:05 PM
Plus there's all those great Beast scenes to watch.

I do feel bad for Angel fans though, he really got shafted in this one.
And Colossus not getting more than 3 lines of dialogue, despite being fairly prominent in promo art?

I think when I finally see it the Kitty-Bobby thing will irritate me almost as much as Logan-Jean.

I find it interesting that Robert Skir - who wrote for both animated series- is taking credit for the development of Logan-Jean romantic tension in The Unauthorized X-Men, saying that he took it from a couple panels of CC's work and that it hadn't been followed up on at the time...

Gene M.
07-28-2006, 09:26 PM
I find it interesting that Robert Skir - who wrote for both animated series- is taking credit for the development of Logan-Jean romantic tension in The Unauthorized X-Men, saying that he took it from a couple panels of CC's work and that it hadn't been followed up on at the time...

That pretty much made me crap my pants it was so funny. Who does this guy think he's fooling?

curefreak
07-28-2006, 09:37 PM
the jean wolvie thing was never really consumated in the comics (at the ones ive read so far) he had a thing for her wich wasnt that unusual since most of the original team had a crush on her but i dont remember any reciprocation on jeans part.

fishtaco
07-28-2006, 09:39 PM
the jean wolvie thing was never really consumated in the comics (at the ones ive read so far) he had a thing for her wich wasnt that unusual since most of the original team had a crush on her but i dont remember any reciprocation on jeans part.Probably because it was a major storyline for 1992-1993 that died when Claremont left the books, and the marriage of Scott and Jean in X-Men (2nd Series) #30 also contributed to forgetting about the Logan/Jean plotline. I would have never guessed that it would have taken center stage in the movies. Hated the movie overall/in general, but liked how it was a major point in the movie.

xakko
07-28-2006, 09:42 PM
the jean wolvie thing was never really consumated in the comics (at the ones ive read so far) he had a thing for her wich wasnt that unusual since most of the original team had a crush on her but i dont remember any reciprocation on jeans part.
well, during Inferno, when he kissed Jean, she was shown to be drawn to him, at least in an animal magnetism way.

personality-wise, i don't think they meshed well- except for Wolverine in his most noble Ronin aspect - but there was said to be sexual chemistry between them.

curefreak
07-28-2006, 09:44 PM
well, during Inferno, when he kissed Jean, she was shown to be drawn to him, at least in an animal magnetism way.

personality-wise, i don't think they meshed well- except for Wolverine in his most noble Ronin aspect - but there was said to be sexual chemistry between them.
i guess i dont remember that.

R Krippler
07-28-2006, 10:15 PM
If you get the Trilogy, will you also get the bonus disk?

Beast
07-28-2006, 10:18 PM
If you get the Trilogy, will you also get the bonus disk?
It doesn't look like there will be a bonus disk. Both X-3 releases are 1-Discers. The Collector's Edition just comes with a 100 page book with one new story by Stan Lee, and three of his favorite X-Men stories.

R Krippler
07-28-2006, 10:24 PM
Oh, I'm sorry I misread the first post.

fishtaco
07-28-2006, 11:19 PM
It doesn't look like there will be a bonus disk. Both X-3 releases are 1-Discers. The Collector's Edition just comes with a 100 page book with one new story by Stan Lee, and three of his favorite X-Men stories.In that case, I don't think I'm going to pick it up...

Beast
08-13-2006, 08:55 PM
The deleted scenes should make the Jean fans happy. :D

Note there is no guarentee that these will all be on the R1 Disc.

Since we're not getting a 2-Disc set right off the bat, like everyone else in the world is. :p
00:00:28:08 XAVIER VOICE-OVER FOR MAIN TITLES
00:00:32:07 JIMMY IN LABORATORY
00:00:27:20 ALTERNATE VERSION: BEAST MEETS LOGAN
00:00:43:12 PYRO TELLS MAGNETO ABOUT THE CURE ANNOUNCEMENT - CLEAN SHAVEN VERSION
00:00:43:14 PYRO TELLS MAGNETO ABOUT THE CURE ANNOUNCEMENT - BEARDED VERSION
00:00:22:11 ALTERNATE VERSION: GUARD YELLS AT THE PRESIDENT
00:01:35:05 EXTENDED FIGHT SEQUENCE AT JEAN GRAY'S HOUSE
00:01:46:22 "PSYCHIC BATTLE" - VOICES
00:01:05:13 ALTERNATE VERSION: BOBBY & KITTY SKATE
00:01:34:12 ORIGINAL VERSION: JEAN DISPLAYS HER POWER AT THE ENCAMPMENT
00:00:29:21 PLASTIC WEAPONS MANUFACTURING
00:00:36:15 HANK WARNS TRASK OF MAGNETO'S PLAN
00:01:13:07 ORIGINAL VERSION: X-MEN BOARD THE JET
00:00:41:15 JEAN SENSES A SCARED LITTLE GIRL
00:00:35:05 MAGNETO ASKS JEAN TO HELP IN THE BATTLE
00:00:34:05 STORM CREATES A WAVE
00:00:15:09 BEAST BREAKS A NECK
00:00:17:19 BOBBY FREEZES PHAT
00:00:15:03 ALTERNATE VERSION: HERE'S JUGGY
00:00:40:10 MAGNETO TORTURES LOGAN
00:00:46:04 EXTENDED DARK PHOENIX DESTRUCTION
00:00:37:24 ALTERNATE ENDING: NEW SCHOOL YEAR BEGINS
00:00:40:02 ALTERNATE ENDING: ROGUE RETURNS
00:01:13:03 ALTERNATE ENDING: LOGAN RETURNS TO ALBERTA CANADA

TIME CALCULATIONS
15.6395 minutes (About 16 minutes) of extended/deleted scenes.
2.50483 minutes (About 3 minutes) of alternate endings.
18.1443 minutes (About 18 minutes) of total extra scene material.

curefreak
08-13-2006, 08:57 PM
The deleted scenes should make the Jean fans happy. :D
i wish all movies had deleted scenes in them.

Beast
08-13-2006, 08:58 PM
i wish all movies had deleted scenes in them.
Then they wouldn't be deleted.

curefreak
08-13-2006, 08:59 PM
Then they wouldn't be deleted.
dont try and confuse me damnit im sure you know what i meant:mad:

curefreak
08-13-2006, 09:00 PM
Then they wouldn't be deleted.
i meant dvds i just made a typo :o

Sophisticated_Gamer
08-13-2006, 09:01 PM
holly SHIT i'm totally getting the colectors edition....total geek out :D

Brian M.
08-13-2006, 09:03 PM
Wow look at all those deleted Cyclops scenes.

Sophisticated_Gamer
08-13-2006, 09:03 PM
are there going to be any delited nightcrawler delited scenes?

Brian M.
08-13-2006, 09:04 PM
are there going to be any delited nightcrawler delited scenes?

He was never in the movie. Never dressed up, never casted. At the end of the X3 video game he tells them all that this just isn't the life for him.

Beast
08-13-2006, 09:08 PM
00:00:15:09 BEAST BREAKS A NECK
Ya know, I can get behind some of these trims. Mostly because I really think that they obviously didn't get the point of some of the characters. Wolverine kills, that's fine. Beast, no.

curefreak
08-13-2006, 09:09 PM
He was never in the movie. Never dressed up, never casted. At the end of the X3 video game he tells them all that this just isn't the life for him.
i wish they could have made some freakin reference to him in the movie.:mad:

Beast
08-13-2006, 09:15 PM
i wish they could have made some freakin reference to him in the movie.:mad:
You had to play the game for that. It was a tie-in.

curefreak
08-13-2006, 09:16 PM
You had to play the game for that. It was a tie-in.
i know but they still could have said something for some of who havent played it (wich is a lot of people)

Venom65437
08-14-2006, 12:36 AM
The collector's edition sounds cool. However $40 is a lot of money for a booklet that I'll probably look at just one time. I guess it will depend on my financial situation at the time...

Sean Whitmore
08-14-2006, 12:49 AM
Cyclops deleted scenes were a pipe dream. He wasn't in the movie for such a short time because nobody liked him, it was because he only had, like, 2 days to shoot.


I find it interesting that Robert Skir - who wrote for both animated series- is taking credit for the development of Logan-Jean romantic tension in The Unauthorized X-Men, saying that he took it from a couple panels of CC's work and that it hadn't been followed up on at the time...


Wow, I didn't realize how innovative Bob Skir is. And here I just thought of him as the guy who ruined Beast Wars. :)


SEAN

curefreak
08-14-2006, 12:53 AM
Cyclops deleted scenes were a pipe dream. He wasn't in the movie for such a short time because nobody liked him, it was because he only had, like, 2 days to shoot.





Wow, I didn't realize how innovative Bob Skir is. And here I just thought of him as the guy who ruined Beast Wars. :)


SEAN
how did he ruin beast wars?

Sean Whitmore
08-14-2006, 12:55 AM
how did he ruin beast wars?


He just wrote it very badly. :)

Actually, I should be saying Beast Machines, but same difference.


SEAN

curefreak
08-14-2006, 12:56 AM
He just wrote it very badly. :)

Actually, I should be saying Beast Machines, but same difference.


SEAN
you must pay a lot of attention to details my friend.

MDactor1980
08-14-2006, 02:30 PM
can't wait to own the dvd... still no word on "The ANimated Series" ever being released I'm sure.

Too much longer and I'm gonna have to suck it up and go bootleg.

curefreak
08-14-2006, 02:42 PM
can't wait to own the dvd... still no word on "The ANimated Series" ever being released I'm sure.

Too much longer and I'm gonna have to suck it up and go bootleg.
are you talking about the one where they were in high school?

Affinity
08-14-2006, 02:47 PM
Wow. These deleted scenes sound hardcore.

Why was the movie 10 minutes long again?

OH, I did my math. 37+18 = 55. Almost a two hour movie, then. LOL though wouldn't it be funny if they put all three alternate endings in the end? And then you vote for your favorite.

I'm going to go make a movie theater chain now.

MDactor1980
08-14-2006, 02:50 PM
no the 1990's one loosely based on the line-up at the time... with Rogue, Gambit, Jean, Cyclops, Jubilee, Storm, Beast & Wolvie. The one that was like. 5 or so seasons long.

Beast
09-17-2006, 10:58 AM
Seems like the 2-Disc Special Edition that everyone is getting but the U.S. on October 3rd, is coming at a later date here according to Brett Ratner. Lame. It should also be noted that Wal-Mart will have a bonus DVD with the basic edition that includes a cut down version of the documentary that's on the 2-Disc SE DVD in other regions, similar to what was done with the bonus FF DVD at Wal-Mart. :p
September 15, 2006 - Brett Ratner, director of X-Men: The Last Stand, told IGN that he is working on a Special Edition DVD to follow the initial release of the film on October 3. "Well, there's almost an hour-long making-of, my personal making of the movie, my experiences making the movie," Ratner said during a phone interview. "There's special features which include, you know, just basically the creation of the movie - I mean, how we did it in the storyboards and original animatics."

The Last Stand was originally released in theaters in May 2006 to enormous commercial success. Ratner said that the forthcoming Special Edition, which has not yet been officially announced, will serve the fans better than the comparatively bare-bones edition due out next week. "This has basically the deleted scenes and some features, but the Special Edition, I think, is the real disc for the true X-Men fan," Ratner said. "It's like the definitive kind of experience that I had personally making this film, when I went into it, from every department's perspective, really."

Ratner also said that he has no plans to recut the movie in the future, and considers the theatrical version to be his 'director's cut'. "That is my cut," he insisted. "I mean, look, do I like the scenes that are deleted? I like them, but do they drive the movie forward? No. That's the beauty of DVD - the filmmakers don't have to fall in love with their scenes, because [they] can exist in another format that people can see forever. If you love the scene, you can see it, so you don't have to put scenes in movies that you love but don't necessarily drive the plot forward."

"Everything that I shot on film for this movie will be on these DVDs, you know?" Ratner said. "The making-of, the deleted scenes, the scenes that I considered, the alternate endings, the stuff that I thought, okay, maybe Rogue shouldn't get cured. But I was really passionate about getting her cured because I think a movie about choice needs to show both sides. But I did shoot another version because I wanted to make that decision in editorial when I watched the whole movie."

Stay tuned to IGN for more news, interviews and reviews for this and other exciting new releases!

Novaya Havoc
09-17-2006, 11:34 AM
yay. i can relive that experience all over again for just a measely $30.






:(

twilight
09-17-2006, 11:35 AM
Well more power to you if you liked this movie.

I think this was the first movie I ever considered asking for a refund for.

Novaya Havoc
09-17-2006, 11:37 AM
Well more power to you if you liked this movie.

I think this was the first movie I ever considered asking for a refund for.

hollerback all the way to pizzerth.

scottv
09-17-2006, 11:45 AM
I am going to buy the DVD just because I love X-Men in general but I didn't think it was that great of a movie when i sxaw it in the theater. It wasn't as long as it could be in that it didn't develop the new characters good enough. Over all still a good movie.

Beast
09-23-2006, 03:53 PM
Prices and specials are trickling in for the DVD release of X3 on 10/3.

Best Buy:

X-Men 3: The Last Stand -- $14.99

X-Men 3: The Last Stand – Collector’s Edition -- $24.99

X-Men Trilogy -- $29.99

X-Men CD-Rom -- $9.99

CD-Rom only $1.99 when purchased with X-Men 3: The Last Stand – Collector’s Edition DVD. Cd-Rom features over 70 complete comics, including annuals, first appearances, crossovers and more // Compatible with PC or Mac // Minimum 20 per store // No Rain checks

Circuit City:

X-Men 3: The Last Stand -- $13.99

X-Men 3: The Last Stand – Collector’s Edition -- $26.99
(Collector’s Edition includes a limited edition 100 page Marvel comic with an all new story by Stan Lee.)

X-Men Film Trilogy -- $29.99

Circuit City Exclusive Emusic card with 50 free downloads with purchase of any X-Men new release // While supplies last // Minimum 20 per store

Target:

X-Men 3: The Last Stand -- Low Price ($15.99 - Expected Price)

X-Men 3: The Last Stand - Deluxe Edition -- $22.99
(Target Exclusive X-Men 3 Deluxe Edition includes reprint of Giant Sized X-Men #1 comic and 4 collectioble trading cards, all in an exclusive collectible tin case. Quantity Limited. No Rain checks. )

X-Men: Trilogy -- $29.99

The Target Tin looks similar to this... however there's no bridge and the claws are cutting into the X.

http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/large/dvd2121534.jpg

Wal-Mart

Standard DVD - Bonus DVD with 50 Minutes of Additional Behind the Scenes Material.

http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/02/45/43/39/0002454339831_500X500.jpg

Sean Whitmore
09-23-2006, 05:22 PM
I liked the movie and all, just not enough to buy it as soon as it comes out like the first two. I think I'll wait until Columbia House has it for 99 cents plus s/h. :)


SEAN

Beast
09-23-2006, 05:44 PM
I liked the movie and all, just not enough to buy it as soon as it comes out like the first two. I think I'll wait until Columbia House has it for 99 cents plus s/h. :)

SEAN
The won't. Columbia House doesn't carry Fox titles.

Sean Whitmore
09-23-2006, 06:12 PM
The won't. Columbia House doesn't carry Fox titles.


Ahh, raspberries.... :(


SEAN

dellicious
09-23-2006, 06:14 PM
why would i pay to watch that atrocity again

Brian M.
09-23-2006, 06:25 PM
why would i pay to watch that atrocity again

Well obviously if you didn't like you wouldn't, but some of us liked it.


[insert enough language and namecalling to get me banned for 10 lifetimes]

Beast
09-23-2006, 06:27 PM
why would i pay to watch that atrocity again
Like UTV said, some of us happened to have liked the movie. Better than Superman Retreads anyway.

KittyPryde
09-25-2006, 07:54 AM
Looks like I'll be holding out for the 2-discer later. Although I was kind of hoping for more Kitty in the deleted scenes (something other than an alternate skating-with-Bobby scene).

Gene M.
09-25-2006, 09:26 AM
Like UTV said, some of us happened to have liked the movie. Better than Superman Retreads anyway.

Sinner. Dirty, filthy sinner.

Ryan K
09-25-2006, 11:07 AM
It sucks that that Wal-Mart bonus disc will only be coming with the single disc version. I'd like to get that, but I'm going to buy the deluxe DVD.

Joe Acro
09-25-2006, 11:38 AM
Well more power to you if you liked this movie.

I think this was the first movie I ever considered asking for a refund for.
Ditto. Within the first fifteen minutes of the movie (I think it was that fast), I contemplated leaving the theater. It only got worse from there. Stupid creative integrity...

Needless to say, I don't want to ever watch this movie again. So, I won't be getting this DVD unless it offers an alternate plot.

Beast
09-25-2006, 11:55 AM
It sucks that that Wal-Mart bonus disc will only be coming with the single disc version. I'd like to get that, but I'm going to buy the deluxe DVD.
Yeah, it's really really lame. Not as lame as the fact that every other region is getting a 2-Disc set off the bat but us in the US. As for the 50 minute bonus disc, it's a cut down version of the 90 minute documentary on the 2-Disc sets from other regions, same as what was done with the Fantastic Four bonus disc at Wal-Mart. So hopefully we'll get the full documentary when we get the 2-Disc X3.

Ryan K
09-25-2006, 11:58 AM
When is the 2-disc set being released?

Beast
09-25-2006, 12:02 PM
When is the 2-disc set being released?
No date set. Could be next year, could be never. It sucks. :p

Ryan K
09-25-2006, 12:05 PM
No date set. Could be next year, could be never. It sucks. :p

Damn. Well I'm gonna wait. I'm getting burned by the double dip too often. I want the new Special Special Editions of King King and Chronicles of Narnia later this year and I bought the Deleuxe editions of those instead of the regular editions when they came out. I'm not dying to see X3 anytime soon. Plenty of other stuff.

Slither comes out on DVD 10/3. I'll be up early to get that one.

larroca fan
09-25-2006, 01:10 PM
Hey us guys in england get the dvd a day earlier than you folks in U.S.A. wow things are getting better. U.S.A is usually to first to get everything.

Beast
09-25-2006, 01:12 PM
Hey us guys in england get the dvd a day earlier than you folks in U.S.A. wow things are getting better. U.S.A is usually to first to get everything.
Not always. Not to mention I don't think that the U.K. has a standard release day. In the States, new DVDs are always released on Tuesdays. There's an occassional Friday release, but those are few and far between.

larroca fan
09-25-2006, 01:29 PM
It does it comes out Oct 2nd. it's advertised on the tv and billboards in the stores.

Arrjay
09-25-2006, 01:56 PM
Any word on how many deleted scenes we'll get in the Special Edition DVD?

Beast
09-25-2006, 02:15 PM
Any word on how many deleted scenes we'll get in the Special Edition DVD?
11 Deleted Scenes and 3 Alternate Endings.

Young Avenger
09-25-2006, 07:09 PM
I already saw the DVD on sale a few days ago. Didn't buy it but I will once I get a job.

generationx1
10-01-2006, 11:01 PM
do you know if the target version will also have the 100 page comic book plus the giant x-men #1?

Beast
10-01-2006, 11:04 PM
do you know if the target version will also have the 100 page comic book plus the giant x-men #1?
Not sure yet. That's what I'm hoping, as I'd like the Tin. But oh well. :(

Beast
10-03-2006, 11:12 AM
Here's what comes in the exclusive Target Deluxe Edition Tin.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/2285/x3targetzu1.jpg

Jake V
10-03-2006, 11:14 AM
I just got the regular one.

I dont need yet another reprint of Giant Size #1.

Beast
10-03-2006, 11:16 AM
I just got the regular one.

I dont need yet another reprint of Giant Size #1.
Yeah. I like the tin, but I'm going to get the Stan Lee Collector's Edition. The new story interests me. And it looks like it's of the Original Five, as Magneto, Jean, and Professor X are on the cover. :D

Sentinel K
10-03-2006, 11:16 AM
Not always. Not to mention I don't think that the U.K. has a standard release day. In the States, new DVDs are always released on Tuesdays. There's an occassional Friday release, but those are few and far between.

We do have standard release days. Usually a Monday.

So that makes sense.

Don't know when I'll end up getting this. I'm really in no rush to see it again. It was pretty wank.

Beast
10-03-2006, 11:18 AM
We do have standard release days. Usually a Monday.

So that makes sense.

Don't know when I'll end up getting this. I'm really in no rush to see it again. It was pretty wank.
Ah, cool. Makes sense you guys have stuff come out a day early then. Thankfully we get our comics a day before you guys, so it all balances out. :D

Oracle
10-03-2006, 12:00 PM
Any word of significantly deviant or interesting deleted scenes/alternate endings?

Jake V
10-03-2006, 12:07 PM
Any word of significantly deviant or interesting deleted scenes/alternate endings?
There was an ending where Rogue doesn't take the cure, one where Beast decides to stay and teach at the school, and one where Wolverine comes back to the Canadian bar from the first movie. The same guy pulls a sawed off shotgun on him again.

generationx1
10-03-2006, 12:23 PM
at target i had a bad experience with a deceiptful employee, who said i could return the last stand dvd if it didn't have the 100 page booklet, when I was told the truth about their return policy ,the same employee said that they never told me such a thing. i was made to look like a fool and don't think i'll ever shop there again:mad:

Jake V
10-03-2006, 12:26 PM
at target i had a bad experience with a deceiptful employee, who said i could return the last stand dvd if it didn't have the 100 page booklet, when I was told the truth about their return policy ,the same employee said that they never told me such a thing. i was made to look like a fool and don't think i'll ever shop there again:mad:
In all fairness, the employee might have had no idea what their return policy was in relation to DVDs.

Zombienorthstar
10-03-2006, 12:44 PM
In all fairness, the employee might have had no idea what their return policy was in relation to DVDs.

Then they shouldnt pretend to.

Arrjay
10-03-2006, 01:22 PM
Then they shouldnt pretend to.

Precisely.

spidervenom
10-03-2006, 03:16 PM
when some one has the chance could you give a short summary of the stan lee story and what issues are reprinted

Will.S
10-03-2006, 03:47 PM
....and one where Wolverine comes back to the Canadian bar from the first movie. The same guy pulls a sawed off shotgun on him again.
They totally should have went with this one dammit!

Beast
10-03-2006, 03:56 PM
From another site:
"Xavier, Magneto and Stan" is packaged in a 100-page digest with the aforementioned reprints of Stan Lee-written stories from the '60s: "The X-Men" No. 1 (September, 1963), with the first appearance of Prof. Xavier, Magneto and the X-Men, "The X-Men" No. 4 (March, 1964), introducing the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, and "The X-Men" No. 9 (January, 1965), guest-starring The Avengers.

Beast
10-03-2006, 04:06 PM
Warning on the Wal-Mart 'X-Men Revealed' bonus disc!!

The extras on the back of the package are not what is contained on the actual disc. It lists it as containing two specials regarding the making of the film that is listed as running 36 minutes. :)

Fox Movie channel presents casting session
Director Brett Ratner, Executive producer Stan Lee, Actors Patrick Stewart, Hugh Jackman, Halle Berry and many others talk about their experiences in bringing the X-Men movies to the big screen. The actors reveal how they landed the roles, learned about their characters' histories and personalities and then physically trained for the parts that bring X-Men The Last Stand to life.

Fox Movie Channel presents life after film school
Sit in on a revealing, intimate conversation between X-Men The Last Stand producer Ralph Winter and three film students. He shares advice for aspiring filmmakers, insider stories, personal insights and amazing on-set experiences gained during the production of all three X-Men films!

Instead of the above, the bonus feature related to the actual comic, it's a documentary running 1 Hr. and 8 Mins. on the history of the X-Men in comics.

jade_nova
10-03-2006, 04:13 PM
Any word of significantly deviant or interesting deleted scenes/alternate endings?

There are two versions of a scene. One version has Ian McKellen clean shaven and the other is beared. If you go to scene selection on the Brotherhood Menu and go to chapters 10-12 there is a floating x. Click on the x and it is a scene of Beast receiting Shakespeare.

Ryan K
10-03-2006, 04:14 PM
Instead of the above, the bonus feature related to the actual comic, it's a documentary running 1 Hr. and 8 Mins. on the history of the X-Men in comics.

That might actually be worth buying the disc for.

I love comic history extras.

Beast
10-03-2006, 05:06 PM
And the errors continue...

It seems that some copies of X-Men III feature 22 Deleted Scenes instead of the Advertised 10. The other 12 were to be held back for the eventual SE for Region 1 coming next year. Unfortunatly there's no way of knowing which version you got until you put the disc in. No word on whether Fox is going to offer a replacement program, put the other 12 scenes online, or just ignore the problem and wait to put them on the SE next year. :p

Note: All the reported versions with the 22 Deleted Scenes are being found in the standard release. That won't guarentee that you get the additional scenes however, but it appears that none of the Collectors Editions or Target's Deluxe Edition have been found with it. Good luck. :)

steve2275
10-04-2006, 12:58 PM
anyone have this?

Beast
10-04-2006, 01:09 PM
I got the version with the 21 Deleted Scenes. Yay Me. :D

Beast
10-04-2006, 02:15 PM
Well, it's nice that they explained something that bugged a lot of people about the movie.

The body that Xavier inhabits during the end credits is that of his twin Brother who was born braindead. You can't see it clearly in the shot, but his name on the chart is listed as 'P. Xavier'. That certainly explains why his voice isn't any different than Partick Stewart, which bugged a lot of people. They even say in the commentary that they got the idea from Cassandra Nova from New X-Men.

Sean Whitmore
10-04-2006, 05:47 PM
Haven't gotten the DVD yet, but I just saw one of the deleted (extended) scenes during a showing of X2 on FX. It was the fight between the X-Men and the Brotherhood at Jean Grey's house, and man, it looked pretty good. Makes me curious what other scenes were butchered for time.


SEAN

Beast
10-04-2006, 05:58 PM
Haven't gotten the DVD yet, but I just saw one of the deleted (extended) scenes during a showing of X2 on FX. It was the fight between the X-Men and the Brotherhood at Jean Grey's house, and man, it looked pretty good. Makes me curious what other scenes were butchered for time.


SEAN
Honestly, there's not really much cut for time. That was one of the few scenes that really could have stayed. I also liked the alternate 'Boarding the Jet' scene, as it gave Bobby a lot of character.

Sean Whitmore
10-04-2006, 06:02 PM
Honestly, there's not really much cut for time. That was one of the few scenes that really could have stayed. I also liked the alternate 'Boarding the Jet' scene, as it gave Bobby a lot of character.


If not time then, I wonder why they trimmed so much? I mean, if a cut scene has alternate information that they no longer want to convey, or unfinished effects, I get it. But why cut out some perfectly good fight scenes from an 80-something minute movie?


SEAN

rilokyle
10-04-2006, 06:11 PM
Are the deleted scenes on the regular edition of this DVD, or do I have to get the special edition? Is the special edition even out yet? I'm SO behind on this stuff.

I'm excited to see the deleted scene of Rogue and Bobby kissing!! :D

I refuse to watch the one of Kitty and Bobby kissing though..... :evilangry

Beast
10-04-2006, 07:15 PM
If you only got the 10 Deleted Scenes or the incorrect Wal-Mart bonus disc ... this may be of interest from SHH. :)

Apparently the studio is aware of the problem and a customer service hotline has been established. You will be required to give them your phone number and home address. You will also be asked to describe the nature of your problem (obviously only for those who have purchased DVDs from Wal-Mart). I have personally called and can verify this. At this time they are taking down records as a decision has not been reached regarding compensating customers.

NOTE: If you haven't saved your receipt from your purchase however, don't even bother calling.

The contact information is as follows:

FOX HOME ENTERTAINMENT
CUSTOMER SERVICES
1-888-223-2369

Ryan K
10-04-2006, 08:17 PM
So are all the Wal-Mart bonus discs incorrect, or just some of them?

Beast
10-04-2006, 08:20 PM
So are all the Wal-Mart bonus discs incorrect, or just some of them?
It sounds like so far all of them are. I really liked the Comic History documentary, but I wouldn't mind the other disc if possible as well. Ah well, I'll call the number tommorow and see what happens.

Ryan K
10-04-2006, 08:22 PM
It sounds like so far all of them are. I really liked the Comic History documentary, but I wouldn't mind the other disc if possible as well. Ah well, I'll call the number tommorow and see what happens.

Cool, let us know. My brother bought the movie and I gave him a couple extra dollars for him to pick up the Wal-Mart double pack so I can have the bonus disc. I'll check mine out later.

Beast
10-04-2006, 08:26 PM
Cool, let us know. My brother bought the movie and I gave him a couple extra dollars for him to pick up the Wal-Mart double pack so I can have the bonus disc. I'll check mine out later.
It's really a nice disc. The interview with Claremont especially is interesting. Heh. We finally find out why CC developed Sage into the character that she's become. The art of the 'Serving Girl' from the Hellfire Club in the Dark Phoenix Saga just spoke to him, John Byrne had done such an amazing job to make her look mysterious and interesting CC wanted to know more about her and started developing her.

mattbib
10-04-2006, 09:48 PM
So I watched X3 again last night. I really didn't enjoy it all that much when I saw it in the theater the one and only time. But I think enough time passed that I was able to really enjoy the movie for what it was. And what it was was NOT the X-Men comic. The movie was really a fun action movie. Without much character development or subtlety or depth. But fun nonetheless.

And I realize WHY I didn't like it when I first saw it (and why I continue to have qualms about it). The movie essentially turned Wolverine into Cyclops. Wolverine got to deliver the final teamwork speech. Wolverine was with Dark Phoenix at the end. Wolverine is the hero. So, while I like X3, it kind of sucks that Cyclops was robbed.

Frodo-X
10-04-2006, 09:52 PM
And I realize WHY I didn't like it when I first saw it (and why I continue to have qualms about it). The movie essentially turned Wolverine into Cyclops. Wolverine got to deliver the final teamwork speech. Wolverine was with Dark Phoenix at the end. Wolverine is the hero. So, while I like X3, it kind of sucks that Cyclops was robbed.

Yeah, it's a little weird, but that's cool. I understand that they'll make more money by giving the masses more Wolverine (who they love) than by pleasing the fanboys. And when they make more money, they make more movies.

thik_3rd
10-04-2006, 09:59 PM
i haven't bought it yet, but i will and i'm a chump for doing so.

Will.S
10-05-2006, 12:16 AM
It sounds like so far all of them are. I really liked the Comic History documentary, but I wouldn't mind the other disc if possible as well. Ah well, I'll call the number tommorow and see what happens.
So the Wal-Mart disc is supposed to have both the 2 advertised features and the 1 hour and some change documentary?

Because if it does, that pretty much kills the reason for the later planned version.

steve2275
10-05-2006, 02:34 AM
is the one with the comic available anywhere?

Syzygy
10-05-2006, 05:41 AM
It's really a nice disc. The interview with Claremont especially is interesting. Heh. We finally find out why CC developed Sage into the character that she's become. The art of the 'Serving Girl' from the Hellfire Club in the Dark Phoenix Saga just spoke to him, John Byrne had done such an amazing job to make her look mysterious and interesting CC wanted to know more about her and started developing her.

So he's finally admitted that whole "but she was secretly a spy all along" stuff was tacked on after the fact? He lost me when he tried to pull that one over on me. He just kicked me in the nuts with it and turned my love to hate....

By the Vishanti, how I want that to be meta-retconned away!

What else does he say?

And is the interview with him available anywhere other than the Wal-Mart Bonus Pack?

By the way.... In the classroom scene in Scene #4 there's a dark haired, blue-eyed girl who's writing in a notebook with some kind of invisible-energy power. Does anybody agree that she looks like a young Sage?

The only real problem being, of course, that Sage--even if she's also got an invisible-energy power--wouldn't need to write down any notes!

Peace,
Syzygy

randy
10-05-2006, 05:51 AM
I bought the mislabeled Wal-Mart 2-discer specifically to get the X-Men comic book documentary. These documentaries are my favorite extras on comic book DVDs (Batman, Daredevil, Hellboy, Look Up in the Sky [Superman], even Ultimate Avengers), and now I can add X-Men to the list. An added plus of the Wal-Mart doc is that its widescreen.

Beast
10-05-2006, 08:25 AM
So the Wal-Mart disc is supposed to have both the 2 advertised features and the 1 hour and some change documentary?

Because if it does, that pretty much kills the reason for the later planned version.
No, it was just supposed to be the two advertised features. I'm betting that at the last minute they wanted them saved for the 2-Disc SE next year.

Joe Zool
10-05-2006, 08:33 AM
It's really a nice disc. The interview with Claremont especially is interesting. Heh. We finally find out why CC developed Sage into the character that she's become. The art of the 'Serving Girl' from the Hellfire Club in the Dark Phoenix Saga just spoke to him, John Byrne had done such an amazing job to make her look mysterious and interesting CC wanted to know more about her and started developing her.


Can you share information about the interview, please? (these things are never closed-captioned)

Danke.

Novaya Havoc
10-05-2006, 08:57 AM
Is there any Dazzler in/on the DVD whatsoever?

Beast
10-05-2006, 09:00 AM
Is there any Dazzler in/on the DVD whatsoever?
Not that I recall. Dazzler is mentioned on the Daredevil SE DVD. :D

steve2275
10-05-2006, 10:39 AM
so
is the wal mart one the best?
what the stan lee comic about?

Fede
10-05-2006, 10:52 AM
Is any of the deleted scenes worth watching? i've already seen some of them at youtube, like the one with phat and bobby, the extended scene with jean and mags, and the one at xavier's.

Beast
10-05-2006, 01:07 PM
Cool, let us know. My brother bought the movie and I gave him a couple extra dollars for him to pick up the Wal-Mart double pack so I can have the bonus disc. I'll check mine out later.
I called the number I mentioned above about the Wal-Mart bonus disc. They took my name, address, and telephone number and said that they'd send out the corrected bonus disc when they're produced. She thought I was calling about the Deleted Scenes issue at first. Heh. :D

We R. Venom
10-05-2006, 01:15 PM
Freakin Choices! Ugh, I wonder if I should get the box set since I only have the first movie? ummm damn i hope it has all the special features as well.

randy
10-05-2006, 08:00 PM
What's the difference between the top level menu choices "Take a Stand" and "Join the Brotherhood"? Maybe I'm missing something, but aren't the subchoices the same?

Ryan K
10-05-2006, 09:14 PM
I watched the Wal-Mart bonus disc feature on the history of X-Men comics. It was very very good. It could have been quite a bit longer and featured some more stuff on pre-Giant Size X-Men #1. The sections on Grant Morrison's New X-Men, Marc Silvestri's run, and everything 1993-2001 were pretty sparse too. But still, it was very cool.

I rolled my eyes when Scott Lobdell started talking about how "other" writers envisioned Prof. X as MLK and Magneto as Malcolm X, but he saw Magneto as Hitler instead. He said the stuff that had been done to humanize Magneto took him away from the being such a great character. Ugh.

Beast
10-05-2006, 09:30 PM
I watched the Wal-Mart bonus disc feature on the history of X-Men comics. It was very very good. It could have been quite a bit longer and featured some more stuff on pre-Giant Size X-Men #1. The sections on Grant Morrison's New X-Men, Marc Silvestri's run, and everything 1993-2001 were pretty sparse too. But still, it was very cool.

I rolled my eyes when Scott Lobdell started talking about how "other" writers envisioned Prof. X as MLK and Magneto as Malcolm X, but he saw Magneto as Hitler instead. He said the stuff that had been done to humanize Magneto took him away from the being such a great character. Ugh.
Yes, Scott Lobdell and Grant Morrison clearly both see him as Hitler. :rolleyes:

Young Avenger
10-05-2006, 09:34 PM
How's the Stan Lee X-Men story? Is it any good?

Beast
10-05-2006, 09:41 PM
How's the Stan Lee X-Men story? Is it any good?
It's actually pretty cute. Basically Stan is writing a story and Xavier and Magneto arrive to complain about modern comics. How they've been stuck going in circles for 40 years. And that at least back in the old days most stories ended in one issue, and they could have a break until the next issue. So Xavier uses his powers to take Stan Lee and Magneto on a tour of some past adventures to show him how bad a time they've had over the years. In the end he agrees to write them both on vacation. We see Xavier bird watching and Magneto in swim trunks relaxing at the beach. And then on the last page Stan gets the idea of cutting short their vacations with a massive attack. It's really very cute. And the various eras of the X-Men rendered by new artists is really cool.

Young Avenger
10-05-2006, 09:50 PM
It's actually pretty cute. Basically Stan is writing a story and Xavier and Magneto arrive to complain about modern comics. How they've been stuck going in circles for 40 years. And that at least back in the old days most stories ended in one issue, and they could have a break until the next issue. So Xavier uses his powers to take Stan Lee and Magneto on a tour of some past adventures to show him how bad a time they've had over the years. In the end he agrees to write them both on vacation. We see Xavier bird watching and Magneto in swim trunks relaxing at the beach. And then on the last page Stan gets the idea of cutting short their vacations with a massive attack. It's really very cute. And the various eras of the X-Men rendered by new artists is really cool.

LMAO!! I would love to read that. Does the comic come with the standard editon? I need to know because I don't have the cash for the collecter's editon (books for College are expensive :( ).

Beast
10-05-2006, 09:52 PM
LMAO!! I would love to read that. Does the comic come with the standard editon? I need to know because I don't have the cash for the collecter's editon (books for College are expensive :( ).
Sadly no, the comic only comes with the Collector's Edition set. :(

Frodo-X
10-05-2006, 10:02 PM
I actually thought that the Stan Lee story was like the "Stan Lee Meets X-men" we were robbed of.

Beast
10-05-2006, 10:38 PM
I actually thought that the Stan Lee story was like the "Stan Lee Meets X-men" we were robbed of.
Yeah, it is something like that. And man, the artist for the O5 scene is amazing. :D

Sophisticated_Gamer
10-05-2006, 10:49 PM
OK...so what is beter to get the Special edition, the trillogy, or just the normal addition? Also when dose the special eddition come out? Was the comic any good?

Beast
10-05-2006, 11:02 PM
OK...so what is beter to get the Special edition, the trillogy, or just the normal addition? Also when dose the special eddition come out? Was the comic any good?
U.S.A. didn't get a Special Edition. We got a Standard Edition (in Foolscreen and Widescreen), a Collector's Edition, and Target got an exclusive Deluxe Edition. The best version depends on what you want. If you have X1 and X2, getting the Trilogy set is pointless, as it's just Disc 1 from both 2-Disc X1 and X2 releases along with X3. Special Edition hasn't been announced, so no idea. Supposedly they're hinting for next year, so probably six months to a year. And see above about the comic.

dreyson
10-05-2006, 11:53 PM
Which edition comes with the comics documentary?

Beast
10-06-2006, 12:26 AM
Which edition comes with the comics documentary?
The Wal-Mart exclusive 2-Pack.

Novaya Havoc
10-06-2006, 08:33 AM
Not that I recall. Dazzler is mentioned on the Daredevil SE DVD. :D

Rilly? Like, how?

Beast
10-06-2006, 09:13 AM
Rilly? Like, how?
On the Audio Commentary when the 'Marvel' logo appears. The director and Avi Arad snark that all the images in the logo isn't from Daredevil, they're actually of Dazzler in different hot costumes screaming.

The Fury
10-06-2006, 09:50 AM
I bought, I watched.

I now want to start a Secret Society against Wolverine and his over-rightous. everyone loves me bullcrap.

This movie may rule but I come out of it hating Wolverine even more every time i see it.

Beast
10-06-2006, 09:54 AM
I bought, I watched.

I now want to start a Secret Society against Wolverine and his over-rightous. everyone loves me bullcrap.

This movie may rule but I come out of it hating Wolverine even more every time i see it.
Yeah, the movies have gotten me to hate Wolverine even more as well.

There was some nice banter between him and Beast though, which I enjoyed.

I wish they would have kept the original version of the 'Boarding the Jet' scene though. Logan's astonished reaction to Beast's old costume and the exchange between the two was cute. :)

The Fury
10-06-2006, 10:17 AM
Yeah, the movies have gotten me to hate Wolverine even more as well.

There was some nice banter between him and Beast though, which I enjoyed.

I wish they would have kept the original version of the 'Boarding the Jet' scene though. Logan's astonished reaction to Beast's old costume and the exchange between the two was cute. :)
...orignal? I looked through the deleted scenes I don't remember that...oh well.

But i just liked Xavier's rant at Wolverine when Wolverine (murdering loser that he is) had a go at him for messing with Jean's head.

curefreak
10-06-2006, 12:20 PM
im getting really frustrated with all the different versions of the dvd and then hearing that they will make a different version of it in another six months.

Ryan K
10-06-2006, 12:21 PM
im getting really frustrated with all the different versions of the dvd and then hearing that they will make a different version of it in another six months.

Welcome to the world of DVD's. Studios pull the "double dip" all the time. Especially with genre films.

KenK
10-06-2006, 12:28 PM
im getting really frustrated with all the different versions of the dvd and then hearing that they will make a different version of it in another six months.

I'd say FOX is the most notorious for DVD "double-dipping"; as they've released several of their most high-profile films with barebone features (or in the case of Man On Fire, none at all), before releasing the two-disc dealies people really want to buy. A two-disc version for The Last Stand is in the works, so I know not to waste my money on what's out now. To say nothing of the fact that I was generally displeased with the film itself. It certainly had its moments, as i loved the inclusion of Beast, and the battle at the end, but as a whole, it's not a film I'd rush to see again. The only thing that'll justify my purchasing of it would be a good deal of special features. And hopefully they don't do what they did with X-Men 1.5, giving us all these great new special features, while NOT including the deleted scenes(none of which should have been deleted from the first film in the first place) from the original DVD!! Or worse, when they released the Director's Cut of Daredevil, and excluded all the special features from the first TWO-DISC release!! You can't tell me FOX ain't some shady-ass bastards!

Uncle Nobs
10-06-2006, 12:38 PM
So he's finally admitted that whole "but she was secretly a spy all along" stuff was tacked on after the fact? He lost me when he tried to pull that one over on me. He just kicked me in the nuts with it and turned my love to hate....

By the Vishanti, how I want that to be meta-retconned away!

What else does he say?

And is the interview with him available anywhere other than the Wal-Mart Bonus Pack?

By the way.... In the classroom scene in Scene #4 there's a dark haired, blue-eyed girl who's writing in a notebook with some kind of invisible-energy power. Does anybody agree that she looks like a young Sage?

The only real problem being, of course, that Sage--even if she's also got an invisible-energy power--wouldn't need to write down any notes!

Peace,
Syzygy
I love how you--one of our most articulate, moderate posters--have this one weakness where Sage sends you into mildly frothing fanboy mode. You don't lose your composure or anything, but it's very endearing.

curefreak
10-06-2006, 12:42 PM
I'd say FOX is the most notorious for DVD "double-dipping"; as they've released several of their most high-profile films with barebone features (or in the case of Man On Fire, none at all), before releasing the two-disc dealies people really want to buy. A two-disc version for The Last Stand is in the works, so I know not to waste my money on what's out now. To say nothing of the fact that I was generally displeased with the film itself. It certainly had its moments, as i loved the inclusion of Beast, and the battle at the end, but as a whole, it's not a film I'd rush to see again. The only thing that'll justify my purchasing of it would be a good deal of special features. And hopefully they don't do what they did with X-Men 1.5, giving us all these great new special features, while NOT including the deleted scenes(none of which should have been deleted from the first film in the first place) from the original DVD!! Or worse, when they released the Director's Cut of Daredevil, and excluded all the special features from the first TWO-DISC release!! You can't tell me FOX ain't some shady-ass bastards!
yep theyre definately going to hell.

Beast
10-06-2006, 02:29 PM
Or worse, when they released the Director's Cut of Daredevil, and excluded all the special features from the first TWO-DISC release!! You can't tell me FOX ain't some shady-ass bastards!
Most DVD companies put totally new extras on SE re-releases. That's been a standard for years. There's nothing shady about it. It's attempting to give those who choose to double-dip the most for their money. And in the case of Daredevil, there was no reason to regurgitate the extras from the first edition for the Director's Cut. What the double-dip was sold on was the extended cut, not the extras.

Ryan K
10-06-2006, 04:01 PM
But some companies when releasing a special edition also include all of the extras found on previous editions. Look at the new King Kong and Chronicles of Narnia SE's that are coming out.

curefreak
10-06-2006, 04:18 PM
why cant they just release one dvd with all the extra's instead of trying to screw and confuse people?

Ryan K
10-06-2006, 04:19 PM
why cant they just release one dvd with all the extra's instead of trying to screw and confuse people?

Because they've found out people will buy 2. Or 3.

curefreak
10-06-2006, 04:25 PM
Because they've found out people will buy 2. Or 3.
are people really that stupid and wastefull??

Zombienorthstar
10-06-2006, 04:26 PM
are people really that stupid and wastefull??

Do you even have to ask?

curefreak
10-06-2006, 04:31 PM
Do you even have to ask?
no but it felt like it had to get it off my chest...

Ryan K
10-06-2006, 04:33 PM
Don't be quick to call people stupid. If a Special Edition DVD comes along that has significantly more special features, and I'm interested in it, I buy it. I'll either sell mold version or give it to a family member. Its not wasteful or stupid. I spend my money on what I want.

In the case of X3, I KNOW a Special Edition is coming out, so I'm not going to buy the regular version.

curefreak
10-06-2006, 04:36 PM
Don't be quick to call people stupid. If a Special Edition DVD comes along that has significantly more special features, and I'm interested in it, I buy it. I'll either sell mold version or give it to a family member. Its not wasteful or stupid. I spend my money on what I want.

In the case of X3, I KNOW a Special Edition is coming out, so I'm not going to buy the regular version.
me personally i only watch the special features once or twice so its not really worth my time and money to do such a thing.

Sean Whitmore
10-06-2006, 05:03 PM
Don't be quick to call people stupid. If a Special Edition DVD comes along that has significantly more special features, and I'm interested in it, I buy it. I'll either sell mold version or give it to a family member. Its not wasteful or stupid. I spend my money on what I want.

In the case of X3, I KNOW a Special Edition is coming out, so I'm not going to buy the regular version.


Right, but that's just it. You wouldn't buy X3 now knowing that the SE is coming out. And even if you did and just decided to sell it later, you wouldn't buy all three(?) of the editions that are currently out now.


SEAN

Ryan K
10-06-2006, 06:29 PM
Right, but that's just it. You wouldn't buy X3 now knowing that the SE is coming out. And even if you did and just decided to sell it later, you wouldn't buy all three(?) of the editions that are currently out now.


SEAN

I do own both versions of all of the LotR movies. The regular and extended cuts.

curefreak
10-06-2006, 06:40 PM
another confusing thing that im having problems with is ive heard two different stories of the comic thats going to be in one of the dvds.
first i heard it was going to be one of the original comics from ther stan lee era (wich i personally cant stand and think was there worst era)and now people are saying its an original comic with stan lee writing it or maybe even starring in it.

Beast
10-06-2006, 06:47 PM
If you'd do some research, you'd know what was going on. The Collector's Edition comes with a 100 page book that includes a new story by Stan Lee and 3 of his favorite stories as reprints.

curefreak
10-06-2006, 06:54 PM
If you'd do some research, you'd know what was going on. The Collector's Edition comes with a 100 page book that includes a new story by Stan Lee and 3 of his favorite stories as reprints.does the collectors edition have all the other special extra features that the other ones have?

Beast
10-06-2006, 06:59 PM
does the collectors edition have all the other special extra features that the other ones have?
Yes. It's the same exact disc.

curefreak
10-06-2006, 07:10 PM
Yes. It's the same exact disc.
but now people are saying theres going to be another one released in six months thats going to have even more extras?

Ryan K
10-06-2006, 07:34 PM
but now people are saying theres going to be another one released in six months thats going to have even more extras?

Yes.

So you have:

1. The Regular Edition. Out now. 1 disc. Available everywhere.

2. The Collector's Edition. Out now. 1 disc, but it also comes with the 100 page comic book (which contains 3 reprints and a new story by Stan Lee). Available everywhere.

3. The Wal-Mart 2-pack. Which includes the Regular Edition plus another DVD called X-Men Revelations which has a 1 hour and 8 minute documentary on the history of X-Men Comics.

4. The Target Tin. Available only at Target. It contains the the Regular Edition, a reprint of Giant Size X-Men #1, and 4 trading cards. It comes inside a tin case.

5. The Special Edition. Which will come out in six months to a year. It hasn't officially been announced, so we don't know what it will have on it exacttttly. We can make guesses whats on it based on extras that are on other countries versions of the DVD and such.

Thats it.

curefreak
10-06-2006, 07:37 PM
Yes.

So you have:

1. The Regular Edition. Out now. 1 disc. Available everywhere.

2. The Collector's Edition. Out now. 1 disc, but it also comes with the 100 page comic book. Available everywhere.

3. The Wal-Mart 2-pack. Which includes the Regular Edition plus another DVD called X-Men Revelations which has a 1 hour and 8 minute documentary on the history of X-Men Comics.

4. The Target Tin. Available only at Target. It contains the above mentioned Collector's Edition, only it comes inside a tin case.

5. The Special Edition. Which will come out in six months to a year. It hasn't officially been announced, so we don't know what it will have on it exacttttly. We can make guesses whats on it based on extras that are on other countries versions of the DVD and such.

Thats it.thank you that helps me immensly ... of course now the only question is if i wanna waste my money on two dvds when the movie wasnt all that great to begin with...

Ryan K
10-06-2006, 07:42 PM
thank you that helps me immensly ... of course now the only question is if i wanna waste my money on two dvds when the movie wasnt all that great to begin with...


The only way I'd consider buying one of the versions out now, is if its revealed somewhere down the line that the Special Edition will be some sort of Director's Cut or somehing, in which scenes are edited into the film. Then I wouldn't mind buying the original too, because in my nerdy little mind it would be two seperate films. Kinda. But basically you have 2 questions to ask yourself.

1. Do you want it now?

2. How important are special features to you?

Make your decision based on that.

randy
10-06-2006, 07:45 PM
2. The Collector's Edition. Out now. 1 disc, but it also comes with the 100 page comic book. Available everywhere.

3. The Wal-Mart 2-pack. Which includes the Regular Edition plus another DVD called X-Men Revelations which has a 1 hour and 8 minute documentary on the history of X-Men Comics.

4. The Target Tin. Available only at Target. It contains the above mentioned Collector's Edition, only it comes inside a tin case.

One minor correction: #2 comes with a new comic by Stan Lee. #4 comes with a reprint of Giant X-Men 1 plus 4 trading cards as well as the tin.

Edit: Thanks for editing your post. We can point anyone new to it.

Beast
10-06-2006, 07:47 PM
4. The Target Tin. Available only at Target. It contains the above mentioned Collector's Edition, only it comes inside a tin case.
Re: 4....

4. The comic in the Target Tin is actually a reprint of Giant Size X-Men #1, it doesn't come with the Stan Lee comic or the Collector's Edition version of teh case. It's just the standard DVD, 4 Trading Cards, and GSX #1.

Beast
10-06-2006, 07:50 PM
The only way I'd consider buying one of the versions out now, is if its revealed somewhere down the line that the Special Edition will be some sort of Director's Cut or somehing, in which scenes are edited into the film. Then I wouldn't mind buying the original too, because in my nerdy little mind it would be two seperate films. Kinda. But basically you have 2 questions to ask yourself.

1. Do you want it now?

2. How important are special features to you?

Make your decision based on that.
Exactly. I own both versions of Elektra and Daredevil because the double dips are very different than the theatrical versions. In fact, Daredevil is a much much better movie in the Director's Cut.

As for me, I wanted X3 now. Not only because I enjoyed the film, but because I wanted the Wal-Mart bonus disc and the Stan Lee story. Plus it has Beast, how could I not buy it now? :D

Ryan K
10-06-2006, 07:51 PM
One minor correction: #2 comes with a new comic by Stan Lee. #4 comes with a reprint of Giant X-Men 1 plus 4 trading cards as well as the tin.

If you wanted to edit your post, we can point anyone new to it. I would also delete this post.

Thanks. No need to delete yours. You can't anyway. :)

Sean Whitmore
10-06-2006, 07:59 PM
Quite frankly, the only thing that sounds the least bit appealing to me is the Revelations disc. I'd like to see that...the movie itself I can wait a year or two years or whenever to own.

And a director's cut would be nice. Most of my criticisms aren't with what's
in the movie, but what isn't.


SEAN

Ryan K
10-06-2006, 08:02 PM
Quite frankly, the only thing that sounds the least bit appealing to me is the Revelations disc. I'd like to see that...the movie itself I can wait a year or two years or whenever to own.

SEAN

Buy the two pack, keep the Revelations disc, and give the movie as a present.

Christmas is a coming.

Though I'd bet money that the X-Men comics history documentary will be on the eventual Special Edition.

curefreak
10-06-2006, 08:03 PM
does anyone think the movie felt rushed?

Beast
10-06-2006, 08:12 PM
does anyone think the movie felt rushed?
Well, it was somewhat rushed. They wanted to get it in theaters quickly to steal Superman's thunder. The only real problem was the focus on action instead of the characters. Another 20 minutes focusing on Beast, Angel, and a few of the other neglected characters would have helped a lot.

For example we see Beast defend the idea of the Cure when he comes to tell Xavier about it. And we also see this longing look when Leech reverts Hank's hand to human. But nowhere is any of that played on, which would have given his character a lot more weight and depth. I'm sure that it probably was an idea they had for him, or they wouldn't have done those two scenes or had Kavita mention them to Warren Sr. later if it wasn't something they had originally intended to play up more.

Syzygy
10-06-2006, 08:57 PM
I love how you--one of our most articulate, moderate posters--have this one weakness where Sage sends you into mildly frothing fanboy mode. You don't lose your composure or anything, but it's very endearing.

Guilty as charged, as explained in my Private Message to you--in case you were curious as to why I have this particular eccentricity.

In any event, as to the dark-haired girl in Scene 4, I suspect that she was intended to be Sage, although I can in no way prove or support this.

She was certainly a cutie though, whoever she was.:o

Peace,
Syzygy

Beast
10-06-2006, 09:03 PM
Guilty as charged, as explained in my Private Message to you--in case you were curious as to why I have this particular eccentricity.

In any event, as to the dark-haired girl in Scene 4, I suspect that she was intended to be Sage, although I can in no way prove or support this.

She was certainly a cutie though, whoever she was.:o

Peace,
Syzygy
The novel doesn't identify her as Sage and neither do the people in the commentary. She's nicknamed 'Weezie' in the novel, after Louise Simonson though. Sage does appear in the novel though, at the very end. She's among the 'New Mutants' getting their first run-thru in the Danger Room, along with Gambit and Cannonball.

Syzygy
10-06-2006, 09:08 PM
The novel doesn't identify her as Sage and neither do the people in the commentary. She's nicknamed 'Weezie' in the novel, after Louise Simonson though. Sage does appear in the novel though, at the very end. She's among the 'New Mutants' getting their first run-thru in the Danger Room, along with Gambit and Cannonball.

Hmmm.

You know...now that you've brought it up, I think I'll actually go and read that novel. It might be fun.

Thanks for the idea.

Peace,
Syzygy

curefreak
10-06-2006, 09:08 PM
Hmmm.

You know...now that you've brought it up, I think I'll actually go and read that novel. It might be fun.

Thanks for the idea.

Peace,
Syzygy
im curious about the novel now too.:)

Sean Whitmore
10-06-2006, 09:17 PM
Buy the two pack, keep the Revelations disc, and give the movie as a present.

Christmas is a coming.


That's actually a great idea. :)


Though I'd bet money that the X-Men comics history documentary will be on the eventual Special Edition.


And I'll bet you're right...I don't want this to be the second comic-movie documentary I've pissed away money on only to buy it again later in a set (I'm lookin' at you, Superman)


SEAN

Beast
10-06-2006, 09:24 PM
Hmmm.

You know...now that you've brought it up, I think I'll actually go and read that novel. It might be fun.

Thanks for the idea.

Peace,
Syzygy
The novel is actually much better than the movie, as the characters are more developed. Of course just like with X-Men 2, there were last minute changes to the movie that don't jive with the novel. But at least it's nothing as bad as them pulling the Death of Jean in X2 without telling the person writing the novel. :p

DHX
10-07-2006, 04:07 PM
can anyone tell me whats on the collectors edition in the link below?
6 disk edition (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000EOTDT6/ref=ord_cart_shr/202-1317096-1017459?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE)

curefreak
10-07-2006, 04:10 PM
can you use a money order to buy stuff from amazon?

Beast
10-07-2006, 04:26 PM
can anyone tell me whats on the collectors edition in the link below?
6 disk edition (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000EOTDT6/ref=ord_cart_shr/202-1317096-1017459?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE)
It's the R2 X-Men 1.5 2-Disc Set, the X-Men 2 2-Disc Set, and the X-Men 3 2-Disc Set.

DHX
10-07-2006, 05:16 PM
okay that goes in my shopping basket then.

Affinity
10-07-2006, 05:34 PM
My brother bought me the standard edition. I don't see why all three endings could have been put into the movie, and the bar one was especially cute. It makes me mad to see Rogue NOT take the cure anyway and then not have that in the movie. Doesn't really matter though---I'll just pretend it ended that way instead.

Crimson
10-09-2006, 02:56 PM
Beast, did I hear you say the 2 Disc Set had a documentary about the comics?

I got the Region 2 2 Disc Set and can't find that on here. What's it called?

It may not be on ours but I thought I'd check before I get bummed. heh.

I have to say, the Deleted Scenes on the DVD are some of the best I've seen on a DVD. Most, because its just for the DVD, are rough footage of the shot not even cleaned up for looking at. These have everything done them, and will of cost them a pretty penny.

Affinity
10-09-2006, 03:00 PM
I just realized there's no stupid Making Of, Special Effects, Score, Costume, Post Production, etc., etc. like the previous two had! Not on the Standard, at least.

That's retarded.

Crimson
10-09-2006, 03:02 PM
I just realized there's no stupid Making Of, Special Effects, Score, Costume, Post Production, etc., etc. like the previous two had! Not on the Standard, at least.

That's retarded.

They're all on the 2 Disc version, atleast they are over here.

Beast
10-09-2006, 03:30 PM
Beast, did I hear you say the 2 Disc Set had a documentary about the comics?

I got the Region 2 2 Disc Set and can't find that on here. What's it called?

It may not be on ours but I thought I'd check before I get bummed. heh.

I have to say, the Deleted Scenes on the DVD are some of the best I've seen on a DVD. Most, because its just for the DVD, are rough footage of the shot not even cleaned up for looking at. These have everything done them, and will of cost them a pretty penny.
I was referring to the 2-Disc set from Wal-Mart. The 1-Discer with the bonus disc.

streator
10-09-2006, 04:04 PM
i just watched x-men 2 for the first time on fx.
it was decent enough.
they were showing clips from x-men 3 as well which looked a little less appealing.
i'll probably watch it at some point whenever it's on tv in the future though.
the girl that plays shadowcat in x-men 3 looks a lot like my friend aimee from college.

Crimson
10-10-2006, 01:40 PM
I was referring to the 2-Disc set from Wal-Mart. The 1-Discer with the bonus disc.

Whats the comic doc called on the disc menu?

I got our 2 Disc Set but I'm not sure if it has the same stuff as the American one. I can't find that comic one.

curefreak
10-10-2006, 01:58 PM
i just watched x-men 2 for the first time on fx.
it was decent enough.
they were showing clips from x-men 3 as well which looked a little less appealing.
i'll probably watch it at some point whenever it's on tv in the future though.
the girl that plays shadowcat in x-men 3 looks a lot like my friend aimee from college.
your just now seeing it? where have you been mars?

Uncle Nobs
10-10-2006, 02:18 PM
Has anyone found the Easter eggs?

Beast
10-10-2006, 02:23 PM
Has anyone found the Easter eggs?
Yep. Did you need directions to them?

Steven F.
10-10-2006, 02:26 PM
Yep. Did you need directions to them?

What were the easter eggs?

Uncle Nobs
10-10-2006, 02:27 PM
Yep. Did you need directions to them?
Yeah, if you don't mind.

I only rented this thing. Too annoyed by the mess to buy it.

Beast
10-10-2006, 02:49 PM
Had to find my notes.... :)

Beast Reciting Shakespear - Go to the Scene Selection menu for chapters 10-12. On the Brotherhood Menu - Highlight and Click the 'X' next to the word Scenes. On the X-Men Menu - Highlight and Click the 'X' on the lower right-hand corner of the screen. Not the greatest scene, and Bobby's acting is horrid.

X-Jet Landing in D.C. - Go to the Deleted Scenes menu. Find the screen with 'Jean Senses a Scared Little Girl' and Storm's Wave' wave scenes are located. Highlight and click the 'X' in the upper left-hand corner. Just a promotional scene for X3 from when the final battle was planned for D.C.

streator
10-10-2006, 05:20 PM
your just now seeing it? where have you been mars?
i don't go to a lot of movies and i hadn't been that interested in renting it.
mars would be nice, though.

curefreak
10-10-2006, 05:25 PM
i don't go to a lot of movies and i hadn't been that interested in renting it.
mars would be nice, though.
but its been on tv for at least a year if not longer.

streator
10-10-2006, 05:44 PM
but its been on tv for at least a year if not longer.
okay.
i still saw it for the first time yesterday nonetheless.

curefreak
10-10-2006, 05:49 PM
okay.
i still saw it for the first time yesterday nonetheless.
well you need to visit earth more often or you will miss out on all our great superhero movies!

Ryan K
10-10-2006, 06:39 PM
well you need to visit earth more often or you will miss out on all our great superhero movies!

A. Why do you care when streator watches something? Isn't there something more interesting you can be doing?

B. Our great superhero movies can be counted on one hand.

curefreak
10-10-2006, 06:42 PM
A. Why do you care when streator watches something? Isn't there something more interesting you can be doing?

B. Our great superhero movies can be counted on one hand.im just kidding around with him sheesh!

Beast
10-11-2006, 03:16 PM
From The Digital Bits:
Finally today, a lot of you have been wondering what's up with Fox's X-Men: The Last Stand DVD. Some readers have reported that select copies of the DVD were released with 22 deleted scenes, while others have only 10. We've checked with our industry sources and have learned this is true. However, we've also learned that the number of discs that were released with the larger number of deleted scenes is very, very small - so little in fact that they all sold out early on the first day. We don't know why they were pulled, and speculation runs from a problem with clearance issues on the deleted material to the possibility of Fox releasing an even more elaborate special edition in 2007. Either way, there was no way to tell which disc you were getting based on the packaging. The main thing to know, is that if you've already purchased a copy and have been thinking of returning it hoping to get one of the copies with 22 deleted scenes, don't bother. Those discs are LONG gone at your local retailer. In fact, if you purchased your DVD on the first day but haven't opened it yet, that's your best bet short of eBay for getting the version with more deleted scenes. Also, as far as Wal-Mart's bonus disc - the packaging claims the bonus disc inside will include a pair of making-of featurettes, and then when you open it, you get a featurette on the history of the X-Men comic book. The packaging was simply mislabeled. You're getting exactly what you're supposed to be getting. We hope this information at least helps ease your minds a bit.

Sean Whitmore
10-11-2006, 04:28 PM
Wow, what a cock-up.

Makes me glad I'm skipping all this jazz for the '07 release.


SEAN

curefreak
10-11-2006, 05:30 PM
i feel stupid i didnt read what beast just posted and now i probably got ripped off because im weak.:(

gforce99
10-12-2006, 08:08 AM
Just watched Last Stand for the first time.

It sucked.

Thank you.

HellFrost
10-12-2006, 08:09 AM
Just watched Last Stand for the first time.

It sucked.

Thank you.
Tell me your name is a referance to Gatchaman!?!?!?:D

gforce99
10-12-2006, 08:14 AM
Sorry, just trolling a bit I guess.

I am/was a big X-Men fan until the late 90s.

Has everything I remember reading in the 70s/80s been retconned or did the movie writers just do a major hack job?

Cyclops and Prof X dead? Logan killing Jean/Phoenix? What???

Sounds like Hugh Jackman and Halle Barry wrote the movie.
Hopefully, they'll have another sequel and start off with "sorry, just kidding!"

HellFrost
10-12-2006, 08:39 AM
Sorry, just trolling a bit I guess.

I am/was a big X-Men fan until the late 90s.

Has everything I remember reading in the 70s/80s been retconned or did the movie writers just do a major hack job?

Cyclops and Prof X dead? Logan killing Jean/Phoenix? What???

Sounds like Hugh Jackman and Halle Barry wrote the movie.
Hopefully, they'll have another sequel and start off with "sorry, just kidding!"
Umm, I kinda liked the movies. I thought the movieverse was an interesting interpretation. Except for Phoenix being one of Jeans peronalites...

I believe there is a wolverine and Magneto mivie still coming out and another team movie which will supposedly(and hopefully) spawn an Emma Frost movie.

And I was seriously curious about your username.:)

gforce99
10-12-2006, 08:46 AM
Umm, I kinda liked the movies. I thought the movieverse was an interesting interpretation. Except for Phoenix being one of Jeans peronalites...

I believe there is a wolverine and Magneto mivie still coming out and another team movie which will supposedly(and hopefully) spawn an Emma Frost movie.

And I was seriously curious about your username.:)
I liked the first 2, I guess I can handle some story alterations as long as they don't kill main characters. Killing Jean, Scott and Xavier? Come on! Don't you think that kind of guts the X-Men story?
Also according to my Jackman/Barry conspiracy, this way if Madison, Famke and Stewart's chars are dead, and the "stars" won't return, they can never make a sequel. Isn't that great? :sarcasm:

As for my name, no, nothing to do with anime. My fam had a comic store many moons ago called G-Force.

HellFrost
10-12-2006, 08:48 AM
I liked the first 2, I guess I can handle some story alterations as long as they don't kill main characters. Killing Jean, Scott and Xavier? Come on! Don't you think that kind of guts the X-Men story?
Also according to my Jackman/Barry conspiracy, this way if Madison, Famke and Stewart's chars are dead, and the "stars" won't return, they can never make a sequel. Isn't that great? :sarcasm:

As for my name, no, nothing to do with anime. My fam had a comic store many moons ago called G-Force.
I get what your saying about the killing. I'm hoping that Stewart will be in the next one because of the ending tag. And i hope they... retcon the next movie so that Scotts not dead. I have a feeling that Havok might be in the next one though. Which isn't a big deal I guess.

And that is an awesome name for a comicbook shop.:D

gforce99
10-12-2006, 09:04 AM
I get what your saying about the killing. I'm hoping that Stewart will be in the next one because of the ending tag. And i hope they... retcon the next movie so that Scotts not dead. I have a feeling that Havok might be in the next one though. Which isn't a big deal I guess.

And that is an awesome name for a comicbook shop.:D
What ending tag?

HellFrost
10-12-2006, 09:07 AM
What ending tag?
do you remember the old man in the bed that Moira was taking care of. At the end she's in the room taking care of him when all of a sudden he says "Moira" and she responds with "Charles!?":D

I was like... WEEEEEEEE! lol

KittyPryde
10-12-2006, 09:22 AM
What ending tag?
It was an extra scene at the very end of the movie after the credits.

It appears that Xavier's essence has been transferred into one of the body's sitting on Moira's table from the scene earlier in the movie where they showed her working on Muir Isle)

Joe Acro
10-12-2006, 09:31 AM
It was an extra scene at the very end of the movie after the credits.
Yeah. It really would have been nice if they'd advertised this. But, like the ones in Pirates of the Caribbean II and Cars, it wasn't. We just can't know when movies end anymore...

gforce99
10-12-2006, 10:32 AM
Well suck. I didn't know this. I already loaned out my copy of the movie, now I need it back.

This makes me feel a little better.

Maybe they can also say that Phoenix was really a clone and the real Jean is in a cocoon at the bottom of the lake. Umm... and we never saw Scott's body, so maybe he is wondering the Alaskan wilds and meets someone named Pryor...love it!

Any other scenes I might have missed?

KittyPryde
10-12-2006, 10:53 AM
Any other scenes I might have missed?
If you watched the rest of the movie then you didn't miss any other scenes. It was just the one scene at the end of the credits as already described. Of course there were deleted scenes made available on the DVD, but I'm sure that you're already aware of those since you have it.

curefreak
10-12-2006, 10:56 AM
Yeah. It really would have been nice if they'd advertised this. But, like the ones in Pirates of the Caribbean II and Cars, it wasn't. We just can't know when movies end anymore...
well it was all over the internet...

curefreak
10-12-2006, 11:02 AM
you know it seems like fox just stopped caring about x-men once singer left, and then they felt they had to compete with superman for some stupid reason(wich is pretty childish imo)so the movie came out completly rushed.
also can someone tell me how many years or months had passed since the second movie ?
cause i just felt it was hard to believe that the us government went to attacking mutants to having a blue hairball sitting next to the president of the united states especially if you consider how long it took black people to get to the same position after slavery.......
and i think beast is wasted in a government role personally i think he should either be in the x-men or be a college professor or possibley working in a lab somewhere the beast i know would never get into politics hes got too many morals and hes too smart it would be a waste of his intelligence.

Frodo-X
10-12-2006, 11:08 AM
also can someone tell me how many years or months had passed since the second movie ?
cause i just felt it was hard to believe that the us government went to attacking mutants to having a blue hairball sitting next to the president of the united states especially if you consider how long it took black people to get to the same position after slavery.......

Well it's an appointed position. If the President was sufficiently convinced by the X-men, it's quite likely he would appoint a mutant. It may not be popular with the rest of the country, but it's up to the President to name his advisors.

curefreak
10-12-2006, 11:12 AM
Well it's an appointed position. If the President was sufficiently convinced by the X-men, it's quite likely he would appoint a mutant. It may not be popular with the rest of the country, but it's up to the President to name his advisors.
but would the beast we know even take the job?

Frodo-X
10-12-2006, 11:25 AM
Movie Beast isn't the Beast we know. Just like Jean, Storm, and Scott were all different from the comics, so is Beast.

As for whether comic Beast would do it, I don't know. On the one hand, he probably wouldn't because he's more into science than politics. On the other hand, he seems to be the most likely X-man for the job. So if they need an X-man in there for story reasons, he's probably your guy, but otherwise I doubt it.

curefreak
10-12-2006, 11:29 AM
Movie Beast isn't the Beast we know. Just like Jean, Storm, and Scott were all different from the comics, so is Beast.

As for whether comic Beast would do it, I don't know. On the one hand, he probably wouldn't because he's more into science than politics. On the other hand, he seems to be the most likely X-man for the job. So if they need an X-man in there for story reasons, he's probably your guy, but otherwise I doubt it.
well from my personal point of view i think the professor should have that job, cause hes always been the spokesman for mutants and mutations anyways,
and since hes normal looking the only problem would be if people trusted him not to read everyones mind.

gforce99
10-13-2006, 11:23 AM
I felt the one alternate ending where Beast is in charge of the school made more sense than the UN scene they showed.

Christopher O
10-13-2006, 12:42 PM
I felt the one alternate ending where Beast is in charge of the school made more sense than the UN scene they showed.
Beast wasn't in charge. He just stayed on.

gforce99
10-13-2006, 12:44 PM
Beast wasn't in charge. He just stayed on.
Sure he was. Who's in charge, Halle Barry? She said she wasn't going to be in any more X-Men movies. Frasier made no such claim.

Christopher O
10-13-2006, 12:47 PM
Sure he was. Who's in charge, Halle Barry? She said she wasn't going to be in any more X-Men movies. Frasier made no such claim.
What does that have to do with anything? He just stays at the school, and yes, Storm is in charge. That's the most logical conclusion, since Xavier asks her to be his successor, and then when he dies, she's the one who makes the decision to actually keep it open, and then in the actual ending, she's there and he's not.

Beast
10-13-2006, 12:52 PM
Sure he was. Who's in charge, Halle Barry? She said she wasn't going to be in any more X-Men movies. Frasier made no such claim.
Hate to tell you, but Storm is in charge of the school at the end of the movie. In both versions of the ending. And the alternate ending is the ending in the novel as well. He's there as a teacher. And it doesn't matter what Halle said. She said that about 3 as well, and ended up signing on. She said right before X3 came out that she wouldn't do X4 and has already changed her mind. She said she'd be up for X-Men 4 already. Kelsey wants to come back also, as he enjoyed the character. And for the love of Pete, stop calling him Fraiser. :mad:

Christopher O
10-13-2006, 12:55 PM
Hate to tell you, but Storm is in charge. The alternate ending is the ending in the novel as well. He's there as a teacher. And it doesn't matter what Halle said. She said that and has already changed her mind. She said she'd be up for X-Men 4 already. Kelsey wants to come back also, as he enjoyed the character.

Storm could always be recast, if Halle doesn't return. Hell, I'd love for them to cast an actor who would do the character justice.

gforce99
10-13-2006, 01:01 PM
Wowza, perhaps I hit a nerve.

In what scene does Xavier place Ororo in charge of the school? Is it before they find Jean at the Lake?

And I realize in the "real" ending, Storm was there and Beast was not, I was referring to the alternate ending, where both of them are at the school welcoming students.

BTW I also liked the alt Rogue ending WITH the powers. But I can live with the other version. They can always figure out a way in X4 to give her the powers back. Maybe she can fight Ms. Marvel and get them back. ;)

Joe Acro
10-13-2006, 01:07 PM
well it was all over the internet...
It wasn't in reviews in papers and I didn't want to jump into an X3 thread because there are almost always spoilers. I made that mistake with Superman Returns.

Beast
10-13-2006, 01:33 PM
Wowza, perhaps I hit a nerve.

In what scene does Xavier place Ororo in charge of the school? Is it before they find Jean at the Lake?

And I realize in the "real" ending, Storm was there and Beast was not, I was referring to the alternate ending, where both of them are at the school welcoming students.

BTW I also liked the alt Rogue ending WITH the powers. But I can live with the other version. They can always figure out a way in X4 to give her the powers back. Maybe she can fight Ms. Marvel and get them back. ;)
The discussion he has with her before they go to meet Hank. He tells her that he won't be around forever and it's going to fall to her to carry on when he's gone. She tells him that she thought Scott was always going to be the one to continue after Xavier is gone. Xavier tells her that Scott took Jean's death so hard, that he's not the same man that he used to be. I actually like the ending with the President giving Hank the position in the U.N. better. As for Rogue's powers, conisdering we saw that Magneto's were returning, it won't be long before Rogue's likely do as well. Probably while having sex with Bobby and perma-draining his powers. :)

gforce99
10-13-2006, 01:51 PM
Well thanks for reminding me about Storm and the school. I remember now. But I thought Magneto's powers were NOT returning at the end???
I thought the Chess piece didn't move? Am I going blind now?
Great!

Beast
10-13-2006, 01:54 PM
Well thanks for reminding me about Storm and the school. I remember now. But I thought Magneto's powers were NOT returning at the end???
I thought the Chess piece didn't move? Am I going blind now?
Great!
The Chess Peice does move, very very slightly just as the credits roll.

Joe Acro
10-13-2006, 01:56 PM
I thought the Chess piece didn't move? Am I going blind now?

See, that's what I thought. And then many kept saying the piece moved. My dad didn't see it move, but my brother did. Out of the two, my dad is a more reliable witness.

Beast
10-13-2006, 01:58 PM
See, that's what I thought. And then many kept saying the piece moved. My dad didn't see it move, but my brother did. Out of the two, my dad is a more reliable witness.
But your dad is wrong. Because it does move, and is confirmed in the commentaries. :)

Christopher O
10-13-2006, 02:10 PM
But your dad is wrong. Because it does move, and is confirmed in the commentaries. :)
Which is why it ended the film. It was a dramatic conclusion. Otherwise, they'd have chosen a different scene.

Joe Acro
10-13-2006, 02:13 PM
But your dad is wrong. Because it does move, and is confirmed in the commentaries. :)
They really should've done that scene better, to create the impact they wanted. The whole thing was still a cop-out.

Beast
10-13-2006, 02:20 PM
They really should've done that scene better, to create the impact they wanted. The whole thing was still a cop-out.
How is it a cop-out? All it did was show that the effect of the 'Cure' wasn't as permanent as Worthington Labs and the FDA believed. I thought it was a good ending, and made Rogue taking the cure less of a crappy scene, as we know her powers will likely re-manifest. It's an escape clause if they decide to do X4.

Joe Acro
10-13-2006, 02:21 PM
It was a cop-out because it undid what had been done. It's almost like them saying that actions shouldn't have consequences.

Beast
10-13-2006, 02:30 PM
It was a cop-out because it undid what had been done. It's almost like them saying that actions shouldn't have consequences.
I don't see how it's saying that at all. If anything it's saying you can't change what you are. Just as there's no magic pill to make you a different race, or not gay, there's no real cure for being a mutant. Like Storm said earlier in the movie... "They can't cure you. There's nothing wrong with us, any of us." They were treating mutation as if it were a disease, an unnatural deviation of healthy cells (like Cancer), when it's really as has been said since the first movie.. the next stage of evolution.

curefreak
10-13-2006, 03:14 PM
ive always said i think iman would have been the best choice for storm, think about it people shes tall, good looking, exotic, and already has the accent down pat, the only thing we dont know is if she can actually act but compared to halleys "performances" id be willing to give her a shot oh and i would have loved to seen more beast especially working in a lab where he belongs !