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Devil_LeonX
07-28-2006, 01:02 AM
I know this question might be better off at the DC board, But I figure who would know this answer more than people in the M board, welll here goes If the Parasite from the Dc universe can Absorb Supermans Powers, cant Rogue do it to?Thanks in advance anyone

Atom_basher
07-28-2006, 05:31 AM
Rogue can absorb more than mutant powers. so yes, she coudl absorb superman's powers

Lanowar
07-28-2006, 10:26 AM
The whole reason Rouge could fly and had Superstrength was because she held onto Ms Marvel for far longer then she usually does. Lately she did the same with Sunfire.

Ms Marvel being a non-mutant means yes she can steal anyone with super-powers...powers.

Callisto
07-28-2006, 11:26 AM
yep, i wonder if rogue willl be absorbing any nonmutants in the future;)

The Sword Is Drawn
07-28-2006, 11:34 AM
I know this question might be better off at the DC board, But I figure who would know this answer more than people in the M board, welll here goes If the Parasite from the Dc universe can Absorb Supermans Powers, cant Rogue do it to?Thanks in advance anyone

There's no reason why, if by some magical tragedy of Comic Book crossover Superman found his way into the MU, that Rogue couldn't absorb his powers. Although in likelyhood he would probablt prove to have too much power for her to tally absorb, and she'd more likely than not short herself out doing so, as she has done with other beings who are a power class above her.

Atom_basher
07-28-2006, 11:36 AM
There's no reason why, if by some magical tragedy of Comic Book crossover Superman found his way into the MU, that Rogue couldn't absorb his powers. Although in likelyhood he would probablt prove to have too much power for her to tally absorb, and she'd more likely than not short herself out doing so, as she has done with other beings who are a power class above her.



didnt she absorb thor in one of her early appearances, if she can handle thor's power im sure she can handle supes

The Sword Is Drawn
07-28-2006, 11:44 AM
didnt she absorb thor in one of her early appearances, if she can handle thor's power im sure she can handle supes

By rights there is no way that she should be able to absorb THAT much power, but I guess if it happened it's canon...

Scary.

ibrakeforchinwe
07-28-2006, 12:03 PM
Rogue has absorbed mutants, mutates, gods and aliens.

She can pretty much absorb any sentient humanoid being, that has a will lesser than hers.

DDM
07-28-2006, 12:10 PM
didnt she absorb thor in one of her early appearances, if she can handle thor's power im sure she can handle supes


Rogue absorbed the powers & psyche of Thor & Captain America in her first appearance, Avengers Annual #10. Rogue absorbed She-Hulk when Jennifer tried to punch Rogue in the face & Rogue caught Jennifer's hand in Uncanny X-Men Annual #7. Rogue can absorb aliens such as the Technarchy, Magus, in Uncanny X-Men #192 then gained an immunity to the techno-organic virus.

Rogue could not absorb the powers & psyche of Vision since he is a synthoid, an artificial being & Wonder Man, Simon Williams, whose very being is concentrated ions from Avengers Annual #10.

I would have liked to see Rogue accidently absorb the powers & psyche of the Sentinel, Nimrod...

The Sword Is Drawn
07-28-2006, 12:11 PM
Rogue has absorbed mutants, mutates, gods and aliens.

She can pretty much absorb any sentient humanoid being, that has a will lesser than hers.

Which by rights would stop her from absorbing Superman sufficiently. The man of steel has an iron will that cannot be easily broken.

Likewise, when in command of his faculties, I doubt she would be able to take all of The sentry, which is Marvel's nearest analogue for Superman. Well. unless The Void wanted her to, and gave her a hand. Imagine that. There's a way The Void could take over The Sentry's body...

AnthonyJ
07-28-2006, 12:13 PM
She can absorb people with a will greater than hers too. It's just that if their will is horribly strong, their minds start influencing her actions.

DDM
07-28-2006, 12:45 PM
The only people she could not absorb are Mojo, an extradimensional being with an anti-lifeforce (she basically burned out after a time saying Mojo goes on forever), Garrok (a god with an infinite resource), & the Adversary in his true form.

When Rogue absorbs someone with a stronger personality than hers, Rogue's personality is sublimated in favor of the absorbed psyche. For instance, when she first absorbed the Juggernaut in Marvel Team-Up #150, Cain Marko's anger overwhelmed Rogue that she became the Juggernaut & the X-Men had to fight her. When Rogue absorbed Spiral in Uncanny X-Men #206, Spiral's psyche gained dominance as she still fought the X-Men in Rogue's body. Rogue also grew 4 other arms as Spiral has 6 arms. Rogue fell under the influence of Selene when Rogue accidently absorbed Friedrich Von Rhom in Uncanny X-Men #208.

Selene, the Black Queen, is also immune to Rogue's powers which may have something to do with the stolen lifeforce that sustains Selene as Rogue found out in Uncanny X-Men #184.

Rubicant
07-28-2006, 01:19 PM
She couldn't absorb Loki or Mephisto either, even though she tried her hardest. What makes them, as (demi)gods, different from absorbing Thor?

Atom_basher
07-28-2006, 01:38 PM
She couldn't absorb Loki or Mephisto either, even though she tried her hardest. What makes them, as (demi)gods, different from absorbing Thor?


inconsistent writing

The Lucky One
07-28-2006, 02:02 PM
inconsistent writing

Pretty much. If you wanted to, I guess you could argue that Thor has an aspect of humanity thanks to his Donald Blake identity that Loki and Mephisto lack, making him possible to be absorbed.

-D

widdershins
07-28-2006, 02:24 PM
inconsistent writing

Mephisto and Loki are sorcerers and probably have magic defences against Rogue's type of attack.And Mephisto is more akin to an incarnation of evil than a normal God.

Rogue can absorb aliens such as the Technarchy, Magus,

Magus overloaded her and the feedback projected her miles away,while he wasnt much,if at all,affected by the power draining.I believe she even says that she had only scratched his surface.

DDM
07-28-2006, 02:36 PM
Mephisto and Loki are sorcerers and probably have magic defences against Rogue's type of attack.And Mephisto is more akin to an incarnation of evil than a normal God.

Rogue should have been able to absorb Loki but not Mephisto. Unlike Loki, Mephisto has no single corporeal form.



Magus overloaded her and the feedback projected her miles away,while he wasnt much,if at all,affected by the power draining.I believe she even says that she had only scratched his surface.

Still Rogue became a techno-organic creature when she absorbed Magus' psyche & powers, severely weakening him. Although Rogue only "scratched the surface" by absorbing Magus, Rogue gained an immunity to the T-O virus. Much later when the X-Men a techno-organic N'Astrigh, Rogue's immunity to the techo-organic virus gave her a distinct advantage in the fight.

Dizzy D
07-28-2006, 02:46 PM
Rogue also couldn't absorb the Impossible Man, so when it comes to aliens it can go both ways.

Callisto
07-28-2006, 02:47 PM
Which by rights would stop her from absorbing Superman sufficiently. The man of steel has an iron will that cannot be easily broken.
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it doesn't matter how strong the persons will is, rogue can still absorb them. its just that when she absorbs them chances are they will be the ones in control of her body not she.

GozertheGozarian
07-28-2006, 03:25 PM
She was knocked out trying to absorb Juggernaut, so it's not always about willpower.

Atom_basher
07-28-2006, 03:56 PM
She was knocked out trying to absorb Juggernaut, so it's not always about willpower.


that was probably more due to such an emtional backlash

RoguefanAM
07-28-2006, 04:00 PM
She was knocked out trying to absorb Juggernaut, so it's not always about willpower.

I don't get that; she's absorbed Juggernaut plenty of times before and wasn't knocked out once. The only time I can think of where her powers are turned back on her because of Juggernaut is in the old 90's X-men cartoon. In Rogue #1 (the most recent version) she absorbed Juggernaut successfully and she used his powers without a hitch

Rogue also couldn't absorb the Impossible Man, so when it comes to aliens it can go both ways.

Impossible Man is a special case, and Rogue's been shown to be perfectly capable of absorbing aliens as long as they don't have any protection against her power's. Some other aliens she's absorbed successfully include the Skrulls and Kree.

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Back to the original topic...I think she should be able to absorb Superman. As for Superman having a stronger will/psyche then Rogue...that's pretty much debatable.

Stagier
07-28-2006, 05:31 PM
do they have to be humaniod of some sort?

what if a fly landed on her when she was sleeping, or a dog came up and licked her face?

and can she absord through hair? or does it have to be skin to skin?

DDM
07-28-2006, 05:34 PM
She was knocked out trying to absorb Juggernaut, so it's not always about willpower.

Well, yes, when Rogue first absorbed the Juggernaut in Marvel Team-Up #150, she was overwhelmed by Cain's psyche; however, in subsequent fights--such as in Uncanny X-Men #217-218--Rogue retained control of herself when she absorbed the Juggernaut again.

DDM
07-28-2006, 05:38 PM
do they have to be humaniod of some sort?

They have to be sentient.

what if a fly landed on her when she was sleeping, or a dog came up and licked her face?

Rogue would not absorb the dog or fly.

and can she absord through hair? or does it have to be skin to skin?

Rogue's power works with flesh to flesh contact. It works on a 1/6 ratio; for instance, she touches someone for 1 second, Rogue will have the psyche & power for 1 minute. For one minute, she'll have their powers for 1 hour. However, there's an upper threshhold to Rogue's powers which will make the transfer permanent as Rogue did with Ms. Marvel.

follieslabour
07-28-2006, 06:03 PM
Has Rogue ever had the opportunity to absorb Leech? Can't see how personally, but there may have been some kind of mcguffin/techno-babble reason.

The Sword Is Drawn
07-28-2006, 06:51 PM
She couldn't absorb Loki or Mephisto either, even though she tried her hardest. What makes them, as (demi)gods, different from absorbing Thor?

Mephisto could very easily twist her into a pawn of his if ever she tried. He's the nearest real thing we have to the devil in the Marvel Universe, and very rarely invest the entirely of himself into a physical body.

Cthulhudrew
07-28-2006, 06:59 PM
I don't get that; she's absorbed Juggernaut plenty of times before and wasn't knocked out once. The only time I can think of where her powers are turned back on her because of Juggernaut is in the old 90's X-men cartoon. In Rogue #1 (the most recent version) she absorbed Juggernaut successfully and she used his powers without a hitch

Jugs is a lot less powerful now than he used to be (or at least, he was at the time of Rogue #1- Claremont seems to be writing him close or at his original power levels lately from what I can tell).

Apocalypse Now Then!
07-28-2006, 07:19 PM
Jugs is a lot less powerful now than he used to be (or at least, he was at the time of Rogue #1- Claremont seems to be writing him close or at his original power levels lately from what I can tell).

Yeah, I don't think anybody knows for sure what level he's really at now...

I hear Frank Tieri has some plans for juggernaut, while he fills in on New Excalibur. Who knows, maybe we'll get a better answer?

DDM
07-28-2006, 07:23 PM
Has Rogue ever had the opportunity to absorb Leech? Can't see how personally, but there may have been some kind of mcguffin/techno-babble reason.

Rogue accidently touched Leech in Uncanny X-Men #195; as a result, all of her powers--including the stolen Ms. Marvel powers--were negated temporarily.

Furthermore, when Scrambler touched Rogue in Uncanny X-Men #211, it made Rogue feel sick, although she herself was fine. The results would not be shown until Shadowcat was made into a permanent phase when she saved Rogue's life from Harpoon's energy weapon.