Uncanny #477 and NEX #10 First looks

[Hi-Fi]

http://www.popcultureshock.com/reviews.php?id=5682

Just a recap of Vulcan's origin in those first four pages.

Art looks ok.

[rilokyle]

Looks decent. The art isn't that half bad.

Still, I don't know how I feel about an all-Vulcan issue. I need my Polaris and Havok!! :p

[Zombienorthstar]

i thought 'stupid little earth man' was quite powerful.

[Madrox84]

Looks like an interesting issue... I like Clay Henry's art, it's alright.

There is an extra couple of pages over at Comics Continuum, they also have a preview of New Excalibur #10:-

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0607/26/marvelfirsts.htm

[Bobster777]

Looks interesting. I like Tan's art better, but I don't mind what I saw. Hopefully, they will show Lilandra and the Empirial Guard in this issue. Thanks for posting.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

First looks now available at Comics Continuum

Uncanny and New Excaibur (http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0607/26/index.htm)

[Bobster777]

Eh, I'm not really into traveling into the past storylines, but I'll give it a try. Thanks for posting.

[The Real Rogue]

Just looked at the previewpages of NE #10, that isn't the Black Knight we all know is he. It doesn't look like Dane.

[Bobster777]

Just looked at the previewpages of NE #10, that isn't the Black Knight we all know is he. It doesn't look like Dane.
As far as I know, it is Black Knight. He is supposed to be guesting. Might just be the art.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Michael Ryan back on pencils on nEX, Thank God! And believe you me, I never thought I'd find myself saying that...

It's a story exploring the origins of Captain Britain's long time mate, The Black Knight - Former Avengers A-Lister, now almost forgotten in the MU.

[Atom_basher]

finally, clayton henry gets to work with a good writer

[The Real Rogue]

Michael Ryan back on pencils on nEX, Thank God! And believe you me, I never thought I'd find myself saying that...

It's a story exploring the origins of Captain Britain's long time mate, The Black Knight - Former Avengers A-Lister, now almost forgotten in the MU.
Are we sure it's Dane? Maybe it's another Blackkight. It sure doesn't look like the Avenger.

[Atom_basher]

finally, clayton henry gets to work with a good writer

[The Real Rogue]

Michael Ryan back on pencils on nEX, Thank God! And believe you me, I never thought I'd find myself saying that...

It's a story exploring the origins of Captain Britain's long time mate, The Black Knight - Former Avengers A-Lister, now almost forgotten in the MU.
Are we sure it's Dane? Maybe it's another Blackkight. It sure doesn't look like the Avenger.

[Atom_basher]

finally, clayton henry gets to work with a good writer

[Atom_basher]

finally, clayton henry gets to work with a good writer

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Just looked at the previewpages of NE #10, that isn't the Black Knight we all know is he. It doesn't look like Dane.

That's Dane's ancestor. Sir Percy - The First Black Knight. And we can assume the guy he's holding up is King Arthur.

[streator]

uncanny looks alright.
i don't really care for the cover, though.

[Joe Zool]

I don't know... The preview pages of "NEX" feels so out of place--or out of time, rather--and I could feel myself drifting off to sleep after the third page. I'll read some spoilers if I can find them, but so far, it seems sort of dull to me.

[Flameworthy]

It's a story exploring the origins of Captain Britain's long time mate, The Black Knight - Former Avengers A-Lister, now almost forgotten in the MU.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't this book supposed to be focusing on the characters currently in the book. Instead what we're getting is a book that has focused on Psylocke, Chamber and Black Knight, none of whom actually appear regularly in this book. In the meantime the characters who are supposed to be starring in the book are used more as background characters.

[fishtaco]

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't this book supposed to be focusing on the characters currently in the book. Instead what we're getting is a book that has focused on Psylocke, Chamber and Black Knight, none of whom actually appear regularly in this book. In the meantime the characters who are supposed to be starring in the book are used more as background characters.Tieri used Psylocke?

[Keith_Martineau]

Tieri used Psylocke?

I think Flameworthy is just overgeneralizing the last couple issues.

Since #8 dealt with Psylocke, #9 with Chamber, and #10 begins a Black Knight arc.

Which, I say to Flameworthy, suits me just fine. Yost did Claremonts plot for 8 which called for Psylocke visitng her brother, a cast member, and then disappearing, as part of the end of the first two arcs in the comic. Perfectly reasonable. I'd prefer Tieri play around with his toys a tad, and not to too much permanent to these characters, because Claremont will be back to take charge of them. We don't want his stories messed up by another writer. And at least the Black Knight stuff is Excalibur related.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't this book supposed to be focusing on the characters currently in the book. Instead what we're getting is a book that has focused on Psylocke, Chamber and Black Knight, none of whom actually appear regularly in this book. In the meantime the characters who are supposed to be starring in the book are used more as background characters.

No, what you're getting is a book which cannot deal with it's central characters as Claremont has ongoing plots worked in for them all, which editorial do not want touched until Chris returns from his respite period.

The Psylocke story was the final issue plotted by Claremont, but s with the previous issue Chris Yost actually wrote it, as Claremont was obviously unable to. The story was supposed to be the link issue between New Excalibur and Claremont's starting issue on eXiles, leading up to the crossover series between the two books which was planned for next year. Only that issue has also not happened, as Tony Bedard has had to stay writing the book until Chrs is back, and while discussion began on the crossover before Chris went on leave that is also a long way off.

In the meantime Frank Tieri is writing stories which link in with post M-Day Britain, without infrionging upon Chris' plots. Not an easy task. His Chamber issue opened up a possibly for new Excalibur to help Jono out at a later date if Claremont chooses to.

And this new story centres around former in-formal Excalibur member, and long time Captain Britain sparring partner from the 70s, Dane Whitman - The Black Knight. Again this isn't treading opn Claremont's plots, but allows the team to be seen operating in an out of context scenario, and expl;ore Captain Britain a bit as a character in the process, via his relationship with Dane.

It has also been made clear by Tieri that he will make Dane available at the end of the story for Claremont to use if he wants to.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I don't know... The preview pages of "NEX" feels so out of place--or out of time, rather--and I could feel myself drifting off to sleep after the third page. I'll read some spoilers if I can find them, but so far, it seems sort of dull to me.

They feel out of place, because they are out of place, and time.

That's not Dane, that's Sir Percy - the original Black Knight. Dane belongs to his bloodline, a good many many generations (Over a a thousand years!) down the line - hence why Dane is holding the title of Black Knight, and owns the ebony blade, despite being American and NOT British.

These panels wont make sense to anybody who has never read any of Dane's back story in Avengers. But the point is that these are establishing shots, to begin seting up trhe story, and giving a quick glance to the back story, which will no doubt be explained a lot more in exposition form later in the story.

The Black Knight has big connections with Cap and with Excalibur. Heck he was part of the second Excalibur incarnation, along with Psylocke and Meggan. The guy you see in those flashbacks to the fall of Camelot is the start of Dane's whole ancestry, and goes to explain how it all began.

[xmanson]

5 freaking pages to show some dead people and a guy picking up a sword? jesus fucking christ.

[Joe Zool]

They feel out of place, because they are out of place, and time.

That's not Dane, that's Sir Percy - the original Black Knight. Dane belongs to his bloodline, a good many many generations (Over a a thousand years!) down the line - hence why Dane is holding the title of Black Knight, and owns the ebony blade, despite being American and NOT British.

These panels wont make sense to anybody who has never read any of Dane's back story in Avengers. But the point is that these are establishing shots, to begin seting up trhe story, and giving a quick glance to the back story, which will no doubt be explained a lot more in exposition form later in the story.

The Black Knight has big connections with Cap and with Excalibur. Heck he was part of the second Excalibur incarnation, along with Psylocke and Meggan. The guy you see in those flashbacks to the fall of Camelot is the start of Dane's whole ancestry, and goes to explain how it all began.

Okay. Thanks for explaining that. :) I didn't read the classic Avengers--don't like them, so that helps things a little. Also only read the Claremont Excalibur, nothing that came later.

But, like I said, nothing I saw really interested me. I'll read some summaries/reviews before deciding whether or not to skip this.

[Daithi]

No, what you're getting is a book which cannot deal with it's central characters as Claremont has ongoing plots worked in for them all, which editorial do not want touched until Chris returns from his respite period.

Editorial don't want Claremont's plots touched upon? Man what type of Bizzaro world did I fall into.

[AnthonyJ]

I think the entire book fell into a weird sort of limbo while waiting to see what Claremont's future status was going to be. Sort of surprised they didn't just put it on hiatus.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Editorial don't want Claremont's plots touched upon? Man what type of Bizzaro world did I fall into.

Well I think they actually expected him to be back by now, but you can kind of understand why they're doing it. It's Chris' book, and he's already set up three ongoing stories. Let somebody else tinker with those without talking through what Chris intended fr them and yuou risk that writer irritating Chris, when they go off at a tangent whereby it makes the story impossible to get back on track.

The logic on putting Tieri on the book was so that he could throw some new ideas into the mix without mucking anything up. He's introduced Chamber, who's pointed out tho the team that he doesn't know them from Adam, and so why would he go with them. Just because he's on British soil, and a former X-Man doesn't mean he's going to join a team of guys he's never even met before. This story wasn't great - you felt it was just Tieri continuing his Weapon X series, but with the revelation of his ties to Clan Akkaba brought to light, and Pete Wisdom sketching down symbols, New Excalibur could easily track him down to at least get to know him, and try to convince him to join again. Orv at least that appears to be the intention.

As for the Black Knight? Well he's alays been a Captain Britain/Excalibur periphery character. Why not do a story featuring him, and highlighting his relationship with Captain Britain? It's out of normal continuity and allows Tieri to show the team interacting in a different setting - exploring their individual relationships without encrouching on any plans Claremont had for them.

I believe, from Tieri's comment, that a third arc might be about the one character Chris hadn't left ideas for - The juggernaut.