The Quasar Memorial Mega-Thread

[drinkblatzbeer]

picked up a pretty big lot on ebay, mainly to get the infinity gauntlet x-over...anyways, read pretty much issues 20-35 of that series and was wondering if anyone else has read and enjoyed it as much as i did...

the malestrom story was awesome, and would be a great villain to see pop up again...
honestly, the run was just about as good, imo, as cosmic marvel has been (behind the starlin Silver Surfer stuff)...

not to mention, overall Quasar's character seemed to work pretty well, and having read these made his appearance in Nova #2 all the more awesome...

anyone who has read it, is it worth going back and piecing together the whole run?

[Expletive Deleted]

QUASAR is one of my all-time favorites. If you liked that middle portion of the run, I can't imagine you won't like the preceding issues. The second year of QUASAR (with "Journey Into Mystery," the galactic marathon, and "Cosmos In Collision") is, to my mind, the best cosmic Marvel has ever been.

After #35 . . . well, it gets a little iffy. The INFINITY WAR crossover is pretty good, but the whole Starbrand thing spirals way out of control. The "Starblast" crossover is just this side of awful.

[StoneGold]

QUASAR is one of my all-time favorites. If you liked that middle portion of the run, I can't imagine you won't like the preceding issues. The second year of QUASAR (with "Journey Into Mystery," the galactic marathon, and "Cosmos In Collision") is, to my mind, the best cosmic Marvel has ever been.

After #35 . . . well, it gets a little iffy. The INFINITY WAR crossover is pretty good, but the whole Starbrand thing spirals way out of control. The "Starblast" crossover is just this side of awful.
Sadly, pretty much everything Gru wrote towards the end doesn't stand up to his earlier work.

[aniscape]

Unfortunatly StoneGold is right. This was a series that started slowly, built up some steam, the engines were really starting to burn brightly and then something happened and it went cold. Once that happened the rest of Marvel lost focus on our hero Quasar and all his appearences were let downs. I owuld sadly joke to myself that he became the new crewmate in Star Treck you never saw before. He would either Die or get knocked unconscouis before he could do anything significant to actually impact the story :mad:

My Hopes for Annihilation are really high!

[drwho]

Quasar was a good book. He just was never thought of as superstar material by marvel. Did they ever retcon the whole Quasar is banished from Earth cus he sucked ego into himself?

[drwho]

Okay vote away.

[kentonator]

second one.

[Will.S]

I liked the third one before he got the new costume.

After I saw the new one though I'd say it's my favorite since it takes care of a few issues I had with the one I liked the most (and hopefully he loses the damn mullet).

[aniscape]

Definitely the one in Nova! It's is a great mix of the second and third choice. And yes...he needs to loose the mullet!

[LordEd1976]

Quasar had a fourth costume that appeared only issue 10 of the Marvel Universe Deluxe Edition. Its not bad looking. it kinda puts together bits of the first costume with the long sleeves that were later part of his second outfit.

[drwho]

Quasar had a fourth costume that appeared only issue 10 of the Marvel Universe Deluxe Edition. Its not bad looking. it kinda puts together bits of the first costume with the long sleeves that were later part of his second outfit.


I'm not familiar with this. Was it a graphic Novel or something? Marvel Universe Deluxe edition?

[Expletive Deleted]

OFFICIAL HANDBOOK OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE: DELUXE EDITION is the full name.

It's this (http://membres.lycos.fr/stephmas78/marvel/q/quasar.JPG) costume.

[drwho]

OFFICIAL HANDBOOK OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE: DELUXE EDITION is the full name.

It's this (http://membres.lycos.fr/stephmas78/marvel/q/quasar.JPG) costume.

Is that definitely Quasar or his Marvel Boy predecessor?

[Expletive Deleted]

I have the issue. That's Quasar.

[Ravenheart]

All his costumes have been pretty good but I like the one he has in Nova the best.

[Huzzah!]

thats not a mullet.

Mullet it short on top long in back. That is a shaggy haircut. Essentially all the hair on all of his head is the same length.

You shave your head and let your hair grow out thats what it starts looking like.

Third costume by the way

[Your Imaginary Pal]

it would be nice if there were an image reference in this thread of his new uniform featured in the Nova Annihilation Mini.
But I'll say the third is the least dated looking.(hey i look likea rip off of a Legionof Superheroes character)
but the star looks like the starbrand star.

in short #3.

[twilight]

Quasar makes any costume look great.

He's just that spectacular.

[Expletive Deleted]

it would be nice if there were an image reference in this thread of his new uniform featured in the Nova Annihilation Mini.http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/expletivedeleted/quasar.jpg

[roundman]

I voted number three, but it's very close. I really like his new look, but I don't like the gloves. They obscure the Quantum Bands too much, and they make his hands look disproportionately big.

If the Quantum Bands were on the outside of his gloves and his hands drawn to scale, then I'd prefer the new costume shown in Nova.

[Satyrquaze]

I thought the third one was fine until I saw the one in Nova #2, I think obscuring the Q-bands is probably a good idea, since as powerful as they are they look a little gaudy as far as jewelry goes.

So yeah the newest one is best.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Haven't actually seen the latest one, only have money enough for Super-skrull and Silver Surfer, so I'm gonna say the third one.

[Satyrquaze]

Quaze is still to this day one of my favorites, I picked up issue #1 from the newstand on a whim and was hooked. Yeah, I'd start collecting the early issues, I'd also pick up Avengers Annual #18(?) where Quasar joins the team after the Super-Nova Crisis in Chicago.
And E.D. is right in that after #35 the series declines sharply, but you should still check it out for yourself.

[Your Imaginary Pal]

Many thanks ED!!!

[Scott Evil]

I'm voting for the new one too; but like mentioned above, it'd be nice if the 'quantum bands' were shown better, not little gems jutting out from the wrists.

Noob question; are Quasar's quantum bands the same as Cap. Marvel's nega(sp?) bands? They look the same, or are they diff? I don't follow Marvel cosmic chars, just wondering..

[Expletive Deleted]

Noob question; are Quasar's quantum bands the same as Cap. Marvel's nega(sp?) bands? They look the same, or are they diff? I don't follow Marvel cosmic chars, just wondering..They're different.

Nega:

http://capmarvel0.tripod.com/powers/negabands.gif

(If this weren't a frickin' Tripod image, you'd see yellow, unadorned bands. No gems.)

Quantum:

http://www.quantumzone.org/behind_the_scenes/quantum-bands.gif

[Will.S]

They're different.

Nega:

http://capmarvel0.tripod.com/powers/negabands.gif

Quantum:

http://www.quantumzone.org/behind_the_scenes/quantum-bands.gif
That reminds me of the Kree Skrull War when Rick Jones was transported into the Negative Zone and crapped his pants when he saw Annihilus coming at him.

Seeing Annihilus now makes that moment even more scary in a "dark things to come" category.

[aniscape]

I'm voting for the new one too; but like mentioned above, it'd be nice if the 'quantum bands' were shown better, not little gems jutting out from the wrists.

Noob question; are Quasar's quantum bands the same as Cap. Marvel's nega(sp?) bands? They look the same, or are they diff? I don't follow Marvel cosmic chars, just wondering..

You know I was thinking about the way the Gloves are in Quasar's new costume. It makes sense the way it is now. It's not like he can take the Quantum bands off and put a long sleeve shirt under the bands. So if he were to wear gloves then having the Jewels cutout onto the gloves makes sense if he needs to take them off or else the gloves would stop at the wrist and the shirt would start at the back of the bands. it would be hard for the shirt to stay on and would keep riding up his arm. Even though I would like to see tha Quantum Bands shown more the gloves make sense.

[Quasar's Bands]

I completely agree with Roundman. The new costume IS great, but the gloves don't do it for me. He should have the bands exposed as bands on the outside of the gloves, and the gloves should be form-fitting and not so bulky.

[Linguini]

posted 2 times sryizzle

[Linguini]

I think the one in nova #2 looks better, just because the artist is better and more clear.
Daym i havent posted here in a while.

[phantom1592]

Always liked the second one. Always my favorite.

[Sean Walsh]

The 3rd one has always been my fav... :)

[derrickfish]

Ahh, I love Quasar. It's good to see him getting some props. Now, I'm diggin' the new costume, though I don't like the fauz gems near the elbows and knees. Correction, they LOOK cool, but they distract from the actual Quantum Gems on his wrists.

I really loved his third costume, but only when Greg Capullo was drawing it. He made the cosmic mullet work.

[aniscape]

I have been trying to track down all the appearances of Quasar. The Quantumzone.org is a great source for all the older things. Can anyone help for the last 5-7 years in what Quasar has been in so I can pick it up!

Appreciate it!

[Expletive Deleted]

The Marvel Universe Master List (http://www.marvunapp.com/master/qaque.htm) says:QUASAR - MARVEL BOY*, MARVEL MAN*, STAR KNIGHT* (I#9, D#10, M, OH: Av, net)—Incredible Hulk II#234 ( ?Marvel Team-Up An5(fb), Avengers Annual#18/2(fb), Quasar#2, 1(fb), Marvel Two-In-One#53(fb), Quas1(fb)? ->MarvM., Hulk234, Fantastic Four Annual#14, Marvel Two-In-One#53-58, 67, 73,74, 81, Dazzler#9,10, 13, Marvel Team-Up I#113, MTUAn5, Hlk278, Marvel Super Heroes: Contest of Champions#1,[2],3, AvAn18/2(fb), Quas2(fb), 2,3, Avengers I#302,303, Av An18/2, [Marvel Comics Presents#21], Av305(Avengers Forever#12), 306-308, MCP#29/4, AvAn18, Avengers West Coast An4, Thor An14, Fantastic Four An22, New Warriors I#1, Q4, Av311,Q5, [Captain America I#365], Q6, Avengers Spotlight#29/2, Q7, AvAn19/3(fb), Avengers West Coast#54, Q8, 9 ,10, Av317,318, Q11, A319-325, Avengers West Coast An5, AvAn19, AWC#63, Q12, AvAn19/5, Impossible Man Summer Vacation Spectacular#1/2, Spec168-170, Thor I#420,421, 427, Namor An1/3, Q13-16, 17, Cap379, 383, Q18(fb),18, 19,20,A329-331,AWC#69, [AvSpot#40], Amazing Spider-Man I#348, Web of Spider-Man#76, Alpha Flight I#98-101, Q21-25, Infinity Gauntlet#2, Q26(Cap392),27, IG#3,4,6, Cap394, Av332,333, AvAn20,[Hlk An17/2, Namor Annual#1, Iron Man An12], AWC An6, Av334-339, Q28/Th437/Cap395, Q29-31,AWC#80,Q32,Wonder Man #7, A345, AWC81, Q33, Av346, AWC82, Q34, Cap401, A347, Q35-37, 38/Infinity War#2, Fantastic Four I#367/IW3/F4#368/WM13/Warlock & the Infinity Watch#8/IW4/F4#369/WM14/Q39/IW5/Q40,[41],42-46, 47,48, 49,50, 51,52, 53,Starblast#1,Q54,SB2,Q55,SB3,Q56,SB4,Q57-60, StarMasters#1-3, Cosmic Powers Unlimited#4,5, Silver Surfer III#111, 121,122, Avengers III#1-3, Captain America III#3, Av4, Maximum Security#1,Thor II#30,MaxS#2,Av35,MS#3, Av38, X-Men Unlimited#32(fb), Fantastic Four III#46, Av47,48, 50,[51],52,53, 55, Order#5,6, Marvel Universe: The End#1, 5, 6, [Avengers/Thunderbolts#3], Av86-88, Hercules III#1(fb?), FF520-523, GLA#4, Marvel Team-Up III#13, She-Hulk II#7Decipher that, and you're good to go.

[Bedlam66]

The Third used to be my fav but the New ones OWNS!!!!!!

[Sorcerer Supreme]

Its a close call between number 3 and the new costume in Nova, but i go for number 3. Its a classic, not cheesey, but not over the top like the bands in the new one.

[aniscape]

Ahh, I love Quasar. It's good to see him getting some props. Now, I'm diggin' the new costume, though I don't like the fauz gems near the elbows and knees. Correction, they LOOK cool, but they distract from the actual Quantum Gems on his wrists.

I really loved his third costume, but only when Greg Capullo was drawing it. He made the cosmic mullet work.


hehe you said cosmic mullet :P

you are right it seems the only one that was able to draw the third costume right was Greg. Though the 1 1/2 books that Steve Lightle drew him were cool!

[Babylon23]

Costume 3 is great, and would have gotten my vote, but the redesign from Nova is excellent. It's nicely updated to modern sensibilities, while still retaining the classic elements.

New costume all the way.

[Citizen V]

I would have to say his 3rd costume.

[Giant Guy]

Does anyone know if the artist for much of Quasar's series Mike Manley is still working in comics? I loved his Quasar issues and was wondering if he is still around?

[Sean Walsh]

Does anyone know if the artist for much of Quasar's series Mike Manley is still working in comics? I loved his Quasar issues and was wondering if he is still around?

Yes, he's still in the business. Works with Draw Magazine or one of those mags over at TwoMorrows, as well as smaller press stuff I think.

And I think he *just* did inks on a recent Marvel or DC book. I saw "Manley" on the cover and said "Oh wow, it's Mike!"

[Giant Guy]

Thanks. I really liked his style. I know he was never a big name but I think he did a great job with Quasar.

[drwho]

Thanks. I really liked his style. I know he was never a big name but I think he did a great job with Quasar.

I'd also reccomend you check out his darkhawk cool stuff.

[aniscape]

Thanks. I really liked his style. I know he was never a big name but I think he did a great job with Quasar.

Manley's initial issues were great but then Marvel changed the way do colored the book or something and after issue 12 it seemed like he was rushing through most of the panels. Which is a shame cause i liked his early stuff a lot. Actually Issue #7 was my first Quasar issue... and the rest is history :)

[Giant Guy]

I'd also reccomend you check out his darkhawk cool stuff.

I already have most of the series. Missing the last nine issues, because my shop at the time was having trouble with Marvel's distribution and I never bothered to track the rest down. I agree though Darkhawak was great especially early in the series.

[aniscape]

If there where any doubts by those who have not experienced Quasar like I have of what he has been through and what he is capable of then click on the link below and see for yourselves. A great big thank you to "Thorion" the original poster of this masterpiece :)

Linky (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=29822)

[Dark Soul # 7]

So he has lots of powers and little personality.
I'm sorry but that's my biggest problem with the character.

[aniscape]

So he has lots of powers and little personality.
I'm sorry but that's my biggest problem with the character.

That's what Andy and his crew are for. If you don't think he has personality then let's see what Andy can come up with. For me I dig what he is and who he is. I see something special in Quasar and hopefully one day others will see it as well.

[Dark Soul # 7]

That's what Andy and his crew are for. If you don't think he has personality then let's see what Andy can come up with. For me I dig what he is and who he is. I see something special in Quasar and hopefully one day others will see it as well.Hey I know the feeling. I always see great things in Firelord, or at least what could be done with him. But he's been unjustly treated like some kind of whipping boy, much like Gladiator. Hell I sometimes even think about writing a Firelord fanfiction, and I would if I didn't have other more important personal projects.

[Quasar's Bands]

Any character with such potential can be written well. This character has tons. His mom has cancer, and his sister has no significant other, so why not use those story lines to perhaps get his sister off planet and have quas and his sister both become a "cosmic" family - the likes never seen in a comic before? Next, get quas into some pretty dreadful predicaments so he is still a hero, but less "golly gee whiz." Finally, get him into a serious relationship - how many of those do we actually see in space? How about a kid or two, even?

[aniscape]

A few people have asked who exactly is Quasar? Or not sure of what he's been upto since he wore the Bandana on his head. I found a great article:

Who is Quasar? (http://comicbookbin.com/powerextreme001.html)

If you get a chance it is a good read :)

[IMJ]

I use to correspond with Will about this site, but unforetunately it hasn't been updated in a long time. It's really a fantastic site though... I was debating about asking if he'd like me to take it over for him to keep it going...

http://www.quantumzone.org/
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[Elegance Liberty]

Suh-weet. I've been looking for some good history on him for a while too.

It's kinda funny, the characters you get interested in/have fanspazzes about. Quasar is probably the last character I ever imagined myself liking.. probably because I didn't know he exsisted until I learned more about 'Annihilation'. =D;;;

He seems like a real dear. And guys with shag mullets = the win.

(And I guess it's also because of Aniscape's sincere/genuine 'love' -for lack of a better term- for the character that really draws me to learn more about Quasar too. I tend to get interested in things if people I know are really into 'em)

Thanks for the links!

[aniscape]

I use to correspond with Will about this site, but unforetunately it hasn't been updated in a long time. It's really a fantastic site though... I was debating about asking if he'd like me to take it over for him to keep it going...

http://www.quantumzone.org/
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You're on the money with that site IMJ! So what has happened to "Will" has he lost interest? If you take it over maybe I could help in some way as well. Let me know. Just PM me if anything starts moving with that.

[aniscape]

Suh-weet. I've been looking for some good history on him for a while too.

It's kinda funny, the characters you get interested in/have fanspazzes about. Quasar is probably the last character I ever imagined myself liking.. probably because I didn't know he exsisted until I learned more about 'Annihilation'. =D;;;

He seems like a real dear. And guys with shag mullets = the win.

(And I guess it's also because of Aniscape's sincere/genuine 'love' -for lack of a better term- for the character that really draws me to learn more about Quasar too. I tend to get interested in things if people I know are really into 'em)

Thanks for the links!

Anytime Elegance! I just really connect with Wendell on the human level and think that the Quantum Bands is one of the coolest powers for a character! All the amazing things he can do. I wish I had me a pair of those...one jewel even ;)

Ohh and BTW I am so looking forward to Zenosaga III!

[IMJ]

See the thing about the character is his simple humanity. He has mastered the Quantum Bands through guiding them rather than controlling them. He's the original Zen hero who's calm demeanor has allowed him to channel an immense power the only way the Q-Bands CAN be channeled.

He's a mistaken character, others mistake his kindness for weakness, but he continues to do his job despite being looked down on the by the rest of the cosmic players. Quasar is a true hero because of his commitment to his station despite its overwhelming, and nearly ridiculous nature. Truthfully, one of the most simply directed quotes from the character defines his heroic nature more than has ever been defined by the likes of the Surfer or Warlock or Nova: "I'm not sure if I have what it takes to protect the whole darn cosmos, but if I'm the guy you want for the job, I'll do my best to do it!"

On SO many levels, Eon's transformation of Quasar was so much more than Galactus' of the Surfer....
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[aniscape]

Before I ran into Annihilation in the LCS and before I found this forum, I thought that quantumzone.com was just my imagination. Could there truely be others that feel the same way I feel toward Quasar/Wendell? Gratefully there are!

And you just nailed it on the head. Every thing IMJ said...I couldn't have said better!

Another great part is his ability to deal! I mean if you read his 60 book series the amount of "stuff" that has happened to him, that he has overcome, to be able to still stick to his ideals is uncanny. Yes he has moments of depression but he works through it and goes on. A great aspect in a Hero. The ability to stop the brooding and be able to find happiness again. Of course this will sound corny but oh well... See I read Quasar in my teens, and you had your punishers and other characters out there who were about blood and violence. But Quasar was differrent he inspired hope when I thought there was none. When he got through the Cosmos in Collision Story and became a stronger person for it, what a GREAT example of learning and growing through adversity. I mean, He lost his father, lost his mentor, everything he worked so hard to protect was being destroyed, he lost his hands, he lost his life, he lost his Quantum bands, all this in a matter of days. But he found a way.

I could go on, and I might later on, but needless to say. All the talk on the boards about "Quasar getting killed" just isn't in his character! He is the hero I look to that will triumph over anything even when you have been taken to the lowest part and it all seems bleak. In my eyes he is the good of Humanity in comics today!

[Downtown]

Didn't Quasar have the Starbrand for a while? Does he still have it?

[aniscape]

Didn't Quasar have the Starbrand for a while? Does he still have it?

See... I have to go back and re-read by books. Supposedly it burnt itself off when Quasar got killed by the Ultimate Nullifier. But I truly don't understand the Power and significance of the Starbrand.

I think there are some gaps that can be explored. One of my assumptions was that once you had the Brand it was your's forever. I loved it when Quasar Got the brand and placed it on his eye! He could see cosmic trails and other things but it just looked cool. With that new Capullo suit he got and the Starbrand Eye patch he reminded me of the Marvel's Captain Harlock. Was was fine by me cause Harlock is :cool:

[drwho]

His girlfriend that was trapped on the New Universe planet got the starbrand from Quasar.

[Downtown]

any chance u have a pic of that costume ani?

[aniscape]

any chance u have a pic of that costume ani?

Not the greatest pic (wasn't crazy about this artist) here he is with the Starbrand on his eye:

http://www.quantumzone.org/issues/quasar/covers/quasar47.gif

[aniscape]

Here is one of my favorite pics of Quasar. Some might joke but I think it truly captures Quasar's innocence while granted such a great burden and responsibility as Protector of the Universe!

http://www.quantumzone.org/gallery/pin-ups/quasar_corner-box-art.jpg

[Downtown]

ok, well I'll counter with my favorite buckethead pic:
27799

[aniscape]

That is so coool! Did you make that? Could you make one of Quasar!

[Expletive Deleted]

It's one of Chris Giarrusso's Mini-Marvels, I think.

More here (http://www.chrisgcomics.com/marvels.html)

[Downtown]

good call E.D. I found it on a nova forum.

[aniscape]

This is what I get for surfing the web

http://jerome.galica.free.fr/challenge/greenquasar.gif


Could someone make this into a Avatar size pic so I could use it :D

(edit)Nevermind... figured it out!

[IMJ]

[QUOTE=aniscape]And you just nailed it on the head. Every thing IMJ said...I couldn't have said better!QUOTE]

Thanks, man! Maybe our esteemed and highly involved editor will take that arguement to heart when considering the character....? :)
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[aniscape]

[QUOTE=aniscape]And you just nailed it on the head. Every thing IMJ said...I couldn't have said better!QUOTE]

Thanks, man! Maybe our esteemed and highly involved editor will take that arguement to heart when considering the character....? :)
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One can only hope!

[drwho]

This is what I get for surfing the web

http://jerome.galica.free.fr/challenge/greenquasar.gif


Could someone make this into a Avatar size pic so I could use it :D

(edit)Nevermind... figured it out!

How shameful!! How can you have an image of a character you like so much looking like Green Lantern.:rolleyes:The Quasar I know has better fashion sense then that.

[aniscape]

How shameful!! How can you have an image of a character you like so much looking like Green Lantern.:rolleyes:The Quasar I know has better fashion sense then that.


Even Quasar has a sense of humor :D It won't last long. It's only until I complete the one I am currently working on.

[IMJ]

Didn't Quasar have the Starbrand for a while? Does he still have it?

The Starbrand was not totally burnt out. This was explored in the gigantic (and admittedly poorly done) Starblast mini series and crossover. After the series, the plotline of the Starbrand (which was inspired, but lingered for far too long) was resolved by the Living Tribunal.

The brand remnants were lifted from Quasar who had transferred some of the power to Kayla Ballentine. She was then exiled to a planet with the remaining New Universe characters kept under the auspices of the The Stranger for study. This was ruled buy the Living Tribunal in order to balance the power which had been tipped because of the presence of the Star Brand in the 616 universe.

Unfortunately, the art on Quasar languished around this time, and nearly the last half of Quasar's run became about Quasar chasing down either the Q-Bands or the Starbrand and the havok it caused. There were some gem issues in that final span here or there. And just to note: although the final issues of Quasar leave something to be desired, they are harder to find nowadays in decent shape, perhaps because of the lower print runs of the title as it was weaving in and out of cancellation. Of note, the last 2 or 3 issues are sometimes harder to come by, and Quasar 59 with Thanos is a keeper.

The series ended on a downright depressing note, with all of Quasar's supporting cast more or less being alienated under strange circumstances, victimized by third tier characters or disenchanted by Q-Ball. The final issue shows Quasar's sad exile into space after an embarrassing throw-in the towel defeat with the Presence.

It DID set the stage for the Starmasters short lived series (which had real potential, but may have been a case of too little and too late for the era).

IMO, the best art runs on the book were by Ryan, Capullo (BEFORE he was a McFarlane clone he was a fantastic artist with a style all his own), and later Lightle and Smith (who for a while back then, I actually thought may have been Bart Sears under a psuedonym like his Whitman Wizard covers).

-whew- If there was a Quasar fanzine like Advanced Iron for IM, that would've been the layout for an article! lol
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[aniscape]

Well put IMJ! Though the Starbrand storyline was a bit "hmm" I did enjoy haveing Q with the Starbrand Eyepatch :)

[astronato]

Are there any trades out with Quasar featured prominently? I've looked on Amazon and haven't found anything.

[Expletive Deleted]

He plays a significant supporting role in OPERATION: GALACTIC STORM and INFINITY WAR, but there aren't any trades with him as the lead.

[astronato]

He plays a significant supporting role in OPERATION: GALACTIC STORM and INFINITY WAR, but there aren't any trades with him as the lead.

.....Thank you

[drwho]

Why waste money on trades when you could probably find his whole series in the 50 cent bins at the local comic shop?

[IMJ]

It's ashame there isn't a large back issue demand for that series, because the last few books of the run are relatively htf in decent condition, and many of the books in the run are real gems...

[Absalom]

I was looking at Quasar's bio on Wiki, and something caught my eye: It said Wendell once travelled from Earth to Uranus (before he learned how to Q-jump) flying for 4 years nonstop.

My doubt is: does the Q-bands have the power to negate the user's physical needs - like food, water and sleep - or did the writer simply hadn't noticed that detail ?

The bio in question is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasar_%28comics%29#The_Quantum_Bands

[marshal99]

I remember that he basically went into a state of hibernation where all his bodily functions were kept minimal ,i believe it was covered in the first issue of his comic.

[Desaad]

He had a bunch of extra equipment given to him by his Father, a scientist.

This slowed his bodily functions to 1/100 of the normal level, provided oxygen, sustenance, etc.

It was also programmed to wake him up when he neared Uranus.



Astro

[Mysterio's Helmet]

And no aniscape replies.....he must be taking this pretty hard.

Hang in there, bud.

[Silver Nimbus]

Have a little faith...

I think faith is all we've got left, Andy.


Annihilation is a good story. A strong story. A moving story. And thus far, an incomplete story. It's not done yet. I think the thing I'm most afraid of is it will be completed in an intelligent and mature fashion. And that in doing so, it will kill superhero comics for me.

I don't want to put away childish things, as 1 Corinthians 13:11 goes, just because I have become a man. And the problem is, a damn fine job is being done to present a war in space that makes a man out of Nova, and vicariously, the reading audience. Killing Quasar in Annihilation is one of the essential elements in that. It's why in many war movies they kill the quiet, Bible/Torah/Koran/Rigveda/etc reading soldier whose virtue they build up in the story. It shows how terrible war can be.

If this was a MAX imprint title, or DC's Vertigo line, I would go in aware that bad things will happen to good people. It's why I tend to avoid those titles for the most part - if I want emotionally mature content I'd rather read a fully text medium. But having come into this without that forewarning, it's difficult dealing with one of my favorite characters from a time when I was much younger being snuffed out fairly casually. He's not dying to save the day, he's just another casualty.

I'm certain that's the intent, and it's well executed. But as a long-time Marvel reader and new father, I'm not looking for an exercise in extremely mature storytelling. I'm looking for escapist four color cosmic adventure where the good guys save the day. Nameless, faceless casualties are fine - it shows us how bad the villains are supposed to be. But when we lose something we hold dear, it changes things forever.

You're in the process of telling an excellent story. I'm just apprehensive that you're going to lose me as a reader in the process.


*Addendum*

It's not entirely Andy et al's fault I'm souring on the state of affairs at Marvel. I'm also a huge Iron Man fan, and the ruckus around Civil War with the attendant Iron Man/SHRA bashing both fan-wise and authorwise (I'm looking at you J. Michael Straczynski) is a downer. The one-two punch of "Kill one favorite character who doesn't have the connections to return" and "Turn other favorite character into a Pariah" isn't easy to withstand. Heh, at least the FLCS shopkeeps give us moping Quasar fans sympathy. You don't get many Iron Man sympathizers. Some young turk in a Cap t-shirt sized me up after I made a pro-IM comment last month, before thinking the better of it.

So Andy, can you take some pity on me and IMJ? *smirk*

[Quasar's Bands]

Quasar as Obi Won Kanobi (sp?). It seemed like it was coming. Someone else will "inherit" the bands. That seemed obvious too. I hope I'm wrong on the second part. (sigh). I'll collect the series, 'cause I'm a shmo with the hopes that the hero I've always loved returns (and yes, Marvel will get my money in the process - grumble, grumble). If Mr. Vaughn is dead, even if his death had meaning, his life (had it been portrayed well) would have meant more to many of us. That being said, hope springs eternal - well - until the end of the series at least.

[aniscape]

And no aniscape replies.....he must be taking this pretty hard.

Hang in there, bud.

Hello all! I appreciate the concern but I am doing fine :)

I made a promide to Andy that I would keep the faith and keep an open mind so I will do that. Just remember Andy that just because a charatcer isn't popular doesn't mean he is expandable. I have an issue with any hero dying but that's for another thread. This is a comic book and heroes should prevail no matter what!

Anywho... If this does happen to be Quasar's last appearnece in Nova 4 I do have a few qualms. First off this gives the impression that nice guys finish last and if anything Quasar was known for being the kind Protector of the Universe. That is not something I wish to tell my kids when they ask me "Hey dad so what happened to your favorite superhero Quasar?" That last image of Quasar is not the lasting impression I want to see of my comic hero, and I have been reading the Nova books to my 4 year old and can't bring myself to show him Quasar's death scene :(

And of course as others have mentioned I could see quite a few ways he could have gotten out of that particular perdicament but maybe some explanation will be brought to this.

One of the things that is in the back of my head is Thanos. He once tried to use the "Blue Marvel (The revived Marvel Boy from the 50's which Thanos resurrected when he had the Infinity Gauntlet)" to be his Protecter of the Universe in the Quasar series so it wouldn't suprise me if the thing he asked Annihilus for was Quasar and or the Quantum bands (since the request was placed well after Quasar was absorbed into Annihilus Joy Toy around his neck, And Thanos would most likely be able to feel that or since he and Mistress death are close could ask for Quasar's Soul to be returned). You said big changes Andy and that would be pretty impressivly Big if Quasar became Thanos's Avatar (at least during Annihilation) I am sure Thanos is aware of Drax and he would want to manipulate Quasar to stand between Him and Drax. Just a thought. Can you shed any light on this Andy?

So that's my piece... keeping the faith!

[Sean Walsh]

It should be interesting for Quasar fans over the next several months.

Just an FYI, Andy: do note that, IMHO, we're fans of Quasar because of Wendell Vaughn himself, and not necessarily of just the "Protector of the Universe / quantum bands" concept. :)

[aniscape]

Just an FYI, Andy: do note that, IMHO, we're fans of Quasar because of Wendell Vaughn himself, and not necessarily of just the "Protector of the Universe / quantum bands" concept. :)

Ding Ding... Give this man a Quantum dollar!!

[Silver Nimbus]

Ding Ding... Give this man a Quantum dollar!!

Nah, give him a real dollar. Annihilus might eat that Quantum dollar, he's been looking way too hungry lately. But the sentiment is right.

Replacement? We don't need no stinkin' replacement. We want the real deal.

[Sean Walsh]

One other thing I meant to add:

Regarding Quasar's death............I'm not really pissed off or horribly upset.

It sucks, sure, but ANNIHILATION has been done well so far and I suspect will keep being an excellent story up to the end.

So the fact that Quasar died in a good story, and not some half-assed P.O.S. story, keeps me content about the whole thing.

And even if he doesn't come back, I think I'm kinda fine with it.....

For now. ;) :p

[Mjolnir]

Wendell Wendell Wendell...may you rest in pieces.

Personally, as much as i love Quasar, i think that this was a good move.

Annihilation is an incredibly massive cosmic war. I like how Andy said his death "made an actual statement about the human condition and about heroism." It made the war a 'war.' Am i not right in saying he was perhaps the first Earthling casualty? That's like...whoa. It's really hitting home now. Like this could really take out Earth. War does not look favourably on hero, nor villain. Noone is exempt from Death's ineffable touch.
That's what makes war so unfair.
That's what makes Quasar's death unfair.


Damn it looked painful though :P
oh, and Cammi? Yeah, she gets the bands.

[aniscape]

Wendell Wendell Wendell...may you rest in pieces.

Personally, as much as i love Quasar, i think that this was a good move.

Annihilation is an incredibly massive cosmic war. I like how Andy said his death "made an actual statement about the human condition and about heroism." It made the war a 'war.' Am i not right in saying he was perhaps the first Earthling casualty? That's like...whoa. It's really hitting home now. Like this could really take out Earth. War does not look favourably on hero, nor villain. Noone is exempt from Death's ineffable touch.
That's what makes war so unfair.
That's what makes Quasar's death unfair.


Damn it looked painful though :P
oh, and Cammi? Yeah, she gets the bands.

I agree with what your saying about war... i really do. but this is comic book war. I don'r read comic books for realism. I rread them to tkae me out of the war ridden mess that real life dishes at you. A reprieve, a time out, and the closer the books get to real world the more it takes me away from the books. I am intrigued by Civil War but it is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. Super Hereos previal. That's my take.

[Arilou]

I agree with what your saying about war... i really do. but this is comic book war. I don'r read comic books for realism. I rread them to tkae me out of the war ridden mess that real life dishes at you. A reprieve, a time out, and the closer the books get to real world the more it takes me away from the books. I am intrigued by Civil War but it is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. Super Hereos previal. That's my take.

Naw. That's selling the medium too short of it's potential, IMHO.

[Elegance Liberty]

I agree with what your saying about war... i really do. but this is comic book war. I don'r read comic books for realism. I rread them to tkae me out of the war ridden mess that real life dishes at you. A reprieve, a time out, and the closer the books get to real world the more it takes me away from the books. I am intrigued by Civil War but it is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. Super Hereos previal. That's my take.

Whole heartedly agreed. As much as I want to get into Civil War, it hits way too close to home for me and I try to avoid politics in my comics as much as I can. Hence why I got into 'Annihilation' instead: it's good ol' fashioned sci-fi epic-y goodness. (Well, until someone dies. Then it's good ol' fashioned sci-fi epic-y stuff)

And to keep this on topic, Andy. Has Hasbro (the new company making all Marvel action figure product) approached you guys for any cosmic characters in future waves of 'Marvel Legends'? I know we're getting a Build-a-figure of Annihilus (classic Annihilus, it looks like) in the first Hasbro*ML wave, but it'd be cool to see some 'Annihilation' styled figures of Super Skrull or Nova and the like.

[Sean Walsh]

And for the record, I don't blame you ... but I really hate Annihilus now.

Actually, shouldn't you blame Andy for that? (Blame in a good way - "credit" I guess would be more accurate)

And I hate him too. Can't wait to see Annihilus get what's coming to him......which would be sweet sweet death, I hope.



See? I AM fine with it. What anger I do have is directed toward a fictional character! :p

[Silver Nimbus]

I agree with what your saying about war... i really do. but this is comic book war. I don'r read comic books for realism. I rread them to tkae me out of the war ridden mess that real life dishes at you. A reprieve, a time out, and the closer the books get to real world the more it takes me away from the books. I am intrigued by Civil War but it is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. Super Hereos previal. That's my take.

Yup, that's the whole point of Quasar, the title and the character.

In 1989, flying in the face of Dark Knight, Darkstalkers, Darkhawk, Dark Pheonix, Darkhold, Punisher, Wolverine, etc. and the rest of the coarsening of the superhero genre, one quirky book came forward with a positive portrayal of what humanity was capable of. It starred a purely human hero, with a strong moral system and realistic, almost crippling doubts at time trying to do a job way above his paygrade at the outset. It celebrated geekiness in a way wholly unlike the other books of the time - for cripe's sake it even started out giving science lessons on the final pages.

And for it's more mature readers, it connected deeply with the unparalled genius for the canon as a whole embodied by Mark Gruenwald. The more obscure a character or villain, the better. They'd appear, and you could remember their previous appearances 10 or 20 years earlier. Gru was a genius in realizing he didn't need to recreate the wheel every time, he could use the parts cast off in previous storytelling iterations in brilliant ways to tell important stories linking the whole tapestry of Marveldom together.

Wendell was a proxy for both the readers and for Gru, to show his love for the whole Marvel Universe, and to show his vision and hopes and desires for his readers, for them to grow and thrive and challenge adversity and injustice whereever they went, no matter how difficult the situation. It may not have been the most "mature" title on the block, but in many ways it was the purest superhero storytelling of its era.

Then we lost Gru, and in the snuffing out of one of Marvel's leading lights, the way to use Quasar was lost. That unique talent, that ability to synthesize and distill and project was gone, never to return. And Quasar languished. A property poorly used and often misunderstood, if not reviled by those unwilling to appreciate the concept in their era of jaded, violent, and amoral super beings. In it's place came titles that were the antithesis, like the Authority, and the comic market shrank leaving mostly only those with a taste for darker subject matter.

Many of us are reacting strongly to Quasar's apparent death, or Andy's hinted at massive changes, because we don't want to lose that last precious link to the brighter era of an integrated universe of before, where the characters were more important than the creators. I'm strongly suspecting that at the conclusion of Annihilation, I may be leaving Marvel as a whole, depending on the outcome, which is why I'm railing so passionately at what Dylan Thomas would call the dying of the light.

Comics as a whole have lost touch with the younger audience, with the wonderment of the four color firmament and the epic clash of good and evil. Part of this is following the trends of their aging audience, but it's a self fulfilling prophecy - write older, and eventually only the older audience cares. I don't want to accept the loss of Quasar and what he represents as part of the aging of the audience. I'd rather see, if that's what it takes, a new Quasar Marvel Adventures title for the kids, so that at least some element of Gru's legacy persists.

If Joe Q. wants to go back on the newstands, get back the kids, expand the reader-base so that in another twenty years the core demographic isn't lonely 50 year olds, it doesn't behoove Marvel to kill off the properties that tie back to the kids. And I don't see this sort of thing being done to any of the other properties that lasted 60 issues - they seem hellbent on bringing them back instead. Why is the life's work of one of Marvel's most dedicated and loyal employees being singled out for such ignominy?

[PastePotPete]

You guys are joking right?
I mean, this is Quasar for crying out loud.

He's a Green Lantern rip-off that could never hold his own title.

[Silver Nimbus]

You guys are joking right?
I mean, this is Quasar for crying out loud.

He's a Green Lantern rip-off that could never hold his own title.

If a 60 issue solo run isn't holding your own title, then there's not many solo titles, are there?

[Cowlander]

Yup, that's the whole point of Quasar, the title and the character.

In 1989, flying in the face of Dark Knight, Darkstalkers, Darkhawk, Dark Pheonix, Darkhold, Punisher, Wolverine, etc. and the rest of the coarsening of the superhero genre, one quirky book came forward with a positive portrayal of what humanity was capable of.....


man that whole post was the truth. Well said.

[Hellpop]

You know what, I just reread my Quasars a month or so ago...

Quasar was a minor but important part of the Marvel Universe, and killing him is very shortsighted. What's most dissapointing about this is that EVERYONE seemed to see it coming, the general rule of thumb being, "they wouldn't be using him if they weren't going to kill him." This is one of the more frustrating elements of the Quesada era-- change for the sake of change, characters killed for no reason but to have someone die. Just like Hawkeye.

[protege]

Hello all! I appreciate the concern but I am doing fine :)

I made a promide to Andy that I would keep the faith and keep an open mind so I will do that. Just remember Andy that just because a charatcer isn't popular doesn't mean he is expandable. I have an issue with any hero dying but that's for another thread. This is a comic book and heroes should prevail no matter what!

Anywho... If this does happen to be Quasar's last appearnece in Nova 4 I do have a few qualms. First off this gives the impression that nice guys finish last and if anything Quasar was known for being the kind Protector of the Universe. That is not something I wish to tell my kids when they ask me "Hey dad so what happened to your favorite superhero Quasar?" That last image of Quasar is not the lasting impression I want to see of my comic hero, and I have been reading the Nova books to my 4 year old and can't bring myself to show him Quasar's death scene :(

And of course as others have mentioned I could see quite a few ways he could have gotten out of that particular perdicament but maybe some explanation will be brought to this.

One of the things that is in the back of my head is Thanos. He once tried to use the "Blue Marvel (The revived Marvel Boy from the 50's which Thanos resurrected when he had the Infinity Gauntlet)" to be his Protecter of the Universe in the Quasar series so it wouldn't suprise me if the thing he asked Annihilus for was Quasar and or the Quantum bands (since the request was placed well after Quasar was absorbed into Annihilus Joy Toy around his neck, And Thanos would most likely be able to feel that or since he and Mistress death are close could ask for Quasar's Soul to be returned). You said big changes Andy and that would be pretty impressivly Big if Quasar became Thanos's Avatar (at least during Annihilation) I am sure Thanos is aware of Drax and he would want to manipulate Quasar to stand between Him and Drax. Just a thought. Can you shed any light on this Andy?

So that's my piece... keeping the faith!
I'm sorry- did you mean "Expandable", or "EXPENDABLE?"

[Mysterio's Helmet]

You guys are joking right?
I mean, this is Quasar for crying out loud.

He's a Green Lantern rip-off that could never hold his own title.

Look at your self-title. You am wrong.;)

Granted the Starblast story was just horrid but the rest......pure gold. And you won't ever see that type of story told ever again. Gruenwald isn't coming back. You can only have a different take as a writer. I like what Abnett and Lanning did with him...following him through with the belief that his hero, Cap America would exude, and the convictions that Wendell personally has.

It was just so short.......whereas if he was around it could have led somewhere else. Just like Nova or *fill in the blank*. I know, Would, could, should....

I swear if I was at Comic Con I'd be takin Silver Nimbus' posts and my own beliefs and let Joe know exactly how Quasar fans (at least the ones who can be heard via these message boards) feel.

[Elegance Liberty]

Totally.

I mean, I don't really have an opinion about Joe Q, but it does bother me that he seems hellbent on having writers kill off/destroy characters or elements in the Marvel U he's not fond of. (The Spider-Marriage, anyone?) IMO, It's bereft of any sort of meaning or purpose. (Not that I'm saying Joe Q. is responsible for Quasar's death, but I do recall reading somewhere that Wendell wasn't one of his favorites)

Luckily we've got people like Andy who try and have these sorta deaths mean something.

But it still sucks that they brought back Quasar after so long, only to kill him off 3 issues later. I dunno, that's like having a long lost friend come back, only to have them leave no sooner than they arrived with little-to-no fanfare. (Granted I only found out about Quasar though 'Annihilation', but I'm using that comparison for the long-term fans around here)

Maybe they'll bring him back... maybe they won't. I keep telling myself "this is Marvel*death. In most cases, it's not permanent". I mean for goodness sake, we've got Jean Grey dying and coming back every 3-4 years, why wouldn't Quasar be any different?

At least... I hope Quasar comes back. I wanna write for Marvel someday (go ahead and laugh), and I've got some stories I've plotted that involve Quasar, 'cause I really like his character and I want to give him more of a 'chance', so to speak. Crazy, yeah, but that's a small footnote I wanted to add. ^^;

[protege]

Nah, give him a real dollar. Annihilus might eat that Quantum dollar, he's been looking way too hungry lately. But the sentiment is right.

Replacement? We don't need no stinkin' replacement. We want the real deal.
I'm not sure we need a repalcement either, if Captain Marvel is coming back.

[aniscape]

I'm sorry- did you mean "Expandable", or "EXPENDABLE?"


Yeah... guess i need to be more careful with my speeling ;)

[JonnyFreeze]

thanks for the topic name you just ruined the surprise for me

:mad:

[Expletive Deleted]

thanks for the topic name you just ruined the surprise for meSorry about that. I'll tone it down.

[Expletive Deleted]

Wait, how did Quesada come into this?

He made a comment in one of his columns about Quasar being replaceable and not being worth a relaunch, but he also said he wasn't a big cosmic guy and still greenlit "Annihilation." He's been pretty hands-off about the whole thing, as far as I can tell.

Unless someone in the know says otherwise, I'm assuming this decision was made on the DnA or Andy level.

[Mysterio's Helmet]

Also I think Silver has a very valid important point.

Do you think Quasar still wouldn't sell if the title had Bendis and Jim Lee attached to it???

Nowadays it is about the writer moreso than the characters. You could throw Johns, Bendis, Loeb, Lee etc... on Machine Man or a Valkyrie title and the thing would sell out the doors.

So it really doesn't make it the characters that are lame, the attached talent makes a book. So whether a character is "popular enough" has no bearing anymore.

Just saying.......... it's rare that other authors break through and create a caring base about a character nowadays.

[aniscape]

You guys are joking right?
I mean, this is Quasar for crying out loud.

He's a Green Lantern rip-off that could never hold his own title.

See the funny thing is that's what I thought when I first saw the Quasar books on the stand. Which actually got me to buy them cause I am a big Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) fan (thank the 70's Justice League series for that).

But then I bought the books and read them. And everything changed. Look at Silver Nimbus' post. Quasar/Wendell is my Comic book hero and when someone makes a statement like yours it is very close minded.

Why must the hero I look up to be "Spider-man" or Superman" and any other's that are mainstream.

It may be "just Quasar" or "green lantern rip-off" to most people out there but to some of us it is more then that. To some of us he is our "superman" our mainstream hero.

I bet if Marvel or DC decided to kill off any of their Mainstreamers people wouldn't be saying "oh it's just superman"

You have to understand that the world is very unique and not everyone will like all the same things. But that doesn't mean just becuase I don't see the reasoning behind the popularity of oh say Deadpool doesn't mean they can kill him off (For good).

A creator needs to understand that the reason certain people take to certain characters is that to those poeple there is something special. And when you take that away it's just a little bit more of magic taken away from this world which is surely lacking. I gow older everyday but when I read a book, comic book, watch a movie, play a videogame it's to put some of that magic back into a world that has grown very cold.

Sometimes the individual is more important then the mass. Even if it's just one person that likes Quasar or whomever it think that should be enough to provide a little of that magic every once in a while.

The more I write the more sad I feel. I hope this makes sense to some of you.

Back to work :)

[Mysterio's Helmet]

Wait, how did Quesada come into this?

He made a comment in one of his columns about Quasar being replaceable and not being worth a relaunch, but he also said he wasn't a big cosmic guy and still greenlit "Annihilation." He's been pretty hands-off about the whole thing, as far as I can tell.

Unless someone in the know says otherwise, I'm assuming this decision was made on the DnA or Andy level.

I'm sure that's what happened too. If it's Marvel, it always has to deal with Quesada! ;)

[Satyrquaze]

I picked up Annihilation: Nova #4 completely convinced that Super-Skrull's death in his own book counted as the second hero's death in the series...

A few minutes later I was stareing at the page in which Annihilus consumes(?) Quasar. I sat there like that for several minutes and all I could think was 'Andy lied, that bastard lied.' (no offense, Andy), and admittedly I was pissed.

I remember picking up Quasar #1 back in '89 and liked what I read; he grew on me the more I read of his series.

His death in Nova took me completely by surprise, I found myself going back through the book and looking closly at his characterization and taking a certain amount of pride in how far he's come since his return from Uranus back in issue #2.

So, my point is... (and I know I'm beating a dead horse.) is is possible just once to have a cosmic level epic in marvel and not have Quasar (Protector of the friggen Universe) die horribly??

That said: It was a remarkable death scene, Quaze showed genuine heroism, and bravery, though it reminded me a bit of how Cyclops died in X3. I will follow Annihilation through to the bitter end just to see Annhilus get stomped and Quasar's probable return (and I mean Wendell Elvis Vaughn, and not anyone else!!!).

[drwho]

Noooooooo, not another Quasar thread. sheesh!!!

[JonnyFreeze]

Sorry about that. I'll tone it down.

i wasnt realy annoyed ex. i mean id prefer to have not known but meh its the peril of comic book message boards i guess.

[Silver Nimbus]

Noooooooo, not another Quasar thread. sheesh!!!

Quasar threads! Every day! Without end! (Within Board Moderation Policies!)

Until we get Wendell back.

[Cowlander]

I'm sure that's what happened too. If it's Marvel, it always has to deal with Quesada! ;)
generally I'm in complete agreement with the sarcasm.

BUt in this case JQ did say he wasnt a fan of the char/concept and that if someone else was in the bands or he was giving an edge he would like it. So people thinking that he had a hand in this particular death is understandable.

I agree with Ex and think its most likely on a more local DnA + Editor level than anything JQ said from on high.

[Mysterio's Helmet]

generally I'm in complete agreement with the sarcasm.

BUt in this case JQ did say he wasnt a fan of the char/concept and that if someone else was in the bands or he was giving an edge he would like it. So people thinking that he had a hand in this particular death is understandable.

I agree with Ex and think its most likely on a more local DnA + Editor level than anything JQ said from on high.


Don't know if what I posted read what I wanted it to.

I think Quesada maybe said ok to it in passing fashion but I think the story itself was led by DnA plus Andy.

However, something you posted does bring up a question: If a "new" Quasar is supposed to have an "edge" to him, can that "edgier" character control the Quantum Bands???

I'd think not. If you force it in and ignore that fact, sure, but I don't think you should. At any rate, something to ponder.

[Downtown]

Don't know if what I posted read what I wanted it to.

I think Quesada maybe said ok to it in passing fashion but I think the story itself was led by DnA plus Andy.

However, something you posted does bring up a question: If a "new" Quasar is supposed to have an "edge" to him, can that "edgier" character control the Quantum Bands???

I'd think not. If you force it in and ignore that fact, sure, but I don't think you should. At any rate, something to ponder.


Mebbe it's just me, but if my body was disintegrated and turned into energy to add power to an insect's amulet, that may make me kindof edgy.

At some point, Andy said Quasar fans were in for a hell of a ride, i don't think the rides over by far.

[aniscape]

Mebbe it's just me, but if my body was disintegrated and turned into energy to add power to an insect's amulet, that may make me kindof edgy.

At some point, Andy said Quasar fans were in for a hell of a ride, i don't think the rides over by far.


I am pretty sure you are right. It's the chance that this might actually be his last appearance is what is bugging most of us.

I might be the nicest person in the world but after someone has killed me six times i guess I would a little edgy too ;)

[IMJ]

Noooooooo, not another Quasar thread. sheesh!!!


THANK YOU for helping us make the point. Even the board guys recognize the desire to have this character around, if only through their bleak acknowledgment that the support IS out there.

[brainfloat]

Well, the best way I found to cope with this ... I'll call it "a situation of Quasar's close brush with death":D , is by reading Quasar 19-25. This isn't the first time he's been disentagrated.

I scanned this panel from Quasar 22 just to remind everyone of the nightmarish things Quasar has survived.

[aniscape]

Well, the best way I found to cope with this ... I'll call it "a situation of Quasar's close brush with death":D , is by reading Quasar 19-25. This isn't the first time he's been disentagrated.

I scanned this panel from Quasar 22 just to remind everyone of the nightmarish things Quasar has survived.

Call me crazy but I really like that Kid Reaper...even though he's killed Quasar twice :eek:

With as many times as Quasar has died i think it could work to have his own Death avatar beside him on a regular basis. I guess it's just me.

Kid Reaper love'm to death :D

[aniscape]

to add to Brainfloat's post. Tolerance of pain... yeah he's got some tolarence:

http://quantumzone.org/issues/quasar/covers/quasar22.gif

[Elegance Liberty]

Noooooooo, not another Quasar thread. sheesh!!!

Awww c'mon, the guy's got devoted fans, which I think is really cute and endearing. What's so wrong about that? D=

[astronato]

I remember him from the Project Pegasus story back in the day but I was never what you'd call a big Quasar fan before this book. I am now and if we are taking votes, I'd buy a Quasar ongoing book but only if it's Wendell. Leave that legacy stuff to DC. If he's not coming back then I'd prefer the Quasar name not come back. Maybe Marvel could give the power bands to Nova and really amp up his power level.

In a fictional superhero universe where people fly and can visit heaven and hell it's not so hard to suspend your disbelief for a resurrection. In comic books people die and get better. I would not mind at all if Quasar (and Super Skrull) got better by way of comic book logic and pseudo science. It happens.

[knight16]

Here's to Quasar/Wendall return. I for one will miss a hero who always had the optimism towards life.

But his death and that of Genis/Photon/Captain Marvel recently in THUNDERBOLTS plus some rumors has left me wondering. Weren't the bands of Quasar those originally given to the first Captain Marvel by EON when he assumed the mantle of Protector of the Universe?

Does this herald a return of the knee born Captain Marvel?

[aniscape]

Here's to Quasar/Wendall return. I for one will miss a hero who always had the optimism towards life.

But his death and that of Genis/Photon/Captain Marvel recently in THUNDERBOLTS plus some rumors has left me wondering. Weren't the bands of Quasar those originally given to the first Captain Marvel by EON when he assumed the mantle of Protector of the Universe?

Does this herald a return of the knee born Captain Marvel?

Captain marvel was supposed to get the Quantum Bands (the ones Quasar wears) When Eon made Mar-vell Protector of the universe but he got the Nega Bands instead since the Quantum Bands were at one point lost to Eon and given to Marvel boy from the 1950's.

[Raker Q.]

Finally got the last parts of Nova and Super-skrull.

To all the Quasar fans i'm going to say nah-nah. Why? Just to be a bastard.

Nah-nah.:p

And I do have a question for ya Andy. Will we see more of Praxagora in Annihilation?
*grabs pitchfork* :evilangry
ok Quasar fans....GET HIM!

[Raker Q.]

hello all...I'm a fellow Quasar fan and I've been lurking here for awile...I've read many of your posts and you inspired me to join you all.....youve all done well to defend Gruenwalds greatest work....he would be proud....just curious as to how many of us are here....so join up and sound off!

[aniscape]

Poster by the name of "Raker Q" inspired this thread :)

I'll make it short and sweet:

You a Quasar/Wendell fan!

Want to see his return ASAP!

Then just post here and we can at least Chat with each other and not bug other posters with too many Quasar Threads!

One more thing... as a sign of how much we want Wendell back if you want just until his return, switch your Title to "Save Quasar" or "Save Wendell" Or anything related to show your support!

Thank You!

[wallred]

This looks like the place to be for Quasar fans.
Haven't read Annihilation yet (need to pick up Nova #4 and Ronan #4...I'm wanting to read them all at once), but I have heard what happens. Kind of depressing, but some good has come out of it. It finally got me off my keister, and I updated the Quantum Zone (http://www.quantumzone.org/). I think I caught everything in the last few years and added it to Quasar's log, but let me know if I missed anything. Also, I'm working on a mega-update to the original art section. Anyway, I've been wanting a couple of Quasar trades that collects from #13 up through #40. 14 issues per trade...nice and fat. Or, we could just get Quasar volumes 1-5 which collect 12-issue chunks of the series.
_______________

Will

Will Allred <wallred@quantumzone.org>
http://www.quantumzone.org/ http://www.comics.org/

[IMJ]

-sheesh- Will, it's been a while dude. I was talkin' about you and your site in a post in the recent past here on these boards!

[aniscape]

This looks like the place to be for Quasar fans.
Haven't read Annihilation yet (need to pick up Nova #4 and Ronan #4...I'm wanting to read them all at once), but I have heard what happens. Kind of depressing, but some good has come out of it. It finally got me off my keister, and I updated the Quantum Zone (http://www.quantumzone.org/). I think I caught everything in the last few years and added it to Quasar's log, but let me know if I missed anything. Also, I'm working on a mega-update to the original art section. Anyway, I've been wanting a couple of Quasar trades that collects from #13 up through #40. 14 issues per trade...nice and fat. Or, we could just get Quasar volumes 1-5 which collect 12-issue chunks of the series.
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Will

Will Allred <wallred@quantumzone.org>
http://www.quantumzone.org/ http://www.comics.org/

ALL RIGHT!!! I have been going to that site for years! It is great to finally meet you!

Things are starting to Roll again! Listen if you ever need any help maintaining your site let me know. I will do what I can :)

Since this has kinda become a catch all for related Quasar happenings please post anytime you add something to the site!

It's time to rally the troops and show Marvel that we want Wendell back for good!

[wallred]

-sheesh- Will, it's been a while dude. I was talkin' about you and your site in a post in the recent past here on these boards!

It's good to be here. I typically haven't had the time to check out the forums, but for Quasar I'm making time. I'm amazed at all of the support ol' Wendell has here.
You know it's sad when you have to go to another country (and language) to get a trade of Cosmos In Collision. A Spanish fan was able to get me a copy of the trade published in Spain...but I don't read Spanish. Looks good, though.
Spanish Quasar fans shouldn't have it better than us, right?

[aniscape]

It's good to be here. I typically haven't had the time to check out the forums, but for Quasar I'm making time. I'm amazed at all of the support ol' Wendell has here.
You know it's sad when you have to go to another country (and language) to get a trade of Cosmos In Collision. A Spanish fan was able to get me a copy of the trade published in Spain...but I don't read Spanish. Looks good, though.
Spanish Quasar fans shouldn't have it better than us, right?

I totally agree. Will you be planning on scanning some of that spanish trade in your website? I would be really interested in seeing what it's like.

[Raker Q.]

This looks like the place to be for Quasar fans.
Haven't read Annihilation yet (need to pick up Nova #4 and Ronan #4...I'm wanting to read them all at once), but I have heard what happens. Kind of depressing, but some good has come out of it. It finally got me off my keister, and I updated the Quantum Zone (http://www.quantumzone.org/). I think I caught everything in the last few years and added it to Quasar's log, but let me know if I missed anything. Also, I'm working on a mega-update to the original art section. Anyway, I've been wanting a couple of Quasar trades that collects from #13 up through #40. 14 issues per trade...nice and fat. Or, we could just get Quasar volumes 1-5 which collect 12-issue chunks of the series.
_______________

Will

Will Allred <wallred@quantumzone.org>
http://www.quantumzone.org/ http://www.comics.org/
Woah!
You rule dude!...I love that site....been going there for years...I thank you for all the hard work you have put into that site....I look forward to any updates....good to see you here and among us (the Quasar fans) :D

[Raker Q.]

It's time to rally the troops and show Marvel that we want Wendell back for good!
Raker here and reporting for duty sir! :)

It's good to be here. I typically haven't had the time to check out the forums, but for Quasar I'm making time. I'm amazed at all of the support ol' Wendell has here.
You know it's sad when you have to go to another country (and language) to get a trade of Cosmos In Collision. A Spanish fan was able to get me a copy of the trade published in Spain...but I don't read Spanish. Looks good, though.
Spanish Quasar fans shouldn't have it better than us, right?
ha....a Spanish trade...thats funny...I've never heard of that.

I totally agree. Will you be planning on scanning some of that spanish trade in your website? I would be really interested in seeing what it's like.
yeah...I would love to see them as well.

[IMJ]

Oh man, you wouldn't belive the foriegn editions that Marvel has reprinted or released.
If I tried to encompass those into my collection, that'd be the end of me.

[wallred]

I totally agree. Will you be planning on scanning some of that spanish trade in your website? I would be really interested in seeing what it's like.
That's a great idea. Give me a few days to locate it, and I'll try to get some scans of it.

[wallred]

Woah!
You rule dude!...I love that site....been going there for years...I thank you for all the hard work you have put into that site....I look forward to any updates....good to see you here and among us (the Quasar fans) :D
Glad you like the Quantum Zone. It's hard to believe that it's been around for 10 years now. What's really surprising is the sheer number of Quasar fans here...nice place.

[Sean Walsh]

This looks like the place to be for Quasar fans.
Haven't read Annihilation yet (need to pick up Nova #4 and Ronan #4...I'm wanting to read them all at once), but I have heard what happens. Kind of depressing, but some good has come out of it. It finally got me off my keister, and I updated the Quantum Zone (http://www.quantumzone.org/). I think I caught everything in the last few years and added it to Quasar's log, but let me know if I missed anything. Also, I'm working on a mega-update to the original art section. Anyway, I've been wanting a couple of Quasar trades that collects from #13 up through #40. 14 issues per trade...nice and fat. Or, we could just get Quasar volumes 1-5 which collect 12-issue chunks of the series.

Wow. When he died, one of the first things I thought was "Man, I wonder what the Quantum Zone site will have to say about this."

Seriously - thanks for showing up and updating the site, man. :)

[Elegance Liberty]

What's really surprising is the sheer number of Quasar fans here...nice place.

I'm a new fan thanks to 'Annihilation'... among other things, anyways.

Even I'm surprised at all the fans he has here. To be honest, I didn't know he even exsisted until I got into 'Annihilation'. (Then again, I only recently decided to really *get* into comics)

Love your site, btw. It's been helpful for me as a total Quasar*newbie. ^^;

[BooCoo]

If I were redoing Quasar, I would just eliminate the whole 'band' concept. It's dated and outlived its usefulness. There's nothing symbolic about them. No one recognizes him as protector because of the gaudy coffee cans. Unfortunately it was reduced to "Dick Tracy Wrist Watch" gimmickry, where Quasar was constantly (and pointlessly) 'talking' into them, or explaining everything they did. He's the avatar of infinity. He possesses some (still) starbrand. All I hear about is the bands, the bands, the bands. If he's all that, why is it just a simple matter of handing over trinkets and giving the title to someone else? As much as I like the character this is why I think he was set up to fail eventually. Enemies looked at him like a lump of flesh inside weapons they wanted. (throughout the whole series, they were forever cutting off his hands or whatever just to get them) Even allies made light of him. Kismet put him down saying 'he had no real ability, it was all in his weapons'. But because (once again) he did something PASSIVE such as protecting the pod she was impressed, and sought him as a mate. Mighty quick turnaround, I'd say. His 'resourcefulness' was a sudden turn on to her.

There's been much discussion about his latest 'death' and how he couldn't possibly be absorbed by the cosmic rod. The thinking is that it doesn't affect organic matter.

But think, people. Who says Quasar is all organic anymore? He HAS been an energy being before. True Quasophiles that know the history are aware of this. He isn't just a function of those stupid trinkets.

I like the new costume. Clean, sleeker lines without looking at the ugly, clunky, coffee cans. Some artists drew the damn things so big they covered his forearms like gaudy mirrors. It also looks 'cosmic' enough without making him look like a tinsel tree.

[Mr. Bowflex]

Glad you like the Quantum Zone. It's hard to believe that it's been around for 10 years now. What's really surprising is the sheer number of Quasar fans here...nice place.

New poster here.

I am surprised about all the Q fans here.

WILL: Just wanted to say that i've been visiting the quantum zone site since way back. If I remember correctly, it used to be on the old U of Arkansas servers??

Anyways- it sure is nice to see all the fans here. And I gotta say, there is a general consensus in other boards of sadness/shock of seeing old Q pass. . .

[phantom1592]

If I were redoing Quasar, I would just eliminate the whole 'band' concept. It's dated and outlived its usefulness. There's nothing symbolic about them. No one recognizes him as protector because of the gaudy coffee cans. Unfortunately it was reduced to "Dick Tracy Wrist Watch" gimmickry, where Quasar was constantly (and pointlessly) 'talking' into them, or explaining everything they did. He's the avatar of infinity. He possesses some (still) starbrand. All I hear about is the bands, the bands, the bands. If he's all that, why is it just a simple matter of handing over trinkets and giving the title to someone else? As much as I like the character this is why I think he was set up to fail eventually. Enemies looked at him like a lump of flesh inside weapons they wanted. (throughout the whole series, they were forever cutting off his hands or whatever just to get them) Even allies made light of him. Kismet put him down saying 'he had no real ability, it was all in his weapons'. But because (once again) he did something PASSIVE such as protecting the pod she was impressed, and sought him as a mate. Mighty quick turnaround, I'd say. His 'resourcefulness' was a sudden turn on to her.

There's been much discussion about his latest 'death' and how he couldn't possibly be absorbed by the cosmic rod. The thinking is that it doesn't affect organic matter.

But think, people. Who says Quasar is all organic anymore? He HAS been an energy being before. True Quasophiles that know the history are aware of this. He isn't just a function of those stupid trinkets.

I like the new costume. Clean, sleeker lines without looking at the ugly, clunky, coffee cans. Some artists drew the damn things so big they covered his forearms like gaudy mirrors. It also looks 'cosmic' enough without making him look like a tinsel tree.


I always liked the bands. As for it all being the weapon... the same can be said for Green Lantern. That's worked for 60 years. Whenever someone has to "update" the entire basis of the character I loose respect for both the character and the writer.

If you want an Energy being without the bands and a completely different costume..... Create one! You don't like the character, don't use the character. I see it happen a lot.

Just my opinion :)

[wallred]

What's really surprising is the sheer number of Quasar fans here...nice place.

I'm a new fan thanks to 'Annihilation'... among other things, anyways.

Even I'm surprised at all the fans he has here. To be honest, I didn't know he even exsisted until I got into 'Annihilation'. (Then again, I only recently decided to really *get* into comics)

Love your site, btw. It's been helpful for me as a total Quasar*newbie. ^^;
If it's helped one person discover the greatness that is Quasar, then it's worth it. ;)
Seriously, it's nice to know that people do look at the site. Glad it filled in some background on ol' Wendell for you.

[wallred]

New poster here.

I am surprised about all the Q fans here.

WILL: Just wanted to say that i've been visiting the quantum zone site since way back. If I remember correctly, it used to be on the old U of Arkansas servers??

Anyways- it sure is nice to see all the fans here. And I gotta say, there is a general consensus in other boards of sadness/shock of seeing old Q pass. . .
Wow! You remember it from back then. You probably remember the initial version, which I must state for the record, completely sucked. Black background...mostly text...ugh, I had no idea what I was doing back then. That's not to say I really have much of an idea about what I'm doing now, but...
Maybe I'm just being insanely optimistic, but I don't think he's gone for good. I think, and I have no info to actually back this up...just a hunch, that we'll see Quasar again during Annihilation. Here's hoping anyway.

[BooCoo]

Just an FYI, Andy: do note that, IMHO, we're fans of Quasar because of Wendell Vaughn himself, and not necessarily of just the "Protector of the Universe / quantum bands" concept. :)


Agreed! One characteristic Wendell always shows is his high intelligence. It's one of the main reasons Infinity said she had "utter faith" in him (pretty strong statement, that).

[Raker Q.]

New Quasar topic:

If Wendell is replaced as protector of the universe...do you feel its ok for his successor to use the name "Quasar"?

my answer...
Though it would be flattering and an honor to him I still feel as though "Quasar" is the name Wendell chose and isn't specificly made for the role as protector....previous protectors weren't named "Quasar"....they had their own name....when I say I want Quasar back in the Marvel U...then I want Wendell.....not somebody new going by that name....its not like in DC when a Green Lantern dies then somebody new becomes Green Lantern....that name is specific for that role....Green Lantern is the name of the protector for his sector....Quasar isn't the name for the protector in the Marvel U....it was chosen by Wendell....well thats just my thoughts....what are yours?

[aniscape]

Hello all,

Last night I I flipped through some of Quasar's books and let me just say that I will spend the rest of this week reading through all the appearances that I have in my collection.

I really need to point something out and you all can go back and read these books yourselves but I need to say that Quasar/Wendell is not dead. He cannot be dead and I will explain why.

Besides the fact that Andy said that there would be "Big Changes" and Wendell will go through "Twists and Turns" there is the printed word.

Andy has stated that he is not a fan of retcon's and he hopes someone in the future doesn't come by and retcon all of annihilation and everything he has worked so hard to do becomes meaningless.

In the Cosmos in Collision Storyline in the Quasar books 18-25 Mark Greunwald made sure that Wendell would live on even after himself.

At the end of Cosmos in Collision Infinity, Eternity, Oblivion and Death met to redefine there Cosmic agreement's of sorts. The 4 points to our Universal Compass. In the end as part of their agreement Oblivion and Death kept Eon and Mealstrom for themselves for what purpose who knows. And Wendell became Infinity’s and Makkari became Eternity's. What exactly does this mean I don't know but the fact that Wendell and Makkari are bound to basically the universe itself I can't imagine a more powerful bond in the Marvel Universe. As Infinity explained this to Wendell she stated that Wendell is her "Once and Future Avatar"

There are a lot of things that can be interpreted by this but to be, in my understanding, the physical manifestation of Infinity in the universe is not something to be taken lightly.

Through the years Quasar has just been written so underwhelming that I had almost forgotten about the above statements.

About the Quantum Bands: I believe they were created to give the Protector of the Universe a conduit to the Quantum Zone (Infinity herself) a means to tap her power without having just any person or thing with half an intellect the ability to do so. I also believe that throughout the Quantum Bands existence they were searching for the one true soul that would be Infinity’s counterpart in the physical realm. Which leads me to believe that they have accomplished this with Wendell. They are no longer necessary. Having them in existence will just cause more trouble than their worth to Infinity and the Universe as we are seeing now that Annihilus has them.

Having Wendell come back as Infinity’s Avatar and true master of the Quantum Realm is what needs to be done. Maybe they can have one Jewel or so to properly conduct the Quantum powers without harming his physical form (he is human after all) But it doesn’t need to be the Bands. It could be inside him it could be anything but no more going after Quasar for the bands. If he is truly killed in the future than the power bestowed him would just return to Infinity. But I believe it would have to be something so drastic that it impacts the entirety of the universe where Infinity would be so weakened that she could not hold on to Wendell’s spirit and he would die.

But until that happens he is Mark’s last gift to Marvel of not having a truly remarkable and powerful character but one that also carries the best qualities of what it means to be human for the universe to see.

I know that this is a long post but I just needed to get this out.

Andy, please consider this and a wealth of other wonderful ideas that have been posted about Wendell. We care deeply for him and to us Wendell fans their truly is no hero that is his equal ;)

Good day!

[Raker Q.]

......wow..............um...wow....I'm at a loss for words. Nothing I can say can top that.....that was truly an inspiring post.....Mark would be proud and I agree with what you say......now lets get Andy to come in here! :)


man I almost forgot about some of the stuff you mentioned....I wish I could go back and read all my issues....I haven't read my quasar issues since they were released....they are stuck in my storage somewhere and its too hot to go find them :( ...Annihilation had peaked my interest in them and I'm dieing to re-read them.....continue to update us anything more you might find that could help our cause.....like always... I enjoy your posts

[aniscape]

......wow..............um...wow....I'm at a loss for words. Nothing I can say can top that.....that was truly an inspiring post.....Mark would be proud and I agree with what you say......now lets get Andy to come in here! :)


man I almost forgot about some of the stuff you mentioned....I wish I could go back and read all my issues....I haven't read my quasar issues since they were released....they are stuck in my storage somewhere and its too hot to go find them :( ...Annihilation had peaked my interest in them and I'm dieing to re-read them.....continue to update us anything more you might find that could help our cause.....like always... I enjoy your posts

Thanks Raker Q.!

Here is a little something to make you go hmmmm...






Here is a render that someone did back in 2004: ohh and this is the link to where I found it linky (http://www.collectortimes.com/2004_02/License.html)


http://www.collectortimes.com/2004_02/quasar-new.jpg

And here is the picture of Quasar's new Costume:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/expletivedeleted/quasar.jpg

Guess it's was just the natural progression of the costume... hmmmm....

[Mr. Bowflex]

Hey Quasar fans (new and old) check out the official Ask Andy about Annihilation thread.

Here's the latest:

By a show of hands...

Who wants a Quasar/Wendell series?

And...let me know if you're a NEW Quasar fan!

Let him know what you think!

[K Von Doom]

It would have been nice if they did something with the awesome trio of Quasar, Makkari and Kismet. For people who theoretically should be hanging out a lot, they never worked together much as a team. Even though it had the makings of an awesome oddball trio - protector of the universe, eternal and someone created to be the perfect woman (Adam Warlock's partner).

[BooCoo]

Told mistress death to her face to stay away from his mother (who was sick at the time). Even pointed a finger at her. She didn't respond initially, except to raise her hand.

Of course, common sense kicked in and he realized his actions weren't making sense. He apologized and left the dimension of manifestations.

On another positive note, he popped a watcher once.

Who says the Qster doesn't have balls? :D

[aniscape]

Ok ... I just about bust a gut laughing... I was trying to find some extra content on Quasar and looked at his card (look below) When you look at the Arch nemesis part of the back of the card it says that Quasar doesn't have one as "he is Quiet and Soft Spoken"

Man... it's too bad Spider-man never figured out the secret of not having an Arch Nemesis :D


http://www.quantumzone.org/gallery/trading-cards/marvel_universe_1-15.jpg

[Expletive Deleted]

In the NOVA CORPS one-shot, he's described as thusly:

"Vaughn seldom clashed with authorities, being a well-respected Protector of the Universe and a markedly diplomatic and reasonable individual, relatively unique among cosmic adventurers and Terran superhumans in that regard."

[BooCoo]

Those entries are completely...absurd :(

Interesting, seeing his size in the bio. Quazar was even drawn shrimplike in the series. Sometimes I thought he didn't weigh more than 150. The later artists drew him larger (of course the art sucked by then, but hey, you can't have everything).

And people wonder why he came across as lame for a cosmic protector?

[BooCoo]

It would have been nice if they did something with the awesome trio of Quasar, Makkari and Kismet. For people who theoretically should be hanging out a lot, they never worked together much as a team. Even though it had the makings of an awesome oddball trio - protector of the universe, eternal and someone created to be the perfect woman (Adam Warlock's partner).


I thought they made a cute team, too. At some points I thought Kismet was about to put the moves on Quaze.

[BooCoo]

Thanks Raker Q.!

Here is a little something to make you go hmmmm...






Here is a render that someone did back in 2004: ohh and this is the link to where I found it linky (http://www.collectortimes.com/2004_02/License.html)


http://www.collectortimes.com/2004_02/quasar-new.jpg

And here is the picture of Quasar's new Costume:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/expletivedeleted/quasar.jpg


Guess it's was just the natural progression of the costume... hmmmm....


Interesting, in the new costume. I don't remember Quazar's eyes ever glowing like that. Hmmm...

[BooCoo]

Hello all,

Last night I I flipped through some of Quasar's books and let me just say that I will spend the rest of this week reading through all the appearances that I have in my collection.

I really need to point something out and you all can go back and read these books yourselves but I need to say that Quasar/Wendell is not dead. He cannot be dead and I will explain why.

Besides the fact that Andy said that there would be "Big Changes" and Wendell will go through "Twists and Turns" there is the printed word.

Andy has stated that he is not a fan of retcon's and he hopes someone in the future doesn't come by and retcon all of annihilation and everything he has worked so hard to do becomes meaningless.

In the Cosmos in Collision Storyline in the Quasar books 18-25 Mark Greunwald made sure that Wendell would live on even after himself.

At the end of Cosmos in Collision Infinity, Eternity, Oblivion and Death met to redefine there Cosmic agreement's of sorts. The 4 points to our Universal Compass. In the end as part of their agreement Oblivion and Death kept Eon and Mealstrom for themselves for what purpose who knows. And Wendell became Infinity’s and Makkari became Eternity's. What exactly does this mean I don't know but the fact that Wendell and Makkari are bound to basically the universe itself I can't imagine a more powerful bond in the Marvel Universe. As Infinity explained this to Wendell she stated that Wendell is her "Once and Future Avatar"

There are a lot of things that can be interpreted by this but to be, in my understanding, the physical manifestation of Infinity in the universe is not something to be taken lightly.

Through the years Quasar has just been written so underwhelming that I had almost forgotten about the above statements.

About the Quantum Bands: I believe they were created to give the Protector of the Universe a conduit to the Quantum Zone (Infinity herself) a means to tap her power without having just any person or thing with half an intellect the ability to do so. I also believe that throughout the Quantum Bands existence they were searching for the one true soul that would be Infinity’s counterpart in the physical realm. Which leads me to believe that they have accomplished this with Wendell. They are no longer necessary. Having them in existence will just cause more trouble than their worth to Infinity and the Universe as we are seeing now that Annihilus has them.

Having Wendell come back as Infinity’s Avatar and true master of the Quantum Realm is what needs to be done. Maybe they can have one Jewel or so to properly conduct the Quantum powers without harming his physical form (he is human after all) But it doesn’t need to be the Bands. It could be inside him it could be anything but no more going after Quasar for the bands. If he is truly killed in the future than the power bestowed him would just return to Infinity. But I believe it would have to be something so drastic that it impacts the entirety of the universe where Infinity would be so weakened that she could not hold on to Wendell’s spirit and he would die.

But until that happens he is Mark’s last gift to Marvel of not having a truly remarkable and powerful character but one that also carries the best qualities of what it means to be human for the universe to see.

I know that this is a long post but I just needed to get this out.

Andy, please consider this and a wealth of other wonderful ideas that have been posted about Wendell. We care deeply for him and to us Wendell fans their truly is no hero that is his equal ;)

Good day!


*taps foot* SOMEONE wants to write this new series!

I'll tweak your concept a bit further. First of all, the Starbrand supposedly did something to Wendell, making him effectively immortal (he doesn't know it yet). Also, remember that 'cosmic awareness' face effect? Well, I'd give Wendell an 'Infinity face effect' when he's accessing information. Just a thought.

*taps dances back into lurkdom*

[Elegance Liberty]

Hey all, a quick Quasar fan art... thing... here.

I've been trying to do some stuff in Photoshop, and I made this quick drawing (done at actual size of 300x300). Mostly because I was at a loss of what to draw and also because he seemed easy enough. ;]

The b/g is blah, but that's only because I don't know how to do the space-y sorta stuff. (He's standing infront of a window, btw)

Feel free to resize it for an avatar or whatever you wanna do... I myself made a 100x100 version for my Live Journal. ^^;

[wallred]

Well, I finally finished the limited series (haven't been to the shop to pick-up #1 yet, though) and thought I give my impressions.
So, here we go...

Annihilation Prologue - Interesting setup, but I thought the story was too fragmented and should have focused more on the Nova Corps. I think it would have worked better to have a Nova escorting the prisoners at the beginning. Too many new characters introduced only to die a page or two later just diluted the effect of the Annihilation Wave. Still, a nice setup. Overall Grade -- C+

Annihilation: Nova - This was my favorite simply because Quasar showed up. I thought his characterization was excellent...except in the death scene. That's where it all broke down for me. First, I don't think they portrayed him as powerful as he really is. He has been shown to be capable of creating planet-sized constructs. This isn't a huge problem as all character power levels fluctuate with different creative teams. But, his diminished power level when coupled with his rookie mistake of getting close enough to get grabbed by Annihilus...didn't make for a grand heroic death as it looks more like he died due to stupidity. He didn't even die saving anybody. Wendell has always been shown to take a very common-sense approach to his battles, and this battle just didn't feel right to me. And I know this will probably cause a debate, but the Nova force is not more powerful than the Quantum Bands. The same power that flows through the Bands kept him alive in a black hole...actually THE Black Hole in Cosmos in Collision...a little more powerful than a gravimetric pulse in my opinion. All in all, though, I enjoyed Nova. Apparently using Quasar as cannon fodder, though, lessened my enjoyment of the mini. Overall Grade -- B

Annihilation: Silver Surfer - This series just didn't grab me. The art was murky and didn't really draw me in as the Surfer seemed to spend most of the series running away. Honestly, having the Heralds defeated so easily didn't make me think the bad guys were more powerful, just that the Heralds were much, much weaker than they've been portrayed in the past. The only thing that saved this series for me was the unexpected twist of having the Surfer serve Galactus again. This has me somewhat intrigued as I'm looking forward seeing how this develops. Overall Grade -- C

Annihilation: Super Skrull - I really enjoyed this series. It really explored the character of the Super Skrull and demonstrated just how formidable someone with the combined powers of the Fantastic Four could be. The battle-hardened, veteran warrior characterization was the best portrayal of the character that I've seen. For my money this was the best of the 4 series. Overall Grade -- A-

Annihilation: Ronan - This series never came together for me as I didn't ever really come to care for the character. It just seemed a muddled mess that only peripherally involved Annihilation. Definitely my least favorite of the 4, although it was a bit of a kick to see Korath again. Overall Grade -- D.

[Dustin]

I think the third pic.

[wallred]

Well, I finally got around to scanning a few pages and the cover of the Spanish Cosmos In Collision trade that a fellow Quasar fan in Spain sent to me. I left them pretty big so that anybody who wanted to could translate. Anyway, since they are so large, I'll just link to them on the Quantum Zone. So, here they are...

http://www.quantumzone.org/download/CosmosInCollisionTradeCover.jpg
http://www.quantumzone.org/download/CosmosInCollisionTradePage01.jpg
http://www.quantumzone.org/download/CosmosInCollisionTradeProloguePage01.jpg
http://www.quantumzone.org/download/CosmosInCollisionTradeProloguePage02.jpg

The trade actually reprints #'s 19 - 29 for a total of 11 issues.

[Mysterio's Helmet]

Thanks Wallred. Much appreciated!

[Kyle_Ion]

sorry if I'm asking this in the wrong thread, but I was wondering if someone can tell me all of the mini series that Wendell/Quasar was in. I know he was in the starblasters mini (is that right) thanks. I was wondering something has Quasar ever confronted galactus? I hope that they give Wendell/quasar his own series and I hope that they the writers explore even further the whole quasar being infinities avatar now and ever more in the future.

[phantom1592]

He had some good parts in Avengers: Operation Galactic Storm. I know Part 1 is out in TPB, but though I imagine 2 is out, I haven't seen it yet.

[Rick Summers]

Whoa, whoa, whoa...hold up! :eek:

He's...dead?????????????

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It can't be true! Say it isn't so! He's been dead before, please say he'll be back! This is unacceptable! I even wanted to make my own little fan site for him one day but just haven't gotten around to it. (Who am I kidding...I can't even update www.thephoenixforce.com LOL) But I love Quasar. I have his whole series and most other books with him in it.

Anyway...Quasar better not be permanently dead or else!

[marshal99]

sorry if I'm asking this in the wrong thread, but I was wondering if someone can tell me all of the mini series that Wendell/Quasar was in. I know he was in the starblasters mini (is that right) thanks. I was wondering something has Quasar ever confronted galactus? I hope that they give Wendell/quasar his own series and I hope that they the writers explore even further the whole quasar being infinities avatar now and ever more in the future.

Q confronted Galactus in that fantastic four story arc where Johnny Storm became a herald.

Q also played a large part in the Avengers : Infinity mini

[Kyle_Ion]

He had some good parts in Avengers: Operation Galactic Storm. I know Part 1 is out in TPB, but though I imagine 2 is out, I haven't seen it yet.




Thanks, I'm getting the complete Operation: Galactic Storm story.

[aniscape]

Whoa, whoa, whoa...hold up! :eek:

He's...dead?????????????

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It can't be true! Say it isn't so! He's been dead before, please say he'll be back! This is unacceptable! I even wanted to make my own little fan site for him one day but just haven't gotten around to it. (Who am I kidding...I can't even update www.thephoenixforce.com LOL) But I love Quasar. I have his whole series and most other books with him in it.

Anyway...Quasar better not be permanently dead or else!


Stick around these boards and post your opinion in the thread in my signature. It seems like Andy is trying to figure something out with Quasar/Wendell and he has given us a chance to voice our opinions. For that I am grateful and would encourage anyone who wants to see more of Wendell to let him know how you feel :)

I am hopeful!

[Rick Summers]

Need some help over here!
http://www.marvel.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=3176&highlight=#3176

[wallred]

Just wanted to let you everyone know that the Quantum Zone (http://quantumzone.org) has been updated.
I added a ton of new images to the Original Art section, added a bunch of images to the Image Gallery, updated Quasar's Log, and improved the image pop-up window to automatically size to the size of the image.
Quick question, though. I added Annihiliation: The Nova Corps Files to Quasar's Log. It reprints his entry from Annihilation: Nova #3, but with an update, right?

[Kyle_Ion]

Just wanted to let you everyone know that the Quantum Zone (http://quantumzone.org) has been updated.
I added a ton of new images to the Original Art section, added a bunch of images to the Image Gallery, updated Quasar's Log, and improved the image pop-up window to automatically size to the size of the image.
Quick question, though. I added Annihiliation: The Nova Corps Files to Quasar's Log. It reprints his entry from Annihilation: Nova #3, but with an update, right?



I think that the http://quantumzone.org is a good place to go for some info on quasar, keep up the good work.

[wallred]

I think that the http://quantumzone.org is a good place to go for some info on quasar, keep up the good work.

Thanks. Glad you like the Quantum Zone.
Great news! Recent announcements reveal a Quasar 5-issue series after Annihilation.
Everybody as excited as I am?
Guess this thread is "memorial" no more.

[Kyle_Ion]

Thanks. Glad you like the Quantum Zone.
Great news! Recent announcements reveal a Quasar 5-issue series after Annihilation.
Everybody as excited as I am?
Guess this thread is "memorial" no more.



I'm happy that they are giving Quasar a mini series but at the same time I'm a little disappointed why, is because I was hoping for a ongoing series for Quasar but since it probably will never happen, I can always dream and wish for an ongoing series for Quasar. I guess I will just buy all of Quasars first series and the mini series.

[Silver Nimbus]

I'm happy that they are giving Quasar a mini series but at the same time I'm a little disappointed why, is because I was hoping for a ongoing series for Quasar but since it probably will never happen, I can always dream and wish for an ongoing series for Quasar. I guess I will just buy all of Quasars first series and the mini series.

If the Quasar mini sells enough copies, we'd get a regular series. It's happened before, it'll happen again. Sometimes a series sells so well the mini becomes a regular series - anyone remember the Transformers comic circa 1984?

So buy, buy, buy. If issue 3 sells 35-50k copies, we'd likely see an on-going title. That's just a fraction of what the first series sold, even if the market's smaller these days.

[Satyrquaze]

Where is the linky or URL about the announcement of Quasar's limited series?

Will it be our Quasar or Joe Q's Quasar??

[Expletive Deleted]

Check the "Baltimore" thread.

[Satyrquaze]

Ah, so no "real" news of a upcoming Quasar book then?

[Quasar's Bands]

What do you mean? In Newsarama "Cup O Joe," Quesada said himself there will be a Quasar 5 issue miniseries.

[Sean Walsh]

What do you mean? In Newsarama "Cup O Joe," Quesada said himself there will be a Quasar 5 issue miniseries.

I think he's implying "if it ain't Wendell Vaughn, it ain't really Quasar."

Hoping it IS Wendell, but at this point an actual Quasar miniseries is a major accomplishment.

I mean....it'd be his 2nd solo series EVER.

[Satyrquaze]

Seriously, at this point I'd settle for anything Quasar. I guess I just missed the 'actual' anouncment of the limited series. I saw Joe Q. playing a guessing game ... but other than that I lost interest rather fast.

All I can say is after Annihilation #2 The new Quasar better not be Cammi. I'll firebomb Xavier's school for gifted youngsters if thats the case. (not like anyone would notice... it gets destroyed once a month as it is.)

[Quasar's Bands]

Seriously, at this point I'd settle for anything Quasar. I guess I just missed the 'actual' anouncment of the limited series. I saw Joe Q. playing a guessing game ... but other than that I lost interest rather fast.

All I can say is after Annihilation #2 The new Quasar better not be Cammi. I'll firebomb Xavier's school for gifted youngsters if thats the case. (not like anyone would notice... it gets destroyed once a month as it is.)

You know - I wouldn't mind if the new miniseries STARTS with Cammi as the new Quasar, as long as she finds herself exterminated and Wendell ends the miniseries with the Bands on his massive forearms again. :)

[aniscape]

You know - I wouldn't mind if the new miniseries STARTS with Cammi as the new Quasar, as long as she finds herself exterminated and Wendell ends the miniseries with the Bands on his massive forearms again. :)

I don't know... I am getting a funny feelling in the pit of my stomach that Cammi will be the new Nova! The Cover to Annihilation #4 and Andy's most recent comments ...hmmm

[Quasar's Bands]

I don't know... I am getting a funny feelling in the pit of my stomach that Cammi will be the new Nova! The Cover to Annihilation #4 and Andy's most recent comments ...hmmm

Dude, you gotta read Newsarama.com once in awhile. The guy who is going to write the new Nova series said it's Richard - he's too excited not to be honest about who the character is.

[Elegance Liberty]

I don't know... I am getting a funny feelling in the pit of my stomach that Cammi will be the new Nova! The Cover to Annihilation #4 and Andy's most recent comments ...hmmm

I'm guessing that Cammi would more than likely be a future member of a future Nova Corps thing.

Hey, not like she has anything better to do out in space other than annoy the crap out of people.

[Rick Summers]

Could our beloved Quasar really be alive!?

ANNIHILATION #6 (of 6)
Written by KEITH GIFFEN
Penciled by ANDREA DI VITO
Cover by GABRIELE DELL'OTTO
Nova and Annihilus face off in a fight to the finish with the fates of two, count 'em, two, universes at stake. You think that's bad? Wait until you see what happens when Galactus decides to go to war. All this and Quasar! Need we add that after this issue, Marvel's cosmic landscape will never be the same?
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99

[Elegance Liberty]

Oh man, now THAT'S killer right there!

[Sean Walsh]

And in OHOTMU Update #1, we get a Quasar entry! :)

[Enigmanaut]

Quasar Lives!!!

Is it Wendell, though? And does he get the bands back?

[Rick Summers]

And in OHOTMU Update #1, we get a Quasar entry! :)

Yeah I got really excited about that too.
Maybe all of our clamour over Wendell made a difference!

[Silver Nimbus]

Quasar Lives!!!

Is it Wendell, though? And does he get the bands back?


Well, there's a Quasar on the cover. And it appears to be Wendell. With the bands. :p

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=solicits/marvelcomics/200701/ATOZHBU001_COV_col.jpg

[Soundrave]

Well, there's a Quasar on the cover. And it appears to be Wendell. With the bands. :p

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=solicits/marvelcomics/200701/ATOZHBU001_COV_col.jpg

They were talking about the solicit for Annihilation #6 at that point, not the Handbook cover.

[Mr. Bowflex]

I guess it's appropriate to bump this thread up.


So, TTT.

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3646/untitled2gt3.jpg (http://imageshack.us

[Mr. Bowflex]

I guess it's appropriate to bump this thread up.


So, TTT.

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3646/untitled2gt3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Satyrquaze]

I came across this while looking up quotations about Quasar.

From this site: http://whenwillthehurtingstop.blogspot.com/2004_07_01_whenwillthehurtingstop_archive.html

I think it really does him justice.

Friday, July 09, 2004
Remember The Maine

"...But the best thing about Quasar, as a character, was the fact that in terms of attitude he was just about one of the most unlikely super-characters in comic book history. From the very first he regarded fighting and violence as awkward necessities, to be avoided at all costs. In the early days, at least, he always addressed both his peers and his opponents as "Sir". When he grew more powerful, he put a premium on being able to stop his opponents in nonviolent ways – immobilizing them or destroying their weapons or simply teleporting them elsewhere. He didn’t want to fight, which is probably the oddest thing a superhero can do. I think perhaps this was Gruenwald’s way of signaling his own personal protest against the overwrought violence of 90s comics, but that's just my guess.

So, is it any surprise that Quasar was an unpopular book? It’s a miracle it lasted as long as it did. I think that after a certain point he lost interest in writing Captain America, or at least it seemed so from the rather insipid plots he was throwing out every month. At about the time his Cap lost it’s focus, Quasar started getting real interesting. Unfortunately, since Gruenwald’s passing the character has been used sparingly, if at all. He's had a few moments in the revamped Avengers, but other than that the low point was undoubtedly the Maximum Security X-Over that featured Quasar being chosen as the host body for – ah – Ego the Living Planet. It was such a lame plot point that no one since either.

Which makes sense, as crappy as it may seem. By the time his own series had run its course, Quasar had been elevated from a third-string supporting character to someone with nigh-limitless power at his disposal, and with both the knowledge and the confidence to use it judicially. He was transformed from a Marvel Two-In-One punchline to the single most powerful member of the Mighty Avengers, perhaps the single most powerful human being in the Marvel Universe, period, someone able to go toe-to-toe with the Silver Surfer and . . . hold back for fear of hurting the Surfer. So of course it makes sense that he’s not going to be hanging around Avengers’ mansion too often - "oh yeah, Ultron? I threw him in a black hole while I was watching TV."

[Anthony]

I came across this while looking up quotations about Quasar.

From this site: http://whenwillthehurtingstop.blogspot.com/2004_07_01_whenwillthehurtingstop_archive.html

I think it really does him justice.

That was beautiful.