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ElvisGuy
07-19-2006, 01:51 PM
I apologize in advance if Henry's video letter offends anyone.. But I have to say it made me laugh!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgSBhlw-o9E

Sabrinaset
07-19-2006, 02:02 PM
Looks like we have ANOTHER thread sk, WhiteRose, Gilda and I haveta derail...

*removes panties*

Cam63
07-19-2006, 02:43 PM
Damn...

I gotta go to work in five minutes.

Damn.

Noah Johnson
07-19-2006, 02:45 PM
It'd be less funny if Ann Coulter hadn't called for the repeal of women's suffrage.

The Beast Of Yucca Flats
07-19-2006, 04:16 PM
I'm sendin' this to someone!

sk716
07-19-2006, 05:13 PM
I love Henry Rollins.


Oooh, Sabrina took her panties off... What were we talking about?

Lester C.
07-19-2006, 05:41 PM
Looks like we have ANOTHER thread sk, WhiteRose, Gilda and I haveta derail...

*removes panties*
I hate to break this to do but in terms of me and Elvis Guy you taking off your undergarments isn't going to do a damn thing to derail this thread.

sk716
07-19-2006, 05:44 PM
I hate to break this to do but in terms of me and Elvis Guy you taking off your undergarments isn't going to do a damn thing to derail this thread.

Lester, you're dealing with award winners here. If this thread needs to be derailed, it will be derailed.

Sabrinaset
07-19-2006, 05:48 PM
*bra drops to the ground*

Hi, sk! You know, I never asked ... do you prefer them natural? Some people ... I never know why ... like them enhanced. Personally, I don't like them fake, but you know how it is, some people do...!

Lester C.
07-19-2006, 05:48 PM
Lester, you're dealing with award winners here. If this thread needs to be derailed, it will be derailed.
Need I mention the fact that I've won more Yabbies than anyone else here and am always on the board. I took down WhiteRose this morning so I think I'm up to laying the smackdown on you and Sabrina.

sk716
07-19-2006, 05:50 PM
*bra drops to the ground*

Hi, sk! You know, I never asked ... do you prefer them natural? Some people ... I never know why ... like them enhanced. Personally, I don't like them fake, but you know how it is, some people do...!

I hate fake, I just love a nice perky a or b cup. They make me happy.

sk716
07-19-2006, 05:51 PM
Need I mention the fact that I've won more Yabbies than anyone else here and am always on the board. I took down WhiteRose this morning so I think I'm up to laying the smackdown on you and Sabrina.

**laughing**

Lester C.
07-19-2006, 05:53 PM
**laughing**
You do realize that I have every episode of Eric and Ray on my hardrive and I'm not afraid to post them.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/trigunfan1/er1.jpg

Sabrinaset
07-19-2006, 05:56 PM
Hmm. I'm up to a C cup now. That's not too big, is it? I kinda like 'em this size. Kris does too. I hope you like em!

Lester C.
07-19-2006, 06:11 PM
I will not allow this thread to be derailed and I'm standing up to the lesbians. Ordinarily I wouldn't stand a chance against either Sk 716 or Sabrina as they are smarter than me, especially Sabrina. However I'm more annoying than the two of them put together and that's what going to carry the day for me. :evilsmile

Lonewalker
07-19-2006, 06:14 PM
That's Henry.

Awesome.

Sabrinaset
07-19-2006, 06:19 PM
There is is again, sk...someone on ignore keeps posting here.

mmmm.... sk, you taste divine.

Lester C.
07-19-2006, 06:21 PM
There is is again, sk...someone on ignore keeps posting here.

mmmm.... sk, you taste divine.
Are you saying SK is god, because if she is that would explain quite a bit about the way the world works.

Adam Crocker
07-19-2006, 06:26 PM
Looks like we have ANOTHER thread sk, WhiteRose, Gilda and I haveta derail...

*removes panties*

You are missing one very important fact. This thread isn't just about Coulter. It's about her getting dissed by HENRY FUCKIN' ROLLINS! Show respect!

It'd be less funny if Ann Coulter hadn't called for the repeal of women's suffrage.

Indeed. Arguably though Rollins crossed the line with the "best night in the sack you ever had" line. I mean with...Coulter... Ewwwwww!

Sabrinaset
07-19-2006, 06:33 PM
You are missing one very important fact. This thread isn't just about Coulter. It's about her getting dissed by HENRY FUCKIN' ROLLINS! Show respect!

...who?

Look, like sk says ... if we want this thread derailed, it WILL. BE. DERAILED.

Right, sk sweetie? Mmm-hmm!

Merey
07-19-2006, 06:34 PM
Brillant! And there's a "Letter to Laura Bush"! It's like jackpot day at YouTube.

Lester C.
07-19-2006, 06:37 PM
...who?

Look, like sk says ... if we want this thread derailed, it WILL. BE. DERAILED.

Right, sk sweetie? Mmm-hmm!
Speaking on Henry Rollins he's aging gracefully but quickly. :eek:

Lester C.
07-19-2006, 06:39 PM
Brillant! And there's a "Letter to Laura Bush"! It's like jackpot day at YouTube.

Now that bothers me a bit. As much as I disdain the president's policies his family members should be off limits unless they enter the political arena.

Lonewalker
07-19-2006, 06:43 PM
Brillant! And there's a "Letter to Laura Bush"! It's like jackpot day at YouTube.

Right you are. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRNp2VT1U_U)

Lonewalker
07-19-2006, 06:48 PM
Jackpot #3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l4fNm4QReY)

Double post? Whatev...

Merey
07-19-2006, 06:55 PM
Now that bothers me a bit. As much as I disdain the president's policies his family members should be off limits unless they enter the political arena.


But she does enter the political arena. Amongst other things, she uses the public stage to promote her husband. Like it or not, she's part of his administration. She has her own office, with a staff and responsibilities, and it's all funded by us. So, yup, I think she's fair game; just as I think Hillary as First Lady was fair game.

sk716
07-19-2006, 06:56 PM
I am a God. I must be because women keep shouting "Oh, God! Oh God!" when I do stuff to them.





Don't you Sabrina?

mistervader
07-19-2006, 07:00 PM
Isn't Henry Rollins the guy who trains you on Def Jam: Fight For NY?

Lonewalker
07-19-2006, 07:04 PM
That's correct.

Adam Crocker
07-19-2006, 07:07 PM
...who?


http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:yudgyl2jxp9b~T0

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Flag_%28band%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Rollins

Don't make me deliver a lecture young missy! :mad:

Super Sonic
07-19-2006, 07:07 PM
Henry Rollins is the fuckin' man, I love Def Jam Fight for New York!!!!


...what, he does other things? Awesome!

Noah Johnson
07-19-2006, 07:07 PM
Jackpot #3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l4fNm4QReY)

Double post? Whatev...
That's a particularly nice one.

Lester C.
07-19-2006, 07:08 PM
I am a God. I must be because women keep shouting "Oh, God! Oh God!" when I do stuff to them.





Don't you Sabrina?

Well if you would stop stalking them with firearms I'm sure the "Oh God" chants would stop.

Super Sonic
07-19-2006, 07:12 PM
..and he was Johnny Rancid, and in Batman Beyond, and in Jackass The Movie and The freakin' New Guy!!!!!








wow.

Lonewalker
07-19-2006, 07:20 PM
Yep, he was Johnny Rancid. I love that dude.

mistervader
07-19-2006, 07:50 PM
Man, I can now imagine Henry Rollins beating me up and giving me some good ol' liberal rhetoric along the way.

Cool. Can't wait for the game to come out on the PSP. :p

Adam Crocker
07-19-2006, 07:59 PM
That's a particularly nice one.

What one is it? The URL isn't working for me for some reason.

Edit: Nevermind. It actually started working.

Hybrid2
07-19-2006, 08:04 PM
You do realize that I have every episode of Eric and Ray on my hardrive and I'm not afraid to post them.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/trigunfan1/er1.jpg
EWWWWWW.
O_O

tangentman
07-19-2006, 08:19 PM
"Most of all, you will shut the fuck up."

I love it!

Is it just me, or did Henry's list of demands pretty much sum up the wet, sloppy, printed word blow job that Ann's been giving "Prince George" for the last 6 years?

Sabrinaset
07-19-2006, 08:38 PM
I am a God. I must be because women keep shouting "Oh, God! Oh God!" when I do stuff to them.

Don't you Sabrina?

Right you are ... darling.

MrSuslov
07-19-2006, 09:01 PM
Is it just me, or did Henry's list of demands pretty much sum up the wet, sloppy, printed word blow job that Ann's been giving "Prince George" for the last 6 years?
Yeah, that's about the last thing I needed fresh in my mind before heading off to bed. Thanks!

Couldn't you have just stuck to mentioning something like the facehuggers from Aliens or hordes of shambling zombies prowling the streets in search of living flesh to rend and consume? I mean, those are nightmares I can deal with. =P

Gilda Dent
07-19-2006, 09:03 PM
Wow. I really dislike Ann quite a bit, and think she's quite a hateful and divisive loony, but I'd have to say that I have a whole lot less respect for that guy.

Gilda

Sabrinaset
07-19-2006, 09:18 PM
I agree with Gilda. Having read up on this guy ... He's ... well ... icky.

Gilda Dent
07-19-2006, 09:55 PM
I agree with Gilda. Having read up on this guy ... He's ... well ... icky.

Eh. I'm just basing what I said on the one video linked. I know nothing about him otherwise. If that's typical of his style, he creeps me out more than a little bit.

Gilda

bfrank
07-19-2006, 10:05 PM
I would have cried, had he called her a twat.....

howyadoin
07-20-2006, 12:02 AM
...who?Somebody call a doctor! This woman is hemorrhaging cool points!

the4thpip
07-20-2006, 01:12 AM
I'd still do Henry Rollins.

Larry Dixon
07-20-2006, 01:13 AM
Henry & I corresponded for a while during the time my granddad was dying & Henry was always very sweet and supportive.

He has an image of rage and toughness and inside he is a pretty gentle guy.

Henry loves books, and once cried at a bookstore when he realized he would not ever be able to live long enough to read everything in it.

Cam63
07-20-2006, 01:21 AM
He seems like a nice bloke.

howyadoin
07-20-2006, 01:24 AM
He seems like a nice bloke.He even has a song about Ghost Rider (http://www.musicsonglyrics.com/H/henryrollinslyrics/henryrollinsghostriderlyrics.htm).

Cam63
07-20-2006, 01:26 AM
Does he know the way to San Jose ?

howyadoin
07-20-2006, 01:28 AM
Does he know the way to San Jose ?I suspect he just might.

Cam63
07-20-2006, 01:31 AM
You take a left at Alberqueque.

That's the standard answer.

howyadoin
07-20-2006, 01:36 AM
You take a left at Alberqueque.

That's the standard answer.Not in Canada it isn't.

the4thpip
07-20-2006, 01:36 AM
Wow. I really dislike Ann quite a bit, and think she's quite a hateful and divisive loony, but I'd have to say that I have a whole lot less respect for that guy.

Gilda
Henry is a very intelligent man and a talented wordsmith, who also tends to rock very hard.

the4thpip
07-20-2006, 01:38 AM
Henry & I corresponded for a while during the time my granddad was dying & Henry was always very sweet and supportive.

He has an image of rage and toughness and inside he is a pretty gentle guy.

Henry loves books, and once cried at a bookstore when he realized he would not ever be able to live long enough to read everything in it.
It's stories like that why I'm totally crushing on the guy. Plus, he had a Clark Kent thing going for a while.

Cam63
07-20-2006, 01:59 AM
Not in Canada it isn't.

What about if you approach it from the right side of Canada ?

Paul McEnery
07-20-2006, 02:15 AM
I agree with Gilda. Having read up on this guy ... He's ... well ... icky.
You know, I've met him, and he's an utterly charming man.

He's also published a number of my friends, for which I'm grateful.

Seems a bit much to be ragging on the man.

Cam63
07-20-2006, 02:24 AM
He's as warm as a basket full of kittens, I'm bettin'.

the4thpip
07-20-2006, 02:39 AM
Yeah, I think Gilda should read and listen up on him a little more. She's a great person, but saying that one respects Rollins less than Coulter is not very endearing at the best of times.

pennywisdom
07-20-2006, 02:56 AM
Yeah, I think Gilda should read and listen up on him a little more. She's a great person, but saying that one respects Rollins less than Coulter is not very endearing at the best of times.
If anyone disses Henry they simply don't know jack shit about him. He's one of the world's greatest writers, rockers, public speakers, comedians, social and political commentators, storytellers and a very cool, down-to-earth guy besides. I would give my left arm to be half as smart and talented as him... the fact that he chews up people like Ann Coulter just makes him that much greater.

Rollins = King of Everything. And if anyone here isn't watching his weekly show, you're simply missing out on the best talk show on TV.

http://henryrollins.ifc.com

David Bedlam
07-20-2006, 03:06 AM
Okay. I've just read the wiki article on Annie.

Now I know who she is. She's basicly just another right wing nut, right?

Cam63
07-20-2006, 03:08 AM
She's basically a hateful person.

PatrickG
07-20-2006, 03:16 AM
Most rightwing nutjobs have the sense not to call arabs "towelheads" and encourage domestic acts of terrorism.

Granted, Rush was pretty heavily medicated but he never had the rage that Coulter has.

And Buchanan is pretty damned moderate compared to Coulter.

And let me offer this:

She attracts hyperconservatives as something of a right wing sex symbol.

I know, I know, people point out her man hands and such...

But there are males from age 18 to 50 who buy (and defend) her garbage because they think she's hot.

I guess from the right angle, she looks like an old, tired Sarah Michelle Gellar.

Every liberal I know is convinced she looks worse than a zombie elephant man... But check out the guys with crewcuts and polo shirts in the suburban Barnes & Noble stores and just watch how they eye Coulter.

Dennis K
07-20-2006, 09:04 AM
I still have a hard time taking Henry Rollins seriously since he was the host of one those "junkyard/battling robots" shows that were all the rage a few years back.

Lubichev
07-20-2006, 09:25 AM
I'd pay to see a wrestling match between Rollins and Coulter.

And yeah, H. Rollins is great. Even with his appearances on that robot show and the "I love the 80's" stuff. Or was it the 90's? His past accomplishments make up for those small instances of media whoring.

the4thpip
07-20-2006, 09:26 AM
I still have a hard time taking Henry Rollins seriously since he was the host of one those "junkyard/battling robots" shows that were all the rage a few years back.
Just goes to show he's not a snob. You know how some people look down on us for reading funnybooks?

Dennis K
07-20-2006, 09:28 AM
I'd pay to see a wrestling match between Rollins and Coulter.

And yeah, H. Rollins is great. Even with his appearances on that robot show and the "I love the 80's" stuff. Or was it the 90's? His past accomplishments make up for those small instances of media whoring.


That doesn't excuse him from being in that Third Bass video. :D

Lubichev
07-20-2006, 09:29 AM
But he was great as Vanilla Ice!

TCJohnson
07-20-2006, 09:34 AM
Henry Rollins grew up in an area just north of where I am living now and I know a couple of women who dated him before he became big (apparently a lot of women around here dated him.) They always had really nice things to say about him.

Besides, how can you hate a guy who was in Teen Titans, Batman Beyond and Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker. Yeah, he played villains but still!

BlairH
07-20-2006, 09:38 AM
I guess from the right angle, she looks like an old, tired Sarah Michelle Gellar.

On that note: I've heard that SMG and hubby are fairly conservative.

Adam Crocker
07-20-2006, 09:59 AM
He even has a song about Ghost Rider (http://www.musicsonglyrics.com/H/henryrollinslyrics/henryrollinsghostriderlyrics.htm).

Hate to sound like a nit picker, but Rollins was actually covering a song by Suicide. (Which nonetheless highlights his excellent tastes in music.)

Wow. I really dislike Ann quite a bit, and think she's quite a hateful and divisive loony, but I'd have to say that I have a whole lot less respect for that guy.

Eh. I'm just basing what I said on the one video linked. I know nothing about him otherwise. If that's typical of his style, he creeps me out more than a little bit.

How might I ask, because not only was it humourous, but appropriately satirical in regards to Coulter's routine. Whether sincere or cynical, Coulter has been peddling neo-fascism throughout her career with her basic point being that anyone who disagrees with the Republican party is a traitor because they are not doing what they are told. This is why she lies endlessly to defend the party's every action and comes up with lines like "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building,", "My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism," and "We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too. Otherwise they will turn out to be outright traitors." With this kind of reasoning Rollins' letter is not only appropriate, but well aimed satire by summing up exactly the kind of things that Coulter seems to desire based on her statements alone. She wants total obedience, then Rollins outlines exactly what that means.

And as Noah pointed out, she said "I think [women] should be armed but should not vote ..." Really it makes the satire of his comments even more well aimed.

And typical of his style? The one full Henry Rollins stand-up show I watched largely consisted of humourous personal anecdotes from his life that were delivered in a self-depreciating fashion, including his silly antsiness over doing a nude scene in a movie. (I forget it's name. I'll look up later.) Also check out his thoughts on relationships (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFds_Db4OQc). So I suppose I'm coming at it with a different perspective of and background on Rollins and his work.

howyadoin
07-20-2006, 03:12 PM
Okay. I've just read the wiki article on Annie.

Now I know who she is. She's basicly just another right wing nut, right?She's basically a psychotic racist whorebag.

howyadoin
07-20-2006, 03:13 PM
What about if you approach it from the right side of Canada ?The left side is the right side. That's why I moved here.

Gilda Dent
07-20-2006, 03:49 PM
How might I ask, because not only was it humourous, but appropriately satirical in regards to Coulter's routine.

I'd never heard of the guy before reading that initial post and watching the video linked.

I'm not a fan of Ann Coulter, as I've said repeatedly, and I agree that her ideas are divisive and show more than a little bigotry towards gays, women, and anybody who isn't just like her.

I'm also not a big fan of the idea that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Just because he's attacking somebody I dislike and disagree with politically doesn't mean that I have to agree with or like how he does this. He seems, in that video, to be engaging in the same sort of hate-filled rhetoric that doesn't allow for any dissenting opinions that she frequently uses, but his seemed to be both more personal and a little more degrading.

I may agree with him politically, I don't know enough to be sure, and I'm certainly not inclined to find out more based on the praise that particular bit is getting here, but I find this particular tactic of demonizing and belittling your political opponents to be distasteful no matter who is using it.

Gilda

Magneto_X
07-20-2006, 04:06 PM
On that note: I've heard that SMG and hubby are fairly conservative.

There's nothing wrong with them being conservative. It's only if they're bat-shit crazy neocons.

Prinz Jr. isn't surpising, but SMG has done some pretty raunchy & feminist-like* roles/projects in her career.

* I don't mean it as an insult, either. She usually plays independent, strong willed women!

Sabrinaset
07-20-2006, 04:08 PM
Put another way, Gilda, this is a variation of Mel Brook's definition of Comedy, which goes something like "Tragedy is when I fall into a manhole cover; comedy is when YOU fall into a manhole cover and die."

I mean, I saw that video also, and essentially the attitudes here are the same. What concerns me is Adam's opinion that ... if I'm not mistaken ... that Hatred and Bile are when Ann Coulter does it. Humor and satire are when Rollins does it.

But, as a doctor, I can afford to be tragically unhip. Yeah ... I'm the conservative version of PhoenixRising. So, I'll just stick to making fun of Civil War for now.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?p=3405592#post3405592

Noah Johnson
07-20-2006, 04:20 PM
I mean, I saw that video also, and essentially the attitudes here are the same. What concerns me is Adam's opinion that ... if I'm not mistaken ... that Hatred and Bile are when Ann Coulter does it. Humor and satire are when Rollins does it.
If you cherry-pick your data, sure. If you actually look at the bodies of work of both individuals, that thesis becomes unsupportable.

Sabrinaset
07-20-2006, 04:23 PM
Noah ... I don't need to eat the whole apple to know it's rotten.

Jeff Brady
07-20-2006, 04:34 PM
Noah ... I don't need to eat the whole apple to know it's rotten.

Hank (as I like to call him) is a familiar face on USO tours, visits VA hospitals, visits his fans in cancer wards.

Sabrina, you're looking at a small bruise (on an otherwise good apple) under a microscope.

Check out the album Think Tank, especially the second disk.

Sabrinaset
07-20-2006, 04:37 PM
Do you guys know what I'm reading for fun right now? Books on how polling in the US is done! Pop culture is NOT my strong suit!

But, all right, I'll put that on my list too...

Noah Johnson
07-20-2006, 04:38 PM
Noah ... I don't need to eat the whole apple to know it's rotten.
Nice turn of phrase. I fully intend to borrow it next time I want to justify ignoring inconvenient data. :)

Sabrinaset
07-20-2006, 04:55 PM
Nice turn of phrase. I fully intend to borrow it next time I want to justify ignoring inconvenient data. :)

Ignoring for the moment the part of the post where I said I'll put this on my list of people to read about since what I know of him is that video...Do you mean like when you did THIS, Noah?

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=3237209&postcount=7

Note to YABSies: In order to understand the full irony of this post, you have to actually click and read the link I posted about the Hot Coffee at McDonalds Lawsuit. Something Noah clearly didn't do. Then read Noah's own comments.

David O Burcham
07-20-2006, 05:27 PM
I lost all respect for Henry Rollins a few years ago while watching one of those "100 Greatest..." shows on VH1. He said the Spice Girls made good, solid pop music and that they had a long career ahead of them.

I died a little inside that day.

Adam Crocker
07-20-2006, 06:00 PM
I mean, I saw that video also, and essentially the attitudes here are the same. What concerns me is Adam's opinion that ... if I'm not mistaken ... that Hatred and Bile are when Ann Coulter does it. Humor and satire are when Rollins does it.



He seems, in that video, to be engaging in the same sort of hate-filled rhetoric that doesn't allow for any dissenting opinions that she frequently uses, but his seemed to be both more personal and a little more degrading.

No, not really. The irony of Rollin's tone is pretty evident, where it is completely absent in Coulter's writing and public statements. Does anyone think that he's in any way serious in his proposal to Coulter? "Where to now my sweet fascist"? How could the approach and intent be any clearer?

And I don't see the demonizing, which requires a serious attempt to villify one's opponents and even portray them as sub-human. This is not a serious attempt by any standard, unless you count him calling her a "fascist" in a tongue-in-cheek manner. (Which is really a demonstrable fact at this point in her career.) As not allowing an alternate point of view, he's doing a comedy routine. Does he make this allowance for the FCC in his letter to him (see Jackpoint #3)? Would anyone complain in that regard? More importantly he's refracting her sensibilities back at her by laying them out in an absurdist proposal that she become his slave. And the closing line? Pure farce. How is this anything other than a send-up?


Noah ... I don't need to eat the whole apple to know it's rotten.

The problem with this statement is that Rollins', throughout his twenty-five year career has proven himself to be an intelligent human being with something worthwhile to say and not given over to kind of insane nonsense propogated by Coulter. He's done music, non-fiction, poetry, spoken word, stand-up, some acting stints, publishing (his own work and works of others, including two books Nick Cave), and even some political activism (including gay rights) and doing USO tours since the beginning of the Iraq War. And he's even very self-depreciating. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIAqbUx3rb4) He has not based his entire life's work around being a partisan hack who has done nothing but propagate hate and bile, while being blatantly dishonest in the process. Which is part of the reason why people regard this as satire, nevermind the pretty clear delivery.

(And the video was Live and Ripped in London which I cannot find on You Tube but found on Kazaa Lite.)

Noah Johnson
07-20-2006, 06:43 PM
Note to YABSies: In order to understand the full irony of this post, you have to actually click and read the link I posted about the Hot Coffee at McDonalds Lawsuit. Something Noah clearly didn't do. Then read Noah's own comments.
By all means, read my comments. Especially this one. (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=3238133&postcount=29)

See, that's what I'm talking about. I was wrong, I admitted it and apologized. And yet you omit that fact in order to maintain a preexisting opinion. It's dishonest and you know it.

You can say a lot of things about me. Am I rude? Yeah, sometimes I am. Smug? You betcha. Snarky? Like a motherfucker.

But I'm not a liar, and no manipulation of the data will suddenly make me one.

Gilda Dent
07-20-2006, 06:51 PM
You're probably right. Judging him on the whole for the one video is probably unfair. Given that it was what prompted this thread and the praise that's being given to it, I don't think it was unfair of me to assume that this was typical. I'll rephrase what I was saying.

He may be a decent person. I don't know enough about him to fairly judge that. I didn't, however, find that video to be the least bit funny because of the style that he is using there, the vicious personal attack, the attempt to demonize her personally rather than show the flaws in her beliefs and how she presents them. Those things I find distasteful regardless of the person being attacked, and that style is one of the things that I greatly dislike about Coulter.

He may be a good person, and it's possible that we may share some political viewpoints, but his style certainly isn't one that I enjoy.

Gilda

Noah Johnson
07-20-2006, 06:55 PM
He may be a good person, and it's possible that we may share some political viewpoints, but his style certainly isn't one that enjoy.
Fair point. That's not his only style, though. Check out the "Letter to the FCC" video, the third one linked to in this thread. Acerbic on top, but doing some lovely visual things that underline his point quite well.

And, too, he's done lots of things less crabby than these video letters. Overall, he's not really my favorite, I think. Kind of like how I feel about Neil Gaiman. I like his stuff, it's obviously excellent work, but just doesn't hit all my cool buttons the way he does some peoples'.

BlairH
07-20-2006, 07:16 PM
She usually plays independent, strong willed women!
Independent?
Strong willed?

That's the very litmus test for conservatism. You can't be a conservative unless you value independance and strength.

(blowing one's own trumpet, I know.)

Noah Johnson
07-20-2006, 07:31 PM
Independent?
Strong willed?

That's the very litmus test for conservatism. You can't be a conservative unless you value independance and strength.
Would that it were so...

Folks lean right for various different reasons, but one of the popular ones right now is a taste for authoritarianism.

Also, of course, when it comes to women, too many conservatives (though of course not all) think crap like this (http://buriedtreasurebooks.com/PrairieMuffinManifesto.php) is how things ought to be.

Gilda Dent
07-20-2006, 08:48 PM
Am I reading that wrong, or are they basically equating the husband with God as far as the wife is concerned?

Gilda

Adam Crocker
07-20-2006, 08:55 PM
Overall, he's not really my favorite, I think.

I prefer Ian Mackaye. And by 'prefer Ian Mackaye' I mean 'Fugazi outdoes Black Flag for sheer awesomeness.' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apuLs_ayKRM)

This shameless plug was paid for the by the 'Fugazi iz teh f*cking r0xx0r' Committee.

Adam Crocker
07-20-2006, 08:57 PM
Am I reading that wrong, or are they basically equating the husband with God as far as the wife is concerned?

No you aren't. Strangely enough Puritan ideas of family circa 1600 were more enlightened than this. At least they knew the husband wasn't God.

Paul McEnery
07-21-2006, 01:55 AM
I lost all respect for Henry Rollins a few years ago while watching one of those "100 Greatest..." shows on VH1. He said the Spice Girls made good, solid pop music and that they had a long career ahead of them.

I died a little inside that day.
Of course.

It's the day you realized you were old.

And even Henry had more of a finger on the pulse. :D

Paul McEnery
07-21-2006, 01:56 AM
Independent?
Strong willed?

That's the very litmus test for conservatism. You can't be a conservative unless you value independance and strength.

(blowing one's own trumpet, I know.)
Correct.

Hence my reasons for distinguishing between you and the sheeple.

Paul McEnery
07-21-2006, 01:57 AM
You're probably right. Judging him on the whole for the one video is probably unfair. Given that it was what prompted this thread and the praise that's being given to it, I don't think it was unfair of me to assume that this was typical. I'll rephrase what I was saying.

He may be a decent person. I don't know enough about him to fairly judge that. I didn't, however, find that video to be the least bit funny because of the style that he is using there, the vicious personal attack, the attempt to demonize her personally rather than show the flaws in her beliefs and how she presents them. Those things I find distasteful regardless of the person being attacked, and that style is one of the things that I greatly dislike about Coulter.

He may be a good person, and it's possible that we may share some political viewpoints, but his style certainly isn't one that I enjoy.

Gilda
Ah, it's just Henry doing his thing. Which is a sight more polite than he usually does in his stand up.

Mind, Henry ain't no Bill Hicks.

Larry Dixon
07-21-2006, 03:26 AM
I just sent a copy of my Red Friday Viral reply to Henry. *hee* He digs that kind of thing.

Spike-X
07-21-2006, 05:18 AM
He may be a decent person. I don't know enough about him to fairly judge that. I didn't, however, find that video to be the least bit funny...

It was ok. Far from his best work.

...because of the style that he is using there, the vicious personal attack, the attempt to demonize her personally rather than show the flaws in her beliefs and how she presents them. Those things I find distasteful regardless of the person being attacked, and that style is one of the things that I greatly dislike about Coulter.


All fair points.