The New Generational Heroes of the DC Universe

[Frostbite883]

Here's my version of the new superheroes/heroines that would
take over for the previous generational heroes of the DCU.

Eradicator - David Connor can be the new Superman of this era and
everytime he want to activate his powers, he transforms his physical
appearance to become similar to Superman's physical appearance
and facial features. And Dave would wear E's old costume(Eradicator
wore that leotard since 'The Reign of the Supermen' story arc).

Donna Troy - I would have Donna Troy permently become Wonder
Woman in the pages of the new Wonder Woman comic series.

Richard "Dick" Grayson - Grayson would become the new Batman and
he would finally be equal to Bruce Wayne in skill, determination,
detective work, etc.

Kyle Rayner - Green Lantern Kyle Rayner would not become Ion, but he
would be the Green Lantern to guard earth alongside Green Lantern John
Steward.

Bart Allen - Since Bart is at least 19 years old(or 18) and since Wally is
the future somewhere, he would now take on the mantle of the Flash.

Aquaman - This "Arthur Curry" is(I'll admit) a better generational
character to carry on the Aquaman legacy and the title of being the new King of the Seas! AQUAMAN!!!

T'omm J'onzz - Not only will he be back into continuity as J'onn's brother
but, he will also be the new Martian Manhunter(since J'onn will retire from
superheroics).

Jason Todd - Jason Todd would be the new Nightwing.

Joker's Daughter - She would become The Joker's actual daughter and
she would carry on his madcap evil legacy of madness.

Charley Parker - Charley(Ch'al Andar) would now remain as Hawkman.

Legacy chraracters that will still remain are Steel IV aka Natasha Irons
Firestorm III aka Jason Rusch & Martin Stein, Blue Beetle III aka Jaime Reyes,
Atom IV aka Ryan Choi, The "New" Seven Soldiers of Victory, Crimson Avenger III, Green Arrow II aka Connor Hawke and others.

Well, that's that. What do ya'll think of my version of new DCU Heroes
of this era and what would your versions be?

[phantom1592]

Well, that's that. What do ya'll think of my version of new DCU Heroes
of this era and what would your versions be?

I probably woudn't read them. They aren't the REAL heroes. Much as I like Grayson, he is NOT Batman. Connor is NOT Green Arrow. and Eradicator is NOT superman.

If these characters want me to treat them with anykind of respect they need to get out from under the cape of their predecessors. Nightwing had the right idea. Be his OWN hero. That way there won't be generations of people trying to compare the two, and the new guy living in the shadow of the "real" hero. (Look at Kyle vs Hal arguments for example)

[Frostbite883]

I probably woudn't read them. They aren't the REAL heroes. Much as I like Grayson, he is NOT Batman. Connor is NOT Green Arrow. and Eradicator is NOT superman.

True. But, who's to say they won't be in the near future. In, oh say....
the next decade or two(I doubt it would happen but, DC might surprise us).


If these characters want me to treat them with anykind of respect they need to get out from under the cape of their predecessors. Nightwing had the right idea. Be his OWN hero. That way there won't be generations of people trying to compare the two, and the new guy living in the shadow of the "real" hero. (Look at Kyle vs Hal arguments for example)

Well, since the All-Star DC line already have titles of All-Star Batman, All-Star
Superman & the Justice mini-series it could be possible to have the "original"
superheroes in the All-Star DC comic imprint(with at least 10 "original" heroes
with their own titles). And the current DCU could start producing new
generational heroes for this era for fans who want change. Besides, It's not
like it's a guarantee Superman, Green Arrow and other "original" heroes
will always be the same characters once the next millienium roll around.

[David Atkins]

T'omm J'onzz - Not only will he be back into continuity as J'onn's brother
but, he will also be the new Martian Manhunter(since J'onn will retire from
superheroics).

Jason Todd - Jason Todd would be the new Nightwing.

Joker's Daughter - She would become The Joker actual daughter and
she would carry on his madcap evil legacy of madness.


I like all of your ideas except for those three.

[protege]

David Connor is more like the punisher than Superman- I'd rather he kept his hard edge.

[Frostbite883]

I like all of your ideas except for those three.

Why? Is it because they havn't been used all that much?

[The Shadow]

I probably woudn't read them. They aren't the REAL heroes. Much as I like Grayson, he is NOT Batman. Connor is NOT Green Arrow. and Eradicator is NOT superman.
Same here.

And to answer your question...

True. But, who's to say they won't be in the near future. In, oh say....
the next decade or two(I doubt it would happen but, DC might surprise us).
DC will NEVER get rid of Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent or Diana (just as Peter Parker is always gonna be Spider-Man). These characters are icons and go beyond a generational thing. They have been ingrained in our heads for 70 years and DC isn't stupid enough to change that.

Sure they'll replace em now and again... or have cartoons (and maybe even comics) about "future" Batman's or Superman's... but those will only run while the REAL versions are still available.

[Frostbite883]

Same here.

And to answer your question...

DC will NEVER get rid of Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent or Diana (just as Peter Parker is always gonna be Spider-Man). These characters are icons and go beyond a generational thing. They have been ingrained in our heads for 70 years and DC isn't stupid enough to change that.

Sure they'll replace em now and again... or have cartoons (and maybe even comics) about "future" Batman's or Superman's... but those will only run while the REAL versions are still available.

Good Point. But, still there are some DCU fans who would want to
see Clark, Bruce, etc. to hang up the capes permamently someday
and have noble successors to carry on their mantles. Me included.
Which would be sooooo cool.:cool:

[The Shadow]

Good Point. But, still there are some DCU fans who would want to
see Clark, Bruce, etc. to hang up the capes permamently someday
and have noble successors to carry on their mantles. Me included.
Which would be sooooo cool.:cool:
Why?

Then it's not Superman, Batman or Wonder Woman... it shows how easily replacable they are and that ANYONE can do it.

[kel25]

Jason Todd - Jason Todd would be the new Nightwing.

I really hate this one. :mad: Dick became Nightwing to become his own man and get out of Batman's shadow.

The idea of Robin being highschool and Nightwing being college defeats the whole purpose of why he stopped being Robin.

Of course editors at DC don’t pay attention to there own characters hence the last few horrible years of Nightwing and the fact that there is now 3 of them running around.

[Frostbite883]

I really hate this one. :mad: Dick became Nightwing to become his own man and get out of Batman's shadow.

The idea of Robin being highschool and Nightwing being college defeats the whole purpose of why he stopped being Robin.

Of course editors at DC don’t pay attention to there own characters hence the last few horrible years of Nightwing and the fact that there is now 3 of them running around.

Could be worse. DC could've created a NIGHTWING
CORPS superhero police force for the DCU and they could've
made a title out of a story like that. Would it be grand.;) :p

[Alan2099]

Good Point. But, still there are some DCU fans who would want to
see Clark, Bruce, etc. to hang up the capes permamently someday
and have noble successors to carry on their mantles.
There's people out there that would want to see Superman shown as an arogant tyrant that rules the world and people who'd like to see Batman as a bloodthirsty psycho maniac.

Just goes to show you that just because some people want to see something, it doesn't make the idea any good. ;)

[Sizzle]

As much as I like Grayson, he'll never be equal to Batman. If there was not something unique about Batman as a person, he'd be completely replaceable. Dick can be well trained mentally and physically, but he does not have the drive that Batman has. Which really probably is a bad trait for Batman's part, but it set's him apart.

[kel25]

As much as I like Grayson, he'll never be equal to Batman. If there was not something unique about Batman as a person, he'd be completely replaceable. Dick can be well trained mentally and physically, but he does not have the drive that Batman has. Which really probably is a bad trait for Batman's part, but it set's him apart.

This is very true. The only way to replace Bruce with Dick would be to kill Bruce. This might push Dick closer to Batmans drive.

BTW there is a story out there that shows Batman and Superman growing old and having people take over for them. I think it's called Generations. Not the greatest story but decent.

[David Atkins]

Why? Is it because they havn't been used all that much?

I don't like the characters themselves. Jason Todd is supposed to be dead, J'onn is supposed to be Mars' sole survivor, and the Joker's daughter... eh. The Joker doesn't need an heir.

[Agentum]

There is no real god reason to just throw away the older heroes, it has been done before and most was a failure nd just made the older hero return again.
They can of course put out a comic with a future DCU in and use something like your idea in that book.

And Grayson working so hard to step out of Batmans shadow should never be Batman in the name, a replacement yes but not with the name Batman.
J'onn Jo'nzz could possibly live a very long time maybe thousands of years.

[Infectious Lass]

DC can't throw away the old heros because they couldn't stand losing the copyrights to names like Clark Kent & Bruce Wayne.

I believe sometime in the near future something happens and heros are not abundant for a few centuaries. Whenever the Legion forms they always look to the heros Superman,Batman,Wonder Woman,etc. That's why it's such a big deal when Cosmic Boy,Saturn Girl,and Lightning Lad form the Legion of Super-Heros.

Jonz Jonzz in most versions of Legion is alive & kicking, sanctifying marriages on the Mars colonies.

[ducklord]

T'omm J'onzz - Not only will he be back into continuity as J'onn's brother
but, he will also be the new Martian Manhunter(since J'onn will retire from
superheroics).


It's not unusual to read minds like a martian
It's not unusual to shape-shift like a martian
But when I see you lighting a match 'round this martian
It's not unusual to see my fry
I'm gonna die

And female super-villains will throw their panties at him,
Mike.

[Lonewalker]

Meh, not an appealing selection quite frankly.

[Frostbite883]

Meh, not an appealing selection quite frankly.

Oh, really. What would you suggest?

[hondobrode]

Logistically, DC will always keep those character names, but that doesn't mean that they would have to be synonymous with their heroic identities. I would love to see an alternate universe DC title. DC was going to give Frank Miller a "DK2-universe" title but passed from overwhelming negative response to DK2. An ongoing based on The Kingdom was delayed too long due to contractual problems with Gene Ha, so they passed on it after too much time had passed. That one would've been pure dynamite.

[jimmyboy]

I probably woudn't read them. They aren't the REAL heroes. Much as I like Grayson, he is NOT Batman. Connor is NOT Green Arrow. and Eradicator is NOT superman.

If these characters want me to treat them with anykind of respect they need to get out from under the cape of their predecessors. Nightwing had the right idea. Be his OWN hero. That way there won't be generations of people trying to compare the two, and the new guy living in the shadow of the "real" hero. (Look at Kyle vs Hal arguments for example)
Agreed. Even Dick agrees that there's no "replacing" Bruce. Succeed, yes; replace? No.

Dick has every right to wear the Batman suit when Bruce isn't around. He'd even do a good Batman much of the time, and the man on the street wouldn't know the difference. But he's not fully a replacement.

[Frostbite883]

You know, since there are signs that Tim Drake could be Batman
at some point in time, I think it'll be a good idea for Tim to become after
the events in Batman RIP....and if he's retconned to become an 18 year
old to be the new Dark Knight, at least.

After all, Tim probably can develope a drive, like Batman, to fight crime
more efficiently than ever before if something really, really happens
that'll have Tim come to that point.

If Drake loses Bruce Wayne (Batman) after Batman RIP, he'll
most likely become more driven to become more than he once
was to fight crime and avenge for those who can't protect themselves.

And it's quite likely that with Bruce's death, Tim will do anything to
avenge Bats' death. Even if it means being the very person he didn't
want to be at all.....Batman.

So in this case, Tim could possibly wear the cowl of the Dark Knight Detective
once the Battle of the Cowl limited series ends (if it's actually going to come out sooner or later).