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Brian M.
07-01-2006, 10:29 PM
So to start off Cyclops week I'm gonna start the first thread.
Tell me your favorite Cyclops moments. They can be good, bad, whatever I don't care. Tell me what this character has done that has made you smile.
Vegetarian Goat
07-01-2006, 10:30 PM
So to start off Cyclops week I'm gonna start the first thread.
Tell me your favorite Cyclops moments. They can be good, bad, whatever I don't care. Tell me what this character has done that has made you smile.
Uncanny #175. That's reason enough for anyone to love the character.
Affinity
07-01-2006, 10:31 PM
After throwing up in House of M #5, he got up immmediately and loosened his tie...within HALF a moment's notice, he was the leader once again.
I loved that. I remember ACTUALLY grinning like a damn fool.
Brian M.
07-01-2006, 10:33 PM
After throwing up in House of M #5, he got up immmediately and loosened his tie...within HALF a moment's notice, he was the leader once again.
I loved that. I remember ACTUALLY grinning like a damn fool.
Oh I know but then it seemed like in issue#6 he was deferring to Emma, but still, his whole speech on the HeliCarrier was awesome.
Brian M.
07-01-2006, 10:34 PM
Uncanny #175. That's reason enough for anyone to love the character.
You know up until issue#200 or so he was doing that a lot in Claremont's run. He would routinely fight his teammates, sometimes to snap them back under his control, to get them back on edge, prove points but in that issue man...awesome. Going against the whole team who wants to destory you and then using Rogue to win what a leader.
mattbib
07-01-2006, 10:44 PM
Some of my favorite Cyclops moments were when he showed real emotion.
Obviously his part in the death of Phoenix, but also when he lost leadership of the X-Men to Storm and again later when he made the decision to send baby Nathan into the future with the Askani.
Brian M.
07-01-2006, 11:06 PM
I think some of the ones for me are:
Uncanny X-Men #32: When he first shows some emotion and lets Jean in.
Uncanny X-Men #115: I think I'm correct on this issue but it's when he took on the team and get their mind focused in the Savage Land
Uncanny X-Men #127-128: The actions he took in taking down Proteus and getting Wolverine back on track
Uncanny X-Men #136-137: Obviously his feelings and actions during the Dark Phoenix Saga
X-Factor #66-68: Letting Nathan go.
Uncanny X-Men #308/X-Men #30: Him and Jean finally get engaged/married
X-Men #44: Leading the remaing people from Avalon's fall through the Austrailian Outback.
X-Men #97: The sacrifice he gave to save the Twelve and the rest of the World.
There are so many more for me but those are the big ones.
mattbib
07-01-2006, 11:09 PM
X-Men #44: Leading the remaing people from Avalon's fall through the desert through the Austrailian Outback.God, I loved that issue. That was in '95, right? Great cover and story. I remember the Fall of Avalon issues well because Paul Smith returned to draw those.
Brian M.
07-01-2006, 11:12 PM
God, I loved that issue. That was in '95, right? Great cover and story. I remember the Fall of Avalon issues well because Paul Smith returned to draw those.
Yea it was. That issue is really pure badass Cyclops. The way he kept pushing Scanner and keeping the other Acolytes in check awesome leader.
I think I'm gonna go read it again.
kel25
07-01-2006, 11:35 PM
AoA Cyclops for tricking Wolverine and blasting off his hand. :evilsmile
xgeek52
07-02-2006, 01:30 AM
xmen #30...not the entire wedding but the finanl few panels when he tells the professor what he really means to him...
the close second is the end issue where scott tells kitty to go back to chicago and run for mayor...in the latter he showed the leadership...in the former he acknowledged the teacher...:cool:
and thus the week begins..
Mjolnir
07-02-2006, 01:54 AM
ASTONISHING X-MEN
The battle with Logan on the lawn
"Nice, the guy who's been trying to steal my wife from day 1 is talking about what's proper."
"Hey Logan, that healing factor's about to come in real handy"
The battle of the half-destoryed Sentinel.
"I want this thing off my lawn...now."
FLASH
(Logan)"every now and then, Summers...I remember why you're still in charge."
and the entire issue of Astonishing #14
Foley
07-02-2006, 02:19 AM
I don't remember the issue, but the X-men are on an island where they are depowered and Magneto is about to take over the world with his machine. Cyke organizes the X-men without their powers and leads them to wreck the machine. They end up battling magneto later on in the issue and defeating him. That issue just rocked.
Brian M.
07-02-2006, 02:19 AM
I don't remember the issue, but the X-men are on an island where they are depowered and Magneto is about to take over the world with his machine. Cyke organizes the X-men without their powers and leads them to wreck the machine. They end up battling magneto later on in the issue and defeating him. That issue just rocked.
I think that was issue#150. Was Lee Forrester with him?
Foley
07-02-2006, 02:23 AM
I think that was issue#150. Was Lee Forrester with him?
That she was
tangentman
07-02-2006, 02:32 AM
The stand-out Cyclops moments for me were the quieter scenes from classic issues...
Scott sharing his concerns about the Hellfire Club with Warren. The X-Men are in trouble--they're up against enemies who know how they think, how they fight, can spy on them in their home. Always thinking like a leader, Scott takes the X-Men to Angel's remote Rocky Mountain home after the showdown with Emma in Chicago. Immediately after the "hellos", Scott asks Warren to fly him somewhere private in the desert. Angel soars to a butte, which he as he points out, shouldn't be bugged. Still, Scott covered the bases there while managing to catch up with an old friend. Of course, this scene leads into...
Scott and Jean making love atop the butte. Phoenix interrupts the conversation and forces Scott to sit down and relax with a picnic. We see the effect Jean's always had on Scott--simultaneously being able to pierce the emotional armor and get Scott worked up, while also being able to calm the internal storm at work beneath the stoic surface. Jean also convinces Scott to remove his ruby-quartz glasses, displaying staggering power as she telekinetically restrains his eyebeams. All because Jean "wants to see his eyes." A simple, yet profound moment, in their relationship.
I personally liked Scott's relationships with Colleen Wing and Lee Forrester--both came on the heels of Jean's "deaths". The first was the result of a false belief, and thus, doomed from the start. The second began while Scott was soul-searching in the wake of Jean's suicide. As it happens, Lee also lost her father to suicide. They bond in the wake of great personal tragedies, but they're not deluding themselves that they're the "loves of one another's lives". They both simply want comfort after experiencing loss. Both relationships seemed very mature to me, made more so because of their inevitable failure.
-- Cyclops blowing away all of the Wrecking Crew and then some, with one Mega Optic Blast, in Secret Wars. Talk about power.
-- back in the eighth grade, during the Onslaught Saga, there was a brief scene showing the leaders for the final assault: Captain America, the Wasp, Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Jean Grey, and ... Cyclops. Woot!
-- Pretty much the end of Here Comes Tomorrow. I love how Grant Morrison essentially made the story about Cyclops, without Cyclops actually being in the story except for the end. Apparently, the apocalyptic future with Sublime taking over the planet and almost all of Earth's heroes dead is prevented simply by Cyclops becoming headmaster of the school. If that's not cosmic fate, I don't know what is.
Sean Whitmore
07-02-2006, 03:49 AM
X-Factor #68 - Cyclops decides he's had enough of Apocalypse's nonsense and blasts the **** out of him so badly that he stiill hadn't fully regenerated a few years later.
X-Men #23 - Cyclops single-handedly fights off the Dark Riders, and becomes the first mutant to be deemed "worthy" enough to survive.
Uncanny X-Men #300 - Cyclops fights off both Javitz and his tired rhetoric with an optic blast and the line: "You have the right to live any life you choose...up until the moment you threaten somebody else's!"
X-Men #30 - The aforementioned Scott/Charles scene. "I love you, Charles Xavier."
New X-Men #126-127 - Cyclops kicks ass all over, first escaping from the S'hiar holding cell ("Hey. It's those pesky X-Men.") to teleporting off the ship an instant before it explodes ("We hit the ground running. We save lives. And we stop Cassandra Nova.") to arriving at the mansion in the nick of time to save the day ("Scott. You're my favorite super hero.").
SEAN
Sean Whitmore
07-02-2006, 04:05 AM
Movie Cyclops should get some love, too. He had some great scenes in the first movie, and Marsden really infused him with some subtlety to make up for his lack of screentime.
-When Logan grabs Scott by the scruff of his shirt, Scott doesn't act the least bit intimidated. He looks at Logan with an almost curious look, like he can't believe this guy did something as stupid as grab him. Then he glances at Xavier with this impatient look that I swear said, "Charles, you wanna call your project off before I cripple him?"
-"It must burn you up that a boy like me saved your life, huh? Gotta be careful. I might not be there next time." Pwned. :)
-Scott sits by a possibly dying Charles and tells the professor how he feels about him. Then he promises to take care of the X-Men/students, in what was his most Cyclops-like scene in the movie.
SEAN
Movie Cyclops should get some love, too. He had some great scenes in the first movie, and Marsden really infused him with some subtlety to make up for his lack of screentime.
-When Logan grabs Scott by the scruff of his shirt, Scott doesn't act the least bit intimidated. He looks at Logan with an almost curious look, like he can't believe this guy did something as stupid as grab him. Then he glances at Xavier with this impatient look that I swear said, "Charles, you wanna call your project off before I cripple him?"
-"It must burn you up that a boy like me saved your life, huh? Gotta be careful. I might not be there next time." Pwned. :)
-Scott sits by a possibly dying Charles and tells the professor how he feels about him. Then he promises to take care of the X-Men/students, in what was his most Cyclops-like scene in the movie.
SEAN
Yeah, too bad the next two films wouldn't/couldn't follow suit.
I said it before and I'll say it again: Even a brief torture scene in the second movie could've revealed so much about Scott's character.
AceOfSpades
07-02-2006, 06:27 AM
X-Men #44: Leading the remaing people from Avalon's fall through the Austrailian Outback.
That was a really awesome issue. It showed some real character on his part and just demonstrated how much of a leader he really was
Affinity
07-02-2006, 06:53 AM
Cyclops killing Ugly John (the three faced, pug snouted boy in E is for Extinction) was very powerful, too. It was before we found out what Cassandra did to Genosha and it was really cool, showing us that this wasn't Revolution, this was a whole new thing. It was sad, and yet, you knew he had to do it. And Scott Summers did it.
I liked that.
He took CHARGE in New X-Men a lot (before the affair thing) and I liked that. Morrison saw that he was a leader, and so he took the character and used it.
Karl J. Barnes
07-02-2006, 07:00 AM
All very good moments mentioned already, but I am surprised(or maybe I missed it) that his wonderful and poignant speech to Xavier from the GN God Loves,Man Kills, in which Scott shows that Charles may be the dreaner of The Dream, Cyclops torch-bearer, has yet to be mentioned.
Zombienorthstar
07-02-2006, 07:26 AM
Most of Planet X is a convuluted mess...but when Cyke says hes gonna let all his repressed agression out on people like Magneto then promptly makes the dudes helmet explode...thats great.
Is it terrible by Greatest hits i assumed this would be a topic about women?
Hi-Fi
07-02-2006, 07:43 AM
Uncanny X-Men 175: Scott takes out EVERY X-Men, including Storm, Colossus, Wolverine and Rogue. Awesome issue and awesome Scott. He was an incredible leader back at the day.
Brian M.
07-02-2006, 08:57 AM
Uncanny X-Men 175: Scott takes out EVERY X-Men, including Storm, Colossus, Wolverine and Rogue. Awesome issue and awesome Scott. He was an incredible leader back at the day.
He stil is.
A lot of the early X-Factor was great too. The stuff during Fall of the Mutants and Mutant Massarce were awesome.
Uncanny X-Men #136: Scott tries to reason with Dark Phoenix. Since he can reach Jean Grey on a deep emotional level, he succeeds as Jean's human side comes to the surface to explain her actions. Scott's talk with Jean is what saves Xavier when he mindblasts Phoenix. Jean Grey fights her Phoenix-self allowing Xavier to place the psionic circuit breakers within Jean's mind. As a result, Phoenix reverts to Marvel Girl.
Uncanny X-Men Annual #9: Rachel Summers--who secretly took on the name & power of Phoenix in Uncanny X-Men #199--suprises the other X-Men with her Phoenix costume. Cyclops asks Rachel to not wear the costume, but Rachel points out to Scott he is a retired X-Man & no place to say what she cannot wear. He grudgingly accepts Rachel Summers Phoenix name. Apparently, Rachel's transformation is incomplete because her full powers of Phoenix is not realized until she heals the broken Shi'ar Holempathic Matrix Crystal in Uncanny X-Men #201.
X-Factor #13-14: Scott believes Madelyne Pryor is dead. However, the Master Mold II reawakens to wreak havoc in Alaska. Cyclops saves two police officers after the Master Mold is seemingly destroyed again.
Brian M.
07-02-2006, 09:12 AM
X-Factor #13-14: Scott believes Madelyne Pryor is dead. However, the Master Mold II reawakens to wreak havoc in Alaska. Cyclops saves two police officers after the Master Mold is seemingly destroyed again.
I forgot about that one, that was really awesome. God I love those old X-Factor comics.
Sentinel K
07-02-2006, 09:36 AM
X-Factor #11
Near the end of the Morlock massacre.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/covers/x-factor/x-factor11.jpg
Scott knows he's majorly f***ed up his relationship with Jean because of the whole 'being married to Maddie' thing.
He knows Warren fancies the undies off her and that jean has feelings for him and feels bad about feeling jealous of him and their possible relationship. Especially after he's in a bad way after harpoon did him over in the morlock tunnels.
He has a moment, where he thinks about the way he's been acting, and resolves to be a man about it and let Jean do what she wants to do. Be with who she wants to be with. He knows he's had his chance and screwed it up. Time to move on.
Its a cool scene showing what's going on in his mind, and tells us a lot about Scott and what his friends and loved ones mean to him and what he'd sacrifice.
Also he shows how badass he is at the end of the issue by blasting Berserker, who is being a tit.
spoon_jenkins
07-02-2006, 10:07 AM
A lot of my faves have been mentioned.
Uncanny X-Men #175 is probably tops. Cyclops demonstrates that skills that make him a great leader.
Uncanny X-Men #127: getting Wolvie back on to track when Proteus messed with his mind - by smacked him around a bit!
X-Men #44: that was a cool one I forgot about. IIRC, he had to get the Acolytes to cooperate when they were traveling through the Outback.
X-Factor #68: Scott seemingly obliterates Apocalypse and has to give up his son.
Uncanny X-Men Annual #9: I also like the brief bits of interaction we got between Scott and Rachel back then. Does he realize who she is?
Tangentman mentioned Colleen Wing. I like the scene in Uncanny X-Men #123 where he explains his childhood to Colleen. And then, I think it's in #125, Scott's shocked to see that Colleen left her apartment key.
There's some I don't have been mentioned.
I like Uncanny X-Men #167 where Scott decides he'll be the one to slay Xavier when he's been transformed into a Brood. He wants the matter to be treated with some dignity. Then, when a chance to save Charles emerges, Scott's the strongest advocate for it.
My favorite stuff from X-Factor may be X-Factor #25-26. Scott and Jean make a great team working together to deal with the havok Apocalypse has caused in NYC. Then, Scott and Jean finally make up for the deception about Maddie and their troubles earlier in the series.
Affinity
07-02-2006, 11:13 AM
I need to catch up on the old issues. I've mostly been reviewing the Wilderness Era, nothing more, along with a bit of Dark Phoenix.
Speaking of which, I liked seeing how Scott reacted to Wyngarde just up and sweeping Jean away, either with a kiss or a formal dance. It was cool to see him keep his cool and not just take off the shades and blow his head off.
fishtaco
07-02-2006, 11:46 AM
Uncanny X-Men #127: getting Wolvie back on to track when Proteus messed with his mind - by smacked him around a bit!
X-Factor #68: Scott seemingly obliterates Apocalypse and has to give up his son.
Uncanny X-Men Annual #9: I also like the brief bits of interaction we got between Scott and Rachel back then. Does he realize who she is?
My favorite stuff from X-Factor may be X-Factor #25-26. Scott and Jean make a great team working together to deal with the havok Apocalypse has caused in NYC. Then, Scott and Jean finally make up for the deception about Maddie and their troubles earlier in the series.These are among my favorites as well.
Others...
Uncanny X-Men #46 (2nd story), where he first meets Iceman.
Marvel Graphic Novel #5, where he suggests to Stryker that for all they know Stryker is a mutant and the X-Men are humans. He was pointing out that "human" and "mutant" are labels.
Uncanny X-Men #200, where he tells the professor that he is having a hard time risking his life for a man who has tried to kill him more than once (Magneto).
Uncanny X-Men #201, where he accepts the fact that he lost to Storm. He also stands outside and is angry that the professor isn't with him to celebrate the birth of his child.
X-Factor (1st Series) 1. The whole thing.
X-Factor (1st Series) #18. Vs Jean Grey.
Uncanny X-men #156. Jumps out of plane with Alex.
Kirayoshi
07-02-2006, 12:13 PM
Best recent moment: Astonishing X-Men #8. The mansion's attacked by a broken-down Sentinel being controlled by Danger. Cyke, Colossus and Wolverine are taking it out while Beast, Emma and Kitty are getting the students to safety. At one point, Cyke simply orders Peter and Logan behind him, takes off his visor and says, "I want this thing off my lawn!" Huge panel of nothing but red and three tiny sillouettes. Logan replies, "Every once in awhile, Scott, I remember why you're the leader of this team."
Potential future favorite Scott scene: AXM #18, when he confronts Emma over the mindf*** she gave him. Don't screw it up, Joss!
Affinity
07-02-2006, 12:37 PM
That reminds me---calling Emma a sick b*, hahaha, that was great.
Mikl C
07-02-2006, 12:40 PM
X-Men #44: Leading the remaing people from Avalon's fall through the Austrailian Outback.
That's my choice. Fucking amazing issue, showing Cyclops as the BEST leader bar none. Even with people who hate him.
Brian M.
07-02-2006, 12:43 PM
That's my choice. Fucking amazing issue, showing Cyclops as the BEST leader bar none. Even with people who hate him.
Yea I love the dialouge between him and the two big meat head Acolytes I can't remember their name.
Meat Head #1: Your pushing Scanner to hard
Cyclops: I would never push anyone beyond their limits
Awesome shit.
Blackcat
07-02-2006, 12:52 PM
Mine are:
Giving up Nathan
Marridge to Jean
The fall of Avalon (one of his greatest moments)
Always when he steps in front as the X-Men leader in mega crossovers like Onslaught, Secret Wars.
Turning his back on, just had it finally with Xavier after all ontrustful things Charles did and were revealed lately (Dangers kind of inprisoning, Vulcan, etc.)
His failure in staying faithful to his girlfriends - wives
Red Lotus
07-02-2006, 01:17 PM
Uncanny X-men 335 the X-men have just been demolished by Onslaught when the Avengers and X-man show up. The teams start to fight and when X-man powers start to make things get even more out of control then the already are, Cyclops steps in and not only takes out X-man but takes control over the entire situation.
Sabretooth: In the Red Zone when he looked Creed right in the eye and tells him that the simple truth is: he’s too weak a man to better himself.
Mikl C
07-02-2006, 01:25 PM
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PWNED!
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BADASS!
(sorry for my crappy scanning but it's an awesome cyclops moment)
tjarvis
07-02-2006, 01:31 PM
That same issue, when he has to blast a whole through a mountain in order to lead everyone through it, that made me sit back and say whoa.
And I'll throw out some love for Ultimate Cyke too. Millar's whole Return of the King arc did an excellent job of showing why Cyclops is the man. The scene when Magneto realizes that Scott has fooled him right as the X-Jet crashes into the base is awesome.
Mikl C
07-02-2006, 01:35 PM
"the shortest distance between two points, Kleinstocks-- ZAP!-- is a straight line."
Respect!
There was an issue during dark Phoenix i liked where he took on mastermind in a fencing battle :D
Sentinel K
07-02-2006, 01:37 PM
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Is that a big stone c**k I see in one of those panels?
Red Lotus
07-02-2006, 01:42 PM
That same issue, when he has to blast a whole through a mountain in order to lead everyone through it, that made me sit back and say whoa.
And I'll throw out some love for Ultimate Cyke too. Millar's whole Return of the King arc did an excellent job of showing why Cyclops is the man. The scene when Magneto realizes that Scott has fooled him right as the X-Jet crashes into the base is awesome.
I like how he took Wolverine out with one shot and then told him he was off the team
Mikl C
07-02-2006, 01:48 PM
Is that a big stone c**k I see in one of those panels?
It's a perfectly innocent rock formation! Get your mind out of the gutter young man.
Matthew K.
07-02-2006, 01:55 PM
All very good moments mentioned already, but I am surprised(or maybe I missed it) that his wonderful and poignant speech to Xavier from the GN God Loves,Man Kills, in which Scott shows that Charles may be the dreaner of The Dream, Cyclops torch-bearer, has yet to be mentioned.
echo echo
Yea I love the dialouge between him and the two big meat head Acolytes I can't remember their name.
Meat Head #1: Your pushing Scanner to hard
Cyclops: I would never push anyone beyond their limits
Awesome shit.
Er'body talking about this moment made me like it all the more :)
"There was an issue during dark Phoenix i liked where he took on mastermind in a fencing battle :D
But Cyclops lost his battle with Mastermind. Mastermind "stabs" Scott's astral self to death.
Foley
07-02-2006, 02:21 PM
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BADASS!
(sorry for my crappy scanning but it's an awesome cyclops moment)
The best part of this is that after Scanner passes out he carries her all the way to the outback base:D
Mikl C
07-02-2006, 02:34 PM
But Cyclops lost his battle with Mastermind. Mastermind "stabs" Scott's astral self to death.
I know he lost... I HAVE read the issue. It's still a good moment.
Matthew K.
07-02-2006, 02:39 PM
The best part of this is that after Scanner passes out he carries her all the way to the outback base:D
Scanner definately dug Cyclops.
I also liked how the story left a little hope for Scanner to join the team oneday.
Foley
07-02-2006, 02:40 PM
Scanner definately dug Cyclops.
I also liked how the story left a little hope for Scanner to join the team oneday.
I wish they would have brought her into the X-men. She would have rocked. Young and idealistic...kinda like Kitty before she got uptight
Mikl C
07-02-2006, 02:53 PM
her powers are a bit hit-and-miss though. I do adore Scanner though. And the carrying back part was cute :)
Matthew K.
07-02-2006, 02:59 PM
I wish they would have brought her into the X-men. She would have rocked. Young and idealistic...kinda like Kitty before she got uptight
You & me both! She was tempted to join the X-Men once (already mentioned), & Excalibur vol 1 #106 also left the glimmering idea that she might join the good fight.
She would make a nice edition, as well as give Kitty Pryde some rivalry as the wide-eyed young girl with phasing ability who has her eyes set on Colossus. Kitty and Scanner can be the new Jean and Emma, fighting over the same man (bringing it back to Cyclops now).
Brian M.
07-02-2006, 04:13 PM
Scott: There's some water for you. Drink it and lets keep moving.
Everyone else: Thank you sir may I have another.
Dr Ray Palmer
07-02-2006, 06:38 PM
I just posted this over in the "X-Men moment that moved you thread," then saw this one and realized it fits just as well here, so I'll post it again. Apologies for any of you who end up seeing it twice.
I've always really, really liked the scene between Cyclops and Rachel at the end of X-Men/Alpha Flight #2 where he's asking about her parents, and it's pretty clear that he knows that he and Jean are her parents, and she knows he knows, but they don't actually say it.
Rachel: My dad, he used to say, as long as you're alive, it's never too late.
Scott: Did ... your father ... die in that future?
Rachel: All the X-Men died.
Scott: You know, you remind me an awful lot of someone.
Rachel: That good or bad?
Scott: Good. She was very ... dear to me. And when she died, all the light -- the joy -- went out of my life. A part of me will always miss her. I never imagined I'd ever be as happy -- and fulfilled -- again, until I met Madelyne. It isn't the same, but that doesn't mean it can't be as good, or maybe even better.
Rachel: My mom had a saying: Everybody deserves a second chance.
Scott: Smart lady.
Rachel: Yeah. When they made my folks, they broke the mold.
Scott: Funny -- I was just thinking much the same thing about you.
I think that's my favorite Cyke moment -- that exchange between the two of them is really sweet and well-written. Shortly after that Scott dumped Madelyne and things went to hell for him characterwise, and I still find him kind of exasperating a lot of the time, but I like looking back at that scene and reminding myself why he used to be one of my favorite characters.
I'll also cast another vote for all of Uncanny #175, which is one of my two all-time favorite single issues of any comic (the other being #173, the Rogue/Wolverine issue), and a big reason why I love it so much is that Cyclops is so awesome in that issue.
Brian M.
07-02-2006, 06:46 PM
But Cyclops lost his battle with Mastermind. Mastermind "stabs" Scott's astral self to death.
Yea I'm sure he knows that, what was the point of stating that? Scott was fighting for the woman he loved.
fishtaco
07-02-2006, 09:33 PM
Rachel: My dad, he used to say, as long as you're alive, it's never too late.
Scott: Did ... your father ... die in that future?
Rachel: All the X-Men died.
Scott: You know, you remind me an awful lot of someone.
Rachel: That good or bad?
Scott: Good. She was very ... dear to me. And when she died, all the light -- the joy -- went out of my life. A part of me will always miss her. I never imagined I'd ever be as happy -- and fulfilled -- again, until I met Madelyne. It isn't the same, but that doesn't mean it can't be as good, or maybe even better.
Rachel: My mom had a saying: Everybody deserves a second chance.
Scott: Smart lady.
Rachel: Yeah. When they made my folks, they broke the mold.
Scott: Funny -- I was just thinking much the same thing about you.
god, I loved that scene.
Brian M.
07-03-2006, 12:53 AM
Astonishing #12
His remarks at the end to both Xavier and Emma
Xavier: I can't expect you to forgive what I've done...
Cyclops: But you do, don't? We'll come around right? What does it hurt? The oppression of a new life form...you figure we've taken enough from the Sapiens, why not dish it out to A.I.?
Emma: I'm not saying I agree with...
Cyclops: Of corse you agree, this exactly the elitist crap you spout daily, Emma. You wanna tell me something worth hearing? Tell me why you walked out in the middle of a firefight?
Foley
07-03-2006, 12:57 AM
Astonishing #12
His remarks at the end to both Xavier and Emma
Xavier: I can't expect you to forgive what I've done...
Cyclops: But you do, don't? We'll come around right? What does it hurt? The oppression of a new life form...you figure we've taken enough from the Sapiens, why not dish it out to A.I.?
Emma: I'm not saying I agree with...
Cyclops: Of corse you agree, this exactly the elitist crap you spout daily, Emma. You wanna tell me something worth hearing? Tell me why you walked out in the middle of a firefight?
God that makes me happy :)
Brian M.
07-03-2006, 09:55 AM
I just finished rereading X-Factor #66-68 and I have to say that if I have to pick one Cyclops moment I think this is it. It's everything that is the character in 3 issues. He's the leader, he's the lover, he's the fighting and the father. It's vintage Cyclops, I've not seen him written like that in a long long time.
Mariah
07-03-2006, 09:58 AM
I just finished rereading X-Factor #66-68 and I have to say that if I have to pick one Cyclops moment I think this is it. It's everything that is the character in 3 issues. He's the leader, he's the lover, he's the fighting and the father. It's vintage Cyclops, I've not seen him written like that in a long long time.
That was a sad moment. I think I almost cried when I read those issues. To be honest, some of my favorite X-Factor stories we're before PAD came on. I would have loved to see him get to use the original 5 in his run.
Traser
07-03-2006, 11:34 AM
I just finished rereading X-Factor #66-68 and I have to say that if I have to pick one Cyclops moment I think this is it. It's everything that is the character in 3 issues. He's the leader, he's the lover, he's the fighting and the father. It's vintage Cyclops, I've not seen him written like that in a long long time.
It was these issues that made me a Cyclops fan in the first place...Classic stuff, I miss it.
mattbib
07-07-2006, 08:26 AM
I just finished rereading X-Factor #66-68 and I have to say that if I have to pick one Cyclops moment I think this is it. It's everything that is the character in 3 issues. He's the leader, he's the lover, he's the fighting and the father. It's vintage Cyclops, I've not seen him written like that in a long long time.Some of the best issues I've ever read; more emotion there than had been felt in a long time.
The Lucky One
07-08-2006, 01:19 PM
Some of my favorite Cyclops moments were when he showed real emotion.
Matt's absolutely right there. The thing about Scott is, he's so reserved that when he DOES show real emotion, it means so much more than when anyone else does. Wolverine gets pissed off? So what, it happens every issue. Cyclops getting pissed off is an event... it means holy $#!+, someone's in big trouble.
But to me, the number one, all-time greatest Cyclops moment, the one that cemented him as THE X-Man to me, wasn't a pithy quip or an awesome attack or a great strategy... it was what he did and what he said in UXM #167, which I read reprinted in X-Men Classic #71 when I was about 11. It was just so spot-on, so inspiring, and I remember thinking Wow... this dude is the Man. (Having Cannonball and Mirage immediately comment the same thing afterward didn't hurt, I'm sure.)
The set-up is that Professor Xavier had been implanted with a Brood egg, and the X-Men had arrived home too late to stop the transformation- Xavier was now irrevocably a Brood Queen, prepared to slay both the X-Men and his newly-formed class of New Mutants. After fierce combat, the X-Men managed to temporarily stun her and had to decide what to do next, with Wolverine prepared to kill her. And Cyclops said, "Not this time, Wolverine. I was the first X-Man. It's my right -- my responsibility."
Think about that: this was the man who raised him, the man he saw as his father, years before any retcons about uncharacteristic mindwipes to eliminate memories of brothers or any crap like that. His father, and Cyclops was prepared to kill him himself rather than delegating it to someone else. That's responsibility, my friends. But it doesn't end there: Xavier temporarily regains control from the Brood Queen and starts begging to be killed, knowing he can't hold her personality back for long. Wolverine says "You heard the man," preparing for the killing stroke. And what does Cyclops do? He backhands the runt out of the way, saying:
"I also heard Phoenix play this riff before she died! I never had a chance to save the woman I loved. I'm damned if I'm going to watch Charles Xavier go the same way. So long as there's hope -- no matter how slight -- the X-Men fight to preserve life, to create, rather than destroy. Any objections?"
That is Cyclops, people. He's not an asshole, he's not a personality-less robot; he simply holds his emotions in check better than any man alive, for what he perceives as the good of everyone around him. But when the emotion does come out... you recognize. Cyclops is speaking, baby. Listen and obey.
-D
spoon_jenkins
07-08-2006, 01:55 PM
Amen to the Lucky One's whole post on Uncanny #167.
Also, a lot of what make Cyke so intriguing is the subtleties of his character. It makes him three-dimensional and more like a real person. His inner struggles are relatable, especially compared to the tired "I'm XX-treme and I like to kill people, yo!" stuff that supposedly makes characters interesting.
I think the father-son bond is important to the Cyke's approach to Prof. X in #167. He's not deal with this as just a utilitarian calculation. And he guards his emotions, so this is how he shows how much he cares about the Professor. His reference to Jean really brings out his regrets about what could have been.
Dr Ray Palmer
07-08-2006, 05:34 PM
I'll cast another vote for Uncanny #167. That issue is fantastic all around, and especially the Cyke stuff. Plus it's drawn by Paul Smith, so what's not to like?
Optimus
07-09-2006, 11:52 AM
I've always thought of X-Men 133 when I thought of Cyclops. That's the issue where the X-Men are captured by Mastermind and the Hellfire Club and Cyclops goes into Jean's mind to free her and fights Jason Wyngarde and seems to lose but actuallly suceeds in freeing Jean.
I also really like the Ultimate X-Men Cyclops after Wolverine betrays him and he recovers and enters Magneto's camp and takes charge.
Optimus
07-09-2006, 11:55 AM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/colganmichael/ab7393ef.jpg
Somebody said these issues were drawn by Paul Smith. Yet that's clearly Andy Kubert....
Brian M.
07-09-2006, 12:00 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/colganmichael/ab7393ef.jpg
Somebody said these issues were drawn by Paul Smith. Yet that's clearly Andy Kubert....
The issue before that one is Paul Smith.
Dr Ray Palmer
07-09-2006, 12:23 PM
If that were Paul Smith, it would have a lot fewer lines. :)
Chupacabra
01-16-2007, 09:53 PM
What do you guys think of Cyclops and what issues that are recent is he in quite a bit?
Rice-a-Roni
01-16-2007, 10:38 PM
Cyclops is one of my favorite X-Men, and I think he is definitely underrated by many people. A lot of people find him boring, but he is a terrific character. He's a strong, intelligent, and powerful leader.
As for books his been in, pick up the Astonishing X-Men trades and issues. That's mainly where he's been recently.
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