Don't you think that Cap would HAVE to know who the fake DD is?

[Sharcque]

I've been reading other thread with people saying that NO ONE, not even Cap, know who the fake Daredevil is.

I don't buy this. Cap knows who DD really is, and would recognize an "impostor" and if he didn't approve of said impostor, he'd take him down.

what do you guys think? Doe he know or not?

[Kevinroc]

I do think he knows. But he won't say out loud who it is. And so we won't be getting the info in CW.

[Iron Syndicate]

Ah, but here's the catch - For Cap to know who the other DD (I don't like the use of the word 'fake') is, then DD would have had to unmask WILLINGLY. That is because if Cap forces DD to reveal himself that he's just as bad as the pro-reg side.
Therefore, if DD doesn't want Cap to know who he is, I don't think Cap has much options.

So there's a pretty good chance that Cap doens't know that's it really Hawkeye... :p

[Dermie]

Ah, but here's the catch - For Cap to know who the other DD (I don't like the use of the word 'fake') is, then DD would have had to unmask WILLINGLY. That is because if Cap forces DD to reveal himself that he's just as bad as the pro-reg side.
Therefore, if DD doesn't want Cap to know who he is, I don't think Cap has much options.

So there's a pretty good chance that Cap doens't know that's it really Hawkeye... :p

IF new DD is really Clint, then Cap should should recognize Clint's voice...unless he is masking it in some way (which isn't out of the question).

[annihilator]

cap knows who it is i think-he has to, or else it doesn't make sense.

[mandog]

Cap knows I dont doubt that for a second.

[Red Lotus]

I've been reading other thread with people saying that NO ONE, not even Cap, know who the fake Daredevil is.

I don't buy this. Cap knows who DD really is, and would recognize an "impostor" and if he didn't approve of said impostor, he'd take him down.

what do you guys think? Doe he know or not?


I can under stand with DD helping Cap that maybe Cap knows who this other DD is. But I don't see why Cap would take down and Imposter he doesn't approve of or what right he would have to take down that imposter. If Cap recognize that this guy isn't Matt I think he would stay out of it. Cap and Matt have never seem like buddy buddy to me. Because of this Cap might think Matt has told this guy to take over being DD for now.

[sephirothskiller]

Yah... I think its Hawkeye too. Though if someone could explain to me how he isn't dead that would be just peachy... Ugh, I've never been so upset over a resurrection in my life.

[Red Lotus]

Yah... I think its Hawkeye too. Though if someone could explain to me how he isn't dead that would be just peachy... Ugh, I've never been so upset over a resurrection in my life.

Blame it on Wanda.

[Miss Kitty Fantastico]

Cap must know who's behind the mask - it's not a matter of curiosity, he's allowing the guy to participate in an underground resistance, in a key role. He must believe that this Daredevil is someone he can trust. If they'd worked together a lot, Cap might trust this DD without having to know his identity, but so far as I know, that's not the case.

Therefore, Cap knows damn well that it's Nick Fury :p

(No, not entirely serious.)

[Bobster777]

Cap must know who's behind the mask - it's not a matter of curiosity, he's allowing the guy to participate in an underground resistance, in a key role. He must believe that this Daredevil is someone he can trust. If they'd worked together a lot, Cap might trust this DD without having to know his identity, but so far as I know, that's not the case.

Therefore, Cap knows damn well that it's Nick Fury :p

(No, not entirely serious.)
Yeah, I agree with you there Miss Kitty. Cap knows what is at stake. He won't just let some wildcard on the resistance. Like you, he must trust the guy to back him up no matter what.

[Sabrinaset]

I just put a mask on and walked into the living room. Daddy still recognized me, no matter how hard I tried to disguise my voice. So yeah, that new costume is NOT fooling Cap, who KNOWS Iron Fist is impersonating DD!

[StoneGold]

That's why I've been saying it is more than likely either Hawkeye or Paladin, since Cap has teamed with both rather extensively. There was a time, when Gru was writing Cap's book, where Paladin was almost a de facto sidekick.

[Bobster777]

That's why I've been saying it is more than likely either Hawkeye or Paladin, since Cap has teamed with both rather extensively. There was a time, when Gru was writing Cap's book, where Paladin was almost a de facto sidekick.
Considering Luke is in the picture, he could have talked Danny into taking on the DD persona. It's not totally out of the realm of possibility. Although, I'm about 95% sure now it is Hawkeye.

[Sharcque]

Ah, but here's the catch - For Cap to know who the other DD (I don't like the use of the word 'fake') is, then DD would have had to unmask WILLINGLY. That is because if Cap forces DD to reveal himself that he's just as bad as the pro-reg side.
Therefore, if DD doesn't want Cap to know who he is, I don't think Cap has much options.

So there's a pretty good chance that Cap doens't know that's it really Hawkeye... :p
and you know it's Hawkeye how?

[StoneGold]

If we're going to take hints at face value, it can't be Iron Fist. Brubaker said the character has been out of action since late last year. Fist just popped up in Daughters of the Dragon.

[Bobster777]

If we're going to take hints at face value, it can't be Iron Fist. Brubaker said the character has been out of action since late last year. Fist just popped up in Daughters of the Dragon.

Hmm, may be just out of action as IF. That doesn't mean he couldn't be doing other stuff (for instance impersonating a certain Hell's Kitchen hero).

[StoneGold]

Hmm, may be just out of action as IF. That doesn't mean he couldn't be doing other stuff (for instance impersonating a certain Hell's Kitchen hero).
That doesn't make any sense. For one thing, I just said Iron Fist showed up as Iron Fist in Daughters of the Dragon. Doing Iron Fist type stuff.


Actually, that was the only thing. Never mind.

[Bobster777]

That doesn't make any sense. For one thing, I just said Iron Fist showed up as Iron Fist in Daughters of the Dragon. Doing Iron Fist type stuff.


Actually, that was the only thing. Never mind.
Oh, ha ha, I see. Sorry about that. What is the timeline on Daughters though? Is it happening at the same time as when the impostor DD appeared?

[StoneGold]

Oh, ha ha, I see. Sorry about that. What is the timeline on Daughters though? Is it happening at the same time as when the impostor DD appeared?
Doesn't matter. Bru said they person in question hasn't been seen since late last year. According to our time, not story time. Now, he could have been mistaken, but assuming he isn't, it's not Fist.

[Bobster777]

Doesn't matter. Bru said they person in question hasn't been seen since late last year. According to our time, not story time. Now, he could have been mistaken, but assuming he isn't, it's not Fist.

Oh okay, now I get it. Hopefully that's not true though. I was liking debating whether it is Hawkeye, Fist, or Paladin.

[Mjolnir]

I reckon Clint Barton will return as the new Ant-Man, NOT Daredevil.

He sure as hell aint 'Hawkeye' anymore, thanks to Young Avengers #12

[Bobster777]

I reckon Clint Barton will return as the new Ant-Man, NOT Daredevil.

He sure as hell aint 'Hawkeye' anymore, thanks to Young Avengers #12
Ha ha, yeah, Clint did have growing powers before. However, there isn't rule saying you can't have two characters with the same name.

[Haunt]

Barton couldn't be the new Ant-Man because two SHIELD agents are. and who says that the Daredevil in the first issue of Civil War wasn't Matt Murdock? do we know the timeline, for certain? looks to me like Punisher and Murdock escape from prison. that would allow Matt to join up with Cap's crew, since an escaped convict is going to need somewhere to hide. and the impostor Daredevil is supposed to be adventuring in Monaco; from previews. that could easily still be Paladdin or Clint Barton.

[drwho]

Nomad cough cough

[Bobster777]

Barton couldn't be the new Ant-Man because two SHIELD agents are. and who says that the Daredevil in the first issue of Civil War wasn't Matt Murdock? do we know the timeline, for certain? looks to me like Punisher and Murdock escape from prison. that would allow Matt to join up with Cap's crew, since an escaped convict is going to need somewhere to hide. and the impostor Daredevil is supposed to be adventuring in Monaco; from previews. that could easily still be Paladdin or Clint Barton.
Ahh, never thought of it that way. Still, it would be more dramatic if the DD in CW was someone else. Then, we can have a Matt/impostor DD confrontation.

[bounusball75]

I beleive the fake DD is Hawkeye, Hawkeye is my favortie anvenger ever, even ahead of cap and thor.

[Typo Lad]

. So yeah, that new costume is NOT fooling Cap, who KNOWS Iron Fist is impersonating DD!

Oh good, I thought I was the only one who thought that.

[shaunyc56]

I think Luke Cage pulled Cap aside and said, "Look Iron Fist is trying to get our freind DD out a jackpot, and he wants to help out on the resistance." And that's how cap knows its IRONFIST.

[StoneGold]

OK, realizing it's a crossover and there would be some stuff off panel, but assuming we are seeing everything, I don't think it's Hawkeye. Basically, Cap would be behaving a lot differently around the guy who was dead a few weeks ago and has been missing since than the virtually ignoring him that he is. Same goes for the Nomad guess. Iron Fist or Paladin, it's far likelier that he'd just accept them without going all gooey. Except Fist has shown up since November, which would break the hint Bru gave.


Or it could be Hawkeye, and the tearful reunion between him and Cap happened off panel. Either way.

[phantom1592]

Cap must know who's behind the mask - it's not a matter of curiosity, he's allowing the guy to participate in an underground resistance, in a key role. He must believe that this Daredevil is someone he can trust. If they'd worked together a lot, Cap might trust this DD without having to know his identity, but so far as I know, that's not the case.

Therefore, Cap knows damn well that it's Nick Fury :p

(No, not entirely serious.)


Exactly he has this daredevil in the super secret bunker that only he and Fury know about, AND knows Murdock is in jail. That takes a matter of trust.

[Mike Smash!]

Do we even know that this is the fake DD? It's possible that Civil War takes place before he goes to prison.

[Rollo_Tomasi]

I think Luke Cage pulled Cap aside and said, "Look Iron Fist is trying to get our freind DD out a jackpot, and he wants to help out on the resistance." And that's how cap knows its IRONFIST.

too funny.

[shaunyc56]

too funny.


Ok, the scene is funny, but I do think it's Iron Fist. C'mon he's Luke's +1. They're like John Cusack and Jeremy Piven.

[Rollo_Tomasi]

Do we even know that this is the fake DD? It's possible that Civil War takes place before he goes to prison.

Nope, Brubaker AND Brevoort have said the DD in Civil War is definitely the imposter.

[Davidai]

But if Cap knew who the fake DD was wouldn't his solo comic reveal it. I know his solo comic hasn't even caught up to CW yet. So maybe we have to wait till his does to get the full story?

[StoneGold]

I hate to keep bringing this up, but keep in mind, while FakeDevil might be appearing in Civil War, and while clues to who he is may have appeared there, this is a DareDevil storyline. The reveal will be for whomever will make the biggest impact in the DareDevil book, not Civil War.

[Beyond The Beyonder]

Honestly, with Cap, we're talking about a guy who's going up against his government in order to protect the secret identities of heroes.

Wouldn't it be a bit hypocritical of him to demand to know who DD is!?! It's a weird position to be in but I'd say Cap's thinking is "well, I'm telling the public that if some unknown masked Marvel is performing a heroic act, then that's enough; they don't need to know... so if I'm gonna be in my integrity here, then I'll just trust this guy is here for a reason." Cap's a wise man. Wise people are in touch with their sixth sense. Even if Cap doesn't know who the fake DD is, he can sense he's on the side of the angels.

Or at least, that's my no-prize theory.

[Davidai]

But what if the Fake DD willingly unmasked himself to Cap just for trust sake? Hopefully if Cap does know he wil explain in his solo book.

[Bobster777]

Well, DD 88 will be the big issue. Hopefully, they will do the brunt of the explaining there. If anything, I don't see the point of having to bring up an explanation in the Cap books. I'd rather the Cap tie-ins concentrate on delving into Cap's thinking, such as it did for a moment during New Avengers.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I keep going back to that scene in Civil War 1# . That dialogue was nothing like Iron Fist would do. I really pictured Hawkeye at that moment saying it .

Of course this is Marvel so they'll odds are make it Iron Fist.

[Bobster777]

I keep going back to that scene in Civil War 1# . That dialogue was nothing like Iron Fist would do. I really pictured Hawkeye at that moment saying it .

Of course this is Marvel so they'll odds are make it Iron Fist.
Ha ha, yeah. That is why it has been so frustrating trying to figure it all out. I think a lot of readers would be pleased if it were Hawkeye. However, a greater surprise would be if it were Iron Fist. There is even a chance that it may be Paladin. The question is, how much does Cap really trust these people? I mean, he must know Matt is in jail. He would have to trust this fake DD to just let him do what he is doing.

[Davidai]

IT would make sense that it would be Iron Fist. Since Hawkeye returnin' could be one of them "Big" surprises in CW as Marvel claims.

[Haunt]

Captain America, if he really is anti-registration, shouldn't care who it is. the guy is helping. who cares what costume he's wearing or what his real identity is?

[phantom1592]

Captain America, if he really is anti-registration, shouldn't care who it is. the guy is helping. who cares what costume he's wearing or what his real identity is?


Because he knows who Daredevil is supposed to be, and he knows that it isn't this guy. THIS guy could be anyone. He's about to start a hero vs hero war and he won't know who his friends are. He wouldn't take a known imposter into his secret hideout.

Just a logical thing to me.

[jpk]

I keep going back to that scene in Civil War 1# . That dialogue was nothing like Iron Fist would do. I really pictured Hawkeye at that moment saying it .

Of course this is Marvel so they'll odds are make it Iron Fist.

Wouldn't be the first time a writer took liberties with a character's conversational style/personality. I mean, we just had Sam Wilson talking like 50 Cent in the latest NA, after all.

[StoneGold]

I mean, we just had Sam Wilson talking like 50 Cent in the latest NA, after all.
Do you want to quote me where that happened? Because I'd love to see it. Happen in your little snowball world, Tommy?

[Typo Lad]

Sam was talking a little more "street" than usual, but no more than he did in his last series.

Maybe he's just induldging his other side more. What did he call himself, "flip"?

[StoneGold]

Sam was talking a little more "street" than usual, but no more than he did in his last series.

Maybe he's just induldging his other side more. What did he call himself, "flip"?
Flip Wilson was a comic from the 70s. Snap Wilson was the pimpin' thug that got Cosmic Cubed into the Falcon.


Thank you Steve Englehart.

[Typo Lad]

Honestly, that really is the worst retcon ever.

"Hey I know, let's take this educated African American and make him all ghetto!"

[saintsaucey]

I think it is Clint as well. just cause that is what I am being told by my dealer. I thought I read somewhere that it really is Matt in Civil War.

[90'sCartoonMan]

My theory was that Fakedevil voluntarily told Cap who he is, and Captain America let him help.

As to who it could be, I want it to be Hawkeye, but I dunno. What kinds of feats have we seen Fakedevil do? If he's just as agile as Matt Murdock, I can't see it being Clint Barton. Iron Fist, though, sure. Or maybe it's Thor, returned and working in secret.

[Haunt]

My theory was that Fakedevil voluntarily told Cap who he is, and Captain America let him help.

As to who it could be, I want it to be Hawkeye, but I dunno. What kinds of feats have we seen Fakedevil do? If he's just as agile as Matt Murdock, I can't see it being Clint Barton. Iron Fist, though, sure. Or maybe it's Thor, returned and working in secret.

why would Clint Barton need to disguise himself or wear Daredevil's costume around the others?

[phantom1592]

The ONLY reason to disguise himself as Daredevil is to help Matt Murdock get out of Jail. This also means it "should" be someone who KNOWS the tabloids were true, and is helping afriend out.

Personally I don't see Hawkeye fitting ANY of those reasons.

If they were going to pull the whole "Ronin/Echo" thing, then I would like it to be the the new White Tiger/FBI agent.

[garin]

As the leader of the anti-registration crowd (These masks are a tradition! Leave our civil liberties alone!) would Captain America have the moral right to demand to know who was behind the Daredevil mask?

Edit: Meh, already bought up on the first page.

[Bobster777]

why would Clint Barton need to disguise himself or wear Daredevil's costume around the others?
Same thing could be said for the other culprits. The only one who would actually need a disguise is Nick Fury. Although, I really doubt that is him.

[Haunt]

The ONLY reason to disguise himself as Daredevil is to help Matt Murdock get out of Jail. This also means it "should" be someone who KNOWS the tabloids were true, and is helping afriend out.

Personally I don't see Hawkeye fitting ANY of those reasons.

If they were going to pull the whole "Ronin/Echo" thing, then I would like it to be the the new White Tiger/FBI agent.


i can almost guarantee that it won't be a superheroine in a man-suit. it'll probably just be Iron Fist; repaying the favor he and Luke asked of him when he was defending the original White Tiger.

[NightMage]

Yeah, I agree with you there Miss Kitty. Cap knows what is at stake. He won't just let some wildcard on the resistance. Like you, he must trust the guy to back him up no matter what.

Let's extend this further: What if this DD is a mole that's working alongside the pro-reg crowd in a civilian identify then going back to Cap as DD for info re: the pro-reg heroes?

[Bobster777]

Let's extend this further: What if this DD is a mole that's working alongside the pro-reg crowd in a civilian identify then going back to Cap as DD for info re: the pro-reg heroes?
In that case, it could be Danny Rand. However, I doubt it since Cap knew nothing about Tony's, Reed's, and Hank's plan until the soldier blurted it out to him.

[StoneGold]

Let's extend this further: What if this DD is a mole that's working alongside the pro-reg crowd in a civilian identify then going back to Cap as DD for info re: the pro-reg heroes?
That would assume that this was a Civil War storyline, instead of a DareDevil storyline that happens to be spilling into Civil War. This is Brubaker's baby, not Millar's.

[Haunt]

That would assume that this was a Civil War storyline, instead of a DareDevil storyline that happens to be spilling into Civil War. This is Brubaker's baby, not Millar's.


someone spoiled it on the Bendis boards if you're interested.

[StoneGold]

someone spoiled it on the Bendis boards if you're interested.
Yeah, assuming it's not a false spoiler. Marvel's done those before.

Course, they've also done the whoops, accidental reveals before as well.

[Haunt]

Yeah, assuming it's not a false spoiler. Marvel's done those before.

Course, they've also done the whoops, accidental reveals before as well.


well, supposedly it was promo art that showed the character identified as ________.

[StoneGold]

well, supposedly it was promo art that showed the character identified as ________.
And I remember promo art that showed Jean Grey as the revived character from Astonishing X-Men.

I think they did it one other time with Captain America, although it was more blatant because they were using old artwork. But I can't really remember exactly what the circumstance was.

[Bobster777]

That would assume that this was a Civil War storyline, instead of a DareDevil storyline that happens to be spilling into Civil War. This is Brubaker's baby, not Millar's.
Yeah, good point. At the end of the day, I don't think it will affect Civil War too much whoever it is under the mask unless it is Nick Fury (which is a very big long shot).

[civilwarrocks]

It was revealed in the Director's Cut. If you look at the script in the back, the pages at Baxter where DD talks, in the black bar blocking it. You have to decipher it, but if you do you can tell it says...
Iron Fist

[Mjolnir]

wow, i wonder why him?

[Typo Lad]

It makes sense. He has connections to Matt via Luke and was aware of his idnetity. He is a Martial Artist on par with Matt, if not of greater skill. He is just as agile. What he lacks in hypersenses he makes up for hin peak-human senses honed through training. His motives will, I'm sure, be revealed in the story, but I suspect they are part of a plan to "clear" Matt.

[Nick Kal]

It's actually Clint Barton, or Hawkeye.

[MasterSplinter]

Marvel has published at least 5 variants of the hidden name. So far people have had Nick Fury, Iron Fist, Shang Chi, Hawkeye and Ben Reilly.

[Bobster777]

It's actually Clint Barton, or Hawkeye.
Ha ha, I had a gut feeling it was him. Ay, well, I can't wait to see how they explain that one.

[LabRat]

Marvel has published at least 5 variants of the hidden name. So far people have had Nick Fury, Iron Fist, Shang Chi, Hawkeye and Ben Reilly.

Really?

Boy, I hope people can produce screenshots so we could see for ourselves, I've already seen one of the names on the list...

[StoneGold]

Marvel has published at least 5 variants of the hidden name. So far people have had Nick Fury, Iron Fist, Shang Chi, Hawkeye and Ben Reilly.
Seriously? Oh, that's f'n genius!!! Right up there with the fake Astonishing page with Jean Grey. Stir the pot!!!

[StoneGold]

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8559/spoilers3mq.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4580/cwdc2zo.jpg

Shang Chi and Ben Reilly.

So yes, this is Marvel deliberately messing with us. Seriously though, that is awesome!

[LabRat]

Thanks for the captures, Stonegold... Saw it at the Marvel Universe threads after I posted here...

[alschroeder]

Okay, dumb guess time:

Bear in mind I am NOT currently reading Daredevil. I'm aware that Matt Murdock is in prison and someone else is acting as Daredevil, confusing everyone since Matt was outed.

My main impression was in CIVIL WAR #1, where Fakedevil was standing to one side...

Playing with a coin....

Saying,"No, this has building up a long time, Nighthawk. Stamford's just the straw that broke the camel's back. This is the end of the way we do business. You can smell it in the air."

Smiling. It wasn't a sad smile, or a determined smile. It was a combination they're-finally-getting-theirs and it's-the-end-of-the-world-but-I-thrive-in-chaos smile. That isn't Iron Fist. Not even remotely would Danny Rand feel that way. Hawkeye? Maybe, that's closer--- but Hawkeye at his best could never pull off Daredevil level feats of acrobatics.

No, I was reminded of someone else, who often plays with a coin---who once said to Electra, "But me, babe? I'm magic." Who would LOVE to assume DD's identity for a while, and then later run it through the mud---who alone of his enemies could actually pull off a reasonable imitation of DD, both in agility and casually handling casual objects as weaponry.

Bullseye.

I think we're being set up. That this is a Thunderbolts-level feat of fooling the world, and maybe even the other heroes. That the person behind that mask is Bullseye, taking advantage of Matt being behind bars to assume his other identity---trying currently to establish he's the "real" DD so when Matt emerges, he'll be able to kill Matt and then make Daredevil into a villain...dragging down BOTH identities.

Like I said, I don't read DD currently. So----simple question. Has the Fakedevil fought Bullseye? And is there anything Fakedevil has done that precludes him from being Bullseye.

But that's who the guy in the Daredevil suit remined me of, in CIVIL WAR #1. Bullseye.

As for why Cap is trusting him---I'm not sure he is. He's USING him, but Cap has often used his enemies strategically. The same way Stark, Pym, and Richards are trying to use Zemo and the Thunderbolts.

Anyway, that's my guess, coming in as a relative outsider. Now tell me why I'm wrong.---Al

[Typo Lad]

Bloody hell, that's not a bad theory.

[MasterSplinter]

Except Bullseye's currently incarcerated with DD.

[Typo Lad]

Oh well. There goes that.

Still, not a bad story idea.

[StoneGold]

Except Bullseye is currently in prison with Matt at the same time the other guy in red is doing his stuff. So no, it ain't him. This might work if the fake DareDevil was a Civil War story, but you really need to read DareDevil as well because you'd see how quickly that theory gets poked full of holes.


That, and you should read DD anyways. Brubaker rocks!

[alschroeder]

Okay, then, just wanted to make sure. I appreciate the imput of the Daredevil-followers out there. And even though Bullseye could hire someone to appear in his costume and make a costumed appearance, a non-costumed appearance---in prison, yet!-- is harder to fake....

Unless he hired the Chameleon---

Nyaaah. Trying too hard.

Thanks for setting me straight!---Al

[phantom1592]

And Bullseyes done that before.

There was a story where Matt lost his memory and became a blind boxer. Bullseye dressed as Daredevil and started doing good deeds. Then ever so slowly started getting more violent and killing people, tainting DDs image.


So yes it is very much in character for Bullsey to do that. But he's in Jail right now.

[alschroeder]

And Bullseyes done that before.

There was a story where Matt lost his memory and became a blind boxer. Bullseye dressed as Daredevil and started doing good deeds. Then ever so slowly started getting more violent and killing people, tainting DDs image.


So yes it is very much in character for Bullsey to do that. But he's in Jail right now.

Ah, I remember picking up one of those issues but never saw the end, and never realized that it was Bullseye who was the false DD (although thinking back over it, it fits) or realized they used that motif before. That's a DOUBLE strike against it....I don't think Brubaker would return to something used before.

I guess I'll have to pick up DAREDEVIL now, so I can make more educated guesses....---Al

[StoneGold]

Ah, I remember picking up one of those issues but never saw the end, and never realized that it was Bullseye who was the false DD (although thinking back over it, it fits) or realized they used that motif before. That's a DOUBLE strike against it....I don't think Brubaker would return to something used before.

I guess I'll have to pick up DAREDEVIL now, so I can make more educated guesses....---Al
Just for the record, it also doesn't fit the clue that the character playing DD hasn't been seen since late last year. Bullseye just had his own mini where he was playing tag with the Punisher. Now granted, it's all dependent on Brubaker's knowledge of where the character has or hasn't been, but it does seem unlikely.

[Bobster777]

On the Bulleye thing, there's also the issue of Cap. I don't think Cap would let DD on the anti side if it were Bulleye. Again, this is assuming that Cap knows who the fake DD is.

[Haunt]

ok, so before they actually reveal it, does anyone want to make their definitive pick (no changing your mind at the last second)? i'm going with the fake Daredevil being Paladdin.

[StoneGold]

ok, so before they actually reveal it, does anyone want to make their definitive pick (no changing your mind at the last second)? i'm going with the fake Daredevil being Paladdin.
I've been going with Pal for a while, and I'm sticking with him. He fits the couple of clues we have, he has the motivation for it, and there is the greatest potential for conflict and drama with him.

[Bobster777]

My definitive pick is Hawkeye. I just think this would be the more interesting story to tell.

[Haunt]

My definitive pick is Hawkeye. I just think this would be the more interesting story to tell.


probably but i just have to ask myself, "why would they use Paladdin to take Daredevil down?" why not any old S.W.A.T team sniper? it's not like Paladdin's even known for being a crackshot. he's just a decent mercenary.

[Subotai]

If it was Bullseye, he probably couldn't have resisted flicking that coin through someone's eyeball.

The one thing about the line was the 'doing business' part - reminded me of Heroes for Hire. But I don't think he was speaking literally, although I like the idea of it being Danny.

[Mjolnir]

It'd be cool if at the end of the recent Daredevil arc, the final page reveals that all this prison stuff is set BEFORE Civil War happened, and that there's only the ONE DD all this time.

If not, then it's Johnny Storm, sneaking out at nights from his 'coma'.
BAM!
Or Foggy. Foggy!

[Bobster777]

It'd be cool if at the end of the recent Daredevil arc, the final page reveals that all this prison stuff is set BEFORE Civil War happened, and that there's only the ONE DD all this time.

If not, then it's Johnny Storm, sneaking out at nights from his 'coma'.
BAM!
Or Foggy. Foggy!
Ha ha, dang, that would be a great twist. But I still would rather see it be Hawkeye. There is a great story to tell if it is him doning the costume.

[lament]

Well, if DD is really Clint, I think that yes, Cap knows it's him. He's known the man for years, so Cap would recognize his voice and mannerisms. If it's not Clint, then he may or may not know. I don't think Cap would ask DD to unmask himself. He's worked with a myriad of other superheroes over the years without knowing who they are beneath the mask.

[Xanrn]

Since Punisher is having his own Civil War Arc and he is currently in the same prison as Matt in DD.

I would say its pretty obivious the current DD arc is pre-CW.

DD will be in C&D 30 the first issue of that Civil War arc, with Deadpool versus the Sightless Scarlet Sentry, thats coming out this week

[phantom1592]

In the current DD issue, Matt and Frank are both making a break out attempt. Therefore Frank will be out before his CW tiein takes place. The writers have made the comment that they know matt is in prison and that the the CW DD is not Matt.

I still say Cap wouldnt let a fake DD into his camp, when he knows he isn't the real one without knowing he's on his side.

"Who are you supposed to be?"

"I'm Daredevil"

"Yeah.... I don't think so"

[BobbyRobby]

At the end of 'Accused' in Frontline #3, is that Murdock in prison with Speedball?

[phantom1592]

No. Murdock is in Rykers. He is not bald.

What is up with that anyway?!? Every prisoner is shaved and beaten or something??


Too bad he is in jail though, Shulkie is trying for Plea bargains, Matt would get the whole case thrown out, or beat them in court.

[Bobster777]

In the current DD issue, Matt and Frank are both making a break out attempt. Therefore Frank will be out before his CW tiein takes place. The writers have made the comment that they know matt is in prison and that the the CW DD is not Matt.

I still say Cap wouldnt let a fake DD into his camp, when he knows he isn't the real one without knowing he's on his side.

"Who are you supposed to be?"

"I'm Daredevil"

"Yeah.... I don't think so"
Yeah, that is so true. There is just no way that Cap doesn't know who it is. Thus, it has to be someone he really trusts.

[Iron Syndicate]

and that there's only the ONE DD all this time.

That can't happen as in DD we're shown that there are 2 DDs (hehe), and Matt can't be in jail AND out of it at the same time...